Thanks man! nothing but good old Kodak Gold too. I'm starting to learn how much more the light, subject, and actual color palette of the "set" is, than the film stock or camera whenever I get shots back like that. Everyone dreams of Kodachrome and such, but there's a lot to be said for the scene you're actually shooting, and even how it's exposed and processed :-)
Came here for the opinion on a camera, stayed for the excellent photographs. Congrats on your photos, rare to see such great images in a supposedly review video.
Wise choice. I bought an M4 Midland new in 1974, and it's handling and feel have become second nature over time. I have taken travel pictures with it, family pictures and won awards with more artistic pictures. The only lenses I own are the 35mm Summicron and a 90mm Tele-Elmarit. They're all I need.
Wow, what a wonderful review of the M4. I’d go as far as stamping it as inspiring! :) Very good job! Beautiful editing, great choice of music and words... And those gorgeous images! Hats off!
Hi Hashim, I bought my M4 in the same shop in Japan as you did! Found it funny because I have been following your channel for 3 years with much joy and love. Then I watched your M4 video or rather Japan vlog2 and saw exactly you in exactly that very shop. I love using my M4 since I got it there in 2017. Enjoy yours! Love and thanks, Ralf in Germany
Such a well done review! I’ve owned an M3 and M8 for some time now and adore them. Carrying and using them is a joy. Aesthetics are important to me. It probably sounds foolish but I just feel good carrying around both of these. When I bought each of them, several years apart, they cost about $2,000.00 US. I love their straightforward design and aesthetics. Much of my work is monochrome street or documentary. I’m rather fond of old Soviet lenses bought on eBay. Some are delightfully nostalgic and render timeless images. Keep up the fine work.
Hey Hashem, haven’t seen your channel pop up in my UA-cam feed for a while. Glad I rediscovered your channel. I got my M4 a few years ago and I definitely need to shoot it more. I always end up picking up my medium format cameras but this video is making me wanna shoot with my M4 more.
Thanks for this review Hashem, I'm still hoping to get an M body some day. I am a long time Zeiss lens user though. Your photos are terrific, especially (as you said) with the rendering of that Sonnar 50mm F1.5...
I bought my M3 10 years ago and have loved shooting with it. I agree with your comment, get whatever lenses you want and shoot with them, especially considering today's prices. I personally bought a Leica body so I could shoot with Leica glass. I have a 50mm summicron DR and a 35mm goggled summaron. I absolutely love the images I get with these lenses. I've been curious about the Zeiss lenses but not enough to buy one. I've been wanting to buy an M6 for some time now but the prices have gotten ridiculous. I'm considering buying an M4 but what I really want is a new MA. I learned photography and shot with a Nikon FM for 10 years before I bought the M3. I bought a Nikon FE about 6 months ago and love that camera. Ironically, I'm looking out for a good condition Zeiss 35mm f2 ZF.2 for the FE.
Nice set of lenses. I loved my 90mm Tele Elmarit.f2.8. Great landscapes with snow on mountains! Portraits are very good. I love that one can pack and use a tiny bag!
I've had an M4 for several years and absolutely love it. After a year or so I invested in an M5, which although not very popular, is a great body. I know own an M6 and I still find myself using the M4 more often. I wanted the 28mm lens & that's why I got the M6. Like you I use Zeiss lenses more than Leica lenses. I've got the 28mm, 35mm & 50mm Zeiss lenses. I've also got a Summacron 90mm. The Leica cameras make great travel gear due to small size & reliability. If you've got the money you can't go wrong with it.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and especially the pictures that you made during your journeys. It really shows how you have been using the different lenses. I actually have an M4 already - my father has been a photographer all his life. I am trying to decide what to keep from his equipment and what to put up for sale. The Leica will stay for sure. But will have it serviced first.
Beautiful images and great review, Hashem! I am also invested in the Leica M system and own the same Tele-Elmarit 90mm 2.8: very small and great for landscapes indeed! Cheers, Daniel
The M4 series is definitely underrated, I never had the intention in buying a Leica as I have the Voigtlander Bessa R2 but a mate owed me for some work I did so he gave me his M4-P. It's a nice camera, can't really knock it and its nicer than the Bessa, but I can't compare to the other M's. I invested in Voigtlander glass and am very happy with the results I've gotten and I love how compact the Rangefinder system is.
I'm currently using the Nikon S3 Limited Edition with the 50mm F/1.4 millennium lens. It's a beautiful camera. But I still can't quite get my mind off the Leica M4. Really like how you've presented your experience of the M4 and provided us with some stunning sample photos. The shot at 5:27 is gorgeous. It shows off the capabilities of the camera and lens but also your artistic vision. Well done!
damn I just realized how much I love your photographs, love the tone of the video as well. I ordered myself an M4-P this morning after having used an M6 for a little less than 2 years. I've found myself taking better exposed pictures with a handheld sekonic as I'm more deliberate, and needed something that I wouldn't baby as much as my M6.
Hey thanks so much! What a great purchase, I'm sure you'll grow to love it. You should watch Kodachrome with Ed Harris if you haven't seen it. A nice bit of M4-P inspiration :-D
You’ve done some fantastic work it. I recently got a M4 (after selling my M7) as I love the styling of the original full mechanical Ms, wanted the quick load system, and can live without the meter built in. Miss the M7’s aperture priority mode, but the M4 handles like a dream.
I've got an M4, too. I love that little 50mm lens you've got on it. I'm a huge fan of Zeiss as well, with a lot of their lenses, from Hasselblad to Contax to Sony.
The 50mm Sonnar is just amazing. It gives you a good amount of character wide open wich is just perfect for portraits, and if you stop it down it has that tack sharp modern look. Two lenses in one you could say!
