At -16 Fahrenheit, My Much-Loved Classic Dodge Cummins Left Me Stranded AND Now I Know Why!

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  • @thedirtlifesupreame
    @thedirtlifesupreame Рік тому +39

    Winter diesel blended fuel. And if you get a grill cover, it'll warm up. I used to drive that same truck in the oil fields of Wyoming. Never had issues with gelling and we regularly got down to -30 in the winter.

    • @erikbrown3506
      @erikbrown3506 Рік тому +4

      I wonder what diesel they had in the truck. Most stations up here in Montana have #1, #2, and Blend. I'm guessing they didn't have the proper fuel in it or Colorado doesn't have it as easy available since it doesn't get nearly as cold there.

    • @thedirtlifesupreame
      @thedirtlifesupreame Рік тому

      @@erikbrown3506 We have winter diesel here in Utah. I remember having it when I lived in Montana and Wyoming. In North Dakota, you just use kerosene. lol

    • @erikbrown3506
      @erikbrown3506 Рік тому +8

      @@thedirtlifesupreame I do wish they had at least commented on diesel grades. The whole video seemed like a lot of work for not having used the correct fuel.

    • @BlueDually4x4
      @BlueDually4x4 Рік тому

      To be fair I don't think we ever switched to summer fuel in Wyoming. I did notice I have to be more careful where I buy fuel in Idaho as not every station sells enough diesel they get switched to winterized before it gets cold.

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo Рік тому +41

    There's a couple things you can do in addition to the additive and block heater. Wrap the lines and the filter with something to keep the wind off of it. When you get moving, the spots where the wind hits is where the diesel gels. Also, get a radiator cover for super cold days.

    • @markcollins457
      @markcollins457 Рік тому +1

      Thank you that was my point keep the fuel warm I no poor fuel is bad and moisture makes snowballs in the tank but if you warm the fuel you have a fighting chance. It would be great if we all lived in Florida and our fuel was pristine. But we don't and it ain't!

  • @toddstringer9009
    @toddstringer9009 Рік тому +4

    I have a 05 ram 2500 , and lived in Oregon . We see temperatures in the - all the time in winter. My advice to you is 2 fold. 1st when you’re engine was made Diesel fuel wasn’t the same as it it is today. Today it is USLD “ ultra low sulfur diesel . So today’s diesel doesn’t have the lubricants of yesterdays. So in the summer with about every other fill up I run a additive. In the winter I run anti jell every other fill up. I also have a fass lift pump and have yet to have it jell. Lowest temp in seen is -35
    So fuel additive should give you better lubrication and keep you from jelling up.
    Hope this helps.

  • @Weatherby406
    @Weatherby406 Рік тому +39

    Anti gel before hand.

    • @doublebackagain4311
      @doublebackagain4311 Рік тому +3

      Yes you don't wait to add antifreeze until after your engine freezes, right? Same for fuel.

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 Рік тому +1

      Exactly.

  • @atheistmecca971
    @atheistmecca971 Рік тому +135

    Put something over the front of the truck to block the radiator next time. It will heat right up.

    • @J.Young808
      @J.Young808 Рік тому +10

      When I lived in Portland and Washington I would see all the semi trucks with covers on their radiators. I have seen many trucks with Colorado and Wyoming plates with radiator covers.

    • @CrimeVid
      @CrimeVid Рік тому +28

      Cardboard can be your friend !

    • @Redbloodroadrunner
      @Redbloodroadrunner Рік тому +6

      I have a piece of plywood on mine, works wonders

    • @jackylsmith8138
      @jackylsmith8138 Рік тому +10

      That only keeps the engine temp/coolant warmer. Has nothing to do with fuel.

    • @njb7209
      @njb7209 Рік тому +7

      Yes, hot engine = hot Injection pump = hot fuel. 😊

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann Рік тому +2

    Throw a little Howes in every time you fuel up, it helps prevent it to begin with. We do that all winter for our equipment. Rarely have a problem.

  • @PaulGriffith
    @PaulGriffith Рік тому +2

    If you're tank wasn't full, topping it off at the gas station would have introduced warmer diesel fuel from the underground tank.

  • @salmansiddiq4521
    @salmansiddiq4521 Рік тому +37

    We need more of this truck content on this channel.

