Moleskine vs Leuchtturm 1917 | Writers Notebook Review + Pen Test
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2020
- It's finally time to get yourself a nice notebook, but which one should you pick? Moleskine or Leuchtturm1917?
In this video, I give my first impressions on two notebooks and let you know which one would be best for writers.
Additionally, I put these two notebooks through the pen test to see how smooth each pen writes and whether the page can hold the ink so it doesn't seep through to the other side of the page.
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For everyone who likes writing in a paper notebook, I highly recommend writing in plain unruled pages. Your handwriting will be better and you’ll feel like you are not confined by the horizontal lines as if they were iron prison bars that were suddenly removed. In an unruled notebook you will be able to alternate your handwriting size. Slightly bigger, slightly smaller. Also if you occasionally want to draw in your notebook you will enjoy drawing much more when you do not have lines.
This tip is so underrated. I stopped using lined paper some time ago, especially for academics and notetaking. less time will be spent trying to keep within lines and revision is usually quicker (for me atleast). Writing on plain paper also gives off a slight artsy feel once the page is filled😊
@@mcbenis yes, I started using unruled “blank” notebooks when I was in high school in 2001. For me it allowed me to make my handwritten notes more organized, and easier to review afterward.
Another thing that somewhat helped me is alternating ink colors, if I was using pens. Not the crazy unusual colors, but just 3-4 major ink colors like red, black, blue, green.
What works really well for me are the dotted notebooks (like bullet journals). I can align things neatly when I need it, but can ignore them like a plain page when I don't need them.
I use unruled pages for my personal diary since I don't want to feel constrained by immaginary binds even when putting on paper my personal thoughts and feels, for general notes I do use lined paper to keep them more tidy and I use squared paper to draw my dnd maps lol.
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I have used Moleskin for ages but with time have switched to fountain pens. The 1917 has a slightly heavier paper. That slight difference makes a huge difference for fountain pens.
Try Rhodia . I went from Euchtturm to that as it feathers less.
Now I switch between Tomoe river or Rhodia.
Tomoe river is even better feather wise but it is extremey thin so one sided or with ghosting
As a German - I love they way you pronounce ‚Leuchtturm‘ 🥰
😂😇
@@theelliotchan He was joking. You totally mispronounced it.
@@ReneAltena he was not joking lmao. That's why he said he loves the way he pronounces it. Do you think he would have said that if he thought he was pronouncing it correctly?
@@ashwilson1746It's called sarcasm. He did mispronounce it; Leuchtturm is pronounced 'loych-torm' where the "ch" you pronounce with the back of your mouth (just use Google translate to hear it). He completely butchered it (but props for trying lol)
@@abbyagust my parents are german so I know a decent amount of it. I figured he was being sarcastic but he pointed it out because he knew he was pronouncing it wrong. 🥴
Totally agree:
Leuchtturm is notebook nirvana.
Pentel Energel pens are shockingly nice.
I used Moleskine quite extensively for awhile, but picked up a Leuchtturm when I was traveling in Europe recently. It basically does everything that Moleskine does but better: pagination, table of contents for you to fill, and labels for the spine and front of the book.
Another advice I have for people who want to enhance their writing experience is to try using different graphite pencils. Apart from discovering the very fun world of premium wood and mechanical pencils you have also more creative options.
However, the Moleskine feels better in hand and looks better for its size and its rounded corners. The leather on the soft cover is so beautiful. The paper is thin and too transparent but that's the charm - you want your notes to look a little messy. It's ideal for artists and fast notes, fast sketches. It's not like an Montblanc journal for business people and that's why I like it.
I would always use a blank page. It's so calming to look at. If you find it difficult to write straight, you can put a lined/checkered sheet underneath.
Wow, I can’t believe I just found you today! This comparison video is very thorough and detailed. You are amazing!
I clicked the subscribe button.
So happy you've found it! More videos coming. Hope you'll enjoy them!
