Finding Momoland: The Grim Reality of South Korean Survival Shows

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  • @mariaakaannie6138
    @mariaakaannie6138 Рік тому +119

    "Its not problematic because they signed the contract"
    its still problematic, they took advantage of young girls who were chasing their dream

  • @monib111
    @monib111 Рік тому +467

    I still have a heavy heart when it comes to Momoland (knowing how they ended up and feeling glad that they disbanded). I just feel bad for Daisy: Imagine being eliminated, being brought into a group after their debut, cast aside after hitting a career high and being kept in a contract but unable to leave. Also, it's a weird blessing/curse that Huh Chanmi was in Duble Kick at the time and wasn't in this survival show even though she was the most known/popular trainee in that company.

  • @Nicolesid1
    @Nicolesid1 Рік тому +350

    Making them pay 60k to be on the show is insane!

    • @dookiestaininyodraws
      @dookiestaininyodraws Рік тому +24

      fr like where do you even get that much 💰

    • @oof_flores3425
      @oof_flores3425 Рік тому +10

      ​@@dookiestaininyodraws loans probably 😔

    • @oliviaisnicole1835
      @oliviaisnicole1835 Рік тому +1

      wait when did they say 60k in the video? 🧐

    • @solenemartine5197
      @solenemartine5197 Рік тому +7

      @@oliviaisnicole1835 16:45 "i had debt close to 70 million won (approximately $60 000) and they said it was part of the production cost for "finding Momoland" "

    • @balladofahomeschooledboy0514
      @balladofahomeschooledboy0514 9 місяців тому

      ​@@oliviaisnicole1835stfu trying to be genius when you didnt even watch the whole video

  • @Lunarelise
    @Lunarelise Рік тому +225

    The company literally did them dirty with all of this messy strategy and mind games.
    Especially Joee, she has so much potential. She reminds me of Billie Suki in many ways. She could shine more brighter 😢

    • @missbutterflyuwu5595
      @missbutterflyuwu5595 Рік тому +4

      she’s in a survival show now again but forgot the name 😅 vote for her

    • @KayleighNatasha
      @KayleighNatasha Рік тому +7

      @@missbutterflyuwu5595 Queendom Puzzle

  • @danoswald8099
    @danoswald8099 Рік тому +374

    Momoland deserved better than what MLD put them through. Great job on this

    • @woahthere_dami
      @woahthere_dami Рік тому +18

      they did😭
      They were the first girl group I got into because of JooE's persona. Seeing what they went through was heartbreaking...😭💔

    • @elmin82
      @elmin82 Рік тому +5

      yes they def deserved better

    • @celestia..
      @celestia.. Рік тому +5

      I missed them sm

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +4

      Yes and now they’re ruining TFN and Lapillus especially Chanty

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +2

      @@woahthere_dami same

  • @imbabey
    @imbabey Рік тому +156

    the way the company kept explaining themselves was laughable. just because something is a 'standard practice in the entertainment industry' doesn't mean it's not predatory and wrong. just because someone signs a contract doesn't mean they fully endorse it 😑

    • @pinkwindmillchris3996
      @pinkwindmillchris3996 Рік тому

      Wow I watched your lyric video for love by nine.i

    • @bastetowl3258
      @bastetowl3258 4 місяці тому

      companies’ top priority is to make money and business is a dirty game. i wouldn’t trust any of these kpop companies

  • @djvillan
    @djvillan Рік тому +142

    There is so much wrong being done by entertainment companies that is continually being exposed yet next to nothing is done about it to protect the trainees and idols. Until there are strict regulations/guidelines and they are strictly enforced upon the companies, including large fines, taking away their licenses and even jail time for the guilty persons we are going to continue to see more of these stories about trainees and idols enduring mental, physical and financial abuse. And in the worst case scenario, news of trainees and idols taking their own lives.

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +2

      Yeah but it’s nothing new and keeps continuing to happen

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +2

      Big or a small a company can be bad cough sm

    • @jorrdan.
      @jorrdan. Рік тому

      Actually I think there are new laws that were recently passed that give a lot more protections to artists, so progress is being made!

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому

      @@jorrdan. yeah there were

  • @Blanka767
    @Blanka767 Рік тому +67

    I was thinking about this reality show today, it was so embarrassing. The money spent on Finding Momoland would be better spent on the group's debut.

