Aliens vs Predator: Requiem: Deusdaecon Reviews
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This week we finish the film industries attempt to scrape the bottom of the Aliens vs Predator barrel, with requiem.
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"That's crazy, the government doesnt lie to people."
I remember being in the theater, everyone started laughing
Same
That happened when I saw it too. It was my favorite scene.
Came here to say exactly this. Height of Bushism era.
@zeratulcraft yeah it sure has gotten better in the latest era...
My biggest complaint about this film is the lack of lighting... Every night scene or underground scene were all so dark there was no way to see what was happening.
Wolfe cleans up the Xenomorph mess. He's there to make sure the planet is useful as a hunting ground. But if he makes other messes, that's not in his job description.
I ordered Wolfes clean up service to clean my garage, and everything he did was putting a bunch of acid on the roof and watched it all disolve.
In his defense, you really should've specified.
Appreciate you narrating the action in each scene because literally can't see shit.
On the topic of the predaliens blood, ive heard that predators blood act as a base to neutralize the acid blood, so its possible that in cross breeding them the blood isnt acidic anymore
It's a miracle that both Alien and Predator franchises survived after this travesty.
They were awesome enough franchise to do so
Alien was dead on arrival, on the other hand every Predator movie is amazing
Sir Chris No.
whos mans is this?
I disagree on the Predalien. A creature that has the tenacity, fierceness, and speed of a Xenomorph combined with the enhanced strength and durability of a Yujia? That's frightening. The Predators see the Predalien as an abomination and a dishonor.
23:59-24:03 Spoilers, they are. Personally, I think this would've made more sense if they got a hold of Wolf's wrist computer, considering it has more uses than just as a weapon. This concept was used again in Predator: Concrete Jungle, and that game started shoving in connections to the Alien series near the end.
This movie has a ton of small 'amazing' things. like with the writings on Wolf's mask, the concept of honoured Elder Predators that willingly give up on the glory and honor of the hunt, in order to become a guardian instead to others honor and to 'clean up the messes' made by other predators, so to speak.
Fun fact, the first draft killed off the Predalien like five pages in, no joke.
What
Yeah In the first 5 pages of the 1st draft Off the script the predalien gets killed by a regular xenomorph.
Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.
Rule one of making a sci-fi horror film- put kids in danger, but NEVER EVER EVER show them getting jacked up, hurt, or die on-screen.
The Blob (1988): "F*ck the rules"
Requiem really does work as this movies subtitle, as it's the death of this film franchise.
I think the most tragic scene in this movie is the part where the predalien gets into the pregnant moms' ward
Tragic? Try disgusting
Nah.. it’s definitely when the blond gets killed before the brother gets laid...
What about a movie with half predator half humaN hybrid
@@thelonewolf2476 I think that may have been what the directors here were going for: PredAlien infects a pregnant human, and produces a try-hybrid of some sort. In the hands of more adroit filmmakers, this could have been an intriguing if not disturbing development. Here though, it all just came off as exploitative and desperate to shock
This was one of the worst films I've ever seen. And I don't say that lightly. This trainwreck had a million cookie-cutter 'characters' who the film eventually can't seem to get rid of fast enough. I love when all the spare ones get rounded up near the end and the film literally shrugs as the military bomb them, just to tie up those loose ends.
And the fact only women get 'impregnated' is demeaning, considering a big deal about Alien in general was that it pushed the body-horror stereotypically pushed on women, onto men too.
But never mind. This is a stupid, lazy, stock slasher movie using licenses it didn't need.
I remember seeing this in US theaters, at the time there was the massive National Guard recruitment ad with the song Citizen Soldier. Just thinking how there was that big recruitment ad before a movie where a National Guard unit gets wiped out rather pointlessly.
It would have been awesome to have a group of Predators that need to be bloodied to have a Hunt on a world controlled by Xenomorphs. Have the story be a fight for survival and would make sense to have some predators suck and die due to being inexperienced.
You know this makes sense if we suppose that wolf is supposed to work as part of a clean up crew, but figured out after the fact that things had gotten complicated.
