RIP.. a complex lesson on cycles. And it gives an understanding of using different chord notes as a Bass note. Finding voicings.. for someone discovering chords it is very good theory and taught by a master music teacher thankyou. Mr Morgan
@cm0220ster: Agreed. As Miles Davis used to say, "Learn it and then forget it". Sorry for being 2 years late, but I just discovered these great lessons. Ken, Toronto
Great stuff. Of course this is theory, the technical stuff behind the music making. Practice at understanding and it only deepens your understanding. Then when you play, forget it but you'd be surprised by what comes about. In my opinion kind of necessary to move your playing to a higher level, particularly when you are talking about jazz. It's the breakdown - nobody thinks this way consciously when playing, it just flows because it's practiced until it becomes part of your playing.
@PhilipPorter Actually music is based on mathematics but the experience is based on the way it effects you emotionally. The mathematical component can open your mind to new areas of discovery but one must practice those areas until they become so ingrained in your psyche that they become instinct. Doing this will open yourself to new levels of creativity.
I look at music theory as tools in the toolbox. I mean what carpenter shows up to a job without a major toolbox? Likewise what guitar player shows up to a gig with nothing in the box? I at one time studied only by ear, my progress was slow and only followed what already was there. Then I began to read music and followed the written note, finally I studied theory and could create anything I wanted. Now I can merely hear a song and immediately write out the patterns having trained my ear via music theory and the Nashville Numbering system. For me, that's pretty cool.
AThe last thing I'm going to say: a good practice should include the theory stuff, physical stuff (getting your hands to actually do this stuff) and the emotional/spiritual side, which to me is just playing and having a blast doing it. Three different paths all leading to the same road, but neglecting one at the expense of the other three and your playing suffers as a result. Again, thanks for posting.
@PhilipPorter son, don't be silly. music is mathematics. music is emotion. you do not have to separate the two. and here's a tip, don't give me tips if you don't even know me.
@superagnitio Thank you. I just based my post based on my own experiences in 38 years of playing. It's the way it worked for me. If you lived near me I would take you up on that beer. :-)
@journeyquest1 The mathematical relationships behind harmonics is not complicated. Besides he's not using Math in the way a Math instructor would. Use your ears to sense the relationship.
@PhilipPorter son, please. calm yourself down. of course you are a fool to believe that music has nothing to do with mathematics. just feel proud that you have learned something new. and please try to learn when being cocky is necessary, and when it is not.
@PhilipPorter son, express your opinions all you want, anywhere you want. your opinions are welcome here. your false understandings of facts are also welcome, and i will be glad to correct you and remind you that you are a fool in case you express them in an arrogant and exclamatory manner (as you have done so far). attempting to make me feel bad about myself will not help you in any way. and please, do not encourage drug use. drugs are unnecessary.
@PhilipPorter Your arrogance disappoints me, friend, but so does most people's. This doesn't have anything to do with who you are or who I am. Whether or not you are a better being is not the concern; the concern is that you thoughtlessly stated 'This isn't music, this is maths!'. Now, if you weren't serious about that, at least point it out. If you were, then you were a fool. Now you have learned, and have become a wiser person. Peace, love, and mind your language.
@LfunkeyA And here`s me thinking it was emotion... thanks for the information, oh and here`s a tip. Instead of learning maths, try talking to real people and learn some social skills.
@PhilipPorter denying that music is mathematics, is not an opinion, its a wrong statement. you need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. saying a wrong statement, and then continuously denying that you were wrong upon correction, is arrogant my boy, very arrogant. desiring to remain a fool is also arrogant. i accept all opinions. i do not accept false truths. become wiser. become nicer.
@ @Phil Porter: c.c. @LfunkeyA: Phil, as I just found this post I noticed your boorshh gutter language as used by you 2 years ago. I hope by now you have matured, ceased living in your parent's basement , changed your underwear, and applied for a job. And, oh, all music is based on mathematics. I'm sure you have learned that, by now. Ken, Toronto
RIP.. a complex lesson on cycles. And it gives an understanding of using different chord notes as a Bass note. Finding voicings.. for someone discovering chords it is very good theory and taught by a master music teacher thankyou. Mr Morgan
Nice walk downs or cycles. So close to what you already know. You revealed those so faithfully.
@cm0220ster: Agreed. As Miles Davis used to say, "Learn it and then forget it".
Sorry for being 2 years late, but I just discovered these great lessons.
Ken, Toronto
Great lesson on the use of the cycle of 4th's and 5th's and movement !
Howard you are a master musician as well as teacher. Bravo!