Very good video. I have an M4. My favorite film camera. Have both Zeiss and Leica lenses. You are so right. Zeiss makes a great lens. In my opinion compataible to Leica lenses. Enjoy your travel...
Beautiful photos and great review - thanks for sharing! I'm a fellow M4 owner, and I am absolutely in love with the camera. Rather than spending several hundred or even thousands more on another Leica body (M6, MA, etc.), I'd suggest investing that money in a Summicron lens.
thanks for sharing your experience en your shots with us. very inspiring for me. I've M4 body but because am not good in Sunny 16 I don't use it much. maybe I've looking for a good external lightmeter. I was shaming when you was talking about your love for your M4, because I some kind of underestimating my M4, some kind of hate to be honest. but now I'll have more respect for my M4 camera.
Great video. I recently started shooting with the Leica M6 and a Voigtlander 35mm f2 Ultron. The experience is so rewarding. Looking to add the exact same 50mm and 90mm you have... would like a review of both of those! Stay safe.
When I got into Leica I had the chance to get a M6 with 3 lenses and the motordrive for an absolute bargain. Meanwhile the bug got me... bought a M240 from a friend in Hong Kong.... then a M2 crossed my way... and the very best happend this year: A M8.2 Safari set (1 of 500 existing) came to me like a wonder... and guess what? I will never sell one of them 😁😁😁 ... Leica is very special and a important part of my family history. Every Leica has its unique history how you got it. And you will never sell your M4 ... or you will regret it. Good video! Thanks!
Great review as always, man. I'm the same way. A Leica M body, 35mm, 50mm and 90mm glass. The Tele-Elmarit 90mm 2.8 has really grown on me. Great portraiture lens (although I think the 50mm 'Cron is still my favorite for portraits.) Good stuff, man. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Ted! Yeah I remember you talking about getting that lens in one of your podcasts, cool to hear it's grown on you! Hope you've been well man.. gotta get you back on the airwaves 😁
@@pushingfilm Yeah, kind of been on Hiatus since the covid thing started. Just taken a break from stuff, but I think I'll probably start up again soon. Already have some ideas for some conversations. Thanks man!
Right now everything LEICA has gone up so drastically Hashem! I just put my 90mm F4 Leica Lens today! The M4 seems to be still out of my range and even the Leica M3 seems to be going out of my price range! The quality of imagery Leica puts out is mind blowing amazing! I was never a Leica guy only because of the hype! Great overview Hashem!
Thank you! I look forward to eventually doing that review! I read Hamish Gill's review over on 35mmc multiple times over the years before finally pulling the trigger, it's a really good starting point :-)
Pushing Film Thanks I'll check it out. I'll also be making Leica M related content in the near future too so your channel has been nice. Discovered through our friend Jae. ;)
I’ve been contemplating the ZM Sonnar for years as well. Do you find yourself having to stop it down to f2 and/or worrying about focus shift as well? Love the channel!
Will H I did a test with my Zeiss 50mm f/1.5 when I first got it. I set my phone up with the calculator app open displaying the f/stop I was shooting at. This test showed that in real use and on film there wasn’t real noticeable shift on my shots from f/1.5-5.6. Most of the focusing issues at f/1.5 will be due to slight user error or camera being slightly out of calibration.
While visiting London in 2018 I saw a used M6 at a camera store, very clean and tempting for 1.900 or so Pounds. Back then I thought it was too much, fast forward to 2020 and I went back to checking out prices, wow they're starting at $2600 for a decent body!!!!. M4s are waaaay more affordable.
I love my M4, my Zeiss Sonnar 50, Leica Summicron 50 v2 Rigid DR, Biogon 25/2.8, Summaron 35/2.8, Elmar 90/4 collapsible, Elmar 135/4 non-tele and those lenses also render so well on my M246 Monochrom.
I have several M bodies, but use the M4 the most, mostly because it came to me with more wear and I don't have to worry about banging it up. It sure is sweet. I dislike cameras with inbuilt light meters, because if they break you are screwed.
When looking to get into Leica I was really considering the M4. Gorgeous camera. I ended up going with a Leica M5. Like you said it’s definitely an under rated camera within the Leica world.
How are you liking the M5 so far? Im thinking of saving up for one since they’re the most interesting (in my opinion) in the M body line up with the shape and how undesirable they are amongst the enthusiasts
Timithy I have had mine for a little over a year now. I love it. Light meter is extremely accurate and I love the design of the shutter speed dial. I can change the shutter speed without taking my eye away from the viewfinder. If you don’t mind the different look, if you want a built in meter, and want a budget (for a Leica that is) Leica it’s a great choice! Good luck with your search.
This camera has been on my shopping list since your original review but still can't afford it. I managed to do a trade for Voigtländer Bessa R and I like it a lot but I still crave the M4... Anyway. Love your content, keep up the good work
@@cggg490 Personally, I think the 90mm Tele-Elmarit is better. It's got that typical Leica 3D pop, warm coatings and razor sharp focus, yet super smooth falloff. The Summarit line is more like Voigtländer lenses imo. Great lenses, but a bit more clinical. So I went for a Voigtländer 75mm F1.8 for that focal length. Extremely good value on the used market!
Have you thought about carrying 2 bodies with different focal lenses during your travels? One for street and the other for close up portraits. Your photos are amazing!!
After years of dreaming about one, I got an M6TTL .85 at a pretty good price. I use the Zeiss 35mm f/2 Biogon and it is a superb lens! Next on my list is the 90mm for portraits. Although I still don't know if a rangefinder is the best option for portraits...
Damn, you showcased lots of amazing photos but I have to say something about the one at 6:32 got me. Wong kar wai - in the mood for love - vibes, maybe? You may have sold me on getting a Leica....
