38:45 You forgot the best part, where the Music Gallery, iirc, doesn't even include every song in the game. It's an INCOMPLETE music gallery. I've never seen a soundtest in a videogame that doesn't include all the sounds.
WHY??!!! Why the hell would you make a music gallery and not include every song in the game?!! Mario and Luigi Paper Jam had a music gallery that included every song AND let you pick whatever song you wanted, and that game is considered the worst of Mario and Luigi quintology. I mean, I enjoyed it, but still, this only supports my views on Mario and Luigi being the superior Mario RPG series.
@@BlusterTheBenevolent Or if the sound test needed to be gradually filled up over the course of the game, there could be an achievement for actually battling. Even if it doesn't make sense, it's better than what we got
God, I remember getting to the ending of this game, where Peach asks Mario to make a wish with the Royal stickers. I remember thinking to myself "Don't bring Kersti back!... They're going to bring Kersti back... Dammit."
Olivia is a fun, friendly and tragic companion, and she sacrifices herself and gets fondly remembered in the finale. Kersti only exists to bitch and moan at you for the entire game and "sacrifices" herself only to return 2 minutes later.
Chariii: If I already know that it’s bad, it can’t be as bad to where I hate it Paper Mario Sticker Star: You have spent hours of your life, but you didn’t find the Luigi’s so you got to back! Chariii: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
As a Paper Mario fan, I watched a let’s play of this game: At first I thought “wow! I regret not playing this” but by the end thought “wow! I’m glad I didn’t play this”
No, giving Kersti an Irish accent give the ENTIRE GAME more character, because good fucking luck finding a trace of personality that isn't devoted to half-assed paper puns that sound like 4Kids wrote them.
@@SkadiSJ I like Sticker Star. Just not that much. I much rather play other games that are better than this AKA the good games, like Super Mario 3D Land, Animal Crossing New Leaf, or maybe DS games.
40:23 I’ve never genuinely laughed at Charriii5’s angry sins before since I could tell that they were exaggerated, but the way he was speaking in this sin had me laughing for a solid minute or two because of how GENUINE and PAIN-FILLED he sounded lmao
@WL-bs4nc Skipping battles isn't fun, wasting stickers isn't fun, the bosses aren't fun, the levels (except for maybe one) are not fun, and the story is paper tossed in the bin.
@@MisterBrick42 I don't care, man. The whole "character sacrifice" shit has been done too many times, Super Paper Mario did it perfectly, and Color Splash did it genuinely okay, Sticker Star's was just a joke, but this is the FIFTH TIME THIS HAPPENS, I thought [SPOILERS]'s death was enough, even though it didn't make any sense, TOK literally killed off every single original character in the game, why!? Why not give us new good fucking characters and let it be at that? Jesus fucking Christ. I love TOK, but parts of it I really hate, it really could have been better but it's a step in the right direction I guess.
@@DeltaBlazin I mean beggars can't be choosers. I'd rather have a decent game than one that I play for at least 20 minutes before realising that I'm not missing much when I sold this game. also, I agree, Tanabe why must you keep doing this to us? Olivia is at least someone likeable unlike Huey and Kresti (hey, don't look at me funny cause I didn't say her name properly, it's not like there's someone out there who actually likes Kersti- oh goddamnit) and you expect me to actually believe that you gave the rust bucket and the hair ripping crown a second life, but when it comes to someone who's actually not trash for once you just kill her off?! Also I know the other (redacted) that you are talking about. And in his defense, it kind of makes sense. See, he's a factory made (redacted) and unlike Bobbery and Bombette, those types of (redacted) die when they explode. Not as nonsensical as you may think.
I remember when i was like a kid and got the game for Christmas. I always remembered how I got stuck on the Pokey Boss until I finally used the bat. I don’t know why but I enjoyed seeing Mario die due to poison in battle. I had a hard time finding a reason to play after the poison jungle
@@smugsuperoof4314 Yeaaah as a kid I was even less motivated to 100% complete games or get through hard parts, idk why Nintendo thought anyone would've liked that system.
gameplay issues compilation. 4:19 general re-accruing themes. 10:05 overworld attacks. 11:24 save mechanic. 12:30 the paperization ability. 16:20 roulette spin. 17:22 things for boss fights. 18:02 scavenger hunting. 21:55 it makes no sense. 23:23 inconsistency. 24:35 no logical direction. 25:37 gooper blooper. 28:50 even more inconsistency. 30:27 stupid defense. 35:08 kamek fight. 36:26 sticker museum. 40:24 zero out of five luigi.
wow, this was worse than i thought. i read about how frustrating that Kamek fight was, and how terrible the Bower fight was... but the absurd complexity of acquiring those "things" makes it MUCH worse.
For those of you like me who comes back to this for Charii's (VERY justifiably) angry rants about design choices, here's some handy timestamps for them 4:25 - 9:56 12:30 - 13:17 16:16 - 20:30 21:07 - 22:40 25:37 - 29:30 32:50 - 33:38 36:26 - 39:00 (edit: HOW did i miss this, this dude sounds like he's about to cry and I *cannot* blame him) 39:10 - 39:30
26:04 you can beat Gooper Blooper without the sponge. You just need to finish him in one turn. Use a Pow Block, the stereo and perfectly time the infinijump and you win in one turn without the sponge. But Kersti will tell you you used a lot of stickers
Pal, with no offense to you, my mans just suffered through the ENTIRETY of Paper Mario Sticker Star. I don’t think he wants to hear a strategy for beating one of the WORST bosses in Mario history.
I think what I love the most about this video is that even though he tends to over-exaggerate these videos when pointing out dumb stuff, you can feel his genuine rage this time. You can feel the amount of hatred he has for this game for most of the sins that are completely unrelated to the story. And goddammit it’s relatable.
Masae: How would you rate your creation? Emile: ...Paper Mario Sticker Star... Masae: That's really unfortunate... Emile: They are a disappointment. Masae: Oh my God!
19:44 Actually you can find out the size of the "thing" stickers before you sling it based on the color around the thing's name. The game never tells you that's what the color means, but it doesn't take long to notice that the "things" in the same color always become stickers of the same size.
if the game was not going to tell you, it should've made it more obvious than a damn COLORED TRANSPARENT OUTLINE. Like make it a different size or something, use an info blurb to convey size, make them relative to real life so you can estimate instead of complete guessing. Or I don't know MAKE THEM THE SAME SIZE.
This whole video cringed me so hard that I started to believe that anyone who couldnt figure out most of the obvious things should get their iq checked
@@batty_tsukimiya bruh you realize this is Chariii’s first time playing this game right? It might be obvious to you what the colors mean because you’ve played the game before, but said game never actually properly explains what the colors mean to a first time player. If a player has trouble figuring out a game’s system and the game is not explaining them properly or at all, that’s not the player’s fault. That’s the game’s fault for not properly conveying it’s systems and how they work to the player. Sure the systems make sense, but it’s the fact they’re never explained is the problem here.
@@jakfrost574 seems like a common problem with the game is "how was i supposed to know that?". you are given patterns without being told those patterns have significance, you have to use the paperization mechanic with no hints of what to actually use and are punished for making the wrong guess, and you are never told what the boss is weak to until you are actually fighting said boss (with a consumable you may or may not have). in book of mario (a google translated version of paper mario), one of the lines was "if you take the wrong path, find out earlier", the context being how to get through eternal hell (forever forest). sticker star seems to be what happens when you take that mindset and apply it to the whole game
@@drmedicechsrick8702 I didn't even know about the goat. I just used a Vacuum sticker cause I thought it was required after backtracking from the level back to Decalburg and eventually returning to the level.
The man went off. The game was asking for it tho. 9 minutes in, and the he tore this game apparent. I thought by the 9 minute mark he gave the game 100 sins already from all of the flaws he pointed out. Edit: 12:30 oh boy
It is actually possible to beat the Gooper Blooper without the things. When he is just about to spit poison at you, there's a chance that when you use the POW block, it can crumple him, making him lose 1 turn! Then use it periodically before each phase! Besides that, his attacks are fairly basic, and you can wail at him with your most powerful smaller stickers, a hopsliper is most advised because you can deal 10 damage on him without using up much space, but you can experiment... maybe. The poison shroom isn't that bad because it pierces through the Gooper Blooper's defense and deals an extra 8 hp or so each turn for a few turns without having to use an extra hopslipper. Also, if you do happened to get poisoned, there's a big 1-up sticker hidden in 2-1 which cures Mario of all status effects, including the extreme poison he spits at you! If you wanna beat it the fake gamer way, you can just use some infinjump stickers, which can be made manually in 1-1 through constant paperization of the linejump sticker.
Honestly, relying on RNG pow block crumpling, having stocked enough of them to reliably use them continuously throughout the fight, finding a secret hidden item *several* levels back and bringing it forward for this, on top of making an item specifically for this fight is still a stupid amount of preparation and requires knowing all of this prior to engagement, so I think Charriii's point is still valid, though it is unsound by your counterexample. Most players would not go to such lengths without intentionally taking that on as a challenge, and at that point you're doing more prep work than just *getting the Thing the devs want you to use, which imo defeats the point.*
Actually, there's a method to beat him on the first turn (and it's by far the easiest one to do out of the four bosses that you can 1-turn) Step 1: Get a bingo. Anything that isn't the poison shroom will work. Step 2: Use the boombox to raise your attack. Step 3: POW block him to make him crinkled (the first POW block is guaranteed to crinkle him) Step 4: Spam A with the Water Gun Step 5: Victory
@@Wings_Of_Nightfall I am sure your meathod works, along with several others, but I wanted to demonstrate that you can beat the Gooper Blooper WITHOUT using any of the things... and infijumps.