  • @alanj7306
    @alanj7306 Рік тому +46

    I’m a big fan of all the time, effort, and money you invested in the truck. You really need to add the anti-gel additive before it’s that cold and drive it around so it can actually work its way through the system. That was just too little and too late. Case, you’re quickly becoming one of my favorite people on TFL. I bought my first diesel last year and just made sure to use preventative measures for the winter. Stanadyne and HotShot additives have been tested and worked for me. They’re 2 of the best. Watch Project Farm on YT, he tests them out.

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 Рік тому +3

      The Project Farm segment on diesel fuel anti-gel products was excellent, as are all his tests. For 10 years when I owned a VW Jetta TDI I used Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement in the white container. Never let me down in below-zero temps.

    • @brentworls8509
      @brentworls8509 Рік тому +1

      @@anthonyc1883 This is a must with diesel...

    • @alanj7306
      @alanj7306 Рік тому +1

      @Anthony, that’s my middle name haha 😆. I have a Duramax, but whatever the diesel, you have to use the additives. I have always liked those TDI VWs. Take care of them and they take care of you. Glad you haven’t had any cold weather issues.

    • @lonerider5315
      @lonerider5315 Рік тому

      Hes american, there is no thinking

  • @bad05ford
    @bad05ford Рік тому +13

    Anti gel won't work once the fuel had reached the cloud point. Also, to much can also have a negative effect and raise the cloud point vs lower it. It's all about correct ratio and chemical reactions.

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 Рік тому +10

    I dumped a bunch of anti-gel in all 3 of my diesel trucks ahead of the big cold snap and had zero problems. Just an fyi, in a pinch you can use the 100% isopropyl alcohol...

    • @jstaffordii
      @jstaffordii Рік тому +1

      It doesn't take much ipa either. When I drove a semi the recommended dose was 16 ounces for 100 gallons and drain your water separator of water because ipa absorbs water that condenses in unfull cooling fuel tanks.

  • @brianwaldo2642
    @brianwaldo2642 Рік тому +2

    Diesel gelling in the cold up here in Canada is not really an issue. The fuel is pre mixed based on local needs. Our trucks and skid steer always start up, providing the batteries are ok.

  • @shellstud34
    @shellstud34 Рік тому +38

    Have to add the additive before filling up every tank or you will gel

    • @shellstud34
      @shellstud34 Рік тому +8

      Because once the gel hits ur filters your done

    • @austindavis4816
      @austindavis4816 Рік тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking, you know it was gonna be cold as balls in Colorado

    • @DJR5280
      @DJR5280 Рік тому

      It doesn't normally get this cold on the Front Range of Colorado. Good information for any potential future cold snap I suppose

    • @brandonsabin1471
      @brandonsabin1471 Рік тому

      And it's not fun to change fuel filters at -15. Trust me

  • @667Gurba
    @667Gurba Рік тому +33

    In Norway we have winter diesel in the winter. It used to be added kerosene but now it has some additives to avoid it freezing. No need to buy additives separately.

    • @okjd159
      @okjd159 Рік тому +1

      Never add kerosene, my dad had a John Deere Dealership and had a guy that add it to his tractor and destroyed his injector pump! Diesel fuel has some lubrication properties and kerosene removes that.

    • @667Gurba
      @667Gurba Рік тому

      @@okjd159 It was done for decades. Probably added something else too but the kerosene kept it from freezing. I know people having used kerosene + 2-stroke oil instead of diesel for years with no issues.

    • @okjd159
      @okjd159 Рік тому

      @@667Gurba As I said it destroyed a fuel pump, just warning. That is why the make additives for just this issue.

    • @okjd159
      @okjd159 Рік тому

      @@667Gurba John Deere refused his warranty because of that. Do you really want to risk that?

    • @667Gurba
      @667Gurba Рік тому

      @@okjd159 I didn't but it was common back in the day to save money. At least until the cops started testing the fuel and fining those who did.

  • @bertwilson4311
    @bertwilson4311 Рік тому +2

    I live with diesels in the sub-arctic. All the mods that people do in the tuner crowd (deleting fuel bowl heaters, removing exhaust back pressure valves, deleting thermostats, and deleting EGRs) are a good way to keep your engine running cold or not running at all. A lift pump mod, on the other hand is helpful. If the temperature where you live is 30 degrees colder than the average for your area, you will end up with fuel gelling issues. I can get away without anti-gel additives at -45F in my area, because our fuel is straight #1 diesel for at least 3 months of the year. If your area has #1 available, that is your best defense. If not, kerosene (up to 50%) works in primitive diesels like the old Cummins. Pull up a Mercedes diesel owners manual from the 1970s and they actually recommend kerosene up to 50% or gasoline up to 30% (!). Any time you are using #1 diesel in a modern high pressure fuel pump, add a lubricity supplement.

