It's the COLDEST Day Of the Year in Colorado: Will My Ram Cummins Diesel Start?
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#cummins #coldstart #diesel - Авто та транспорт
Everybody knows you’re supposed to rev that engine into the red zone as soon as it starts while the guy outside sprays starting fluid and brake cleaner directly down its throat hole.
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🤣🤣 I use a blow torch to de gel the diesel in the gas tank and warm up the engine.
@@seymorefact4333 they sell anti gel for it 😆
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As a wise man from northern Alberta teached me, hitting rev limiter on a solid freeze engine is the quickest way to warm it up
In case no one has mentioned, the rapid clicking or buzzing heard for a few moments after the start was the oil filter by-pass opening and closing. Once the cold thickened oil overcomes the filter media resistance the noise stops.
You are correct. Even ISX 15 Cummins does that in bone cold temps.
Wow that's interesting, I thought it was only there as a redundancy in case of excessively thick sludgy oil.
@@aslkdfjhg excessively sludgy oil? ROFL
That's really good to know. Thank you.
Why did you turn on the exhaust brake?
This is the perfect weather for Tommy to review the cold weather capabilities of one of your electric vehicles.
@Andrew they already did multiple videos of the hummer in the cold starting up and driving. It did just fine.
@Andrew and diesels struggle the same way in that regard, as he said in the video. Old diesels and cold weather do not match, the only viable option for extreme cold is gas right now.
My Mach E had a 90 mile range fully charged in 30 degree weather!!
@@futurevikingtony11 ouch. That’s got to be the worst range reduction that I’ve heard of so far.
@@loganhyler9588 A complete fallacy. Diesels don’t struggle any more than anything else does when it’s super cold. -30 last week and I just then had my first gel up and I’ve been driving nothing but my two Cummins trucks since 2002.
You do not have to select high idle or turn on the exhaust brake, the truck will do everything itself.
At 170°F the exhaust brake will come off and at 180°F the idle will go to normal unless of course you hit the brake first.
Exacly you could see the rpms come up without him doing anything
@@rollingacresfarmstead206 Yes!
I usually leave mine plugged in and if the engine is not stone cold it will idle at low RPM for a minute then step up.... If its stupid cold it will fire up then go to fast idle almost immediately, grid heater will be on steady for a bit as well
My exhaust brake only activates with the button. My high idle is automatic. 17 2500 Laramie.
@clpadel8692 that's weird. My 2016 does it.
Andre barely phased, ice water runs through his veins!
Where -3 in Tennessee this morning! Brrr! Got wood stove going watching tfl!
We’ve been -40 to -60 here in Interior Alaska for the past 5 days. That is ambient temps, not windchill. Windchill is irrelevant to vehicles it only applies to people. I would love to be at -3F but I realize its all relative , if you’re use to 30-50F above then -3F is a shock to the system. Cheers from North Pole, Alaska! 🎅🏻🎄☃️🇺🇸
How does your vehicle run ? If you have one
Grew up in northpole on newby rd, In wasilla now, best place to grow up! Miss it, rippen the 200x or the bravo to moose creek.
@@lj2757 120 volt ac block heater and oil pan heater has to be turned on at least 2-3 hrs before you even try to start it
Mid -30’s here in northern Saskatchewan the past few weeks
@@landon6327 stoke the wood stove eh.
The real question this morning is “What’s the range of your Hummer?”
This. They'll probably hide it until its 50F again.
20 milies take it or leave it
Better than an EV
It’s amazing how quick that thing actually warmed up my old 7.3 wouldn’t even think about heat until a good 10-15 minutes down the road
Yep, we had to beat the snot out of ours to get any heat.
You didn't use a grill cover I take it?
You should head up to Alberta Canada right now. My sister sent me a snapshot of their weather yesterday, and it was -41 Celsius without the wind chill , that's -41.8 Fahrenheit. Try a cold start in that!
That’s what block heaters are for
Also these guys don’t even have the winter cover on…
@@MattSmith-vl8zp From Edmonton, Alberta. Yesterday I zipped my coat up, felt like an admission of failure.