@@Aki_Tsune_ Yeah... it is pretty dumb, but I just wanted to say that it IS possible to beat him the unintended method. Also, the unique way these bosses work and all of the different sticker types make this game strangely replayable. Like, there are so many different strategies you can use here once you know how they work and there's all sorts of hidden mechanics in this game that can totally break the game, such as the aforementioned infinjump in 1-1! Color Splash and Origami Kings mechanics have been simplified to heck, making them way less interesting to talk about. Don't get me wrong, the battle system here isn't good, but there's lots of room for experimentation still.
Both did, and even given how ProtonJon enjoyed it it was still worse than he remembered. Sticker Star is a game you play once, enjoy World 4, and then trash or resell at a super-high price to make acquiring the game worth it.
@@GamerPuff I mean make him enjoy the Whole experience. Battle, things, and even minor stickers. Literally anything about the game. Because if he does it on his channel, 30 minutes of hate every day will decline popularity.
I played this game when I was like, 11-12. I got all the way to the final boss, but I never beat it. This game made me so mad, that when I died, I took out the cartridge, spat all over it, and broke it. That was back in like, 2015. I had totally forgot why I hated this game, until I heard the sins. I spent HOURS trying to figure out the stickers, and what to do. I’m glad to hear such genuine rage, cause it perfectly shows why I hate this game.
Personally I just didn't care and he's right: I did half of the game with a guide because the puzzle didn't make sense to me I don't consider myself dumb and even though I'm sometimes oblivious I knew that this game isn't good when I force myself to finish it and doesn't have good clues in game to understand the puzzles while I was happy to play EVERY SINGLE OTHER GAME I have
@@vectory674 Man this game isn't intuitive or explains something, if this game explained or actually gave you actual hints of what to do it would be fine
30:59 I don't know if somebody else has said this, but "Thing" stickers do more damage/gives you a better effect if you mash the "A" button. I don't think that either Sticker Star or Color Splash tell you this, but this does work in both games.
@@andrewollmann304 I honestly don't know. I think I kinda knew because I would press A during parts of the Thing stickers' animations, and then I read a comment on a video somewhere that you can just mash A on most of them to get an Excellent. I think the comment was on Mankalor's perfect bonus video? There really should have been an NPC or a sign somewhere that tells you that you can perform action commands with Thing stickers, because some people would have thought that it was just a cutscene that they couldn't interact with. Edit: In retrospect, I probably should have posted my earlier comment when Chariii first released this video (I saw it when he first published it) so that he would have know for Color Splash. Chariii if you're reading this, sorry for not telling you when it actually could have helped you.
@@andrewollmann304 Did you also know you can press A at the right time while using a Mushroom and it heals you more? No? Well you're a damn fool, you should have known even though the game literally never tells you it! God, this fucking game.
@Nimtendo There is something in the game that tells you. It's a sign in the first level, which says, "With every attack, timing is really crucial. Press that A button." It doesn't tell you about mashing or about the Cake, but it's more than nothing.
@@kurtmatteson4914 Honestly, I had no idea that the cake had a unique action command until Chuggaaconroy published his first "Paper Mario Sticker Star sucks" video. I think I learnt that Thing Stickers had action commands when I played the game for the first time when I was 12, and it may have been because of that one sign (I honestly can't remember, that was over 7 years ago for me at this point). I'm not sure how anyone figured out that the action command for the cake is blowing into the mic.
Literally everyone hated the stickers for that reason. You’re not supposed to use expendable attacks for literally the most basic of basic attacks. That’s a crime against humanity.
Nailed it on the fucking head with that description of the sticker system, I physically cannot understand why anyone thought it was a good idea, removing the RPG elements in a turn based combat system removes literally any point in doing regular battles, and the limited sticker storage for attacks makes bosses a game of trial and error, one where you never know what you're going to need until you get your shit kicked in, it isn't fun in any measure
Extremely late, but I feel like the stickers could’ve had at least two things. 1) If you run out of stickers, there should _always_ be a jump action and hammer action. Maybe weaker since you ran out of stickers but something to make you want to keep battling, despite the lack of a leveling system. 2) Make the stickers have out of battle uses, like the jump stickers allowing you to jump higher, with maybe a risk of loosing the sticker or not. Or maybe a stronger hammer to destroy a boulder, and that hammer might break. I know bullshit on more bullshit but these are ideas. Just something that I figure that *_should’ve_* been added into the game. I’m not a game dev so I have no clue on balancing or anything.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Chariii? He deadass powered through this whole game, and that is a feat, a mental one atleast, hope you feel better after your vacation :) keep up the great work man
Y'know, you could probably have just made a video with the title "Everything Wrong With Paper Mario: Sticker Star", put up a link to a 100% playthrough, and called it a day, but I'm so glad you didn't. It was truly therapeutic to hear someone else roast this game. Thank you.
@@pvoes1 I loved this game on my first playthrough. It was halfway through my second playthrough that I realized I wasn't having fun and started to hate the game.
Know what, I'm glad I watched this. It just gave added reasons and confirmation that me giving up on the game early on was justified. I got fed up and hated both the battle mechanics and the overall sticker usage before even world 1's boss. I finally gave up on the game when I reached world 2 where I reached a puzzle using stickers to unlock a door or floor (I don't remember at this point) where I could not for the life of me figure out what it wanted from me and I realized that you can easily waste stickers on wrong attempts. That factored in with the growing disdain of the limited sticker space both because of the things and battle stickers using same inventory INSTEAD of separating them like ANY other reasonable RPG which made battles so tedious they were not worth it just was the breaking point for me. I have no idea how the hell they managed to make a game so user hostile, so unfun and so boring that it would not only cause a significant amount of people to hate it but actively stop playing or destroy it.
She's worse than Starlow. I can't believe I wrote this sentence At least Starlow is annoying because she's forced to do tutorials and being dumb for the sake of the plot. Kertsi is just annoying during the WHOLE GAME. She doesn't even want me to find her at least cool in some moments. She is the character I dislike the most in EVERY SINGLE GAME I have ever played in my short time in Earth. And you have to try hard to make me dislike someone in real life or inside a fictional world. She's worse than Fay my God !
@@vectory674 in color splash huey was mostly meh in origami king Olivia was a bit like navi so she ruins some points in the game instead of us trying to figure it out ourselves
What REALLY chafes me about all the shenanigans in this game is that it KNOWS it's frustrating, by way of all the times they say "Wow, that wasn't very fun, was it?" as if that absolves it of putting you through that frustration in the first place. Also, wow, 24:54 reminded me of how just much I wanted to BURN DOWN THAT ENTIRE FOREST after dealing with the Wiggler Segments. Also, also, this game gets Zero out of Five Luigis. That seems pretty appropriate.
Didn't he say a few months back that he was gonna tone down on that hate? Or at least not be as vocal about it because it kinda ran its course as a joke?
He did, but somehow its downfall and its lack of quality everywhere is so salient for him that he still uses it as a benchmark for shitty-quality things.
@@ejthenobody Well, one of the few times he's ever gotten hate by a lot of people is from his complaining about modern Paper Mario games, so he's probably only toning it down so he doesn't get more hate.
I know this is old but, I keep watching it cause someone genuinely understands how much I HATE this game and everything in it. You capture this so well and I keep coming back to get a good laugh in
This video was 4 things 1) Hope you had the __________ or else you cant proceed 2) F*CK THIS FIGHT! 3) HOW THE F*CK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT WAS THERE?!? 4) Pain
Looking back at this. There is practically no possible way for someone to know Flutter was a thing when this game came out. The only games where Flutter actually shows up is in the Yoshi's Island games and the Mario Party games Mario Party 5 to Island Tour at that point, with the exception of some other spinoffs. Flutter didn't show up in ANY other games for the duration of 2012. I actually went through the effort to check the release dates of every single game Flutter appeared in that was on the 3DS or WII, there was an entire year gap between Flutter's appearance in this game and Flutter's appearance in any other spinoff at that time.
It’s funny because I never even completed this game and I was like: yeah….. this was going to be a bad time Edit: how did the comment get to 205 likes wow
Me before watching this video: Oh man, that one game that was the reason I wanted a 3DS back in the day and I liked it a lot! The game that made me wanna play RPGs. Oh, yeah, and that game that apparently people hate with the fire of a thousand suns, I guess that's worth noting. Me after watching this video: ... yeah that sounds about right.
@@solarflare9078 Nah. Everyone's got their own opinions. And when I use "schizophrenic", I don't mean to actually say that the person making the rant is medically schizophrenic. I just think of it as a sarcastic remark in how their reasoning for something being bad feels justified in a way, because we all know how awful Paper Mario: Sticker Star is.
Extra Sin, the game never tells you that Thing Stickers have action commands too and you only would find out if you just happened to press A at the set times , so they can do MORE damage or have better effects BUT they don't tell you this at all.
Nintendo: See Wiggle is like a Caterpillar so it makes sense he evolves into Flutter! I genuinely didn't want to return to Wiggler after dealing with his piece of shit segments.