You could try Midori, Rhodia (or Clairefontaine) and Stalogy notebooks. They use very different papers, but they are all very good in their own way and I think is fun to experiment with paper. It also depends on what type of item you want to use. Rhodia is very good for fountain pens, but for me is not the best paper for pencils for example. Stalogy has a lot of ghosting but usually not bleeding through and I find the ghosting also enjoyable. Midori paper is good for pencils and fountain pens and has a crafts vibe that I really like. I hope this would be useful, enjoy writing and stay safe!
Thank you for the recommendations! I'm very interested in trying the Midori and Rhodia. Happy writing! 📝
I've not tried a Rhodia notebook, but I have tried Rhodia paper and it works wonderfully for fountain pens. I also got a cheap Maruman notebook and it works really well, with very faint show-through from a broad, wet fountain pen.
Have been journaling with ruled Moleskine since 2017. Used ballpoint for writing and colored pencil for drawing or “mind mapping”. Thinner paper and bleed through was the issue to avoid. The ruled lines seemed not to impact. Recently have gone to fountain pen, not only for writing but quick artistic sketches when spirit so moved.
Considering change Leuchtturm 1917 120G dot grid. Light dots to guide the linear when needed. Little more expensive, but no bleed through and less ghosting with inks I am using.
Nice video Elliot! Prompted me to clarify my reasons for the change before my first Leuchtturm purchase. TY
Excellent video...just purchased my first Leuchtturms and I am looking forward to writing ✍ in them.
As a writer and notebook addict, I want to thank you for a very nice video on the topic of notebooks. I use both and have honed my down to the softcovers and grid pages. Thank you for this.
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks for making this review. It's straight to the point and I appreciate you testing it on a regular pen. There's a lots of other reviews using fancy pens, but some of us just use regular pens like the Bic.
Regular? The fountain is the first post quill ink pen, dude.
Nice review. I just started journaling last month picked up a Moleskine for $22 dollars which I thought was a little pricey but thought I'd give it a try. The hard cover feels good, it probably won't warp over time, provides good protection if you carry it around every day. Sadly, the Moleskine doesn't take kindly to a fountain pen as the paper is a little slick and the ink has the tendency to remain wet on the page until it dries and having to fan the page dry is problematic. I bought one with lined pages and the envelope in the back comes in handy for keeping small items. I will use the notebook until it's finished but will probably upgrade to the Leuchtturn when the time comes as per your well-done review.
I think you might enjoy trying out an Exceed notebook too. I’m a fellow novel writer and a daily journaler, so I go through notebooks very quickly. I finished my last MidoriMD notebook in about three weeks, and my last Leuchtturm 1917 in about the same. I’m a paper snob as well. I love Tomoe River paper and Rhodia, but recently was blown away by the Exceed A5 Bullet Journal notebooks at (of all places) Wal-Mart. They are less than $10 and in my experience, out perform Leuchtturm. I see you’re Canadian, so if you’d like to try one, I’d be happy to send one your way. Just let me know. Happy writing!
Thanks for the recommendations! Haven't tried the Exceed one yet. If it's not too much trouble, please connect with me via the email in my YT About page, I'd love to give the notebook a shot.
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Do they sell the ones your recommending in the uk?
Do they lay flat when open, without having to be held? That's my issue with cheaper notebooks.
@The Ginger Ninja
You can try to find a notebook made by Oxford. Germans love the papers in it, as they're heavy users of rollerball and fountain pens. Cheap and handle wet ink like a champ.
I break down my notebooks like this:
I am a drinking water utility operator and take constant field notes that include everything from chlorine sample data to diagrams of watermain system isolations and valve layouts, along with my job ticket logs and operating hours logs each day. I keep a XL-size squared Moleskine notebook in my truck and write in it constantly throughout the day. It sits on the centre console of my truck and I'm completely lost without it. For these field notes I use a Pentel P209 mechanical pencil in 0.9mm; in that vintage 1970s engineer shade of mustard yellow. They write smooth as butter and I can't say enough about the pencil or the notebook. I keep a Staedtler general purpose drafting template in the back cover pocket for drawing diagrams.