... am in Alberta. My area had -44C (-47F) with -55C (-67F) wind chill. So I kinda laughed when they showed the -3 Thermometer, LOL.
Many of us start our trucks in that weather without using our block heaters. For my Tundra in this weather I run a 900CCA battery with 0W30 synthetic oil. Diesel engines need a little more love than gas, but if you run a 5w40 synthetic in your diesel with amazing battery power, you can still start fine.
Plugging in the block heater is best, if you have that option.
Dear Genius, the windchill is a made up mathematical number and does not affect the ambient temperature. If its -20 with -100 windchill....its still only -20 and nothing can get colder then that. Thanks.
I live in northern Finland
Hand cranked my Lada in -47c weather
And it started with no problem and worked with no problem
I live in Saskatchewan at -47 c and my chrysler starts no problem
@@Welcometofacsistube Wow pretty good especially it being a chrysler, not a premium vehicle like a lada.
@@garys2157 did your bicycle start? Or did your mom drive you today?
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@Hal 1000 I wasn't the one with the childish brag about their vehicle, anyways it would be silly to leave my battery in my electric bike if I am not using it at winter, and no problem starting my 2022 Lariat F150.
You probably missed the original joke to about it being a Lada.
I’m in CO. @8000ft. My 17 Ram always starts, but when it’s really cold I cycle the intake heater twice. Much happier starting!!
having all these gauges and numbers are great but it leads to a lot of anxiety. Old trucks some years ago went through cold climates too but nobody knew about the "real" temp numbers of transmission fluids etc. And they still worked.
I assume your very old lol. Overheating is usually the culprit of when things break so being able to monitor many temps at once is useful and necessary
I worked in Newport VT many years ago. I had my 2000 Ford 7.3 diesel. It was -24F all day long. She started up rough but started. Treating the diesel fuel for those temps is vital. The T444 IH was designed as a cold weather medium duty engine. Miss her.
The CO temperature is making me appreciate FL right now.
FL summer makes you appreciate CO summer btw
It’s -15 in northern Minnesota right now that should make you appreciate FL even more
@working_country ___ 66 today in phx...low 70's next few. Even Flag
is in 50's but they suppose to be colder
Started my BMW 220d Grand tourer in -11F with no problem last week, in Sweden..
It warmed up here to -8 and it was pretty nice. When it gets cold outside you can always look forward to warmer temperatures like this.
I might be mistaken but the truck goes into high idle when started in cold weather. My 21 Cummins takes about a minute or so after it starts to automatically go into high idle. Not sure it’s a good idea to force it into high idle right after you start it when it’s that cold out but man, it’s really cold out there. In NJ it’s 50deg going down to about 20 by 5pm.
I agree. My 2019 goes into high idle mode with the exhaust brake engaged automatically after a few minutes. I think it's allowing some time to get the oil warmed ever so slightly before it revs up.
Sounds balmy! -37 here in SW MT. -51 with Windchill
Also in NJ, we’ll be out salting roads later this afternoon. Tomorrow morning our temps will be around the temps in this video
@@caseypries7559 my old 2004 Ram Cummins goes into high idle as well when it cold. It also surges the idle for a few minutes then levels out the idle. It only does that it cold weather. Around the freezing mark and below. It starts pretty good in cold weather.
@@vincentlombardo8991 here in Indiana it's -9F right now with wind chill around -35F so it's just lovely out. Great day to stay in the house.
You guys don't know what cool is I live in northern BC I didn't plug my truck in it it started at -38 my 59 it took two tries it started
And this video was filmed at like -22
And they thought it was super cold 🤣🤣
I'm in saskatoon and it's-47c right now. -22c is t shirt weather
Cummins has done a great job on the grid heater on the intake. They work really well up here in Canada at temps cooler than that all winter long
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Yep .. just watch out for the nut falling off of the grid heater inside the engine. Many videos out there of catastrophic engine failure because of the dumb grid heater nut falling off. I just blew a bunch of cash on a Banks intake and replacement grid heater as insurance to never have that happen to me. Merry Christmas!