@@JugularJohn Wrong. Flutters did exist in another Mario game, where they were called 'Flying Wigglers.' That game was Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. You know, the Mario game with about *150* unique enemy types? Yeah, Flying Wigglers were a thing in that game. In ONE level. In ONE spot in that one level. And they didn't even stand out in that level because that was also the first level to have Goombas in it. So if you remember anything about that level (which I only do because I played that game dozens of times), it's probably not going to be that there's a swarm of angry butterflies right before the goal ring. But yeah, shame on you for not knowing that this character wasn't foreshadowed in a 20 year-old game that had dozens of other more iconic and memorable enemy types in it.
@@DaRkLoRdZoRc oh shit yeah you’re right. And also about the fact that literally no one would know that since they never used flutter before and flutter wasn’t as popular or memorable in a game with 150 enemies enough to be represented in a 2012 game
@@christiansantiago5330 06 was an unfinished and rushed game with bugs and glitches, but it had so much potential of being a good game (the project 06 fangame explains the hidden potential very well because it fixed almost all the flaws the original had). The story was dark but well written (expect for the Sonic and Elise romance). The soundtrack was one of the best in the entire series. The gameplay was in adventure style which could have been great if, once again, the game wasn't rushed. The graphics were ok. That's all for Sonic 06. Sticker Star however, ohhhhhh BOY!!! Sticker Star has bare bones plot, the combat and sticker system were absolutely TERRIBLE, the creative ideas of this game were very poorly excuted (explained in the video. God bless you Charriii). On the other hand, the music was fantastic and the graphics were good. Here's the catch: Sticker Star is a fully finished game (with a few but minor bugs) while 06 isn't.
@@SafAnimate well A. I meant he has not been this mad since 06 B. Although sticker star had bad gameplay, at least that game was not rushed as you said it was not rushed, if sticker ticks him off what do you think 06 did to him?
@@SafAnimate ok good point but if I had to choose between a glitchy mess and a confusing battle system, what do you think I would choose? Edit:it's ironic that it's Mario vs sonic 😂😂😂
i just remembered something i saw in a different video: when Kirsti is turning into a sticker and saying goodbye, she also says something like "don't you DARE try to sell me at a store!" BUT, how much does the shopkeeper offer if you DO try to sell her? *FIFTEEN* coins!
The worst part about World 2-4 is that Kersti only tells you to go to Surfshine Harbor if, and *only* if, you had gotten the vacuum cleaner at least once before that point.
@@Toadallythebest The worst part is? There are worse Paper Mario games, GAMES, plural. Super Paper Mario has a much better story, but Sticker Star outshines it in gameplay.
I actually _did_ beat Gooper Blooper without the Sponge thing. Didn't have leaf stickers either. I ran out of stickers completely and had to survive off of scraps.
You could also just use a Pow Block then the Boom box thing and then the Squirt gun thing on the first turn and after using the Pow block if you just spam the A button you just win very easily.
@@mackenziewoloschuk7375 Yeah even if I use 3 stickers and win becuase of Water Gun and BoomBox being OP together instead of taking a bunch of turns fighting the Gooper Blooper using well over 50 stickers but becuase I used the Sponge to block ONE ATTACK I didn't use too many stickers.
Same here, but I honestly can’t remember how I did it. I remember I was pretty young when I first played the game and I remember finding the sponge after the fight. I also remember losing that fight, a lot…
coming back to this video 2 years later, after seeing Chuggaconroy's more recent sticker star vids, I now know it is possible to kill gooper blooper by just spamming things. Color splash really upped the anti by making the bosses unkillable until you use the specific thing required to win the fight. people have hacked that game to try to win without the required cards and the boss just doesn't die, they just continue using the killer move.
You know, I've heard about the magic system in FF8 and how garbage it is. And yet the sticker mechanic manages to be even _worse_ because in FF8 you can draw magic mid-combat. It's really amazing just how garbage the sticker mechanic actually is.
The real problem with FF8's magic system isn't the fact that magic is a consumable, it's the fact that you are encouraged to never to use it because the magic is much more effective as fodder to junction to your stats, and if you use the magic that is junction to any of your stats, your stats immediately go down during the battle.
Sticker Star's combat system reminds me of an old GBA game called Riviera: The Promised Land. just like Sticker Star, Riviera's a turn based JRPG with a combat system based around consumable items. thing is Riviera actually manages to make it not suck.
I love that game, I've finished it more times than I can count. The fact you could use different items with different characters to produce different effects was pretty brilliant. It feels like you are, you know actually using your brain to create your strategy instead of randomly guessing which one specific action the game expects you to use with no hints or prompting.
When I was younger I had the choice of Sticker star or Dream team and I was gonna pick Sticker star because I really wanted to play a paper Mario game, but in the end, I went with Dream team. I AM SO GLAD I CHOSE RIGHT.
17:14 she says that literally no matter what i used like one or two stickers when fighting that boss and she still said it and i was just sitting there like 🧍boi
This is, to this day, the best video you have ever made. I come back like, every month to watch it again because it's so well done, and it makes a good 40 minutes just fly by.
26:45 as much as it does improve over Sticker Star, Color Splash does the same shit, except no, its still possible in sticker star to beat every boss with or without their "Weakness", but in Color splash, If you dont have the ONE Thing card going into the fight, You. Will. Not. Win. you are just not allowed to win.
@Marshall Minter I don't think I've heard Charriii get this mad EVER and don't remember him getting this mad in Everything Wrong With Sonic '06 either.. I think. It's kinda terrifying, I'm concerned about him now.. and I haven't even finished the video yet (I only saw 10 minutes of this video, 10 MINUTES, for crying out loud). Edit: Yeah, the Sticker Museum rewards are kinda useless (the Enemy Gallery and Sound Test room), no wonder why he felt "defeated rage" afterwards (I might be wrong).
30:46 I’m not sure but, I think there’s ONE SPECIFIC FIRE related ‘thing’ sticker that works well against this boss like how they are against other bosses. Any other ‘thing’ stickers, even heat related ones aren’t good because they’re not the specific sticker. I might even be wrong yet it may as well be given the game’s track record.
(39:52) Additionally Kersti is FUDGING STICKER! Couldn't she have, oh I don't know.... STUCK HERSELF TO MARIO INSTEAD OF SACRIFICING HERSELF? Clearly that WOULD have worked because that's what happened when the Royal Stickers stuck to their respective bosses, so what was the point of Kersti being stuck up in the first place other than for artificial remorse that wears off 6 minutes later?! *Ding*
Really the only things I knew about this game going into this video were 1) The game sucks 2) The final battle theme created one of the largest arguments on UA-cam.
Honestly the only good things about this game is the soundtrack and the visuals (one of 3DS games I highly recommended playing in 3D.) Other than that, this game is garbage lol
@@beekbeek8535 Someone said, “I don’t care what anyone says. This is one of the best Paper Mario tracks!” And then, someone else said, “Probably because you’re 9 years old, and have never touched an actually good Paper Mario game.” Now, I paraphrased, but, the point is, those two comments started an enormous arguments.
36:19 comedy really makes you think about things, because now I just realized Mario/we should be able to think outside the box while working with the sticker limitation(s) , and be able to toss or hit with certain weapons, but I guess the game's dead, so what's the point in trying to repair this "game"
I remember when this game was advertised and I've wanted to check it out. I wasn't a hardcore Paper Mario player, or fan even, but I thought the game looked interesting and I wanted to play it one day. I thought the sticker mechanic was...somewhat interesting even if it pretty much defies all laws of RPG combat and was somewhat in need of work. I knew people didn't like the game because of how different it was to the previous titles, but I genuinely didn't think it would nearly cause Charriii to go insane because of how tedious the game is. The fact that you can use and therefore lose Key Item Thing stickers needed for game progression is actually a scummy move, some Things being super hard to get, and some Things being unknown whether or not you can use them in battle without screwing up your only way of progressing the game shows that this game arguably had potential for what it is rather than what it isn't. If I ever decided to make an RPG with mechanics similar to this game, I would at least try to make the game more fun than it may seem.
This game actually had a very interesting beta where the game was going to be an actual Paper Mario game, a true TTYD2 if you will, but they decided this was better... I could only imagine what could have been if that did happen, the story, the partners, the world, all of it could've been truly spectacular. EDIT: Here's a fun fact for y'all! In 5-1 you'll encounter a trash pit, and inside that trash pit are references to older Paper Mario characters including Goombella and Parakarry! It's kina ironic considering the direction the franchise took after this game... By the way, this was the last game in the Paper Mario series to reference Parakarry... What a sad way to go...basically death in a trash pit. Way to put salt in the wound, Intelligent Systems...
Miyamoto should’ve been scolded for suggesting making such a disgraceful game, but they went along with it because Japanese tradition, I guess. He gets away with it because he made Mario.
In addition to that Cheep Cheep boss, I hope you somehow managed to know exactly which level you needed to put the Secret Doors in, which you may not even know about because it’s at 1 shop in the game.
The things this game does to someone, Emile's (Sir Chugga A Conroy) vitriol thowards this game feels more justified because of how it feels like the Mario version of Megaman X6, heck dare I say it makes X6 look like a masterpiece.
@LetsPlayWoomy8835 to be fair, more than half of those sins were just the loading screens in '06. An hour and a half of dead air would drive anyone insane.