  • @JustinKingOffroad
    @JustinKingOffroad Рік тому +1

    Everyone says it doesn't get this cold on the front range, but I've logged -15 and -20 numerous times in the last 10 years. But it usually doesn't stay below zero all day.

  • @riley_swan
    @riley_swan Рік тому +19

    Hey that’s a sick truck! Keep the content coming

  • @EngineersHomestead
    @EngineersHomestead Рік тому +3

    As said by others, get a winter front / winter cover for the grill. I use FIA brand off Amazon for my 7.3 Superduty. It has snaps that mount to grill plastic and comes with quilted cover with flaps that can open when weather gets milder and a bug screen to swap out in summer. I was able to get my 7.3 to start at -9F when we had the cold snap here in Indiana without block heater but sounded like a few injectors may not have been firing. I only tried out of curiosity, didn't need to run it that day. 5W40 has helped another with my cold starts. I also run Power Service fuel treatment when I remember.

  • @bradwilliams4921
    @bradwilliams4921 Рік тому +1

    I hope it never gets that cold here in South Carolina but thank you for the lesson.

  • @JasonBoydston
    @JasonBoydston Рік тому +1

    I usually put a bottle of Power Service Winterizer/Antigel everytime I fill up in the winter. So far in the last 20 years I have had no problems with my Diesel trucks.

  • @J.Young808
    @J.Young808 Рік тому +4

    Like others have suggested start the truck while still plugged in and I would suggest getting a cover for the prongs since Denver uses Mag-chloride to de-ice the roads

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 Рік тому +2

    My brother had similar experiences in the cold. That's still a really cool truck and now you know how to be prepared. Great video man.

  • @ColJonSquall1
    @ColJonSquall1 Рік тому +2

    yeah, the common thing is to have the air powered fuel pump covered, and put a grill cover on, to help the engine warm up in super cold temps. Its why those with a similar aftermarket pump up here in Canada, mount it in the engine bay, to keep the fuel from doing that. Rich of DeBoss Garage shows it on his channel, between multiple trucks he owns, one of which is a 12v Cummins.

  • @HiLuckyB
    @HiLuckyB Рік тому +1

    I run some Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost in my 2.8 Duramax. Never had any problems with fuel in the cold here in Michigan.

  • @GhillieGames
    @GhillieGames Рік тому +1

    Mine fired up to feed cattle with no heater in that same storm. Just have treated fuel no issues.

  • @ras416
    @ras416 Рік тому +15

    The stock fuel filter/ water separator has a fuel heater in it.

    • @jason86768
      @jason86768 Рік тому

      Not in it, right beside it. And it's terrible! There's a full quart of fuel after the fuel heater that won't get heated. The heater often leaks air into the system, causing hard starting. Lots of people delete the fuel heater (and sometimes the whole strainer assembly).

  • @2KCamaroZ28SS
    @2KCamaroZ28SS Рік тому +15

    Very clean 2nd gen. But for me, diesel just isn't worth the headache anymore.

    • @wtbman
      @wtbman Рік тому +1

      After a boost leak leading to continuous DPF issues I'm about ready to walk away and never look back.

    • @cliffordmontana4562
      @cliffordmontana4562 Рік тому +1

      Diesels are TERRIBLE unless you tow heavy over long distances. Here in Michigan diesel is $2.00 more a gallon, and diesel trucks cost $10,000 more when new. I just don’t see the point. More maintenance, more finicky, heavier, louder, more expensive, etc. No thanks.

    • @67FORDTRUCKF250
      @67FORDTRUCKF250 Рік тому

      @@cliffordmontana4562 huh, you know what they say about opinions......

  • @BullettBill
    @BullettBill Рік тому +4

    I've always been told to pour a touch of the additive into the fuel filter near engine to help. Nice truck btw!

  • @cmcb7230
    @cmcb7230 Рік тому +2

    I’m glad you made a video about this. I remember a video a few weeks ago and Tommy mentioned you running into an issue coming into work when it was that cold.

    • @67FORDTRUCKF250
      @67FORDTRUCKF250 Рік тому

      Ditto, always a good reminder especially if you aren't used to driving a diesel in winter...

  • @robertphillips360
    @robertphillips360 Рік тому +6

    I recently bought my uncle's 1997 K1500 suburban with the 350. It was like -20F or so here and after two cranks, the small block roared to life. Things got over 213k miles and runs like a champ. Don't get me wrong, I love diesels but nothing like a small block. Great video!