Excellent stuff here! Thank you Howard!
Grandpa..! u rock..! i love the music.. u remind me of great classics ..! Hats off..!
Great stuff. Of course this is theory, the technical stuff behind the music making. Practice at understanding and it only deepens your understanding. Then when you play, forget it but you'd be surprised by what comes about. In my opinion kind of necessary to move your playing to a higher level, particularly when you are talking about jazz. It's the breakdown - nobody thinks this way consciously when playing, it just flows because it's practiced until it becomes part of your playing.
@PhilipPorter Actually music is based on mathematics but the experience is based on the way it effects you emotionally. The mathematical component can open your mind to new areas of discovery but one must practice those areas until they become so ingrained in your psyche that they become instinct. Doing this will open yourself to new levels of creativity.
I look at music theory as tools in the toolbox. I mean what carpenter shows up to a job without a major toolbox? Likewise what guitar player shows up to a gig with nothing in the box? I at one time studied only by ear, my progress was slow and only followed what already was there. Then I began to read music and followed the written note, finally I studied theory and could create anything I wanted. Now I can merely hear a song and immediately write out the patterns having trained my ear via music theory and the Nashville Numbering system. For me, that's pretty cool.
AThe last thing I'm going to say: a good practice should include the theory stuff, physical stuff (getting your hands to actually do this stuff) and the emotional/spiritual side, which to me is just playing and having a blast doing it. Three different paths all leading to the same road, but neglecting one at the expense of the other three and your playing suffers as a result. Again, thanks for posting.
Hello HOWIE MORGEN up there in Heaven from Joe Nania 1972 on Northern Boulevard in Est Flushing New York -
@PhilipPorter
son, don't be silly. music is mathematics. music is emotion. you do not have to separate the two. and here's a tip, don't give me tips if you don't even know me.
@tbcass Yea, Mozart was fascinated by the mathematical aspect of music. He even used billiard balls to inject randomness to his compositions.
very nice stuff!
@superagnitio Thank you. I just based my post based on my own experiences in 38 years of playing. It's the way it worked for me. If you lived near me I would take you up on that beer. :-)
@tbcass One of the best comments I've ever seen related to music. I'd buy you a beer mate, cheers!
Wow! I just subscribed.
good lesson!! thnx!!
How do I get the beginning to end of your video's
his glasses are in drop D ;))
@journeyquest1 The mathematical relationships behind harmonics is not complicated. Besides he's not using Math in the way a Math instructor would. Use your ears to sense the relationship.
@PhilipPorter
son, please. calm yourself down. of course you are a fool to believe that music has nothing to do with mathematics. just feel proud that you have learned something new. and please try to learn when being cocky is necessary, and when it is not.
@tbcass So what if you werent gifted with a mathmatical mind?
@tbcass UNless you live in Madrid ¡, Spain, it's gonna be rather complicated ;) Cheers
This isn`t music, this is maths!
Music theory confuses me.
@PhilipPorter
son, express your opinions all you want, anywhere you want. your opinions are welcome here. your false understandings of facts are also welcome, and i will be glad to correct you and remind you that you are a fool in case you express them in an arrogant and exclamatory manner (as you have done so far). attempting to make me feel bad about myself will not help you in any way. and please, do not encourage drug use. drugs are unnecessary.
@PhilipPorter
Your arrogance disappoints me, friend, but so does most people's. This doesn't have anything to do with who you are or who I am. Whether or not you are a better being is not the concern; the concern is that you thoughtlessly stated 'This isn't music, this is maths!'. Now, if you weren't serious about that, at least point it out. If you were, then you were a fool. Now you have learned, and have become a wiser person. Peace, love, and mind your language.
@LfunkeyA And here`s me thinking it was emotion... thanks for the information, oh and here`s a tip.
Instead of learning maths, try talking to real people and learn some social skills.
@PhilipPorter
music is mathematics, fool
@PhilipPorter
denying that music is mathematics, is not an opinion, its a wrong statement. you need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. saying a wrong statement, and then continuously denying that you were wrong upon correction, is arrogant my boy, very arrogant. desiring to remain a fool is also arrogant. i accept all opinions. i do not accept false truths. become wiser. become nicer.
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@Phil Porter: c.c. @LfunkeyA: Phil, as I just found this post I noticed your boorshh gutter language as used by you 2 years ago. I hope by now you have matured, ceased living in your parent's basement , changed your underwear, and applied for a job.
And, oh, all music is based on mathematics. I'm sure you have learned that, by now.
Ken, Toronto