30:15 There... is a way to cheese this boss. I've done it myself. The only issue is you need a boat load of coins, and its kinda complicated. *inhale* You need to buy the radiator thing, Oven Thing, and Hair Dryer thing. After that use ANY coins you have left to buy any fire related stickers like the Burn Hammer and Fire Flowers. Make sure you get a perfect spin on the roulette wheel to use 3 stickers at once. When using the thing stickers, mash A as hard as you can, because mashing does more damage when using those three things. After you have used the things, try the roulette wheel again to use more stickers in one turn, and keep using your fire related stickers, and make sure to do it perfectly. And after you have done all that, Just use whatever stickers you like, exept for ice related stickers because this boss is made of ice. If you get all the layers to break, and leave Mizzer Blizzard out in the open, you have won. *Large Gasp*
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"Everything wrong with Paper Mario Sticker Star in 39 Minutes"
Chuggaaconroy: You gotta bump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers.
He's confirmed He's made a paper about this game.
@@seid3366 i actually did as well (though it was a very unimportant one)
Tbh, I think he could've spent his lifetime trashing this shit game
So... Are we going to casually ignore Pticker
Wait a sec... Rookie numbe- GRAYSTILLPLAYS!!!!
38:45 You forgot the best part, where the Music Gallery, iirc, doesn't even include every song in the game. It's an INCOMPLETE music gallery. I've never seen a soundtest in a videogame that doesn't include all the sounds.
WHY??!!! Why the hell would you make a music gallery and not include every song in the game?!! Mario and Luigi Paper Jam had a music gallery that included every song AND let you pick whatever song you wanted, and that game is considered the worst of Mario and Luigi quintology. I mean, I enjoyed it, but still, this only supports my views on Mario and Luigi being the superior Mario RPG series.
This actually isn’t that uncommon, but a sound test that you actually have to work for should definitely be absolutely complete.
@@BlusterTheBenevolent Or if the sound test needed to be gradually filled up over the course of the game, there could be an achievement for actually battling. Even if it doesn't make sense, it's better than what we got
yeah, the one that you can access in snowden forest in undertale, jeez if anything that ones worse, it only has 4 songs
@@Avriel_Mimiga Wait, Undertale has a sound test? How do I unlock it?
Have mercy on your soul
Its funny you thought this game had mercy as a option to begin with
Hey Nathaniel me and my friend are big fans.
I had to look up UA-cam tutorials in 5 OUT OF THE SIX WORLDS
This game isn’t mercy
@Filippo Contigiani PEACE was never an option (doom music kicks in as Mario aggressively hammers a Toad continuously)
God, I remember getting to the ending of this game, where Peach asks Mario to make a wish with the Royal stickers. I remember thinking to myself "Don't bring Kersti back!... They're going to bring Kersti back... Dammit."
You Know A game is Bad when you're dreading the revivable of the supposed friend.
Olivia is a fun, friendly and tragic companion, and she sacrifices herself and gets fondly remembered in the finale.
Kersti only exists to bitch and moan at you for the entire game and "sacrifices" herself only to return 2 minutes later.
@ZorotheGallade what about huey
@@prosylan6368he doesnt die,he returns to the Port Prisma color fountain
@@ZorotheGallade hell, bobby, the bob omb whos "unique design" was just that he didnt have a fuse, had a bigger impact in his sacrifice
Kristi: "It was fun"
Me: Damn thats sad
Charii: No it wasn't
Instantly laughs while breaking the tension at the same time
What were you expecting
This man almost had a stroke even in the beggining lol
Chariii: If I already know that it’s bad, it can’t be as bad to where I hate it
Paper Mario Sticker Star: You have spent hours of your life, but you didn’t find the Luigi’s so you got to back!
Chariii: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
His day wasn't ruined when he started the game?
If I were Mario, I would rip Kersti into pieces
@@mysticalkeyblade759 Tbh, same
Chariii5: *plays this game*
Chuggaconroy: Why would you put yourself through this?
I "put myself" for about 300+ times
As a Paper Mario fan, I watched a let’s play of this game:
At first I thought “wow! I regret not playing this” but by the end thought “wow! I’m glad I didn’t play this”
You giving Kersti an Irish accent gives her an OUNCE more of character than the game itself gives her.
I honestly just expected his amy voice lmao
Charii's Irish Crown accent: 'DING' 1 win
That;s very true
No, giving Kersti an Irish accent give the ENTIRE GAME more character, because good fucking luck finding a trace of personality that isn't devoted to half-assed paper puns that sound like 4Kids wrote them.
@@uberlord983 I guess you're not wrong
Any time I make a mistake in life, I remind myself;
"At least I didn't make Paper Mario: Sticker Star."
If i was you, i would say Mario's time Machine.(like, SS isn't the worst thing in the world.)
I do this, but it switches between Fallout 76, Cyberpunk 2077, Morrowind, and Fallout 3.
@@TsukimuraMidoriI mean at least those games tried
At least I didn't play it
Everytime i'm depressed, I remind myself:
"At least I don't have Twitter."
Video begins:
Charriii: "this game sucks"
Me: well that didn't took long
Sounds like the Angry Video Game Nerd.
No one does, and if someone does, god blessed that poor fool
@MidbusStudios ha! I feel ya I also only played super paper mario and got hated for not playing ttyd
@@SkadiSJ I like Sticker Star. Just not that much. I much rather play other games that are better than this AKA the good games, like Super Mario 3D Land, Animal Crossing New Leaf, or maybe DS games.
@@acesamm Mario 3D Land was a great game and you can’t convince me otherwise
40:23 I’ve never genuinely laughed at Charriii5’s angry sins before since I could tell that they were exaggerated, but the way he was speaking in this sin had me laughing for a solid minute or two because of how GENUINE and PAIN-FILLED he sounded lmao
Does anyone actually like this game for real, probably not anybody who likes RPG’s, it may be called action adventure, but it acts like a bad rpg
Dude said he had no script for this whole thing, none of this was exaggerated. He was Chuggaconroy levels of seriously despising this game. XD
@gavinbunting7354 I actually think the game is fun when not playing it casually, and when you actually know what you should do
@@WL-bs4nc but I heard the game usually doesn’t tell you
@WL-bs4nc Skipping battles isn't fun, wasting stickers isn't fun, the bosses aren't fun, the levels (except for maybe one) are not fun, and the story is paper tossed in the bin.
You can hear the pain in his voice. The museum is that terrible.
It could always be worse *RBS Temple 6-8 intensifies*
RBS?
What’s RBS?
And it’s also not even all the music in the game, either. Most if not all of the battle themes are excluded.
@@hypernate1playsandletsplay224 Roshambo (basically Rock-Paper-Scissors but With a Different name)
I Think He Almost Started Tearing Up.Just Listen To His Voice
"Why didn't the scissors kill him?"
*(turns into an old man and clutches heart while Origami King flashback plays out)*
I love the game, but hate the ending, there was no point to [SPOILERS] and [SPOILERS] dying.
@@DeltaBlazin [SPOILERS] probably [MAYBE ALSO SPOILERS] for the same reason kertsi [SPOILERS] in this game
@@MisterBrick42 I don't care, man. The whole "character sacrifice" shit has been done too many times, Super Paper Mario did it perfectly, and Color Splash did it genuinely okay, Sticker Star's was just a joke, but this is the FIFTH TIME THIS HAPPENS, I thought [SPOILERS]'s death was enough, even though it didn't make any sense, TOK literally killed off every single original character in the game, why!? Why not give us new good fucking characters and let it be at that? Jesus fucking Christ.
I love TOK, but parts of it I really hate, it really could have been better but it's a step in the right direction I guess.
@Edward Sturgeon Green streamer chapter, you have to go to every spa to bring him back.
@@DeltaBlazin I mean beggars can't be choosers. I'd rather have a decent game than one that I play for at least 20 minutes before realising that I'm not missing much when I sold this game.
also, I agree, Tanabe why must you keep doing this to us? Olivia is at least someone likeable unlike Huey and Kresti (hey, don't look at me funny cause I didn't say her name properly, it's not like there's someone out there who actually likes Kersti- oh goddamnit) and you expect me to actually believe that you gave the rust bucket and the hair ripping crown a second life, but when it comes to someone who's actually not trash for once you just kill her off?!
Also I know the other (redacted) that you are talking about. And in his defense, it kind of makes sense. See, he's a factory made (redacted) and unlike Bobbery and Bombette, those types of (redacted) die when they explode. Not as nonsensical as you may think.
Somebody send this to Chuggaaconroy. I bet he would love to have more references for his thesis on why this game is bad
Hopefully he sees it
@@crichie21 I don't think he saw it or maybe he did I don't know
@@coolguy1343 Last we heard in the Sticker Star stream, he hasnt yet but he has HEARD of it.
@@showme2theexit ok good to know I didn't watch the stream
@@showme2theexit what part did he say that in the live stream
I always wondered why people hated this game, the sticker system didn't seem that bad.
It is that bad. I have learned this very well.
Never played it
@@crichie21 plz don't the game is awful
I remember when i was like a kid and got the game for Christmas. I always remembered how I got stuck on the Pokey Boss until I finally used the bat. I don’t know why but I enjoyed seeing Mario die due to poison in battle. I had a hard time finding a reason to play after the poison jungle
@@smugsuperoof4314 Yeaaah as a kid I was even less motivated to 100% complete games or get through hard parts, idk why Nintendo thought anyone would've liked that system.
I was like 7 when this game came out but I do remember it was one of the most frustrating games I played lol
*39 minutes*
Chuggaaconroy: "I could do this for days."
hello fellow man of culture
I would throw money if I had any for Charriii5 to remake this and have Chugga help him cover what he didn't.