  • @chuckasarus
    @chuckasarus Рік тому +2

    I found out the same way as you with the fuel gelling. After that happened I always kept the fuel additive handy and put it in every tank in the winter, it’s a cheap preventative 👍🏻

  • @yurishnirman3847
    @yurishnirman3847 Рік тому +1

    quick tip. In older diesels a typical thing to do was to add gasoline to diesel. Mercedes I believe said you can go as high as 50% mix. and from I understand 20% gasoline and 80% diesel is very typical.

  • @BG-vq9fd
    @BG-vq9fd Рік тому +2

    I enjoy your videos more than a lot of the regulars. I live in northern Indiana. Fuel additives is a hot topic for tractor owners. I use anti gel in my compact tractor. We recently had some below 0F days. No problems.

  • @kevinkeller6898
    @kevinkeller6898 Рік тому +1

    Short explanation:. All diesel fuel will get wax crystals in it as the temps drop. That happens at the "cloud point". The gelled fuel is actually clumps of paraffin wax that won't run through your filters and pumps.
    The additive you used is a dispersant, which helps keeps the tiny wax crystals from sticking together. It works quite well if thoroughly mixed with the fuel before it cools below the cloud point, usually about 20° F. It isn't designed to reliquify wax. Paraffin is what's in candles, and once it's solid it takes about 160° to melt it again!
    So, if it's going to get cold, treat your fuel a couple of days beforehand. Good luck, and that's a great old Mopar Cummins!

  • @jerroldwiebe1601
    @jerroldwiebe1601 Рік тому +3

    Put a winter front on it. It will make a huge difference. Even just a piece of cardboard in front of the rad to stop all the cold air from passing through the whole rad.
    A few weeks ago it was -40°c here (-40f is the same) people got around just fine.

  • @machfive916
    @machfive916 Рік тому +6

    Outstanding job turning an unfortunate situation in to a useful video!

    • @adamantee1
      @adamantee1 Рік тому

      Useful?? This was easily the worst video TFL has ever done. A legit truck channel that didn't put anti gel in a truck when it was -16. I don't need a video to tell me... IT WON'T RUN!!

    • @ryanm5626
      @ryanm5626 Рік тому

      @@adamantee1 I've never owned a diesel, so I thought it was interesting.

  • @I_Love_Quokkas
    @I_Love_Quokkas Рік тому +2

    Never got that cold anywhere I’ve lived but my old 3.0 ecodiesel would take a solid 20 minutes driving in traffic to warm up if it was below freezing. Kids HATED that as meant no cabin heat on way to daycare. Idling didn’t do anything. Had to be driving to get any heat built up.

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 Рік тому +1

    Nice job sharing your experience!

  • @wade7959
    @wade7959 Рік тому

    Love the vid, Kase! Informative and well delivered.

  • @keithkuckler2551
    @keithkuckler2551 Рік тому +1

    I had a John Deere diesel tractor, John Deere put the sediment bowl and fuel line right behind the radiator. When it was really cold here in Minnesota, the fuel would gel because the radiator was blowing cold air on the fuel filter. We always ran a diesle blend that was lighter in the winter time. We did not use additives.

  • @bryonsusedautos
    @bryonsusedautos Рік тому +2

    You are supposed to add it before it gets cold.
    Also that truck doesn't need a fass system!
    Also put cardboard in front of the rad that will help it heat up!

    • @Constabruity
      @Constabruity Рік тому

      It's no 24v, but a lift pump is certainly a good idea.

    • @bryonsusedautos
      @bryonsusedautos Рік тому

      @@Constabruity its not needed on a 12v!

  • @CrimeVid
    @CrimeVid Рік тому +2

    The old truckers used to dose their diesel with petrol,about 20: 1 if I remember rightly.

  • @trcass1
    @trcass1 Рік тому

    i had a 2000 2500 Cummins that i had in upstate NY while hunting in early December. we had a cold snap and it got down to about 10 below. i was leaving for MD and filled up the night before but the station hadn't switched to its winter blend yet. the truck started fine but once i got to 20-25 mph and the demand was greater it would bog down. i immediately stopped at a convenience/gas station and got some additive. rocked it back and forth for about 15 minutes to mix it up. made it the next 400 miles no problem. great looking truck by the way, sure do miss mine with the 6 speed.

  • @coreyrein4232
    @coreyrein4232 Рік тому +2

    What no cold weather diesel in that part of the country? My Cummins has never had problems in the cold with fuel jelling. -30 to -40c for 5months in a row. Frozen and crushed DEF pumps That's another story.