I am also the minutes/notetaker for my union. I use the Moleskine 3-pak large-size ruled notebooks for this purpose. Because meeting minutes are legal documents that can be subpoenaed for records I always write in pen, and black ink, and I love the Zebra F-701 all-steel, silent click pens for this. As an industrial worker I have a heavy hand and prefer a pen with decent heft.
I take a ton of courses to meet the recertification requirements for my water distribution licence, and this is where I diverge from Moleskine. For these courses I use Leuchtturm dotted notebooks because they yield to diagrams and class notes a little better than clumsy ruled pages. I hand wrote 4 years of notes in university ten years ago on basic walmart spiral notebooks and hated the way they looked on ruled pages. The reason I use Leuchtturm notebooks is strictly because they have numbered pages and a table of contents printed nicely in the front. I like to try and fill that table of contents and it provides a little nostalgia later on. I keep a Staedtler drawing template in the back pocket of these as well and generally write with the Pentel mechanical pencil here too.
I always joke with my wife that there are only maybe two brand names that I can't live without, and Moleskine is one of them (Leatherman is absolutely the other, I carry one everywhere I go.. don't get me started!).
They still make drafting templates?
I say that because I remember 30 years ago when CAD replaced manual drafting they stopped making & selling them. (Think adoption of motor cars & buggy whips.) Once you could find drafting templates practically everywhere, & now unless you make an effort to search for them, they are nowhere to be found.
@llywrch7116 if by "drafting templates" you mean those green plastic cards (Staedtler) with all the shapes you can trace, then absolutely they still make them!
My crew still stocks one in every truck in case an Operator needs to draw up a locate request or submit a map change. A lot of out guys came up in a time when business was handled with pencil and paper, so we still do a lot of our map updates and stuff the old-fashioned way. I'm very happy to be a part of that legacy at its tail end.
I spend a lot of time looking at hand drawn civil engineering drawings that were done in-house, and we still have people working for us who were formally titled "draftsmen" in the Planning Dept before it all went to CAD.
I'm pretty comfortable using the iPad/GIS system, and I certainly appreciate the value in a digital map. But there is definitely something to be said for rolling out a big-ass map over the hood of a truck, holding it down with rocks and coffee cups, and circling the crew around while you explain "the plan".
If the hardcover is too thick for you, you can carefully cut it off. Then you attach a thicker paper/cardboard so that it looks good again. This makes the notebook thinner and more flexible when you want to make it into a case with ties/rubbers. Without the hard cover you can also shorten/cut off the pages if it is too big for a Traveller's notebook cover.
Thank you for your in depth review. Just some feedback on pens from my own experience. I am into fountain pens and have tried several from pilot to mont blanc. The best combination for the relatively light Moleskine notebooks is a Platinum Preppy Fine nib + Noodlers black waterproof ink. I get no bleed-through or feathering. The best and most surprising thing is that the Preppy writes perfectly and beautifully (including inverted nob for even finer lines) and it is soooo cheap.
Thank you so much for this suggestion for fountain pens!
I'd also suggest even the extra fine nib on the Platinum Preppy.
I had a Moleskine and got one after hearing really good reviews from everyone I talked to, but it fell apart within a month of use for me. My Leuchtturm is still going strong and will run out of room WAY before it falls apart. Moleskine didn't hold up for even my Pilot G2 Gel Pen, but Leuchtturm works decently well with fountain pens, though with broader nibs, it does have a bit of ghosting/show-through.
Good honest review. Nice work.
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Thank you!!
2:16 May I suggest the soft cover moleskine it’s really nice! Also the different lines have different thicknesses if that’s something your interested
Well presented info. Sadly since the ownership and manufacturing of Moleskine left Europe to elsewhere, quality has suffered. Isn't it a wonderful world where so much is available to users. Your example of cover weight prompted me to realize my preference of 'soft' cover keeps me away from Leuchtturm despite the short comings of today's Moleskine qulaity. Give Sta'logy a try if you're a 'paper nut' like me. VERY nice.
Thanks for making this video by the way, just subscribed. (:
You're very welcome! Thank you for the support! 😊
Thank you for reviewing. Have you tried Zequenz, it’s kind of Thailand brand name notebook
You're very welcome! Thank you for the comment. I have not tried Zequenz yet, but it looks like it has really flexible binding. I'd check it out!