One thing in the comics AVP the Yautia are resistant to the xeno's acid blood to a far degree
I guess the Engineers did also create the Yautjas as by means to level the playing field against Xenomorphs.
I remember loving this as a kid...I’m sad it doesn’t hold up...nor does the lighting that hurts my happiness in the theater watching it.
Love all your reviews. I’ve watched them all multiple times. Please review Species, The Arrival (1996) and The Crazies
4 things:
1) I absolutely LOVE your reviews. Seriously, you're badass.
2) I am fairly sure Wolf shot the creepy guy to save the little girl because creepy guy was threatening her. In Predator 2, the predator refused to kill the pregnant lady. Some kind of "children are innocent/sacred" mentality, maybe?
3) The Predalien isn't just made up for this movie. It was established in the expanded universe back in 1999, I believe.
4) Lastly, I think this movie was so gratuitous and over-the-top because the original was a very neutered version of both franchises and everyone threw a fit over it.
I wouldn't say I'm a massive fan of this movie, but I enjoyed it and understand that it was a meatgrinder for the sake of being just that. No plot to truly care about, just a bunch of dead bodies and shock value.
Timothy Shurley I think the preference for saving children might actually be more to do with keeping a renewable supply of prey on prey worlds. Just a theory though.
That's exactly what I was going to say. It's like how hunters try to not kill pregnant animals, or young animals. If you kill everything before it has a chance to reproduce, then you won't have anything to hunt.
@@jayb0g Wolfe has trophies back at his home early in the film, so he is a hunter. Maybe not currently. Also he still came up in that hunter/warrior culture and I doubt he is completely divorced from those practices.
"That's crazy! The government doesn't lie to people!"
Ha! Ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ahhh... What a great laugh. The government doesn't lie to people. Oh, man. Please say that again so I could laugh some more at the real-life irony.
The "no monsters" jump was pretty fun though.
I believe this film is to poorly lit, I can barely see anything in most of this footage
With the Predalien impregnating other humans, it wasn't the filmmakers making crap up because it's a new creature, it was supposed to be their way of answering the question of how a Queen creates her hive and army, it even has a similar head to a Queen. Of course, they failed miserably at expanding the mythology.
I was extremely confused by this review, until I realized I was mixing this movie up with The Predator, which really doesn't speak well for either of them.
don't worry ill get to that one soon enough
@@deusdeaconReviews The Predator made the AvP films look like Academy Award winners...
18:27 hold up, they made it clear at least 1 of them got messed up, so yeah
Honestly, to me, the killing of everyone and anyone was one of the few things I liked about this movie. Aliens wouldn't care who they're killing or impregnating, so it's good to see it in action. They're essentially the perfect killing machines, so eliminating every other form of life makes sense, even if they're children.
I'm not trying to be an annoying "actually" guy but the first alien vs predator "actually" made more money than any film in either franchise. I know that's horribly sad but its expected as the curse of Paul ws Anderson. His shit makes green
James Moseley damn why didn't they hire him again we could be at avp 4 by now lok
James Moseley also the fact that it's a VS film so you get fans of both franchises pulling green. I don't know for a fact but I'm sure the highest grossing Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street film is Freddy vs. Jason
I think you're right. In fact, the first Avp is suspicious. Segourney Weaver was adamant that she would not do an alien vs predator, but a year before Freddy vs Jason, she was slated for a fifth alien film with James Cameron writing it and Ridley Scott directing it. Conveniently, after the success of Freddy vs Jason, that plan was scrapped and they went for Alien vs predator. They produced it in less than 6 months and shat it out in theatres 7 months after fvs
James Moseley At least his shit isn't as bad as this shit. Fuck this movie, just...fuck this stupid fucking piece of shit movie.
the asshole that wrote this movie has the esteemed credits of "armageddon," "ghost-rider," "shaft" (no. not the good one. the remake). He's also slated to write the next four Avatard films: "Avatar Covenant," "Avatar Genisys," "Avatar Revenge of the Sith," and "Avatar Vs. Superman." oops, Freudian slips
Ok that ship at the start... if he had walked away it would have been a good badass thing as he knew exactly how long he had and timed it, weird for a pred to do that for nobody but at least it works. him running though implies he got caught up staring as his new gun (and why not always have 2 if thats a thing, whats the downside?) then realised "oh shit I set a bomb didn't I" making him look like a bit of an idiot.