Thanks Renata! haha thank you for the compliment, although I'm not familiar with his work I have seen some of the references :-) Oops, don't blame me for the hole in your bank account 😅
I went through the M4 / M4P / M6 crunch in 2018. The M4P was at best 400 AUD cheaper. The M4 was almost as expensive as my M6 in the end. It really is another story today with Leica. There is an opening in the market for Voigtlander/Zeiss to tool up another run of new RF’s
I recently pick up the Canon P to get a feel for a rangefinder. Feels nice and solid and see why people like rangefinder focusing, however the camera I feel its an extension of my body is the Pentax MX, One day i really want to compare it to a leica, small and reliable with great lenses.
Your shots are so true to life. Great shots as always. BTW, because of your channel I bought a nikon FE which is my favourite camera as well. Anyway, how do you scan your negatives those are so sharp. Keep posting please. Cheers!
Thanks so much! Haha yes, love the FE. My scans in this video are from a mixture of methods. The sharpest ones are from DLSR-"scanning" and using Negative Lab Pro. The majority of them are from the Biogon 2.8 lens though, which is crazy sharp (probably accounts for most of it)
@@pushingfilm Thanks. I will definitely try the DSLR/Mirrorless scanning. Your videos are so inspiring and make me wanna shoot more. Just so sad that this Corona is a hindrance to go outside more. Also, it is rainig cats and dogs here in the Philippines.
I have a Leica iiia with a Canon lens, but have the desire for an M. I've looked at the M4,5,6 and 7. I ruled out the 6 and 7 due to the cost. I will take another look at the M4. Thank you for the information.
We chase the black box we often forget its only a tool carry the m2 and the Nikon FM2 my bread and butter tools but in my older age its a brand its a tool a hammer a screw driver I adapt adjust and engage no matter. Towards the end I finally willed it to my purpose of use
I can only suggest that everybody, who wants to own a Leica M and not spend M6 money to also check the M5. It is cheaper than the M4, comparable in price to the M4-P and - if well maintained - meters perfectly, Actually even better than the M6, because it has a much tighter metering spot. You do not have a center weighted meter like in the M6, but almost a spot meter, allowing you to measure shadows and highlights separately. And it is - just like the M4 - built in Germany by hand with brass and all the things that made the early M cameras special. Qualitywise M2, M3, M4 and M5 are the special cameras. I owned an M6 some years ago, I do own an M5 now. And I actually think that it is the better camera - ergonomics and near spot metering make it my favorite M. I do not care about the looks very much. The size is ok.
I have a M3, M4, M6 (all bought several years ago at cheaper prices than now) The M6 sees the least amount of use and brings me the least amount of joy. Glad to see you using the Zeiss lenses. They are amazing and I use them over Leica lenses.
@@pushingfilm The MP was great but the only thing I disliked about it was that the light meter had to be turned off at "B" setting every time if not used. Secondly, the meter simply made me a really lazy photographer and I never found myself trusting my own judgement of reading light (sunny 16). Hence, I replaced it with an M3. The M3 was great! No metering meant I really got good at reading lighting conditions. It was so freeing for me to use a camera without any electronic crutches. By the way, the M3 was actually heavier than the MP by a few grams. After a year with the M3, I finally replaced the M3 with the MA because the M3 did not have a contrasty rangefinder patch compared to the MA/MP; I always wished the M3 optics was better. The MA and MP both have the latest super contrasty viewfinder rangefinder patch. The MA was pure analog (no electronics) and had the best of the viewfinder optics as that of the MP which the M3 lacked. The MA is perfect for me, NO METER and has the latest viewfinder/rangefinder glass for that ultimate contrast and NO glare issue!!!! I have the all chrome black which is simply gorgeous :)
@@vangstr Interesting, I find that all quite relatable.. even more reason why I see the MA as the preferred option I would go for after the M4. I absolutely love that chrome black finish, and of course, the newer viewfinder and extra frame lines would be nice
Great video, and your pictures are very fine; a whole step above the usual random "street" photos that folks show on UA-cam. Also, yes, there are a number of 90mm options for the Leica, but I think the Tele-Elmarit is the best compromise between size, sharpness and cost. As you have discovered, there's no need for f1.1 lenses for outdoor photography.
I have had a M7, M3 and M4 and I cannot agree more. The M4 is the best mechanical M camera. The Reveni Lab meter provides now a great option to fill in the gap too.
For sure! it's great that there are more smaller companies making compact and useful light meters, meaning you don't have to hunt for a vintage one anymore
Awesome video man thank you for sharing. I purchased an M4 with a new Zeiss 35 f2 Biogon several years ago and love it. At the time of purchase I wanted an M6 but wanted a Leica so bad I went with what I could afford at the time and the M4 was highly regarded. The M6’s were going for around 2k back then but now they are so expensive. Mine could do with a CLA do you have any recommendations in Aus? I would love to send to YYE Camera but I am worried about sending it overseas.
Thanks for watching it! I used 2 of the only experienced Leica repairers available here, but I got quite unlucky with the quality and success if the service in my case which is what resulted in the use of both repairers and also multiple returns to the second one before they eventially realised their error. For that reason I wish I sent it to YYE, it actually would have worked out cheaper and saved me so much time. I totally understand the fear to ship it though, as thats also what deterred me at initially.