Where I am in Canada right now we've had like like 3 or 4 straight days of -25*Celsius, which is like -13* Fahrenheit. It's so cold in British Columbia that even the rainforests on the coast have dry powder snow right now.
Alberta yesterday morning: -37C = -35F Nice and toasty today at -25C = -13F
@@alflyer9406 I’m right here with ya bud, warm days are ahead! Lol
Canada who?
@@JeepCherokeeful it's now chinada
@@freeaudiobooks7469 we prefer Canadistan.
Andre I wish you guys would include how well the heated seats and steering wheel work in some of these videos. I think people would enjoy seeing small things like that.
I have a 2021 3500 longhorn limited and I can tell you the seats/ steering wheel gets hot pretty quick. It was 14 degrees Fahrenheit last night and within ten minutes of driving, I shut seat/ steering wheel heaters off. They almost get too hot.
2021 Laramie 2500 Cummins. The heated seats and wheel work really well. The wheel gets hot quickly and I usually don’t leave it on very long. The heated seats get toasty quickly too. I find that once I’m warm I usually switch them to low or they get too hot.
Started my 22 ram today, -16 ambient-57 wind chill. Started no problem
It was -5 degrees F this morning in Louisville, KY...coldest it's been in about 25 years. I've got a 2000 4Runner and once I got the frozen door pried open, it started right up. I let it fully warm up before moving, and the steering was stiff, and the automatic transmission held 2nd gear for a long time before shifting, but it was drama free. The windows are still frozen shut, (it rained all day yesterday before turning into snow). There is a layer of ice on the roads with packed snow on top of it. I have Falken Wildpeak AT3w's and they were excellent...really didn't need 4wd, but shifted into it for going up hills. Stay warm!
From Canada this video made me laugh. Every car makes funny noises in winter but once its 10-15 years old ,Then you find out real quality.
Funny you say that...Ive always thought that too. The cold points out short- comings of ones vehicle.
Funny most cars now can’t make it 8 years… it’s sad they fall apart at the seams especially in the extremes
Absolutely true. The blower motor on my Jeep used to squeal like crazy at -40. Blew out a set of Monroe shock absorbers on my old Dakota hitting a frost heave at -45. Radial tires would start developing flat spots in them at those temps. I chalk it all up to the fun of living in Interior Alaska in the winter. :)
I've had my 21 ram since March. This is the first really cold day I've started it -2 f. I was surprised how easily it did start not being plugged in. Mine went straight to high idle when in started.
I'm in North Dakota right now... -26f.. Everyone has a plug in hybrid here... They all have block heaters...lol
That was a real good start. on my 2000 Ram 2500, i had a engine heater i would plug in when it was cold. one year i was upstate NY and temp hit about zero and it started fine. however, as i went down the road, performance got sluggish and wouldn't go above 30. The fuel had jelled and hadn't been treated at the station i got it from. i had to stop and get some diesel thinner/heat and put in the tank. after a little while were going down the road ok. during this cold snap, it got down to 2 degrees and my 2022 1500 Echo-diesel started fine, no issues.
I start my truck on -40 not being plugged all the time during winter lol
The active grill shutters really help the warmup on these new diesels .
I owned a 99 and 03 Cummins Dodge 5.9
Both started without a block heater at -19 below zero with no problems what so ever. They ran flawlessly! The power steering did whine for about 10 miles on the 99. The heater output took a while to get warm though. When I did use the block heater it gave me instant heat.
I cold started my 05 PowerSmoke this AM, but I was a balmy +4. Took her a few seconds of rolling over before she sputtered to life. I came back outside after about 20 mins with the high idle set and she was toasty!
-8 that's cute, -44 this morning in Northern Canada, without a wind.
Merry Christmas TFL!
Turns on truck.
.5 seconds later: “wow, this is a pretty long warm up cycle”
Here in Wisconsin it's around -10 Fahrenheit with close to -30-35 wind chill today. My 19 Cummins is sitting outside at work all day. We shall see how it fires up tonight when I leave.
Just got a 22 I am amazed at how fast the cummins warms up now vs my 2016. With in 5 mins of idling and coolant was over 90 degrees in negative temps and holds it well. Fully warmed up with in minutes of driving. My 2016 wouldn't be fully warmed till the a bit of freeway driving. It warms up faster than my 2016 civic!