Amazingly, this movie has a lot in common with the 1987 film "Masters of the Universe" in that you have a story that's supposed to encompass awesome space battles with scifi and magick taking place on an alien world, yet somehow most of the story focuses on stupid teenagers and mundane relationship Scooby-Doo bullshit! >___
i kinda want to see a movie about machiko or other human's who have joined the yautja
If he's going to break through the floor I don't think stealth was an his main idea anymore
another great review, very honest, funny and impartial, as always :) xx
I don't say this often but this movie is really mean spirited. Like the writers were trying to being as edgy as possible.
Mean spirited yes, I completely agree with you there.
I think he killed the guy in the cemetery cuz he threatened 2 non-threating people. Cuz he had no honor. That's what i think.
A pizza boy taking on a xenomorph and Predator and living? I've got something for you to munch on right here, AvP:R.
About the Officer, the Wolf Predator merely left the corpse as a warning, marking his hunting zone. He’s basically saying, “Stay the fuck out or else.” Also, from my interpretation, Wolf did these kind of cleaner operations before, but, in the words of Emile from Halo Reach, this op went to a whole new area of basement dwelling.
Speculation with very little evidence, This is your opinion which is fair enough, but I don’t assume or do the writers work for them, so I’ll maintain my interpretation
@@deusdeaconReviews that’s fair. It also boils down to his mask design and facial scarring. Like I said, he probably did these operations before due to his elite status. However, in reference to your comment, the writers didn’t even reveal much about him. All I got from Wolf was that he was heavily armed, blind in his left eye from a previous hunt, that he was a veteran, and he’s resourceful. Case and point, when he turned his second plasma caster into, what I would call, a miniature plasma blunderbuss. Everything else is left to the imagination. Also, will you review Predators (2010) anytime soon? It’s WAY better than AVPR.
The skinning has to do with a ritual that is done with those a Yautja kills because humans are a prey population to them. Skull collection is for more difficult kills. It has religious significance. The things dissolved have to do with getting rid of the victims of the Predalien initiative because its a mistake that has to be eliminated.
This movie is like a bad dream
Man, I wish they spent more time with the human-hunters angle. A bunch of hunters cum survivalist would've made for a interesting faction, especially sense Wolf is not a pure hunter himself. Seeing a camo-ed human spotting Wolf's landmines or tracking Alien tracks could have been an interesting role reversal. They could even include teenage hunters with their relatives to appeal to the youth, if that would've made them happy.
Other then that, I think wolf was only destroying bodies the Aliens killed due to some protocol involving getting rid of possible virus or other reverse-engineer-able biological stuff. Whatever he kills just died of organ failure, blood loss, or other common conditions. There's no need to care about the humans he kills because nothing harmful can come of their corpses. Then again, by that logic he should have been dissolving the Alien bodies after he killed them, so this idea might be crap.
I always hate it when you have a character who could easily have 2 of their weapon, picks 1 up from another dead person and now apparently be super powered. Is it just considered bad form to use 2 plasma cannons? is Wolf going to lie about using 2 so he doesn't look like a wimp? or is this a huge moment in Predator evolution
"oh crap guys... I just realised, we have TWO shoulders, we could literally have been using 2 plasma cannons the entire time!!"
And then Wolf goes on to be the leader of the Predator race for his insightful thinking, with great ideas like "lets have remote bombs instead of timers", and "If we are using plasma cannons anyway, why not just leave the melee weapons in the past and carry MORE guns". Truly he was a great Predator.