  • @AzazelCodex
    @AzazelCodex Рік тому +23

    "Survival" Shows only seem to ensure the Survival of the Companies at the cost of the Trainees

  • @yallthought8444
    @yallthought8444 Рік тому +24

    If it's a small consolation, Daisy is winning her lawsuit against MLD. They haven't submitted any further evidence.

  • @MissTrish1993
    @MissTrish1993 Рік тому +43

    I can't believe they charged the girls huge production fees for being on the show, that's crazy.
    I love your channel, I'm a clueless outsider when it comes to kpop but your videos make learning about it all really accessable.

  • @The_Super_NOVA
    @The_Super_NOVA Рік тому +50

    I remember when they first went viral with Boom Boom. Great song, great era. I wish they could have maintained that high, but their bad company and all the scandals proved too much. :(

  • @danoswald8099
    @danoswald8099 Рік тому +61

    Momoland was a great group. OT9

  • @cailinmch3897
    @cailinmch3897 Рік тому +80

    I feel like your editing keeps getting more and more creative! Nice work on the intro!

  • @fleurpouvoir
    @fleurpouvoir Рік тому +21

    i’m a huge fan of momoland, i find it sad that daisy’s mom attacked the rest of the girls, especially knowing how screwed up the company was. to my fellow merries, please support each of them on their solo endeavours. all of them have social media now, daisy has instagram and tik tok; i love seeing her doing dance covers and getting snippets of her life now. she seems like she is done with the industry, which is fair, but there is more to see from all of them. thank you for making this video, momoland had such potential but between their toxic company and false rumors; they weren’t able to thrive. i know it is unlikely but hopefully, now or in the future, we will see them together again. it doesn‘t even have to be on a stage... i just want to see my girls together again. 😓

  • @shampoo6767
    @shampoo6767 Рік тому +24

    Finding MOMOLAND was a mess I really feel bad for those girls they deserved better

  • @toyland12
    @toyland12 Рік тому +72

    Another excellent job and I look forward to your follow up on Momoland. I really liked the members and how they interacted with each other. Daisy was particularly good when making content with Ahin and Nancy for English speaking fans. I've always felt she got a raw deal, but the reality it a bit muddy. Double Kick produced some of my all time favorite songs, but when they became managers of their own group it was a disaster. I wish they would just go back to producing bops and I wish Momoland could live on under a better company, but we know that will never happen. They all ended up with the "death card".

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +3

      Yeah but they could still release a special single since basically they’re like LovelyZ now they don’t have to be under their agency to release music but I bet they’ll all move on but I know we’ll get reunions

  • @deanab-se5op
    @deanab-se5op Рік тому +26

    Not fair to other contestants when Daisy got offered something despite being eliminated. But it's not her fault.
    Nothing good coming from this company. I wonder how their boy group gonna survive 🤔

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +9

      Unfortunately It’s not going well for TFN. They haven’t been promoted properly in Korea In almost 2 years. Yeah and look at Lapillus already. And Chanty.

    • @deanab-se5op
      @deanab-se5op Рік тому +2

      @@gwenmloveskpopcecmore yes forgot to mention about Lapillus

  • @kurzweber3041
    @kurzweber3041 Рік тому +30

    Looking forward to seeing the next video on the mess that is Momoland.
    I hope the girls go on to much happier lives in whatever they choose to do.

  • @avsambart
    @avsambart Рік тому +12

    Imagine telling ten kids they had to each pay 60k for a TV show that a whole ass company decided to make.

  • @kkelly4369
    @kkelly4369 Рік тому +14

    Yesss I’ve missed your content, I clicked so quick

  • @jnd_jnd
    @jnd_jnd Рік тому +9

    Yk when I first started watching Finding Momoland, the only thought I had was why not debut all 10 instead of eliminating just 3 lol

  • @michime7860
    @michime7860 Рік тому +4

    I feel so bad for all the artists who had to go through this and still are suffering from this

  • @strawberry-di6gz
    @strawberry-di6gz Рік тому +18

    ur vids r so freaking interesting

  • @CheshireCesare
    @CheshireCesare Рік тому +8

    Man, I’ve been out of the KPop loop for a while now, come back to find out Momoland disbanded?? !? 😭 Yikesss oh no…!! 😢😢 I wish the girls the best, hope they find happiness and creative fulfillment in whatever they decide to do 🙏🏼 ❤

  • @jessiehuysman7955
    @jessiehuysman7955 Рік тому +9

    Woah i never knew how much finding momoland was a direct copy of sixteen

  • @michime7860
    @michime7860 Рік тому +4

    Such companies should shut down

  • @kenlipson8686
    @kenlipson8686 Рік тому +14

    Awesome video!!! Are you going to do a Sixteen/Twice video?