Just came from minus 38 in Yellowstone with wind chill at minus 45 and 8 inches of fresh snow. Hemi started without issue.
Where I'm sitting in MN it's -11.....without the windchill.....and was below zero pretty much all day yesterday for the high....had to start a Chevy Volt and a Honda Odyssey and didn't have any issues.
I also now have a 2500 Cummins 2021. And mine started well too here in the Denver metro area, but the heat cycle was only like 20 seconds at most! Interesting to see yours was longer!
Grid heater bolt drops in ur engine and it blows.
Mopar junk.
Need banks bypass and def delete cause that freezes too.
Airbox gets full of snow.
Pure utter garbage.
Never mopar again
@@freeaudiobooks7469 can't delete in my county otherwise I would. I test drove Cummins prototypes. They are far from junk.
its a chrysler it won't last anyway
@@waynehicks317 Deleting actually is terrible for the driver's health. Studies show that exhaust emissions are worse inside the cabin than outside directly behind the tailpipe, which is pretty hard to believe at first but it is actually a very repeatable finding. The backseat is typically worse off. Suffice to see, unless you think smoking is a good idea, you should really refrain from deleting the emissions equipment.
@@unconventionalideas5683 I mean with my current local laws, I can't anyways. But is that because some people who delete also want to roll coal? Because my truck would definitely be tuned to where it would not be.
Moved from WY to AZ last year don't miss that at all. Miss my deer antelope and elk but not the wind or the freeze.
Scotland last week was -18'.My 12 month old Defender d300 started 1st time and i didn't rev the arse out of a cold engine!!!!
I live in Georgia about an hour from ATL. Good video got me to thinking about a couple of things.
I started a 2021 Ram 6.7 cummins in Virginia MN during a cold front. The truck was unplugged overnight, with temperature at -30F. Fired right up.
Such a beautiful truck
Whoever mixed the audio is a genius.
I had a 95 Toyota pickup in N MN about 15yrs ago and the actual temp was -37 and she fired up but holy crap trying to row through the gears was extremely hard. Was like the gear shift was going through wet sand
wow this would be a great day to see how well the propane fire place heat up the camper, i am thinking about putting that model of heater in my cargo trailer conversion.
My 6.0 Powerstroke started well in the cold today. It got to -8 here as well. It is not happy driving for a while unless it either was plugged in or is given a little while to warm up.
I have a 2017 GMC diesel. I plugged in the block heater last night for the first time. I'm in Texas. 12 degrees this morning. I interested in the cold start this morning.
Would really like to see some Hummer EV testing in this cold weather (as others have indicated). Especially, leaving it outside over night without it plugged in.
And go straight to towing. What do you want to bet....40 miles on a full charge? 25?
@@drockjr that means it works as planned.
Hush! Dont asks important questions like that!
I've started mine in -40c. It started just fine. It was the heater fan and the power steering pump that made noise
I live in Vermont and we deal with the same type of weather normally.
I had a 2006 Duramax 2500, never had a problem with cold starts, never used the grill cover, but I did use an anti-gel additive once temperatures dropped under 20' and yes, the fuel filter change would be a good idea. I changed mine every 15- 20,000 miles. Or once a year. Now I average 30,000 miles a year.
Was 7 when I started mine up yesterday and ran perfect started immediately
Ah so many pleasant memories.
One morning back in the 80's I was too late to wait for multiple busses so I jumped in my old Buick on a morning like this, fired it up, scraped the windshield as best I could inside and out, ploughed through frozen piled up snow with that GM posi,
made it to the undeground parking lot at work and grabbed the elevator to the office in time.
One hitch though.
The car had busted hoses and absolutely no water when I fired it up.
I took a chance and let me tell you that old 455 was toasty by the time I shut it off.
Winter trips at 7 am to work at bone cracking temperatures are par for the course in Ontario and some of my fondest memories.
Not!
That's awesome!
Gotta love when it sounds like a fan is impacting something on a cold day.