The AvP movies are interesting to me for a few reasons. The first video game I worked on was AvP Extinction an RTS that has little details showing up in both movies. I animated the Predaliens that eventually appear in Requiem and designed the Ancient Preds that show up in the first. I also made some concept art for a giant face-hugger that really, really looks like the one in Prometheus. I thought it a pretty cheap design while I was sketching it. Still fun. I also grew up a stones throw away from Gunnison CO, where Requiem takes place. Besides having trees I don't see much a resemblance to the real place in the movie but there is a great catharsis I feel when it gets nuked at the end. Been planning that one since I was 11. I may be in the minority, putting Requiem above the first AvP movie. I think it may be the PG13 effect which hobbles the first movie so much. We almost fell victim to that on the game with the bosses wanting to eliminate chest-bursting and skull harvesting. I would not have it. No one should. Lemme make clear am not saying this movie is good, more publicly shouting out the reasons I like it regardless which are entirely unique to me. Also I think I may have been inoculated to bad movies by some Mysterious Science in the Theater. Nearly 3000 times, if you catch my drift. I think some of your points including the pregnant women and children victims would have been more effective had they a better artist to frame them. Guilliam, Del Toro or Cronenburg? Someone who knows how to disturb with great skill. A man can wish.
Polybius get out of here with your bullshit
8:04 secs it looked like the batman movies "the show off the muscle body suit heroic" loved it. I love u deusdeacon❤😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Okey so Keitel has been the cleaner twice, Pulp Fiction and Point of No Return.
I can't think of a more egregious and pointless use of source material.
Wolf: God i love cleaning. I may even make more mess so i can keep cleaning 😂
12:25 if this movie goes dye fantasy I’m quitting
Why this film hates pregnant women so much I will never know
Usually people think the alien and predator are cool but it seems like they want to turn people against them by blatantly showing horrifying acts which usually are implied and most viewers are intelligent enough to figure it out without having children being killed.
Wolf is like Michael Myers, he has a specific goal, but he keeps dodging it and killing random people.
Niall Hagan What do you mean Wolf does it "For the sake of references?"
Niall Hagan Oh yeah, ok.
There was an alien vs predator rts game which also featured predaliens, but they were mostly just tougher xenomorphs.
So...what are you going to review for this Halloween
I know its up to the film to explain this, however we have seen that their cloak is effected by external contact, be it water, or bullets, this could be the cloak being damaged as its a feikd, not a camo. That would explain why he didnt cloak until after he got through the roof, as it may have weakened the stealth feild to shuch a point that it would need either repairing, or a sort of reboot
Also, the stringing up someone to play victum is a common hunters trick to lure out preditors, since they will go for the easiest prey, however due to their intellect, this wouldnt work on the aliens or the preditors
wolf, dallas, is there a chains and hoxton involved?
The worst thing about the protagonists (even more than the teen slasher lore), is that they had nothing to do with the main plot. Despite being caught up in the clash between the Aliens and Predator, they have no idea what's going on and don't feel involved in the conflict.
Compare that to the previous Alien and Predator films and even the last AVP film where the protagonists had everything to do with the main story.
Everyone keeps saying the pregnancy scenes are very disturbing but I honestly can't see enough of the film to be disturbed. Like did I just not get the nightvision gene everyone else did???
Im gonna have to disagree on the notion that the predalien is not established. Its numerous in the comics and there are in fact rules. The flaw we have here is that they put the Predalien to work on like you said, teen angst. Its just out of place. And the pregnant women impregnation was a what the fuck that cant be explained. It was literally a more intelligent Xeno with increased strength.
This movie has studio interference written all over it. The basic premise is decent, but all the stock characters and tonal dissonance just ruin anything good about it. Comic fans have wanted to see a predalien for ages, but not like this, not like this.
I loved the movie. Wish I could see it tho
Have you reviewed Alien or Aliens? I can't find them in your list.
Comparing this movie to a teen slasher flick was brilliant and so true!
The bomb wasn't nuclear. It was a MOAB. Largest non-nuclear bomb you can use.
Sames criticisms apply pretty much.