Pushing Film thank you for your feedback man. I am sorry to hear you had a bad experience and it is not the first time I have heard of this, unfortunately. It might just pay for me to take the chance and send it to the best in the industry. Keep up the great content, I’ll check out some more of your videos soon 👍
It was cheaper, more compact, and I didn't see the benefit of f/2 over 2.8 with the way I use this lens most of the time (not that it wouldn't be nice for the occasional portrait or low light shot! But, most my stuff with this lens is stopped down street work)
Wow this focus tab hack is amazing! I recently purchased an M4 and have been agonising over which 35mm lens to buy. I've narrowed it down to the Carl Zeiss 35mm Biogon 2.8 or the Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 ii. By all accounts the Zeiss is a stunning lens on par with the Leica glass, however, the lack of a Leica style focus tab was a deal breaker for me. The slower aperture also worries me as I like the idea of having a 'do all' 35 for film shooting including low light situations. But i'm drawn to the glowing reviews of the Zeiss and its sharpness as well! Now knowing i can add a tab to the Zeiss might get it over the line. How have you found the 2.8 for your film work in terms of low light etc, have you found it limiting at all? I prefer not to shoot high ISO film because of the extra costs and prefer to shoot at box speed without pushing film in development.
I've never found 2.8 restrictive, at least not with that focal length. The beauty of the rangefinder is you can use speeds like 1/8-1/30 pretty easily on a 35mm lens. If you have a lot of movement, like fast-paced street shooting under lower light, this could be an issue though. But of course, there's the craving for low light ability, bokeh and separation...and for those reasons, I got the Sonnar 50 1.5!
Pushing Film thanks, that’s handy to know! I’ll probably go for the 2.8. The Zeiss 50 1.5 sounds great but all the talk about the focus shift issues scared me off it. I’ve got the 7artisans 50 1.1 on the way to me which is also a sonnar design, will see how it goes. Great channel 👍
I love how you say the idea that Leica is the only glass to use is “crap”. I have Voigtlander lenses and they are excellent. Also, Zeiss makes great lenses as you stated. As far as rangefinders the Zeiss Ikon is an excellent camera as an alternative to Leica. Thanks for the great review. Leica is nice but overpriced and not necessary for great photography. (I would love to own a Leica film body though)
Maaan this was so great and the photo at 6:32, though they’re all good, this one hit me! So, so good. Had to pause the video to say this.
Thanks man! nothing but good old Kodak Gold too. I'm starting to learn how much more the light, subject, and actual color palette of the "set" is, than the film stock or camera whenever I get shots back like that. Everyone dreams of Kodachrome and such, but there's a lot to be said for the scene you're actually shooting, and even how it's exposed and processed :-)
for me it was the portrait at 7:33. literally went "MMMM" out loud haha. just a gorgeous portrait.
Looks like something shot by Christopher Doyle
Yep, had the exact same reaction. Killer shot!
Came here for the opinion on a camera, stayed for the excellent photographs.
Congrats on your photos, rare to see such great images in a supposedly review video.
Wise choice. I bought an M4 Midland new in 1974, and it's handling and feel have become second nature over time. I have taken travel pictures with it, family pictures and won awards with more artistic pictures. The only lenses I own are the 35mm Summicron and a 90mm Tele-Elmarit. They're all I need.
Thank you, that must be so nice to have had it since new! Thats a nice lens duo too :-)
Wow that’s so cool!
Wow, what a wonderful review of the M4. I’d go as far as stamping it as inspiring! :) Very good job! Beautiful editing, great choice of music and words... And those gorgeous images! Hats off!
Thanks so much! Really appreciate it 🙂
Hi Hashim, I bought my M4 in the same shop in Japan as you did! Found it funny because I have been following your channel for 3 years with much joy and love. Then I watched your M4 video or rather Japan vlog2 and saw exactly you in exactly that very shop. I love using my M4 since I got it there in 2017. Enjoy yours! Love and thanks, Ralf in Germany
Such a well done review! I’ve owned an M3 and M8 for some time now and adore them. Carrying and using them is a joy. Aesthetics are important to me. It probably sounds foolish but I just feel good carrying around both of these. When I bought each of them, several years apart, they cost about $2,000.00 US. I love their straightforward design and aesthetics. Much of my work is monochrome street or documentary. I’m rather fond of old Soviet lenses bought on eBay. Some are delightfully nostalgic and render timeless images. Keep up the fine work.
Hey Hashem, haven’t seen your channel pop up in my UA-cam feed for a while. Glad I rediscovered your channel. I got my M4 a few years ago and I definitely need to shoot it more. I always end up picking up my medium format cameras but this video is making me wanna shoot with my M4 more.
Nice, hope you do!
Thanks for this review Hashem, I'm still hoping to get an M body some day. I am a long time Zeiss lens user though. Your photos are terrific, especially (as you said) with the rendering of that Sonnar 50mm F1.5...
Great review well presented. Good pics and those at 1.36 and 9.09 really highlight your potential.
The images are beautiful. Very nice work. And thank you for the video. I’m loving my M5 and Voigtlander 35mm lens.
Hey thanks so much! That's a great combo, both quite underrated 🙂
Great intro Hashem👍love this one dude. So cool seeing your holiday photos from Nepal and India with Sarah 😊
Thanks Kylie!
Thank you for this Review!! Really really good and wonderful photos!
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching ,and the kind words :-)
I bought my M3 10 years ago and have loved shooting with it. I agree with your comment, get whatever lenses you want and shoot with them, especially considering today's prices. I personally bought a Leica body so I could shoot with Leica glass. I have a 50mm summicron DR and a 35mm goggled summaron. I absolutely love the images I get with these lenses. I've been curious about the Zeiss lenses but not enough to buy one. I've been wanting to buy an M6 for some time now but the prices have gotten ridiculous. I'm considering buying an M4 but what I really want is a new MA. I learned photography and shot with a Nikon FM for 10 years before I bought the M3. I bought a Nikon FE about 6 months ago and love that camera. Ironically, I'm looking out for a good condition Zeiss 35mm f2 ZF.2 for the FE.