  • @CalvinistEeyore
    @CalvinistEeyore Рік тому +14

    There is a reason if you look up lists of worst companies in Kpop MLD is almost always listed on lists or in videos. Finding Momoland is the least of the sins MLD has committed against Momoland in particular yet I think the history of Momoland video will cover the other offenses. In short, Momoland was a group that captured lighting in a bottle once and the group's label kept trying to recapture that fluke hit or capitalize on overseas popularity.
    With Daisy, her tenure in the group was before my time as a Merrie but I always felt like she got a raw deal and handled post-fame really well. Although when Momoland disbanded I know certain people didn't take too kindly to Daisy's attitude being "I don't care." Yet I think people sometimes have this overly romanticised view of the relationships members of K-pop groups have with each other and for every group like Rainbow or BTS there are groups or members of groups that are merely co-workers and that's fine. Momoland is a group I had a lot of firsts with as a K-pop group and for a while Oh My Girl was the only other group I actively supported.

  • @moonlight_orange
    @moonlight_orange Рік тому +8

    22:25 haeun was just a small kid omggg

  • @luvwhus
    @luvwhus Рік тому +17

    as a momoland predebut stan. this is gonna be a hard watch :( i miss the girls

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +2

      Yes but they’ll always be 9 in our hearts and pls support JooE in Queendom puzzle 🧩😉

  • @Soichiro69
    @Soichiro69 Рік тому +2

    Oh snap missed the notifs for this, just now watching your brilliance

  • @moonshi5846
    @moonshi5846 Рік тому +9

    momoland had so much potential to be bigger, if only their company knew how to really use the popularity they received through boom boom and most importantly treat their artists better

  • @KayleighNatasha
    @KayleighNatasha Рік тому +48

    I still think Hee Jae and Shinsia should have been made members

    • @deanab-se5op
      @deanab-se5op Рік тому +3

      Shin Sia is the best vocalist

    • @KayleighNatasha
      @KayleighNatasha Рік тому +3

      @@deanab-se5op Definitely her high note on Into The New World was fantastic

  • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
    @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +8

    Boys 24 and SKYE/IN2IT deserved better as well (but I’m glad the group is doing better off and) but I’m glad DKB’s Echan and HeeChan are thriving (they were former Boys24 contestants)

  • @zacharikurbah6358
    @zacharikurbah6358 Рік тому +25

    Momoland has many potentials but their label wasted them, mistreated and mismanaged them
    P.S, can I join your Discord server, please?

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +1

      Yeah and now it’s happening to their other groups. MLD sucks in general

  • @cornelia9309
    @cornelia9309 Рік тому +7

    I saw Momoland in 2019 and when they came on stage I was so confused because there were only 6 of them, and we hadn’t gotten any news about the other members not coming besides Taeha and Daisy being on hiatus. I was so sad when Yeonwoo didn’t show up and only months later she left the group :( I was so excited to see them and it was amazing, but it was a huge letdown that Yeonwoo didn’t come and that there were no news about it beforehand either 😭

  • @minnesotamerry8672
    @minnesotamerry8672 Рік тому

    Thank you for another great video

  • @michime7860
    @michime7860 Рік тому +3

    I hope Daisy's living an amazing life

  • @gabdongipark
    @gabdongipark Рік тому +18

    Daisy's mother is a mess too like you could have avoid to pay everything, you could have removed your kid from that

    • @taylorl9424
      @taylorl9424 Рік тому +10

      ya that couldve been an option. But also she probably didn't want to disappoint her daughter wanting to achieve her dream

  • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
    @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +4

    Eventually Momoland filmed the mv Wonderful Love at Everland which would also be the start of OT9

  • @day5833
    @day5833 Рік тому +3

    Even though MLD put so much statement, it still haven't cover a truth about them being one of the worst companies who mistreating their own idols, AKA nancy from Momoland

  • @brettwilson9181
    @brettwilson9181 6 місяців тому +1

    Its sad really. Regardless of who to blame, Daisy's mother? MLD? They were great entertainers and could have been even more successful. Boom Boom and Baam will always be iconic in kpop history. They made their mark at least.