You do not need to select high idle when it is cold. It will do it for you. It is also recommended by your manual to turn the exhaust brake on for warm up.
It’s 11 degrees Fahrenheit in Dallas, my 2006 F-250 took a bit longer of cranking, but it started ok
My Tundra started up with a little effort up in NW Montana yesterday when it was -30 I keep my truck outside year round with no block heater, only issue was the whine of the steering pump and the heaviness of the steering wheel.
3 degrees in Tenn this am. My snow covered Xterra pro 4x cranked like a champ! ✊
I brought a 2001 Florida MDX on a trip to Canada back in 2004 and it experienced -40C/F cold start. I drove 200 miles that day and it never warmed up... The only thing that kept me warm was the seat warmers. That was the last time I drove my vehicles to Canada in winter.
Although I live in New Orleans and will likely never experience temperatures as low as this, this was a very informative and entertaining video.
Started my 2020 6.7 H.O. this morning here in northern NH(-13). Didn't plug it in and it fired right up. But just remember the Cummins will automatically go into high-idle in these conditions.
Also remember the computer remembers the last engine cycle and of you haven't driven the Ram in a while, the pre-start cycle will be longer.
-37C here in Saskatchewan Canada(-31F) my truck is sitting plugged in at work for a few days… will be interesting to see how it starts… 2022 Ram 1500 Rebel with the Hemi
I'm in saskatoon. -47c with the wind chill
@@Welcometofacsistube windchill didnt affect equipment but just living creatures btw
@@Tonyx.yt. another one who know nothing about the cold.
Windchill does affect equipment. Big time.
@@Welcometofacsistube It does as far as equipment is warm, that's right.
But once the object reach the ambient temperature, there's no heat to lose quickly due to windchill.
Wind increase heat loss, that's for sure, but you cant lose heat if there's no heat to lose anymore.
Lol. That’s a nice winter day in our part of Canada. Try -42 degrees or minus >-50 with wind.
Started my hemi in -13 last night! Went down to -22 the night before
Come up to Saskatchewan. -8 F is not that bad. It has been in the -30's here all week.
How cute, in high school I had to plug in the block heater 30 minutes before I had to leave for school then go sit in my Scout for 2-3 minutes holding down the glow plug button to even give it a fighting chance of starting in the winter. Once it finally did bark off I had to hold the gas pedal down for another minute or so since the high idle didn't work until it could stay running on it's own while I made a huge cloud of diesel smoke for the neighbors to enjoy. Those old Nissan SD-33T mechanical diesels are a different breed.
I started my Cummins at -20 before.
Used the block heater to increase longevity
When Andre was taking after start it was very hard to hear what he said! Other than that great video!!
I have the same air pressure readings on mine now.
My diesel cold startup experience with this storm as follows:
Truck 2002 Ford f250 7.3
Batteries Aldelco AGM Golds, 6 years old.
Coolant/D.water 60/40
Oil Shell Rotella T6 5w40
Odometer 175,000 miles
Motorcraft glow plugs, 2 years old.
Block heater, Hotshots winter fuel additive.
Startup 1 with Block heater.
Temperature: -8, -45 with wind chill.
Block heater for 3 hours.
Truck started right up with 1 cycle of the glow plugs. After 10 seconds Truck went into high idle. No smoke after 2 seconds. No engine lag. Near perfect startup.
Startup 2 without Block heater.
Temperature: -3 -40 with windchill.
1 cycle of the glow plugs also.
Truck started right up again but this time after startup it lagged to idle engine speed. 10 seconds later went into high idle and after 20 minutes resumed normal idle. Blew white smoke.
Leaked no oil due to brand new oil cooler seals. And maintained 14.6v during idle.
Overall old trucks do fine if they're maintained well and proper assistance measures are utilized.
I used to have a Case IH Maxxum tractor with a 5.9 Cummins here In upstate NY. It was 1990 model. I never had trouble starting it in the cold. I ran 0w-40 Mobile 1 Delvac in it. Others couldn't plow snow. I ended up plowing all my neighbors for free.