Man, he got pissed off even faster than with the Sonic '06 video
I knew he’d be mentioned here
You could say that about LITERALLY ANY UA-camr who has completed 100% of this game.
Person A: "I want to make a video of everything wrong with Sticker Star"
Person B: "How long will the video be?"
Person A: "How long is Sticker Star?"
Person B: "Do you even have the courage to find out?"
@@Jakewebmaster8 Person A: no, I will just ask Charriii to play it.
Chuggaconroy: I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY
Long enough that I want to take some pills to make the pain go away
I feel like this a reference to the "How old are you?" scene from The Fairly OddParents
“You got the hammer!”
Charri: *About to turn this place into the grand canyon*
And what does that mean
@@UrLoPi02 Making a whole entire gaping hole
gameplay issues compilation.
4:19 general re-accruing themes.
10:05 overworld attacks.
11:24 save mechanic.
12:30 the paperization ability.
16:20 roulette spin.
17:22 things for boss fights.
18:02 scavenger hunting.
21:55 it makes no sense.
23:23 inconsistency.
24:35 no logical direction.
25:37 gooper blooper.
28:50 even more inconsistency.
30:27 stupid defense.
35:08 kamek fight.
36:26 sticker museum.
40:24 zero out of five luigi.
The fact you can make an entire list of gameplay issues is actually scary
You forgot:
40:12 bowser not saying anything.
*28:32 even more inconsistency
wow, this was worse than i thought.
i read about how frustrating that Kamek fight was, and how terrible the Bower fight was...
but the absurd complexity of acquiring those "things" makes it MUCH worse.
29:33 29:40 39:01
For those of you like me who comes back to this for Charii's (VERY justifiably) angry rants about design choices, here's some handy timestamps for them
4:25 - 9:56
12:30 - 13:17
16:16 - 20:30
21:07 - 22:40
25:37 - 29:30
32:50 - 33:38
36:26 - 39:00 (edit: HOW did i miss this, this dude sounds like he's about to cry and I *cannot* blame him)
39:10 - 39:30
I don’t know if you meant to put the 32 minute timestamp twice, but it’s there twice.
Cool he fixed it
Lets not forget 10:07
@@K-R-H he already fixed that.
@@AdonAdaniel ok?
You know a game is going to be fun to rip apart when Charriii himself outright tells you Sticker Star is so bad that no script is needed.
Also cries in Chuggaaconroy
@@RogueGamerM Chuggaaconroy at gunpoint: “Paper Mario sticker star…(inhales)…is a decent enough game…🥲”
@@DangerOctoYT i don't think being at gunpoint would make chugga say such heresy
@@USELESSDCK He had to for a Colosseum version of Thrown Controllers (say positive enough things about Sticker Star for a full minute)
@@RogueGamerM My god, Emile just dies a little on the inside, everytime he mentions Sticker Star
26:04 you can beat Gooper Blooper without the sponge. You just need to finish him in one turn. Use a Pow Block, the stereo and perfectly time the infinijump and you win in one turn without the sponge. But Kersti will tell you you used a lot of stickers
When you didn’t
Oh wow.
ISN'T THIS GAME
F U N, isn't that a great thing, the game complaining about crap you didn't do?
The e s s e n c e of enjoyment
the fact you have to go to those lengths to not have to suffer through a boss is ridiculous.
Pal, with no offense to you, my mans just suffered through the ENTIRETY of Paper Mario Sticker Star. I don’t think he wants to hear a strategy for beating one of the WORST bosses in Mario history.
I think what I love the most about this video is that even though he tends to over-exaggerate these videos when pointing out dumb stuff, you can feel his genuine rage this time.
You can feel the amount of hatred he has for this game for most of the sins that are completely unrelated to the story. And goddammit it’s relatable.
Your first mistake is assuming there’s a story here
@@Mamaluigi13 Shit you're right
Chuggaaconroy: "You had me at everything!"
Chuggaaconroy at gunpoint: “Paper Mario sticker star…(inhales)…is a decent enough game…🥲”
This entire reply section paired with the comment is flawless rn
Masae: How would you rate your creation?
Emile: ...Paper Mario Sticker Star...
Masae: That's really unfortunate...
Emile: They are a disappointment.
Masae: Oh my God!
More like “You had me at e”
Chugga blessed this video
19:44 Actually you can find out the size of the "thing" stickers before you sling it based on the color around the thing's name. The game never tells you that's what the color means, but it doesn't take long to notice that the "things" in the same color always become stickers of the same size.
if the game was not going to tell you, it should've made it more obvious than a damn COLORED TRANSPARENT OUTLINE. Like make it a different size or something, use an info blurb to convey size, make them relative to real life so you can estimate instead of complete guessing. Or I don't know MAKE THEM THE SAME SIZE.
This whole video cringed me so hard that I started to believe that anyone who couldnt figure out most of the obvious things should get their iq checked
@@batty_tsukimiya bruh you realize this is Chariii’s first time playing this game right? It might be obvious to you what the colors mean because you’ve played the game before, but said game never actually properly explains what the colors mean to a first time player. If a player has trouble figuring out a game’s system and the game is not explaining them properly or at all, that’s not the player’s fault. That’s the game’s fault for not properly conveying it’s systems and how they work to the player. Sure the systems make sense, but it’s the fact they’re never explained is the problem here.
What?! I never figured that out as kid!
@@jakfrost574 seems like a common problem with the game is "how was i supposed to know that?". you are given patterns without being told those patterns have significance, you have to use the paperization mechanic with no hints of what to actually use and are punished for making the wrong guess, and you are never told what the boss is weak to until you are actually fighting said boss (with a consumable you may or may not have). in book of mario (a google translated version of paper mario), one of the lines was "if you take the wrong path, find out earlier", the context being how to get through eternal hell (forever forest). sticker star seems to be what happens when you take that mindset and apply it to the whole game
"*Sigh* I got the f**king goat"
I don't know why that made me laugh but it did XD
I think that was my favourite line in the video.
28:29
XD
@@Ramsey276one Thank you. I didn't want to edit my comment so you saved me the trouble
fun fact you dont actualy need the goat you can just randomly find the bridge pice in the paper trash place and by that maybe even find eastereggs too
@@drmedicechsrick8702 I didn't even know about the goat. I just used a Vacuum sticker cause I thought it was required after backtracking from the level back to Decalburg and eventually returning to the level.
35:07 "F*ck this fight, f*ck this fight, F*CK THIS FIGHT!"
39:26 that laugh and that “WOO” is the sound of a defeated man. XD
Charriii: “OHH BOY you want me to get right to it huh?”
Me: uh oh.
Same reaction
Shat
Oh boy
4:14
Me: OH...
The man went off. The game was asking for it tho. 9 minutes in, and the he tore this game apparent. I thought by the 9 minute mark he gave the game 100 sins already from all of the flaws he pointed out.
Edit: 12:30 oh boy
It is actually possible to beat the Gooper Blooper without the things. When he is just about to spit poison at you, there's a chance that when you use the POW block, it can crumple him, making him lose 1 turn! Then use it periodically before each phase! Besides that, his attacks are fairly basic, and you can wail at him with your most powerful smaller stickers, a hopsliper is most advised because you can deal 10 damage on him without using up much space, but you can experiment... maybe. The poison shroom isn't that bad because it pierces through the Gooper Blooper's defense and deals an extra 8 hp or so each turn for a few turns without having to use an extra hopslipper. Also, if you do happened to get poisoned, there's a big 1-up sticker hidden in 2-1 which cures Mario of all status effects, including the extreme poison he spits at you!
If you wanna beat it the fake gamer way, you can just use some infinjump stickers, which can be made manually in 1-1 through constant paperization of the linejump sticker.
Honestly, relying on RNG pow block crumpling, having stocked enough of them to reliably use them continuously throughout the fight, finding a secret hidden item *several* levels back and bringing it forward for this, on top of making an item specifically for this fight is still a stupid amount of preparation and requires knowing all of this prior to engagement, so I think Charriii's point is still valid, though it is unsound by your counterexample. Most players would not go to such lengths without intentionally taking that on as a challenge, and at that point you're doing more prep work than just *getting the Thing the devs want you to use, which imo defeats the point.*
Why... Why would you waste a part of your life talking about this game about a strategy.
Actually, there's a method to beat him on the first turn (and it's by far the easiest one to do out of the four bosses that you can 1-turn)
Step 1: Get a bingo. Anything that isn't the poison shroom will work.
Step 2: Use the boombox to raise your attack.
Step 3: POW block him to make him crinkled (the first POW block is guaranteed to crinkle him)
Step 4: Spam A with the Water Gun
Step 5: Victory
@@Wings_Of_Nightfall I am sure your meathod works, along with several others, but I wanted to demonstrate that you can beat the Gooper Blooper WITHOUT using any of the things... and infijumps.
@@Aki_Tsune_ Yeah... it is pretty dumb, but I just wanted to say that it IS possible to beat him the unintended method. Also, the unique way these bosses work and all of the different sticker types make this game strangely replayable. Like, there are so many different strategies you can use here once you know how they work and there's all sorts of hidden mechanics in this game that can totally break the game, such as the aforementioned infinjump in 1-1! Color Splash and Origami Kings mechanics have been simplified to heck, making them way less interesting to talk about. Don't get me wrong, the battle system here isn't good, but there's lots of room for experimentation still.