Nice video. I just wanted to say that some Moleskines have lined, gridded or dotted paper too.
Thanks for the comment! I actually grabbed the wrong Moleskine lol 😂, I was hoping for a dotted one for a more even comparison
Yeah and they have lined classic ones too
I just got my first moleskine notebook and i can't wait to write in it i don't know if its ok to use my FRIXION pen in it i was just wondering ?
That blue leuchtturm looks nice. Which color do you think it's better, your blue leuchtturm or the port red?
you should try the moleskine soft cover, i love them so much more than the hard cover and they hold up pretty well too!
Leuchtturm is pronounced roughly like loyht-toorm, fyi!
Thanks for clarifying that! LOL 😂
You are right...the name is misspelled in the title actually...btw. it means lighthouse in German
I also thought it was ‘mol-eh-skyne’ not ‘moll-skin’
Have you tried Traveler's notebooks? If the feeling of a nice notebook is important to you, and that you are ok with using leather, they are pretty nice for writers as you can use them as you please and play around with all the inserts. Nice video. I love the Leuchtturm notebooks for Bullet Journaling.
Thanks for the comment and the kind words! 😄👏 No, I haven't tried Traveler's notebook, but they do look nice! There is something special about a high-quality notebook. I do like the idea of a refillable one too. Especially if it feels good. I'm really enjoying the Leuchttrum one right now!
Travelers Notebook is the cover, and then there's various inserts that you can buy for it. If you're kind of builders, this is a fun and expensive system to play. Otherwise it can be very overwhelming.
Thanks for comparing the two brands. It would help a lot if you wrote down all the pen names on the paper. That would save us bad buys.
I hope you know by now that Moleskine do lined notebooks too ☺️ oh and they have a softcover version 😍😍😍
nice vid! longtime Moleskine user here. then switched to the Nanami Seven Seas Writer. pure butter!
Thanks for your comment and recommendation! Nanami Seven Seas is one I need to try 📝
How does that paper hold up to very wet fex pens? I’m always looking for new stuff to try :)
@@thulegezelschap5884 holds up great on a wet TWSBI i have
pilot G2 0.38 pen is a go-to for moleskine notebooks
I used to love Moleskine. Then I got my first Leuchtturm1917 because I needed one with numbered pages and I will never go back. The extra width is perfect for me because it's slightly wider than A5, the Moleskine notebooks are slightly narrower than A5 and I always felt a bit constricted. With the Leuchtturm I open a new blank spread and it feels like a lot of space for me to fill. Also the paper is nicer, the cover feels better even if they both can take quite a beating. Also I completely switched to writing with fountain pens and the Leuchtturm paper can handle those much better. I even prefer the overall feeling of the Dingbats notebooks, the cover feels amazing, they look great but they just come in one variety of paper which is very cream and yellowish coloured which doesn't look great with all this colourful inks I tend to use. However, I vote for Leuchtturm, in my eyes they clearly outperform Moleskine.
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I just ordered the leuchtturm 1917 but i think i’m gonna cancel it tbh and get Archer and Olive’s instead. They have thicker pages
I find simple ballpoints are best w/ Moleskine.
I have tried a number of cheaper notebooks that amazon sells. The Amazon Basic notebook is significantly cheaper but it’s hardcover falls apart extremely quickly. The one of the notebooks I tried that performed the best was actually Chinese Paperage notebook. I got a plain unruled “burgundy” color notebooks.
Totally agree with Amazon Basic hardcover falling apart!
Hope you make more notebook review videos.
Hello, 😢I am looking for a notebook to write and gift it to someone special. The thing is, I want all my writings to be lasting forever. I have no idea what kind of notebook should I buy, or the perfect pem for it. Anyone in here could help me to choose the best archival type notebook?m
I want a lay flat notebook. What would be best for that?
Check out the Midori: Review here 💁♂️ ua-cam.com/video/uFV0rsQIS04/v-deo.htmlsi=wU3QnFtULF3ODDKI
Thanks for sharing 🌻
You are very welcome!