Nice set of lenses. I loved my 90mm Tele Elmarit.f2.8. Great landscapes with snow on mountains! Portraits are very good. I love that one can pack and use a tiny bag!
I've had an M4 for several years and absolutely love it. After a year or so I invested in an M5, which although not very popular, is a great body. I know own an M6 and I still find myself using the M4 more often. I wanted the 28mm lens & that's why I got the M6. Like you I use Zeiss lenses more than Leica lenses. I've got the 28mm, 35mm & 50mm Zeiss lenses. I've also got a Summacron 90mm. The Leica cameras make great travel gear due to small size & reliability. If you've got the money you can't go wrong with it.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and especially the pictures that you made during your journeys. It really shows how you have been using the different lenses. I actually have an M4 already - my father has been a photographer all his life. I am trying to decide what to keep from his equipment and what to put up for sale. The Leica will stay for sure. But will have it serviced first.
Thank you so much! Glad to hear the Leica is staying 👍
Beautiful images and great review, Hashem! I am also invested in the Leica M system and own the same Tele-Elmarit 90mm 2.8: very small and great for landscapes indeed! Cheers, Daniel
Thanks Daniel!
The M4 series is definitely underrated, I never had the intention in buying a Leica as I have the Voigtlander Bessa R2 but a mate owed me for some work I did so he gave me his M4-P. It's a nice camera, can't really knock it and its nicer than the Bessa, but I can't compare to the other M's. I invested in Voigtlander glass and am very happy with the results I've gotten and I love how compact the Rangefinder system is.
This is one of the better personal reviews of a camera I have seen. Subscribing.
Thank you!
The photos are spectacular in this video! Great job!
Thanks very much!
FANTASTIC video babe! Killing it!!
Thank youu ☺️
I'm currently using the Nikon S3 Limited Edition with the 50mm F/1.4 millennium lens. It's a beautiful camera. But I still can't quite get my mind off the Leica M4. Really like how you've presented your experience of the M4 and provided us with some stunning sample photos. The shot at 5:27 is gorgeous. It shows off the capabilities of the camera and lens but also your artistic vision. Well done!
Hey, thanks very much! Those Nikon S rangefinders look amazing, I'm sure it's also great to use.
I just got an M4 and i’m planning on keeping it for a LONG time. Got a CLA from YYE & it’s insanely smooth.
Same here, I bought mine from him directly, and it is the smoothest camera I have used. Like butter.
jon louis Dang I forgot that was an option haha
Jean F Damn I should’ve gotten that done haha. I get flares pretty often
All the photos are amazing!!
I LOVE my M4!!!! I use the Leica/Zeiss combo...
damn I just realized how much I love your photographs, love the tone of the video as well. I ordered myself an M4-P this morning after having used an M6 for a little less than 2 years. I've found myself taking better exposed pictures with a handheld sekonic as I'm more deliberate, and needed something that I wouldn't baby as much as my M6.
Hey thanks so much! What a great purchase, I'm sure you'll grow to love it. You should watch Kodachrome with Ed Harris if you haven't seen it. A nice bit of M4-P inspiration :-D
@@pushingfilm ah man he's my favorite! I could be that grandpa haha
You’ve done some fantastic work it. I recently got a M4 (after selling my M7) as I love the styling of the original full mechanical Ms, wanted the quick load system, and can live without the meter built in. Miss the M7’s aperture priority mode, but the M4 handles like a dream.
Hey thanks Chris, yeah I noticed on your IG story that you ended up getting one! Did you decide on the lens?
@@pushingfilm It came with the 7Artisans 35mm f2, but I wasn't digging it. Ended up buying a new Voigtlander Nokton 35mm 1.4.
awesome vid! loving the discord server so far!
Thank you!
came for the camera review but amazed by the photos you took
I've got an M4, too. I love that little 50mm lens you've got on it. I'm a huge fan of Zeiss as well, with a lot of their lenses, from Hasselblad to Contax to Sony.
Awesome! Yeah I don't think I'll ever give up the 2 zeiss lenses I have 😁
Such a beautiful camera looks like yours is in great condition too. That's a fresh jacket as well haha. Great video man!
Thanks Ben! Minus a dent in the corner, it's pretty good! (in Japan stuff like that's brought the grade and price down a fair bit)
The 50mm Sonnar is just amazing. It gives you a good amount of character wide open wich is just perfect for portraits, and if you stop it down it has that tack sharp modern look. Two lenses in one you could say!
Man, that intro never gets old 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Really stunning shots!
Thank you! 😁
Very good video. I have an M4. My favorite film camera. Have both Zeiss and Leica lenses. You are so right. Zeiss makes a great lens. In my opinion compataible to Leica lenses. Enjoy your travel...
Super glad you got the M4... always happy to be your enabler
Haha thanks John! I can certainly blame you for that... but in a good way 😁
@@pushingfilm as long as you are HAPPY!
Beautiful photos and great review - thanks for sharing! I'm a fellow M4 owner, and I am absolutely in love with the camera. Rather than spending several hundred or even thousands more on another Leica body (M6, MA, etc.), I'd suggest investing that money in a Summicron lens.
Thank you!
It's great to find a camera that you love to use. I thoroughly enjoy my Canon VT Deluxe w/ 21mm f4 Voigtlander Color Skopar MC ltm 🌟🌟🌟👍
The production of your videos has really improved in such a short time. That intro was so good. echo chamber, I know. lol But true none the less.
Thanks Jen! Lockdown has me all cooped up with more time for creative stuff haha
thanks for sharing your experience en your shots with us. very inspiring for me. I've M4 body but because am not good in Sunny 16 I don't use it much. maybe I've looking for a good external lightmeter. I was shaming when you was talking about your love for your M4, because I some kind of underestimating my M4, some kind of hate to be honest. but now I'll have more respect for my M4 camera.