23:34
*Inhales*
IF WE NEED AN ACTUAL HAMMER TO USE HAMMER STICKERS WHY DON'T WE JUST USE THE GODDAMNED HAMMER AND FORGET THE STICKERS!?!?!
"Never a case of people refusing who I am."
Bestovius: "You must be the great Mario!
...IMPERSONATOR!"
hero*, not Mario
@@thundergreen1133 you would know wouldn't you
I should encourage Cloud to play this game. It will hurt him more than I ever can.
(Holds up a copy of Sticker Star) "Shall I give you despair?"
@@thespectaculargamernerd8114 I would say I have a wonderful gift for him, but this game is too far from wonderful for that.
Oh, I bet that would be sweet revenge on your part, Sephiroth.
OMG OTS THE REAL SEPHIROTH!!!!!!
OMG YOUR MY FAVOURITE EMINEEEE
Charriii5: *starts ripping on Paper Mario: Sticker Star*
Chuggaconroy: my satisfaction is immeasurable, and my day is made!
Well, my day is made but I WILL GET CHUGGAACONROY TO PLAY IT AND HE WILL ENJOY IT!!!
@@yokai59loi36 well, he co-commed a stream of it with Jon as a Colosseum Bonus Incentive last year.
@@yokai59loi36 idk if this is a joke I don't get but he beat the sticker star 100%
Both did, and even given how ProtonJon enjoyed it it was still worse than he remembered. Sticker Star is a game you play once, enjoy World 4, and then trash or resell at a super-high price to make acquiring the game worth it.
@@GamerPuff I mean make him enjoy the Whole experience. Battle, things, and even minor stickers. Literally anything about the game. Because if he does it on his channel, 30 minutes of hate every day will decline popularity.
I played this game when I was like, 11-12. I got all the way to the final boss, but I never beat it. This game made me so mad, that when I died, I took out the cartridge, spat all over it, and broke it.
That was back in like, 2015. I had totally forgot why I hated this game, until I heard the sins. I spent HOURS trying to figure out the stickers, and what to do. I’m glad to hear such genuine rage, cause it perfectly shows why I hate this game.
Yeah alot of people hate this shitty game
Personally I just didn't care and he's right: I did half of the game with a guide because the puzzle didn't make sense to me
I don't consider myself dumb and even though I'm sometimes oblivious I knew that this game isn't good when I force myself to finish it and doesn't have good clues in game to understand the puzzles while I was happy to play EVERY SINGLE OTHER GAME I have
@@vectory674 Man this game isn't intuitive or explains something, if this game explained or actually gave you actual hints of what to do it would be fine
Just like me in skyward sword hd
thanks for letting me know to not get this game. I will just listen to its soundtrack
30:59 I don't know if somebody else has said this, but "Thing" stickers do more damage/gives you a better effect if you mash the "A" button. I don't think that either Sticker Star or Color Splash tell you this, but this does work in both games.
How would they expect people to figure that out?
@@andrewollmann304 I honestly don't know. I think I kinda knew because I would press A during parts of the Thing stickers' animations, and then I read a comment on a video somewhere that you can just mash A on most of them to get an Excellent. I think the comment was on Mankalor's perfect bonus video?
There really should have been an NPC or a sign somewhere that tells you that you can perform action commands with Thing stickers, because some people would have thought that it was just a cutscene that they couldn't interact with.
Edit: In retrospect, I probably should have posted my earlier comment when Chariii first released this video (I saw it when he first published it) so that he would have know for Color Splash. Chariii if you're reading this, sorry for not telling you when it actually could have helped you.
@@andrewollmann304
Did you also know you can press A at the right time while using a Mushroom and it heals you more?
No? Well you're a damn fool, you should have known even though the game literally never tells you it!
God, this fucking game.
@Nimtendo There is something in the game that tells you. It's a sign in the first level, which says, "With every attack, timing is really crucial. Press that A button." It doesn't tell you about mashing or about the Cake, but it's more than nothing.
@@kurtmatteson4914 Honestly, I had no idea that the cake had a unique action command until Chuggaaconroy published his first "Paper Mario Sticker Star sucks" video. I think I learnt that Thing Stickers had action commands when I played the game for the first time when I was 12, and it may have been because of that one sign (I honestly can't remember, that was over 7 years ago for me at this point). I'm not sure how anyone figured out that the action command for the cake is blowing into the mic.
6:19 finally someone is noticing the jump stickers existence. Good job Charrii5
Literally everyone hated the stickers for that reason. You’re not supposed to use expendable attacks for literally the most basic of basic attacks. That’s a crime against humanity.
A fellow Luma, I see.
@@Lumakid100 I love Lumas
@@Lumakid100 I am not a luma (I’m a cat) . My profile picture is a picture of my pet luma. But that’s ok.
@@JugularJohn I have a pet luma
Nailed it on the fucking head with that description of the sticker system, I physically cannot understand why anyone thought it was a good idea, removing the RPG elements in a turn based combat system removes literally any point in doing regular battles, and the limited sticker storage for attacks makes bosses a game of trial and error, one where you never know what you're going to need until you get your shit kicked in, it isn't fun in any measure
Even Paper Mario in the thumbnail looking at a sticker is like: What is this?
No, he just has that, "My life has no meaning" look as he stares at that sticker with empty voids for eyes.
Pain
Extremely late, but I feel like the stickers could’ve had at least two things.
1) If you run out of stickers, there should _always_ be a jump action and hammer action. Maybe weaker since you ran out of stickers but something to make you want to keep battling, despite the lack of a leveling system.
2) Make the stickers have out of battle uses, like the jump stickers allowing you to jump higher, with maybe a risk of loosing the sticker or not. Or maybe a stronger hammer to destroy a boulder, and that hammer might break. I know bullshit on more bullshit but these are ideas. Just something that I figure that *_should’ve_* been added into the game. I’m not a game dev so I have no clue on balancing or anything.
Let’s all band together and send this to chuggaconroy to make his day.
Agreed
Agreed
Let’s do it
Agreed
No because I like this game and you can't change that. If you try to even change my opinion then go and sleep in garbage
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Chariii? He deadass powered through this whole game, and that is a feat, a mental one atleast, hope you feel better after your vacation :) keep up the great work man
Yeah
Y'know, you could probably have just made a video with the title "Everything Wrong With Paper Mario: Sticker Star", put up a link to a 100% playthrough, and called it a day, but I'm so glad you didn't. It was truly therapeutic to hear someone else roast this game. Thank you.
This game is capable of breaking your sanity.
That laugh at 39:26 gets me.
Charriii: This game sucks so much that it doesn't deserve the privilege of me writing a script.
Everyone: Understandable, have a nice day.
That was my first paper mario game, which somehow shaped it into my favorite
@@pvoes1 ew
@@pvoes1 same feeling here
@@pvoes1 I loved this game on my first playthrough. It was halfway through my second playthrough that I realized I wasn't having fun and started to hate the game.
@@pvoes1 because you're like 9. Haven't even played the other games I guarantee you.
“Everything wrong with paper mario sticker star”
Me: the whole game *rolls credits*
Exactly
No, every puzzle in the game, and maybe some other stuff, and that’s it.
@@mimikyutubesaltaccount4875 The game itself is broken
I think this game could be a lot better if they told you what you need to do, how to do and fix the combat
@@Eric-py8yy but I like it sometimes
ah yes his famous line
"What are the RULES goddamnit?!"
Know what, I'm glad I watched this. It just gave added reasons and confirmation that me giving up on the game early on was justified. I got fed up and hated both the battle mechanics and the overall sticker usage before even world 1's boss. I finally gave up on the game when I reached world 2 where I reached a puzzle using stickers to unlock a door or floor (I don't remember at this point) where I could not for the life of me figure out what it wanted from me and I realized that you can easily waste stickers on wrong attempts. That factored in with the growing disdain of the limited sticker space both because of the things and battle stickers using same inventory INSTEAD of separating them like ANY other reasonable RPG which made battles so tedious they were not worth it just was the breaking point for me.
I have no idea how the hell they managed to make a game so user hostile, so unfun and so boring that it would not only cause a significant amount of people to hate it but actively stop playing or destroy it.
I’m so glad Kertsi gets a pissy Irish accent, it fits so well lmao
Edit: Yeah I spelled her name wrong but I genuinely don’t care
She doesn't even deserve to be acknowledged let alone have her name spelled correctly.
Honestly, using the edit to say how little you care instead of fixing the typo is powerful, and I respect it.
She's worse than Starlow. I can't believe I wrote this sentence
At least Starlow is annoying because she's forced to do tutorials and being dumb for the sake of the plot.
Kertsi is just annoying during the WHOLE GAME. She doesn't even want me to find her at least cool in some moments. She is the character I dislike the most in EVERY SINGLE GAME I have ever played in my short time in Earth. And you have to try hard to make me dislike someone in real life or inside a fictional world. She's worse than Fay my God !
@@vectory674 in color splash huey was mostly meh in origami king Olivia was a bit like navi so she ruins some points in the game instead of us trying to figure it out ourselves
@@crichie21 I feel like Olivia is better than most of the others, because she actually has a likable personality
Dear God, I never have heard you being this pissed off at a game...this is the first time and I am SCARED.
...you good, dude? Do you need a vacation?!
Funny thing is, he is on vacation (according to the beginning of this video)
@@hypernate1playsandletsplay224 he needed a vacation so much he preemptively took a vacation
just like the Sunshine post card says: Have a relaxing vacation
I swear he was going to cry at some point
I think he probably hates sonic 06 even more
The woo near the end made me about lose it the pure unadulterated frustration was absolutely palpable. Well done.