Lol the dates nice
I like these kind of movies where they break some of the modern movies "no go zones" like that kid getting a facehugger in the beginning. I am not a crazed sociopath ,but do let me explain, we are so used to kids not getting killed and other similar kind of cliches,that this actually surprised and shocked me when i watched the movie . EDIT - the same thing with the pregnant female . I like the fact ,and i think a lot of people will agree, that nothing is safe. Ramps up the tension and actually makes the movies less predictable in general. And yeah,Wolf has some kind of "dissolving bodies" fetish -.-
is it just me hearing things or was the radar behind that general making the motion detector bleep
Probably
Yeah they killed it when they decided to add teen drama & angst into this movie that was completely unnecessary I don't need to see teen drama. Or some chick seeing a man she knew from her past & is immediately attracted to him while she is still hooked up with someone else it's like Kelly was waiting to see Dallas again so she can get with him after her husband gets bumped off by an alien. UGGH!
Hey um what's the song in the intro
Wolf had some cool Easter eggs but goddamn was this series bad.
"For the love of God stop standing around looking like a badass and get the hell out of there"
Wolf is all like lu lu lu I'm disappearing stuff cause disappearing stuff is my favorite stuff
Also where did you get your them song from?
its called look at me by Die! She Said, I knew the band and they let me use their music.
Deusdaecon Reviews , great song
I just thought... did they add in a mini-plot about the kid preferring her dad as her mum is hardly home, then solve that arc by killing the dad so now the daughter only has her mother?
I mean that's one way to solve that problem I guess... though it'll probably cause issues later when she ends up in with a live in nanny raising her while her mum is serving.
personally I don’t think she’d want to serve in a military that nearly nuked her in the face, but i guess that just me
@@deusdeaconReviews I guess that solves one problem, though I'm unsure you can get out of the military early by claiming "I was in an alien invasion and you tried to nuke me" as that is more likely to lead to being locked up. It's still kinda shitty to solve the problem of soldiers coming home to kids who don't know them with "but if your partner dies they only have you!"
Just shows how little effort they put into the side stories, then weirdly didn't put much effort into the main thing either.
I know Wolf is a fan favorite amongst the AVP fandom, but personally, I'm mixed about him. The only positive side is his gadgets and his combat skills that fit his character as an Elite, but he's terribly written as he's causing a lot more carnage and damage than what the Xenomorphs did, and he even broke the Honor Code by accidentally killing a civilian, which considers punishment in Yautja society.
And a teen slasher movie about a Xenomorph and Yautja would've been nice if the characters are interesting enough. If you played Until Dawn, you can see this game is more than a generic teen slasher film as it turned out to be a monster movie featuring Wendigos, and you can control a character to keep him/her alive to add more development, and you can only make the killer or monster a lot more interesting, like having a Predator as a Bad Blood since Bad Bloods kill unarmed prey and each other regardless, or a Xenomorph as an escaped prisoner from a crashed alien ship.
the only scary thing in this movie is the 🍕 hanging so dangerously over the counter edge :o
I honestly find it a shame that the only appearance of the Yautja home world is in this movie, pretty much the only good idea for the movie.
The only interesting thing that this movie's got for itself is shit happening at several locations. That was actually a good idea.
The only redeeming quality of this movie is Wolf honestly. The Predator was a legit badass. Had they focused on Wolf overall, this would of been way better.
I hated this movie, not because of the teen drama, not because of the young boy being killed (Hunter's son). No what got me was the maternity ward scene. I used to work in crime scene clean up (Go to college kids!!!) and have seen the aftermath of children that are victimized. That scene made me sick, I walked out on that movie. It effectively ruined my love of the genre.
I watched this movie in 2008 while I was in Iraq. I'd almost forgotten e ery single scene from it by now. Good to see why again.