  • @Pesmog
    @Pesmog Рік тому +1

    After you have added the anti-gel, it is recommended to immediately add a few gallons of fresh diesel on top to promote the anti-gel blending with the diesel. The fresh diesel from a gas station would also be warmer. Relying on the fuel return from the tank or vehicle movement to encourage the anti-gel to mix is just asking for problems.

  • @MarksKicksOnRoute66
    @MarksKicksOnRoute66 Рік тому +2

    Kase keep the entertainment coming brother! Really an young star in the automotive world!

  • @briankelley616
    @briankelley616 Рік тому +2

    Cool truck, cool video, and it seems to me as long as you have a camera you're at work. Looking forward to more videos with this truck. 😁

  • @bobscott9253
    @bobscott9253 Рік тому +11

    Can always just throw something in front of the radiator to block air. That will help it warm up to operating temp and you get the benefit of a warmer cab.

  • @purpleduckhemp
    @purpleduckhemp Рік тому +1

    I just drove my 1986 f150 with a i300 for 32 hours straight through the last blizzard we had. -25f. Highways shut down and all. 2 wheel drive truck with no abs or traction control. And the i300 never was shut off once the whole time

  • @louisschummer931
    @louisschummer931 Рік тому

    All diesel up here in Canada and any diesel we ship South to the US is winter blend after about November. Easy to tell as you fuel economy also drops. Never had any fuel gel issues down to -35C/-31F but do put the block heater on after -10C and never drive the truck till coolant and oil hit at least 100F/37C - installed a high idle switch to help get it there and prevent wet stacking while idling. Also run 10w-30 or 5w-40 depending on how cold it gets as 15w-40 is like molasses at the extreme low end.

  • @mikeburnett160
    @mikeburnett160 Рік тому +1

    Some Power Service white jug anti-gal additive in every tank during the winter will have you running just fine regardless of temp. Dont wait until extreme cold to use it - thats too late.

  • @poppyneese1811
    @poppyneese1811 Рік тому

    The best Roman I’m going be late for work this morning video/proof ever! I know every body was rooting for the old Cummins Dodge!!! Hopefully management was cool and they got great content out of it.

  • @kcp7042
    @kcp7042 Рік тому +4

    Most fuel additives say to pour it in then fill up the tank. Should you have topped off your tank after adding the antigel? Get the new fuel to mix things up?

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu Рік тому +1

    Kase, hindsight is worth gold..if one could turn back time and use it as a predictive measuring tool. lol As it was stated, this cold snap has not happened in over 20+ years there. The fact you had a block heater and were able to get it started and putting down the road under 25MPH puts you ahead of a lot of people. You may not be in this situation again in your lifetime. And since you are in a job that is not (no offense) emergency critical, you being late and or having to call someone to come get you was not the end of the world by any means. And you can take preventative measures for your future if you think this might be an issue again. Life is a lesson every day. And you are 1 of those people that will take every lesson and use it to your advantage for the next time. And so what if your co-workers were making videos and mocking you slightly on camera for not being there when they were making those videos...lol This update was interesting since they mentioned you were having issues that day. Glad you were safe and only mildly inconvenienced.

  • @markbachman8321
    @markbachman8321 Рік тому +1

    1. Quality of Fuel. 2. Additive in winter should be a standard prep. 3. Cover the radiator. 4. It might be time to change the thermostat. if it it running it should get up to temp.

  • @rocklow243
    @rocklow243 Рік тому +1

    There is fuel return lines and then the lift pump should also return fuel above the filler neck hence cycling the fuel with the additive around. So in turn should have got moving enough to drive after idling for some time. But none the less, buy XDP fuel additive. Best you can buy. I highly recommend.

  • @dirtyarm1668
    @dirtyarm1668 Рік тому

    I have exact same truck. Bone stock for 11 years now. I run additive year round. I've only had a no start after sitting 8 hour's in -30. I've never covered the radiator.

  • @tmlatl
    @tmlatl Рік тому +3

    The "fast acting" additive you mention is actually a different product than the anti-gel you used. Anti-gel has to be added BEFORE the fuel gels, as you discovered. The recovery product nobody had in stock, for example Power Service 911, will dissolve gel that's already formed. Keep a bottle of 911 under your seat if you aren't going to treat the fuel when you fill up. I use Hot Shot's Secret additives in my semis and pickup, although the pickup stays in the southeast where it's not usually needed. Even though I treat with anti gel anytime the temp drops below +20º (I get most fuel in the south which is untreated), I keep 3 bottles of 911 and a set of fuel filters in the big trucks just in case.