So much frustration that sanity has left the fucking country lmao
Giving Kertsi an Irish accent actually made her significantly more tolerable
What REALLY chafes me about all the shenanigans in this game is that it KNOWS it's frustrating, by way of all the times they say "Wow, that wasn't very fun, was it?" as if that absolves it of putting you through that frustration in the first place.
Also, wow, 24:54 reminded me of how just much I wanted to BURN DOWN THAT ENTIRE FOREST after dealing with the Wiggler Segments.
Also, also, this game gets Zero out of Five Luigis. That seems pretty appropriate.
Would have been perfect if you had Chuggaaconroy as a guest star. He's the ultimate Sticker Star hater, after all.
Didn't he say a few months back that he was gonna tone down on that hate? Or at least not be as vocal about it because it kinda ran its course as a joke?
He did, but somehow its downfall and its lack of quality everywhere is so salient for him that he still uses it as a benchmark for shitty-quality things.
100% orange juice police story flashbacks
Oh, that would have been AWESOME.
@@ejthenobody Well, one of the few times he's ever gotten hate by a lot of people is from his complaining about modern Paper Mario games, so he's probably only toning it down so he doesn't get more hate.
I know this is old but, I keep watching it cause someone genuinely understands how much I HATE this game and everything in it. You capture this so well and I keep coming back to get a good laugh in
This video was 4 things
1) Hope you had the __________ or else you cant proceed
2) F*CK THIS FIGHT!
3) HOW THE F*CK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT WAS THERE?!?
4) Pain
34:20 That should be obvious. He's the only real character in the game, after all.
I only knew about Wiggler because of Flutter being in Mario spinoff titles and just used common sense from there.
What about Mr Blizzard
@@skibot9974 Oh yeah, but he died, so it couldn't be him.
Looking back at this. There is practically no possible way for someone to know Flutter was a thing when this game came out. The only games where Flutter actually shows up is in the Yoshi's Island games and the Mario Party games Mario Party 5 to Island Tour at that point, with the exception of some other spinoffs. Flutter didn't show up in ANY other games for the duration of 2012. I actually went through the effort to check the release dates of every single game Flutter appeared in that was on the 3DS or WII, there was an entire year gap between Flutter's appearance in this game and Flutter's appearance in any other spinoff at that time.
@@ozura239 So basically, we were screwed for this section no matter what.
It’s funny because I never even completed this game and I was like: yeah….. this was going to be a bad time
Edit: how did the comment get to 205 likes wow
Sans
Are you talking full completion, or just beating it?
@@SuperStamps Hi Super Stamps. Love your videos man.
@@DTgamer_Shiver-is-best-waifu thanks
@@SuperStamps 😁👍
38:00 Sad that Charriii5 did all of this for nothing, TWICE.
Good job, Nintendo.
Me before watching this video: Oh man, that one game that was the reason I wanted a 3DS back in the day and I liked it a lot! The game that made me wanna play RPGs. Oh, yeah, and that game that apparently people hate with the fire of a thousand suns, I guess that's worth noting.
Me after watching this video: ... yeah that sounds about right.
Chuggaconroy would’ve been an amazing guest in this video
Too bad he's now making his own separate schizophrenic rant videos about how awful this game can be...
@@Loner098 As if that's a bad thing?
@@solarflare9078 Nah. Everyone's got their own opinions. And when I use "schizophrenic", I don't mean to actually say that the person making the rant is medically schizophrenic. I just think of it as a sarcastic remark in how their reasoning for something being bad feels justified in a way, because we all know how awful Paper Mario: Sticker Star is.
@@Loner098 Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining
Oh gee this aged badly
It's funny how one of the most wanted aspects people wished for with this game was to hear big daddy Bowser talking.
But..doesn't he speak when you beat the game? I swear when I beat the game Bowser spoke in the ending..not a whole lot of dialogue..but something..
Charri and Chugga need to get together to rant about this game
Extra Sin, the game never tells you that Thing Stickers have action commands too and you only would find out if you just happened to press A at the set times , so they can do MORE damage or have better effects BUT they don't tell you this at all.
Nintendo: See Wiggle is like a Caterpillar so it makes sense he evolves into Flutter!
I genuinely didn't want to return to Wiggler after dealing with his piece of shit segments.
After Rustle Burrow, I hated Wiggler with a passion. They devalued all but 6 stickers from shiny and flashy to regular and worn out.
Not to mention flutter was NEVER a thing in the Mario games until sticker star
@@JugularJohn And with Flutter, you going to have a hard time since there is no hint that Wiggler grows into Flutter.
@@JugularJohn Wrong. Flutters did exist in another Mario game, where they were called 'Flying Wigglers.' That game was Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.
You know, the Mario game with about *150* unique enemy types? Yeah, Flying Wigglers were a thing in that game. In ONE level. In ONE spot in that one level. And they didn't even stand out in that level because that was also the first level to have Goombas in it. So if you remember anything about that level (which I only do because I played that game dozens of times), it's probably not going to be that there's a swarm of angry butterflies right before the goal ring.
But yeah, shame on you for not knowing that this character wasn't foreshadowed in a 20 year-old game that had dozens of other more iconic and memorable enemy types in it.
@@DaRkLoRdZoRc oh shit yeah you’re right. And also about the fact that literally no one would know that since they never used flutter before and flutter wasn’t as popular or memorable in a game with 150 enemies enough to be represented in a 2012 game
You have not experienced real anger until you've played Sticker Star. God bless you, Charriii.
What about sonic 06?
@@christiansantiago5330 06 was an unfinished and rushed game with bugs and glitches, but it had so much potential of being a good game (the project 06 fangame explains the hidden potential very well because it fixed almost all the flaws the original had).
The story was dark but well written (expect for the Sonic and Elise romance).
The soundtrack was one of the best in the entire series.
The gameplay was in adventure style which could have been great if, once again, the game wasn't rushed.
The graphics were ok.
That's all for Sonic 06. Sticker Star however, ohhhhhh BOY!!!
Sticker Star has bare bones plot, the combat and sticker system were absolutely TERRIBLE, the creative ideas of this game were very poorly excuted (explained in the video. God bless you Charriii). On the other hand, the music was fantastic and the graphics were good.
Here's the catch: Sticker Star is a fully finished game (with a few but minor bugs) while 06 isn't.
@@SafAnimate well A. I meant he has not been this mad since 06 B. Although sticker star had bad gameplay, at least that game was not rushed as you said it was not rushed, if sticker ticks him off what do you think 06 did to him?
@@christiansantiago5330 he was extremely frustrated because of the loading screens
@@SafAnimate ok good point but if I had to choose between a glitchy mess and a confusing battle system, what do you think I would choose? Edit:it's ironic that it's Mario vs sonic 😂😂😂
i just remembered something i saw in a different video:
when Kirsti is turning into a sticker and saying goodbye, she also says something like "don't you DARE try to sell me at a store!"
BUT, how much does the shopkeeper offer if you DO try to sell her?
*FIFTEEN* coins!
The worst part about World 2-4 is that Kersti only tells you to go to Surfshine Harbor if, and *only* if, you had gotten the vacuum cleaner at least once before that point.
The pain in his voice, I’m so sorry bro 38:37 😞
I played this when I was younger, and I’ve never heard people talk about this game, so this is gonna be fun
I guess u don’t watch Chuggaaconroy then?
@@Souvlaki96 nope, sorry
@@woah0-0 It’s ok
As a kid I watched a lot of no commentary playthroughs of this game, of course I took time to undestand why it's bad
@@Toadallythebest The worst part is?
There are worse Paper Mario games, GAMES, plural.
Super Paper Mario has a much better story, but Sticker Star outshines it in gameplay.
I actually _did_ beat Gooper Blooper without the Sponge thing. Didn't have leaf stickers either. I ran out of stickers completely and had to survive off of scraps.
Takes forever though
You could also just use a Pow Block then the Boom box thing and then the Squirt gun thing on the first turn and after using the Pow block if you just spam the A button you just win very easily.
@@syrusgrove8682 Kersti will still bitch about you using "a lot of stickers" though...
Literally pick your poison.
@@mackenziewoloschuk7375 Yeah even if I use 3 stickers and win becuase of Water Gun and BoomBox being OP together instead of taking a bunch of turns fighting the Gooper Blooper using well over 50 stickers but becuase I used the Sponge to block ONE ATTACK I didn't use too many stickers.
Same here, but I honestly can’t remember how I did it. I remember I was pretty young when I first played the game and I remember finding the sponge after the fight. I also remember losing that fight, a lot…
coming back to this video 2 years later, after seeing Chuggaconroy's more recent sticker star vids, I now know it is possible to kill gooper blooper by just spamming things. Color splash really upped the anti by making the bosses unkillable until you use the specific thing required to win the fight. people have hacked that game to try to win without the required cards and the boss just doesn't die, they just continue using the killer move.
You know, I've heard about the magic system in FF8 and how garbage it is. And yet the sticker mechanic manages to be even _worse_ because in FF8 you can draw magic mid-combat. It's really amazing just how garbage the sticker mechanic actually is.
The real problem with FF8's magic system isn't the fact that magic is a consumable, it's the fact that you are encouraged to never to use it because the magic is much more effective as fodder to junction to your stats, and if you use the magic that is junction to any of your stats, your stats immediately go down during the battle.