Great video. I recently started shooting with the Leica M6 and a Voigtlander 35mm f2 Ultron. The experience is so rewarding. Looking to add the exact same 50mm and 90mm you have... would like a review of both of those! Stay safe.
Hey, thanks Luis! great combo you have there, and it certainly is rewarding!
When I got into Leica I had the chance to get a M6 with 3 lenses and the motordrive for an absolute bargain. Meanwhile the bug got me... bought a M240 from a friend in Hong Kong.... then a M2 crossed my way... and the very best happend this year: A M8.2 Safari set (1 of 500 existing) came to me like a wonder... and guess what? I will never sell one of them 😁😁😁 ... Leica is very special and a important part of my family history. Every Leica has its unique history how you got it. And you will never sell your M4 ... or you will regret it. Good video! Thanks!
Great review I use a Canon 35mm f1.8 ltm on M2 I love this combo! It is my forever camera.
Nice!👍🌟🌟🌟
Love you review! Agree the sonnar is an amazing lens and takes beautiful portraits!!!!
Thanks Alan! I enjoy seeing your photos from it 😁
Great review as always, man. I'm the same way. A Leica M body, 35mm, 50mm and 90mm glass. The Tele-Elmarit 90mm 2.8 has really grown on me. Great portraiture lens (although I think the 50mm 'Cron is still my favorite for portraits.) Good stuff, man. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Ted! Yeah I remember you talking about getting that lens in one of your podcasts, cool to hear it's grown on you! Hope you've been well man.. gotta get you back on the airwaves 😁
@@pushingfilm Yeah, kind of been on Hiatus since the covid thing started. Just taken a break from stuff, but I think I'll probably start up again soon. Already have some ideas for some conversations. Thanks man!
Right now everything LEICA has gone up so drastically Hashem! I just put my 90mm F4 Leica Lens today! The M4 seems to be still out of my range and even the Leica M3 seems to be going out of my price range! The quality of imagery Leica puts out is mind blowing amazing! I was never a Leica guy only because of the hype! Great overview Hashem!
Hey Lang, thanks man. Yeah it's becoming really hard to justify buying them second hand, whith the exception of a few models!
Great video! Looking forward to the Zeiss review as I am considering that lens soon. 🙏
Thank you! I look forward to eventually doing that review! I read Hamish Gill's review over on 35mmc multiple times over the years before finally pulling the trigger, it's a really good starting point :-)
Pushing Film Thanks I'll check it out. I'll also be making Leica M related content in the near future too so your channel has been nice. Discovered through our friend Jae. ;)
I’ve been contemplating the ZM Sonnar for years as well. Do you find yourself having to stop it down to f2 and/or worrying about focus shift as well? Love the channel!
Will H I did a test with my Zeiss 50mm f/1.5 when I first got it. I set my phone up with the calculator app open displaying the f/stop I was shooting at. This test showed that in real use and on film there wasn’t real noticeable shift on my shots from f/1.5-5.6. Most of the focusing issues at f/1.5 will be due to slight user error or camera being slightly out of calibration.
Thanks Zach. I have a recently calibrated M3, so perhaps it’ll be just fine.
I'm in love with the image on 7.44
Love the shots
Thank you!
These photos are beautiful.
that is one satisfying intro :)
While visiting London in 2018 I saw a used M6 at a camera store, very clean and tempting for 1.900 or so Pounds. Back then I thought it was too much, fast forward to 2020 and I went back to checking out prices, wow they're starting at $2600 for a decent body!!!!. M4s are waaaay more affordable.
Great video and very helpful
Thank you!
I love my M4, my Zeiss Sonnar 50, Leica Summicron 50 v2 Rigid DR, Biogon 25/2.8, Summaron 35/2.8, Elmar 90/4 collapsible, Elmar 135/4 non-tele and those lenses also render so well on my M246 Monochrom.
nice setup!
I have several M bodies, but use the M4 the most, mostly because it came to me with more wear and I don't have to worry about banging it up. It sure is sweet. I dislike cameras with inbuilt light meters, because if they break you are screwed.
When looking to get into Leica I was really considering the M4. Gorgeous camera. I ended up going with a Leica M5. Like you said it’s definitely an under rated camera within the Leica world.
For sure, another great choice!
How are you liking the M5 so far? Im thinking of saving up for one since they’re the most interesting (in my opinion) in the M body line up with the shape and how undesirable they are amongst the enthusiasts
Timithy I have had mine for a little over a year now. I love it. Light meter is extremely accurate and I love the design of the shutter speed dial. I can change the shutter speed without taking my eye away from the viewfinder. If you don’t mind the different look, if you want a built in meter, and want a budget (for a Leica that is) Leica it’s a great choice! Good luck with your search.
albert berdon thanks a lot!
I really like the M5, but one of my favored lenses is the Summicron 5cm v2 Rigid DR, which does not mount on the M5, so I got an M4.
This camera has been on my shopping list since your original review but still can't afford it. I managed to do a trade for Voigtländer Bessa R and I like it a lot but I still crave the M4... Anyway. Love your content, keep up the good work
Thanks so much! I was very close to getting a Bessa at the time too, they're great cameras
The 90mm Tele-Elmarit is great! One of my favourites.
Been debating between the 90mm tele-elmarit and the 75mm summarit.
@@cggg490 Personally, I think the 90mm Tele-Elmarit is better. It's got that typical Leica 3D pop, warm coatings and razor sharp focus, yet super smooth falloff. The Summarit line is more like Voigtländer lenses imo. Great lenses, but a bit more clinical. So I went for a Voigtländer 75mm F1.8 for that focal length. Extremely good value on the used market!