  • @markryl-kuchar2373
    @markryl-kuchar2373 Рік тому

    When the diesel i had somewhat gelled up at like -6 degrees Fahrenheit, I was glad the vehicle had it’s winter front on, it had already been high idling for a half hour, and it finally acted normal once the coolant temperature came all the way up

  • @ctarrayo1384
    @ctarrayo1384 Рік тому

    Glad to see more 12 valve content, been waitinh!

  • @AKJeeper
    @AKJeeper Рік тому +1

    I figured the fuel stations would start incorporating winter blend diesel at the pumps this time of the year. Or maybe that's just a thing they do specifically here in Alaska?

  • @garrygraham7901
    @garrygraham7901 Рік тому +1

    Kerosene (5 litres per 100 litres) or heating oil (25 litres per 100 litres) can be added to lower the cloud point of the diesel fuel.
    Although, the extremely low temps you are experiencing may still not be enough to prevent the fuel forming a gel.

  • @stevenguimond537
    @stevenguimond537 Рік тому +1

    Kerosene will help mixing it with your diesel. The other thing you need to change your filter when you jell. In emergency ethanol will work

  • @jeffschimke3297
    @jeffschimke3297 Рік тому +2

    I live in Illinois always put diesel anti jel and conditioner in fuel tank all year never had a problem worked on 3 diesel trucks. Helps get rid of moisture

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 Рік тому +1

      Chicagoan here and in the 10 years of owning my VW Jetta TDI I too used diesel fuel conditioner year-round (doesn't take much at all in the proper ratio), not only for anti-gel properties but also for lubricity purposes. About 2005 or so diesel fuel became ultra-low sulphur by law and that cut waaayyyyy down on the lubricity of the fuel. A little splash of Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement from the white container (Power Service Anti-Gel 9-1-1 was in the red container, I recall) and I never had a fuel system problem in almost 200K miles of ownership. Ounce of prevention.....

  • @bosleepsaround
    @bosleepsaround Рік тому +2

    Was thinking of getting those aftermarket fuel systems, no longer thinking of getting one. Video was helpful👍🏻

    • @BlueDually4x4
      @BlueDually4x4 Рік тому +2

      This has nothing to do with the lift pump and everything to do with improper fuel. I've had an aftermarket lift pump since 2007 or 08 and the only time I had a fuel issue was due to the fuel not being winterized. I have no fuel heaters and lived in Wyoming, zero complaints about the pump I am running.

  • @smudgeone
    @smudgeone Рік тому

    My dad's 96 Cummins had to deal a lot with cold weather in Saskatchewan (down to -40). Diesel in the prairies would have "winter fuel" options right from the local supplier so gelling didn't happen if you actually got winter fuel in it. The thing never had good heat though. That truck was always a cold ride to town even when garage kept. When it gets really cold you can't start them without a block heater.

  • @cheistopherback5002
    @cheistopherback5002 Рік тому +2

    Ok this is prime example of why you use anti gel before you get into cold weather and won't have issues

  • @pistolcutler4874
    @pistolcutler4874 Рік тому +1

    You should have known that the diesel would gel up I don't live were it gets that cold. Before I left to go to Montana I put the anti gel in added a block heater and a battery charger so when I hook up the block heater in the battery charger would come on also I didn't have an issue at all.

  • @EuroYardService
    @EuroYardService Рік тому +1

    Surprised the gas stations don’t switch to winter diesel automatically in Colorado.

  • @samjohnson9894
    @samjohnson9894 Рік тому

    Great video!
    A real world scenario captured and produced to accurately convey the real world experience punctuated with information, drama, and results.
    Very entertaining. 👍

  • @jameshowey9958
    @jameshowey9958 Рік тому

    When was the last time you fueled up? Colorado adds a blend to the fuel after October 1st if I remember correctly. As a owner operator truck driver I always run extra additives in the winter especially if I go south since the fuel might not be treated as needed for colder climates, it just cheap insurance and with an older truck like you have the additives help keep the pump and injectors lubed since this new fuel is so much “drier” with less additives. Great video.

  • @HaroldCombs
    @HaroldCombs Рік тому

    Blizzard of 93 I was out on a tractor plowing our tertiary road. I’d plugged the tractor in so it started but I forgot about the diesel jelling so it just died.
    Long walk back to the house.