  • @joelreyes4237
    @joelreyes4237 Рік тому +7

    That was crazy with its was manipulated in a way. I never watch any survival show ever. When Daisy spoke about that I was surprised. I didn't want to believe that at first but she wasn't promoting with the group at all

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +1

      Although it’s over you should watch peak time it’s so good and not rigged at all although one group was done dirty on the 1st episode (Kingdom) it’s pretty good overall. Midnight also did a vid on peak time so pls check it out

    • @joelreyes4237
      @joelreyes4237 Рік тому +2

      @@gwenmloveskpopcecmore where I can see that anyway

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +1

      @@joelreyes4237 Peak Time? On Viki

    • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
      @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +1

      @@joelreyes4237 Or the vid? On Midnight Theories ofc

    • @joelreyes4237
      @joelreyes4237 Рік тому +1

      @@gwenmloveskpopcecmore I will see if it's good

  • @ASteelWheel
    @ASteelWheel 3 місяці тому

    I want these young ladies to win. They could have been as big as other groups if their management did everything in their power to take care of them and their talent. It's too bad that based on what other people are saying, MLD seems to be repeating the same mistakes with their current talent like Lapillus. It's not fair at all. These kids have dreams. These kids are working hard for their dreams. And these kids have put everything into their dreams.

  • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
    @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому +1

    Little did we know Thumbs Up would be their last ever win 🥺❤️

  • @angelili11
    @angelili11 Рік тому +3

    MY FAV CHANNEL MAKING A VIDEO ABOUT MY EX-ULT GRP MOMOLAND OMG?!?!

  • @gwenmloveskpopcecmore
    @gwenmloveskpopcecmore Рік тому

    I’m happy they all finally got to leave 🥺❤️ Denise deserved better in SN as well

  • @Helios824
    @Helios824 Рік тому +2

    I feel so bad For them after 6 years

  • @vesavius
    @vesavius Рік тому +3

    Paying for the show seems weird but, tbh, in the end all idols (and recording artists in general) pay for the expenses of the preparation and creating of the music. I am not saying MLD are a good company, they are not, I am just saying that in the end all artists pay to be produced and promoted. In the end, read your contract because you are an adult and are responsible for signing it if you choose to.
    JYP also rigged Sixteen in a very similar way but because they are a big 3 company and it was Twice people got over it very quickly. You don't think Twice had to (and still do) pay off all their promotion costs? The double standards are notable.
    I also actually strongly disliked Daisy for the way that she handled this all.. undermining the group mid comeback like she did was a direct attack on the remaining girls themselves and was mean and spiteful. She didn't need to do it in order to win her case so it is clear that it was malice born out of jealousy. It was disgusting.

  • @glenndavis1868
    @glenndavis1868 10 місяців тому

    Teaha and Yeonwoo along with Jane were the powerhouse vocals of the group. Daisy was, is, and will always be the visual of the group and all-arounder.

  • @preyslaydisplay
    @preyslaydisplay Рік тому +7

    MLD fumbled so bad with momoland….I hope they don’t do it again with lapilus but…….not looking great so far

  • @mariangprobinsyanachannnel3730
    @mariangprobinsyanachannnel3730 3 місяці тому

    who is hee jae and shin sia

  • @elmin82
    @elmin82 Рік тому +1

    Good video

  • @mariangprobinsyanachannnel3730
    @mariangprobinsyanachannnel3730 3 місяці тому

    Where us taeha

  • @mariangprobinsyanachannnel3730
    @mariangprobinsyanachannnel3730 3 місяці тому

    momoland ot10

  • @Helios824
    @Helios824 9 місяців тому

    Mld will never Do same terrible Things happen again. They start new variety show in Philippines called Dream Maker their Formed Filipino/south Korea boy group know as hori7on after 6 years of their rigged terrible survival show

  • @Kpopnerd23
    @Kpopnerd23 Рік тому +4

    First

  • @rainbowsubs2
    @rainbowsubs2 6 місяців тому

    yeah this show was definitely rigged

  • @nyancharge
    @nyancharge Рік тому +5

    Don't forget stealing a song from Russian group Serebro for "Boom Boom" and "Baam".

  • @skyesky
    @skyesky Рік тому +24

    13:06 "Weki Meki" is pronounced as "wiki miki". I highly recommend learning the Korean alphabet. Otherwise, great video!