Have you thought about carrying 2 bodies with different focal lenses during your travels? One for street and the other for close up portraits. Your photos are amazing!!
Thanks so much! I do that for weddings and other work sometimes, but for travel I think I would prefer 1 camera :-)
@@pushingfilm Got it!
Great video!
Thanks! Glad you liked it
Super, super photos!
Appreciate it! 😁
After years of dreaming about one, I got an M6TTL .85 at a pretty good price. I use the Zeiss 35mm f/2 Biogon and it is a superb lens! Next on my list is the 90mm for portraits. Although I still don't know if a rangefinder is the best option for portraits...
Nice man! If you're unsure, a good compromise might be a 50mm then 😁
I would love to see a review of Zeiss Sonnar 50mm!
I just got lucky and a friend of mine gave me this one with a summicron and a light meter. Great video
Oh that's awesome! Thank you 🙂
Damn, you showcased lots of amazing photos but I have to say something about the one at 6:32 got me. Wong kar wai - in the mood for love - vibes, maybe? You may have sold me on getting a Leica....
Thanks Renata! haha thank you for the compliment, although I'm not familiar with his work I have seen some of the references :-) Oops, don't blame me for the hole in your bank account 😅
@@pushingfilm 😂💸
I went through the M4 / M4P / M6 crunch in 2018. The M4P was at best 400 AUD cheaper. The M4 was almost as expensive as my M6 in the end. It really is another story today with Leica. There is an opening in the market for Voigtlander/Zeiss to tool up another run of new RF’s
Yeah it seems like things are definitely changing in that regard! It would be great if they did come up with something new.
M4 has a more accurate finder than M4-P & M6 at usual working distances...
nice to see there are some options that won't cost and arm and a leg 😬
I recently pick up the Canon P to get a feel for a rangefinder. Feels nice and solid and see why people like rangefinder focusing, however the camera I feel its an extension of my body is the Pentax MX, One day i really want to compare it to a leica, small and reliable with great lenses.
Would love to hear some updates as I just got my canon P as an intro into the RF world
Your shots are so true to life. Great shots as always. BTW, because of your channel I bought a nikon FE which is my favourite camera as well. Anyway, how do you scan your negatives those are so sharp. Keep posting please. Cheers!
Thanks so much! Haha yes, love the FE. My scans in this video are from a mixture of methods. The sharpest ones are from DLSR-"scanning" and using Negative Lab Pro. The majority of them are from the Biogon 2.8 lens though, which is crazy sharp (probably accounts for most of it)
@@pushingfilm Thanks. I will definitely try the DSLR/Mirrorless scanning. Your videos are so inspiring and make me wanna shoot more. Just so sad that this Corona is a hindrance to go outside more. Also, it is rainig cats and dogs here in the Philippines.
I have a Leica iiia with a Canon lens, but have the desire for an M. I've looked at the M4,5,6 and 7. I ruled out the 6 and 7 due to the cost. I will take another look at the M4. Thank you for the information.
Thanks for watching! good luck with it :-)
Any reason why you discount the M2 & M3?
@@iNerdier In general, they are about the same price as the M4, more than the M5 and I prefer the loading and rewind crank of the newer models.
AndyB agreed. Rewinding those things is horrible.
i have 2 m4 and they are may favorite
Nice pictures. Good video
Thank you! :-)
I hit the like button immediately.
I would recommend a soft release button. You can handheld at least 1 stop lower.
So glad I got a M6TTL LHSA back in 2010 before all the M6 prices skyrocketed
You should try Voigtlander glass too. I am pretty happy with the 35mm 1.2 and they have nice wide angles too
I really want to eventually! I've loved their prime lenses in other mounts
06:32 what a shot! 🙏🏼
Thank you! :-D
Yes the Zeiss lenses have a nice punch to the colour have to Zeiss 35mm f2 and 50mm f2 and both M3 and M4 body’s
Good setup! Their range of lens options actually makes it rather hard to choose!
We chase the black box we often forget its only a tool carry the m2 and the Nikon FM2 my bread and butter tools but in my older age its a brand its a tool a hammer a screw driver I adapt adjust and engage no matter. Towards the end I finally willed it to my purpose of use
Nice photos.
Many thanks!
I can only suggest that everybody, who wants to own a Leica M and not spend M6 money to also check the M5.
It is cheaper than the M4, comparable in price to the M4-P and - if well maintained - meters perfectly, Actually even better than the M6, because it has a much tighter metering spot. You do not have a center weighted meter like in the M6, but almost a spot meter, allowing you to measure shadows and highlights separately.
And it is - just like the M4 - built in Germany by hand with brass and all the things that made the early M cameras special. Qualitywise M2, M3, M4 and M5 are the special cameras.
I owned an M6 some years ago, I do own an M5 now. And I actually think that it is the better camera - ergonomics and near spot metering make it my favorite M. I do not care about the looks very much. The size is ok.
I have a M3, M4, M6 (all bought several years ago at cheaper prices than now) The M6 sees the least amount of use and brings me the least amount of joy.
Glad to see you using the Zeiss lenses. They are amazing and I use them over Leica lenses.
Just had a brief look at eBay. The deal you got for the camera was crazy good. It was more like Bessa money.
Seems that way!
. . . agree, its also the prettiest looks like an MP to me
I went from MP to M3 and finally the MA. I've finally found the camera that suits me.
Nice, I have a lot of interest in the MA... what made you finally go with that over the other two?