  • @thomasbenefield3527
    @thomasbenefield3527 Рік тому

    It got to -1F in Georgia a couple of weeks ago. My 21 Tundra fired right up!

  • @slaphands7703
    @slaphands7703 Рік тому +1

    Most guys in northern Canada install a high idle switch for the cold days. Let’s the engine come up to temperature.

  • @jza80king
    @jza80king Рік тому +2

    Good old Cummins grid heaters lol

  • @henrycolie1220
    @henrycolie1220 Рік тому

    I’ve added power service to my 7.3 excursion since I jelled a couple of times when it was new back in ‘2000. 531,000 miles now and it started, unplugged & outside at -17f …

  • @1guyin10
    @1guyin10 Рік тому

    I run the same product in my semi. It really doesn't take that much to treat a tank if you put it in as you fuel. I always keep it on hand in case I have to head into cold weather.

  • @mclroy
    @mclroy Рік тому

    Yes in Quebec where we used to have this kind of cold , except for this winter, buddies who got diesel engine puts some screen in front of the grille to prevent cold air entering. By th way it seems that the climate is inverse for this year. It is not so cold here like 23°F and you got the cold that we usully have. 😀

  • @smokeymotorsport
    @smokeymotorsport Рік тому +1

    Nice video, always interesting to see these marginal situations where "weird things" happen that not all of us see, at least not often. I enjoy the ad hoc videos like this, they feel nice and real, although I can't believe Case didn't have a better phone/camera mount in the truck ;-) I was surprised by the coolant temperature though - I assume you run a thermostat, so I'm surprised it wasn't a little warmer than 140. I guess diesels do tend to run cooler, and there's a lot more loss in the air flow, but even so I'd think the block would stay warmer than that

  • @pizzasteakphocheeseburgeri2965

    what a gorgeous truck. I really wish I was smarter in the past to buy one of these rigs before SHTF covid inflation prices....

  • @grantthomas5501
    @grantthomas5501 Рік тому

    I’m northern az we have winter diesel at most stations. It was -6 last week and my truck started and ran no problems. Well my heater didn’t make heat till about 50 miles down the road

  • @Albertacountrykid
    @Albertacountrykid Рік тому +1

    Up here in northern Alberta Canada where I live there is winter diesel that doesn’t gel and it a good thing to because we already hit -45*C -49*f -52C with the wind this year and our record temp was -59*C -74*F without wind chill and the air dog is fine with the winter diesel I know a guy with a stock air dog no lift pump heater and has no problems and -65*F

  • @codycopeland7527
    @codycopeland7527 Рік тому +1

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't the stock setups have a built in fuel heater and a tank return line? So in a situation like this where you can at least get it to stay idling it will slowly warm the fuel in the tank up by returning warmed fuel to the tank. I'm not sure if the heater for the aftermarket pump works the same way but I'd assume it does. Sweet video and awesome truck, keep up the good work!!

  • @kensnyder2340
    @kensnyder2340 Рік тому

    Put some ATF Dexron in a fresh filter and off you go. I used to do it every filter change when I had a diesel. I used to service a lot of diesel equipment and it works great. The engine will fire off quick and have sort of a sweet smell. ATF also cleans injector pintles. Most over the road truckers I ran into carried a spare fuel filter and a bottle of ATF, in case the fuel gelled.

  • @ricatiman
    @ricatiman Рік тому

    Tip from Winnipeg man for your jelled condition - once you put the gel treatment in, and if you can drive a bit, go a mile or two while swerving side to side - it mixes your jelled fuel with the additive and breaks down the jell pretty quick.

  • @jonnyg6001
    @jonnyg6001 Рік тому

    Tip: Change your fuel filters twice a year. Summer filter and winter filter. Once u change to the winter filter, fill that filter with a mix of diesel and winter diesel supplement. Now for the entire winter add the diesel supplement at every fill up and run it until you switch to the "summer" filter. Also always carry some 911 behind the seat for JIC purposes. Good luck for the rest of this winter! P.S. Project Farm does a review on winter fuel additives, should go check it out!!

  • @jean-sebastienlatouche3678
    @jean-sebastienlatouche3678 Рік тому

    My stock 2021 GMC 3500 AT4 Duramax gelled up and left me stranded at home the morning I needed to drive my daughter back to college from winter break a year ago. Nothing was modified on that rig and supposedly the fuel at the pump was winter fuel. Did not need a diesel anymore since I had sold my camper earlier and traded it in for a gas truck. No more gelling issues.