Good info. 👍
Moleskine is the best if you’re into soft cover journals. Their soft covers are amazing especially on their XL sized journals
I want to recommend you my favorite pen for writing: Faber Castel Speedx 7
Thank you for recommending the pen, even the name sounds cool!
@@theelliotchan hehe please let me know if you like it :D
Try Rhodia its the better version of the Leuchtturm. I used the 1917 untill I found the Rhodia.
The Endless recorder should also be good as it uses Tomoe river paper like the midori inserts
No Rhodia I've found has page numbers, printed index and two ribbons. What makes it better?
@Kate
There's Rhodia Goalbook with ribbons and numbered page.
I got a £2 notebook from Tiger.
Does the trick, and I don't see the point in spending £20 on a Moleskin notebook of the same size.
Nice video ! Thanks :)
You are very welcome! Thank you for the comment!
I much prefer the soft cover Moleskine notebooks. Their hard cover ones don’t feel as premium somehow, especially when compared to a Leuchtturm. The pages in the plain notebooks are also nicer than the lined ones for some reason. Soft cover plain Moleskine’s are lovely.
Do you have tips how to use a notebook for writers?
I do! I hope to work on a video about it soon. However, while you're here, if you are using your notebook for more than one purpose, I recommend using bold symbols in the margin to help you identify what it was you were writing there (ex. a # can mean ideating and a * can mean drafting) this will be useful when you go back and start transcribing, so you won't waste time transcribing something that you were just ideating. Also put the date down every time you write. Thanks for this comment!
@@theelliotchan thank you ❤️
I'm a new writer and your tips will help me a lot to organize myself.
Nice video! Very well explained-btw it is pronounced as loysht toorm ( light tower in german)
These kinds of notebooks seem pretty small for me.
I'd go for Rhodia, unless you need plain white paper instead of ivory.
which pen do you prefer to use in your daily work in your lenchtturm book
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Pentel EngerGel is my go-to
Here's the Amazon link: amzn.to/3txIFBF
I think Baron Fig is a fantastic brand that you should try.
Thank you for the recommendation!
@@theelliotchan I just got into journaling as a part of my resolution, and Baron Fig has proven to be leaps and bounds better than Moleskin and for 20 dollars starting, the price is right.
00:00 📝 All writers should have a physical notebook, even if they primarily write on a computer, for jotting down ideas.
00:24 📘 Moleskine and Leuchtturm 1917 are popular choices for quality notebooks, with similar price points.
01:14 📚 Moleskine Classic Collection plain notebook is designed for travelers, with 240 plain pages, a built-in travel experience section, and a bookmark.
03:50 📓 Leuchtturm 1917 notebook offers 251 dotted pages, numbered pages, table of contents, and two string bookmarks, making it feature-rich.
05:10 🖊️ The performance of different pens on these notebooks varies; the BIC ballpoint pen surprisingly performed well, while the erasable gel pendisappointed.
07:25 🖋️ Ink bleed-through and ghosting are factors to consider; Leuchtturm 1917 showed slightly better performance in containing ink.
09:38 💰 Leuchtturm 1917 provides better value for writers compared to Moleskine, considering its features, price, and ink performance.
I would suggest you upgrade to the all mighty Tomoe river paper. Leuchtturm is great; Moleskine is that to take color from your ink.....
....but of course this is Only if your'e a "fountain pen" user.
This helps with the word Leuchtturm: ua-cam.com/video/PwkM13su6-w/v-deo.html
My experience with Moleskins is not very good either 😅 It has poor binding and the paper is quite too thin for gel pen or fountain pen.
Leuchtturm is THE GOAT
i love how he pronounces leuchturm
you prounounce it loichtturm
I subscribed just because your name is Elliot💪
That's a great reason! Thank you! 🙌
Really?
It's pronounced loyce-trum (German for lighthouse) and people call it mole-skin, but it's an Italian word, and their CEO pronounces it mole-uh-skee-nuh.