@@pushingfilm The MP was great but the only thing I disliked about it was that the light meter had to be turned off at "B" setting every time if not used. Secondly, the meter simply made me a really lazy photographer and I never found myself trusting my own judgement of reading light (sunny 16). Hence, I replaced it with an M3. The M3 was great! No metering meant I really got good at reading lighting conditions. It was so freeing for me to use a camera without any electronic crutches. By the way, the M3 was actually heavier than the MP by a few grams. After a year with the M3, I finally replaced the M3 with the MA because the M3 did not have a contrasty rangefinder patch compared to the MA/MP; I always wished the M3 optics was better. The MA and MP both have the latest super contrasty viewfinder rangefinder patch. The MA was pure analog (no electronics) and had the best of the viewfinder optics as that of the MP which the M3 lacked. The MA is perfect for me, NO METER and has the latest viewfinder/rangefinder glass for that ultimate contrast and NO glare issue!!!! I have the all chrome black which is simply gorgeous :)
@@vangstr Interesting, I find that all quite relatable.. even more reason why I see the MA as the preferred option I would go for after the M4. I absolutely love that chrome black finish, and of course, the newer viewfinder and extra frame lines would be nice
Great video, and your pictures are very fine; a whole step above the usual random "street" photos that folks show on UA-cam.
Also, yes, there are a number of 90mm options for the Leica, but I think the Tele-Elmarit is the best compromise between size, sharpness and cost.
As you have discovered, there's no need for f1.1 lenses for outdoor photography.
Hey, thanks so much, I really appreciate it! 🙂
Zeiss also has a C biogon 21/f4.5 which is very compact ，its also a good choice XD
Very helpful video! Thanks! I'm turn between the M4 and M4-P. Between the build material.. What other differences are there?
Mainly that it has more framelines (including 28mm), and a hotshoe. It's great value, for a Leica.
The M4 is also better built than the M6.
I have had a M7, M3 and M4 and I cannot agree more. The M4 is the best mechanical M camera. The Reveni Lab meter provides now a great option to fill in the gap too.
For sure! it's great that there are more smaller companies making compact and useful light meters, meaning you don't have to hunt for a vintage one anymore
I've got an m4-p for 1.5 years with Biogon 2.8 28mm and now ordered Sonnar 1.5 50 because Biogon is awesom so Sonnar also should be )
Nice! Congrats 😁 I think you'll like the Sonnar
Awesome video man thank you for sharing. I purchased an M4 with a new Zeiss 35 f2 Biogon several years ago and love it. At the time of purchase I wanted an M6 but wanted a Leica so bad I went with what I could afford at the time and the M4 was highly regarded. The M6’s were going for around 2k back then but now they are so expensive. Mine could do with a CLA do you have any recommendations in Aus? I would love to send to YYE Camera but I am worried about sending it overseas.
Thanks for watching it! I used 2 of the only experienced Leica repairers available here, but I got quite unlucky with the quality and success if the service in my case which is what resulted in the use of both repairers and also multiple returns to the second one before they eventially realised their error. For that reason I wish I sent it to YYE, it actually would have worked out cheaper and saved me so much time. I totally understand the fear to ship it though, as thats also what deterred me at initially.
Pushing Film thank you for your feedback man. I am sorry to hear you had a bad experience and it is not the first time I have heard of this, unfortunately. It might just pay for me to take the chance and send it to the best in the industry. Keep up the great content, I’ll check out some more of your videos soon 👍
Thanks for supporting my Instagram and checking out my work. Good videos
Any time!
what made you decide on the zeiss 35 f/2.8 over the f/2? i have the 28mm zm and love 35mm focal length, i cant seem to decide!
It was cheaper, more compact, and I didn't see the benefit of f/2 over 2.8 with the way I use this lens most of the time (not that it wouldn't be nice for the occasional portrait or low light shot! But, most my stuff with this lens is stopped down street work)
Note for the M4-2; it’s cheaper, but still just as worth as the M4 the only thing i wish it had was an actual iso reminder dial.
Nice Tissot shot 😉
And obviously good video 😂 your original M4 videos were crucial in me picking up my own, and I love it.
Thanks William!
As an aside, that denim jacket is fire! Who made it?
Wow this focus tab hack is amazing! I recently purchased an M4 and have been agonising over which 35mm lens to buy. I've narrowed it down to the Carl Zeiss 35mm Biogon 2.8 or the Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 ii. By all accounts the Zeiss is a stunning lens on par with the Leica glass, however, the lack of a Leica style focus tab was a deal breaker for me. The slower aperture also worries me as I like the idea of having a 'do all' 35 for film shooting including low light situations. But i'm drawn to the glowing reviews of the Zeiss and its sharpness as well! Now knowing i can add a tab to the Zeiss might get it over the line. How have you found the 2.8 for your film work in terms of low light etc, have you found it limiting at all? I prefer not to shoot high ISO film because of the extra costs and prefer to shoot at box speed without pushing film in development.
I've never found 2.8 restrictive, at least not with that focal length. The beauty of the rangefinder is you can use speeds like 1/8-1/30 pretty easily on a 35mm lens. If you have a lot of movement, like fast-paced street shooting under lower light, this could be an issue though. But of course, there's the craving for low light ability, bokeh and separation...and for those reasons, I got the Sonnar 50 1.5!
Pushing Film thanks, that’s handy to know! I’ll probably go for the 2.8. The Zeiss 50 1.5 sounds great but all the talk about the focus shift issues scared me off it. I’ve got the 7artisans 50 1.1 on the way to me which is also a sonnar design, will see how it goes. Great channel 👍
hey! what kind of color film are you using there for the photo shown at 3:13? looks great!
Thanks! That was Kodak Pro Image 100
I love how you say the idea that Leica is the only glass to use is “crap”. I have Voigtlander lenses and they are excellent. Also, Zeiss makes great lenses as you stated. As far as rangefinders the Zeiss Ikon is an excellent camera as an alternative to Leica. Thanks for the great review. Leica is nice but overpriced and not necessary for great photography. (I would love to own a Leica film body though)