I'm just north of you guys and it was like -20 as well, -52 with wind chill, my 2.7 ecoboost f150 fired right up thankfully haha
We have a 2022 Rebel Ecodiesel. It's -31f here today. With windchill feels like -52f. She remote started great. But everything feels super stiff when you drive.
Andre and Alex, my new fav TFL duo.
I have a 2020 6.6L Duramax in my GMC 2500. I'm living in the Northwest Territories. I have had no issues starting in our cold temps. We've had our day time highs in around -35C and as low as -40C over the last week. I do make use of my block heater. I also added 2x battery blankets and an oil pan heater just to increase my chances of starting. I have done a few cold starts at -33C without plugging in and had no issues. The only irritating part is the DEF tank takes a few min to warm up enough to melt the fluid but knock on wood - no issues with the DEF system as of yet. I keep the tank just slightly below 1/2 for the DEF and that seems to prevent any issues.
Modern diesels has gotten so good at starting in cold weather. I drive a 2012 Audi A6 V6 TDI, and last year i cold started it in about -25 celsius. It only ran the glow plugs for about 3 seconds and raised idle for maybe 30 seconds. Otherwise all was as usual. Thats pretty good for a 10+ year old car with 150000 km.
It’s going to be in the 80s here in Los Angeles this weekend… you guys should make a drive to warm up lol… happy holidays!!!
Hi guys,
Don't have to be worry about minus 3 or 5 °F. Those trucks used to start and run at this temp. May be it is one of a few times that you got a lot of snow and cold but be assured that there a lot of place where those engine run at a low degrees. And they do wery well. It's not a surprise for me.
My 2004 sitting for 2 weeks started right up no hesitation 9 degrees
Andre, would putting the transfer case in neutral with the transmission in drive help warm it up a little quicker? I use to do that with my manual transmission trucks (don't forget to set the parking brake!) because when it's in neutral, the fluid just sits at the bottom starving the bearings/ internals of oil. Not sure if it would help with an automatic though.
What a breeze! We were at -34 when I went to work Thursday a.m.! Wind chill was -50ish. 🥶🙏☘️. P.S. I live in Casper.
-30celsius here yesterday. (-22) 2.8l duramax took only 2seconds to warm up the glow plugs.
-8 with -33 windchill here in northern IL. That wind will get ya if you are out in it for ten minutes or so.
I am from northeast Wyoming. The week before Christmas we were well below zero for several days. I own a 2012 Ram 2500 diesel. It started at -22 (not plugged in)and I used it throughout the day. Hot Shots Secret anti-gel and number 2 diesel.
For some reason I thought it would have gotten that cold more often in CO. Interesting!
I think the coldest I've had to start my '03 3500 Ram Cummins was -22 and it had been setting out all night while I was at work, not plugged in and it took right off after the second try. My 2020 2500 Cummins had no problem at -15 unplugged overnight this last winter. I've never had to use ether for starting on any ram cummins.
I know I take it easy on my 8 speed transmission in my Ram 1500 when it's cold out. It definitely holds a gear longer and shifts slower until it warms up.
We couldn’t get the semis started yesterday. We needed the block heaters for sure
Reading the Canadians laughing at this makes me smile. It's Christmas Day in Los Angeles & we're having TERRIBLE weather!
We're suffering with terrible Sun Storms. It's 80 degrees & there's this bright yellow thing in the sky shining ALL day! 😎
I love my 2007 Cummins with NO def.
We got -11 here in southwestern Ontario...been snowing since 3 am..
WOW! That is interesting and nice to know.
I'd love to see a comparison on how it starts with the block heater plugged in or not
damn colorado warm as hell..
At Malmstrom AFB Montana in the mid-80s, I often drove GM diesels in the missile field. We had to leave them running 3 days straight in the winter or they wouldn’t start. Things have come a long way.
A couple of Wimps, that’s T-shirt weather, now our winters are minus 30 with windchill- 40,. Usually around there
Speaking as a guy from Atlanta it actually got down to about 8 degrees today's well about 30mins north of Atlanta so not too far behind u.
Couldn't see the temperature... Heated Mirrors, Battery powered Leaf Blower works well for snow on vehicles, trailers, semi's, rv's... etc....