Not exactly... Its more like "l-oi-sh-t-t-ou-rm"
Your moleskine seems to be for urban sketching I think
In my line of business, "pen test" stands for "penetration test" and you need an official "permission to attack". Look it up.
😂😂
And to you Cali is not a state then I guess ;)
My German ears were shocked when I heard "lectrum". Word means Lighthouse ;>
"I never use a notebook in any logical way". That's EXCATLY why you need a table of content. A table of content brings order to the chaos of a notebook 😎
the problem with this kind of reviews is .... the youtubers don't know how to write, don't even know how to hold the pen. This kind of notebooks are made for writing properly with the properly pen....fountain pen ink is based on water not alcohol like the other pens by the way.
I am a big fan of Rhodia
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Pronounced both wrong though
You pronounce "Leuchtturm" something like "lectrum", which is totally wrong. Actually, "eu" in German is pronounced like "oi" (like e.g in "foible", "moisture"). The "ch" is hard to describe, since something similar does not exist in English AFAIK. It is similar to Greek "X" ("Chi"), which is a kind of hissing sound. And "Leuchtturm" actually means "lighthouse" (taken literally, it would mean "shine-tower").
I love both of these notebooks. I personally don’t use the page numbers. I found that I felt like I had to number the pages and it took away from my experience. So I personally prefer moleskine. I also write with a mechanical pencil instead of pens. I’m a huge nice mechanical pencil enthusiast. So I just like that experience. Also my moleskine actually fits in the cover I like to use better than the 1917 (I didn’t even both trying to spell the name it’s too hard for me. Lol) in any case both are great notebook just find the the one best for your work flow. In my opinion neither is better than the other. It all depends on the one using it.
Moleskine is terrible, especially for fountain pens.
Get a Midori MD or Tomoe River notebook instead. There is also a much better 120 gsm version of the Leuchtturm1917.
Yes Leuchtturm is def better quality than the Moleskine.
Use a pencil!
Moleskins fall apart. Leuchtturms don't. No brainer.
Seriously, what is it with notebooks having these ridiculously thin papers??
1:23 Jesus Christ! $24 for something you can pick up at the Dollar Tree for $1.25, those black & white "marble composition books.
they are nothing like each other, it is like comparing eating a steak to chewing on a piece of cardboard
0:00 to 0:03 what was that? “All writers Lll notebooks” im not sure what i heard
😂 "Need" lol
@@theelliotchan oh whoops. Sorry
Get serious an professional and pay attention to detail - the product name
LEUCHTTURM hahahaha your pronounciation! At first I thougt you talk about a brand I never heard of before. Hahaha. Please look in Google for the German translation of lighthouse and check how it sounds in German, oki? ;-D
Hahaha 😂 this comment taught me more German than any other comment so far! Danke lol!!
In Elliot's defense: To the rest of us, most German words look like game-winning, world-champion Scrabble entries. I mean, what other language can boast of words like "Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän"? Would that even fit on a Scrabble board? Maybe Germans tape multiple boards together when they play(??)
If you use fountain pens, Moleskine is a complete waste of money. Junkiest paper on the market for fountain pens. Even Leuchtturm1917 paper is NOT premium fountain pen paper. For this, you need Tomoe River, preferably 68gsm, Clairefontaine, or Rhodia. Or one of several hard to get European or Japanese made notebooks. Leuchtturm1917 is simplky way down the list of the best fountain pen papers.
Thanks for the recommendations for fountain pen notebooks! My fountain pen had become so leaky I haven't been able to use it in a while. But I've heard a lot of good things about Tomoe River and Rhodia!
@@theelliotchan Do you know if you can buy these brands in the uk?
@@TheEnglishrose27 yep, both have UK websites you can purchase from.
@James Ritchie
Apica premium CD notebook has the best paper to handle any wet inks with almost no ghosting at all. Sadly, it comes with whooping price tag.
not the right pronounciation.....Leu... is said like LOI....CH sounds like a long soft k.....leucht turm....so easy...😃 ..the best notebooks are from montblanc...best for writing with my parker duofold
Moleskeine is totally overpriced and is just a brand name ut their books are poor