Sticker Star's combat system reminds me of an old GBA game called Riviera: The Promised Land.
just like Sticker Star, Riviera's a turn based JRPG with a combat system based around consumable items. thing is Riviera actually manages to make it not suck.
I love that game, I've finished it more times than I can count.
The fact you could use different items with different characters to produce different effects was pretty brilliant. It feels like you are, you know actually using your brain to create your strategy instead of randomly guessing which one specific action the game expects you to use with no hints or prompting.
Granted, being better than Sticker Star isn't a high standard
When I was younger I had the choice of Sticker star or Dream team and I was gonna pick Sticker star because I really wanted to play a paper Mario game, but in the end, I went with Dream team.
I AM SO GLAD I CHOSE RIGHT.
Charii5: MISSION FAILED! WE'LL GET'EM NEXT TIME!(Because the next episode is Dream Team)
I'm glad I was never interested in Sticker Star. I also had Dream Team.
I had both games and I played dream team way more because sticker star is actually terrible
I know what's going to happen when I say this but I just hate everybody's opinion on sticker star because I really loved that game.
@@hiwi481 I too played both games,and while I do think SS is ok,DT is awesome, my 2nd best Mario&Luigi game (1st is Obviously BIS)
11:08
Well, this was a mechanic in Paper Mario (N64). You could hammer the ground to reveal and flip over hidden floor panels
Chugga feels your pain, my dude
17:14 she says that literally no matter what
i used like one or two stickers when fighting that boss and she still said it
and i was just sitting there like 🧍boi
Kersti is the freaking worst
I have this sudden urge to hug this guy and say "it's all right it's over the bad game can't hurt you anymore."
This is, to this day, the best video you have ever made. I come back like, every month to watch it again because it's so well done, and it makes a good 40 minutes just fly by.
26:45
as much as it does improve over Sticker Star, Color Splash does the same shit, except no, its still possible in sticker star to beat every boss with or without their "Weakness", but in Color splash, If you dont have the ONE Thing card going into the fight, You. Will. Not. Win. you are just not allowed to win.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard Charii THIS mad since EWW Sonic 06.
But the anger is well deserved for this trash heap of a game.
@Marshall Minter
I don't think I've heard Charriii get this mad EVER and don't remember him getting this mad in Everything Wrong With Sonic '06 either.. I think.
It's kinda terrifying, I'm concerned about him now.. and I haven't even finished the video yet (I only saw 10 minutes of this video, 10 MINUTES, for crying out loud).
Edit: Yeah, the Sticker Museum rewards are kinda useless (the Enemy Gallery and Sound Test room), no wonder why he felt "defeated rage" afterwards (I might be wrong).
I disagree with him, but again, it’s not a review.
At least Sonic 06 was so bad it's good (in my opinion).
@@bulbasaur4369 the game at least said what you needed to do and how to do
At least Sonic '06 *HAD* potential. A lot of what's wrong with Sonic '06 *is* just how broken it is.
Sticker Star was doomed from the start.
10:06 When a game gives you both middle fingers
30:46 I’m not sure but, I think there’s ONE SPECIFIC FIRE related ‘thing’ sticker that works well against this boss like how they are against other bosses. Any other ‘thing’ stickers, even heat related ones aren’t good because they’re not the specific sticker. I might even be wrong yet it may as well be given the game’s track record.
(39:52)
Additionally Kersti is FUDGING STICKER! Couldn't she have, oh I don't know.... STUCK HERSELF TO MARIO INSTEAD OF SACRIFICING HERSELF? Clearly that WOULD have worked because that's what happened when the Royal Stickers stuck to their respective bosses, so what was the point of Kersti being stuck up in the first place other than for artificial remorse that wears off 6 minutes later?!
*Ding*
33:45 i’m surprised Charriii5 didn’t say: *THANK FUCKING GOD* given how much pain he went through. rip Charriii
Well he absolutely hates the final boss so...
Man that wiggler part killed me from how actually disgusted he was
@@ShadowtheUA-camr523 but still. Even I said that and I never played Sticker Star. I only know of the footage Charriii shows
@@BlxxdLxst17 yeah same
Really the only things I knew about this game going into this video were
1) The game sucks
2) The final battle theme created one of the largest arguments on UA-cam.
Honestly the only good things about this game is the soundtrack and the visuals (one of 3DS games I highly recommended playing in 3D.) Other than that, this game is garbage lol
You have me intrigued. What was the argument about and can I still observe it?
@@beekbeek8535
Unfortunately, the argument itself is gone.
But if you look up "The Angriest Comment Tread on UA-cam", you'll find a video about it.
Sounds like a plan, thank you~
@@beekbeek8535 Someone said, “I don’t care what anyone says. This is one of the best Paper Mario tracks!”
And then, someone else said, “Probably because you’re 9 years old, and have never touched an actually good Paper Mario game.”
Now, I paraphrased, but, the point is, those two comments started an enormous arguments.
36:19 comedy really makes you think about things, because now I just realized Mario/we should be able to think outside the box while working with the sticker limitation(s) , and be able to toss or hit with certain weapons, but I guess the game's dead, so what's the point in trying to repair this "game"
I like how kersti says the giant ice bowser is ridiculously tough yet a shiny fire flower does like 46 damage to it
I remember when this game was advertised and I've wanted to check it out. I wasn't a hardcore Paper Mario player, or fan even, but I thought the game looked interesting and I wanted to play it one day.
I thought the sticker mechanic was...somewhat interesting even if it pretty much defies all laws of RPG combat and was somewhat in need of work.
I knew people didn't like the game because of how different it was to the previous titles, but I genuinely didn't think it would nearly cause Charriii to go insane because of how tedious the game is.
The fact that you can use and therefore lose Key Item Thing stickers needed for game progression is actually a scummy move, some Things being super hard to get, and some Things being unknown whether or not you can use them in battle without screwing up your only way of progressing the game shows that this game arguably had potential for what it is rather than what it isn't.
If I ever decided to make an RPG with mechanics similar to this game, I would at least try to make the game more fun than it may seem.
This game actually had a very interesting beta where the game was going to be an actual Paper Mario game, a true TTYD2 if you will, but they decided this was better... I could only imagine what could have been if that did happen, the story, the partners, the world, all of it could've been truly spectacular.
EDIT: Here's a fun fact for y'all! In 5-1 you'll encounter a trash pit, and inside that trash pit are references to older Paper Mario characters including Goombella and Parakarry! It's kina ironic considering the direction the franchise took after this game... By the way, this was the last game in the Paper Mario series to reference Parakarry... What a sad way to go...basically death in a trash pit. Way to put salt in the wound, Intelligent Systems...
I still love those old screenshots
@@shtudent2783 Me too... poor Chompy the Chain Chop... he never had the opportunity to really exist...
And the same company made Advance Wars...
I Hope we someday get Like a Beta Build with the old stuff. I want to See what that Chain Chomp was used for outside of battle
Miyamoto should’ve been scolded for suggesting making such a disgraceful game, but they went along with it because Japanese tradition, I guess. He gets away with it because he made Mario.
In addition to that Cheep Cheep boss, I hope you somehow managed to know exactly which level you needed to put the Secret Doors in, which you may not even know about because it’s at 1 shop in the game.
I don't think you need the secret door aside from in 3-6
40:10 that’s more shocking than Peach being kidnapped AGAIN
The things this game does to someone, Emile's (Sir Chugga A Conroy) vitriol thowards this game feels more justified because of how it feels like the Mario version of Megaman X6, heck dare I say it makes X6 look like a masterpiece.
You know Nintendo done goofed if x6 and 06 gets more praise than this game. Nintendo is dead with paper Mario and tanabe needs to go
c richie21 Sticker star was a fun game and is very overrated. Sorry not sorry.
THE TRUTH
This mario rpg sin series has been amongst my favorite sin series you have done so far...can't wait for more ❤
I think Charri5 lost more of his sanity from this video then he did on his Sonic 06 video and thats saying something
Most likely
charri5 put 95 sins on this game.
he put somewhere close to 795 sins in his Sonic '06 video.
Sonic 06 has a good game underneath glitches, this one is just badly designed period
@LetsPlayWoomy8835 to be fair, more than half of those sins were just the loading screens in '06. An hour and a half of dead air would drive anyone insane.
28:29 I'm so sorry at laughing at this, but you sounded so defeated 🤣🤣🤣
charriii5s sudden screaming at 10:06 is so funny to me
30:15 There... is a way to cheese this boss. I've done it myself. The only issue is you need a boat load of coins, and its kinda complicated. *inhale* You need to buy the radiator thing, Oven Thing, and Hair Dryer thing. After that use ANY coins you have left to buy any fire related stickers like the Burn Hammer and Fire Flowers. Make sure you get a perfect spin on the roulette wheel to use 3 stickers at once. When using the thing stickers, mash A as hard as you can, because mashing does more damage when using those three things. After you have used the things, try the roulette wheel again to use more stickers in one turn, and keep using your fire related stickers, and make sure to do it perfectly. And after you have done all that, Just use whatever stickers you like, exept for ice related stickers because this boss is made of ice. If you get all the layers to break, and leave Mizzer Blizzard out in the open, you have won. *Large Gasp*
If you use the boombox to double your damage, you can beat him with a radiator, an oven, and a couple of fire flowers
It’s always amazing when Charriii plays a game he actually doesn’t like
I mean, he's done it with a lot of other awful games before.