Your awesome
I think they shouldn't have been so eager to kill the children in this movie. The worst movies I've noticed are child slaughter happy and make me extremely uncomfortable because I have four younger siblings and thinking about something horrible happening to them or any child is a major turn off for me with movies especially this film who does it so often. I get sometimes it happens, but usually in film if a child dies it's carefully done, not here though. 😞😖
Yeah. Pretty cringy.
has anyone noticed theres an odd amount of characters in the alien films called dallas? Alien, covenant, prometheus (i think), avp requiem, any more?
well i know the dallas in this film is a deliberate reference to alien, but theres no dallas in prometheus and covenant though.
i thought i noticed a Dallas in covenant, im not a fan of the prequels so im not to sure, im always hoping for a new film that continues the original 4 to redeem the trainwreck that was alien resurrection, would be cool
Thought this one was wayyyyy better than the first AvP. Mostly because the Predator was done so much better. Also, while the whole thing with the Predalien killing babies and women did disturb me, I guess you could argue that that's the way this creature would be. Lions don't really have rules for which animals they kill. It's doesn't make distinctions, there is no reasoning, nothing you can do to escape it other than finding a way to kill it.
Just had a thought on the weird teen angst thing as well, why was the girl he likes friends with bullies if she isn't a bully?
I know it's a dumb thing other teen coming of age films do, but it only works in a film setting where the didn't exist until this moment, if they had any sort of history it would imply she often watched them bully people and was on with it, or somehow they hid it from her until right then.
I think he's just making sure the aliens don't spread not making sure people don't know about aliens
Have you ever seen a BAD film of your favorite superheroes?
I still cringe at DareDevil and Spawn.
Mainly, because they both impacted my childhood.
Spawn was hip and cool while DareDevil was badass (mom was a special child therapist, so they had lots of daredevil comics at her office)
Calm down bro, he's simply asking a question on a topic he's interested in.
Okay fair enough, just sounded like you were having a go at him, sorry for the misinterpretation.
Actually yh, that was answered, didn't relise that.
What's the song at the intro
look at me - Die! She Said
I hate that scene with the babies. I regret watching this
The nuke was an attempt to immitate "Resident evil" the film franchise.
same director i believe which he's just bad
Nope according to wikipedia this was directed by the Brothers Strause, which was their first time directing a film unsuprisingly.
A bit late to the party, but still wanted to point out:
Dalla´s love interest totally pulls a 360 on her behavior, her tune, a bit before shes killed off. She kind of fades into the background, with hardly any lines or dialogue anymore, just tagging along and coming across more selfish/stupid. No Idea how long the movie was in production or in what squence the scenes were made, but maybe the actress left the movie half way? (Not that it makes it any better but I found that change in behavior interesting and quiet noticeable).
And a question, is it normal for a "backwater" community in the states to have such huge/wide sewers?
" And a question, is it normal for a "backwater" community in the states to have such huge/wide sewers? " Actually, real life sewers arn't that huge at all, they are really small & really tight, the largest they can get, well width wise that is, just take a look at Bishop in the Aliens movie, yeah not much really, if even they are THAT HUGE in this movie, it's more less for chemical plants, industrial plants & things like them, but even they aren't that huge at all, Hollywood makes sewers WAY TO HUGE then of the real life ones, so yeah, so never believes what you see in Hollywood movies....
To add onto what DLSMaster said. The largest sewers in the U.S will fit a person crouched over heavily and in single file when moving through them. When you stop in place. Your basically kneeling or leaning against the wall already.
I know this is a small detail but one that really irritated me. When "hero" soldier mom gets home and just casually hands her little girl her military issue night vision goggles (NVG's) What a crock of shi+. There are 3 items issued before field training or deployment: weapon, NVG's, and a dagger for land navigation. All are sensitive items and 100% accountable at all times and turned in to a locked and secured armory before anyone goes home. Soldier mom would be looking at court marshal for stealing a sensitive item and allowing her child to use them as a toy.
Things like killing kids or animals in a movie *can* be done right, but only when it's written in a way to demonstrate something about the monster or villain the movie is focused on. In this one, it only demonstrates something about the film-makers, and nothing particularly flattering
This movie could have worked if it played like Aliens, stuck the star with capable fighters like the National guard after shit hits the fan.
Heh heh, he said "lady bum"
Do the movie BIRTH with Nickole Kidman
I can see you need to turn up the movie contrast
It's an inherent problem with the movie released, Not a problem with my upload.
fucking hell the avp 1 fights with the predator was way better compared to this