  • @dieseldrax
    @dieseldrax Рік тому

    Back when I had a '97 12-valve Cummins I'd slip a piece of cardboard between the rad and intercooler to help bring the coolant temp up. The problem is that diesels are so energy efficient with fuel and those cast iron blocks and heads have so much metal it is basically impossible to overcome ambient temps unless you are putting a good load on the engine by towing/hauling. Just driving around with little to no load in the cold won't allow the engine to reach normal temp. Cardboard worked a treat.
    Also, as has already been mentioned, carrying and using an anti-gel additive as well as some Diesel 911 will go a long way to avoiding these issues, even if they're rare. Diesel Kleen in the white bottle is an excellent choice to add to every tank in the winter.

  • @donleamon8653
    @donleamon8653 Рік тому

    I've got an AirDog system sitting in my shop getting ready to go in my RV to hopefully prevent a Cummins CAPS pump failure.

  • @5280dmax
    @5280dmax Рік тому

    Same thing happened to me that morning. Took me an hour to make it 2 miles back home once mine started dying from the fuel gelling.

  • @chad2886
    @chad2886 Рік тому

    On the farm we'd mix #1 diesel (kerosene) with the #2 in the tank to lower the gel temperature. The #1 doesn't lubricant as well as #2 though.

  • @ericl5973
    @ericl5973 Рік тому

    One of the reasons to carry an extra fuel filter. When the fuel gels, you can swap the filter and put some additive into the tank.

  • @garretlewis4103
    @garretlewis4103 Рік тому

    When I had my TDI Jetta. I used Power Service in the white bottle. You need to be proactive with it. Not reactive. I used it at every fill up in the winter.

  • @bigmountain7561
    @bigmountain7561 Рік тому

    Since my primary wrecker was a 3500 series the same year I always started it after I unplugged it and let it idle while I took my shower and ate breakfast when I came out the engine temperature was normal. Not below 140 and I also always had anti gel. Since you changed the fuel system that’s why it won’t run. Always plan ahead, either your a Mechanic or a Mochanic!!!

  • @cliffh8486
    @cliffh8486 Рік тому +1

    This video should be labeled, how I stranded myself in a perfect truck.

  • @dogleg6669
    @dogleg6669 Рік тому +4

    They must hate y'all in Colorado. Here in Utah all the fuel stations add a -20 deg anti gel right into the fuel every winter. It hits -10 or below every year where my homestead is and my 99 ram is fine with just the block heater.

  • @Budweiser-jh9uj
    @Budweiser-jh9uj Рік тому

    Wire a heating pad to the tank and plug it in for a while lol. It won't hurt or catch fire or blow up I used to do it to my 99 7.3 power stroke. I had two lil heating pads ziptide to it.

  • @todddunn945
    @todddunn945 Рік тому +4

    They switch over to winter blend diesel here in Maine. By the way, -16F is not cold. I say that based on my experience living in Fairbanks, Edmonton, and southeast Manitoba. I moved to Maine to get away from cold winters.

    • @TaigaTurf
      @TaigaTurf Рік тому +2

      Where in Maine?
      It easily hits 40 below in Aroostook

    • @todddunn945
      @todddunn945 Рік тому +1

      ​@@TaigaTurf MDI. I have been to the county many times in the winter since my mother in law lived in Presque Isle.

    • @TaigaTurf
      @TaigaTurf Рік тому +1

      @@todddunn945 warmest place in the county..
      Fort Kent, Allagash, Grand Isle and Escourt areas average about 10 degrees colder..
      Manitoba is seriously cold though

    • @todddunn945
      @todddunn945 Рік тому +1

      @@TaigaTurf Ayup, 30 miles up the highway 1 makes a big difference. When I lived in Manitoba we sometimes went to Minneapolis to get away from the winter cold. Back when I lived in Fairbanks it went below -60F. That is cold.

    • @lmCIoudz
      @lmCIoudz Рік тому +1

      -16F not cold lol don't be dumb

  • @dwainsellers6453
    @dwainsellers6453 Рік тому

    Love my 99 Dodge Ram 2500 four-wheel-drive 24-valve Cummins turbo diesel truck that I had built for me in 1999 340000 miles and she keeps on Truckin

  • @slocavky
    @slocavky Рік тому

    In the winter time, keep a bottle of Power Service anti gel in the white bottle and a bottle of the Power Service 911 in the red. Stuff works great.

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 Рік тому +1

      Yes! White bottle proactively, red bottle in emergency. I used the white bottle for 10 years, never a problem.