@69assparade Yes, the flat backs cool better than stock. However, the fluid dynamics are so poor that you're killing your lubricant faster. It's like spraying a firehouse at a block wall and expecting it to go up and over the block wall.
@@monsterram6617 OE sheet metal cover. Although it's important to note that although the 4th gen DRW cover performs better than the flat-backs, it still suffers from the lack of airflow that exists behind the diff housing. Deep fins are great but if there's no air flowing over them, they don't do much.
I have worked with alot of heavy equipment over the years. Heating of any fluid to its max or breakdown point shortens life of fluid/oil. If he got the gear oil in that rear end to stay that much lower than stock. It's going to help the gear oil protect better and last longer. Plus extend the life of the parts in the differential. Nice work banks!
Looks awesome. Only thing negative I can see is the possibility of the lower vents getting pugged in mud or debris but even if that happens, this cover is going to lubricate and cool better than anything else I’ve seen. Make one for a Dana 80 and I’m likely in.
It’s very similar to what BMW has on some of there M cars . I guess if you want to take it further is plumb a external cooler and a pump like the Corvette Z06 performance package has. Gail and his crew did a phenomenal job.
We haven't posted the final video yet because our stock is so limited that if we had posted our final video, we'd sell out in one day and we'd too many frustrated customers. So, we're doing what's called a "soft launch".
@@bankspower totally understand! I've watched the series and loved it! I will own the bare aluminum unit! Then paint the "Banks" red! I only put less than 5 thousand miles on in a year... i drive OTR! Then the 6 shooter tuner! Oh, 2017 F250! Hopefully you'll have a rear diff cover coming soon....
@@bankspower Must be a very SOFT launch as you have been promising the last video FOREVER now. You should work on under promising and over delivering instead of over promising and under delivering.
Banks killed it! Yet again, gotta wait for my F250 covers to come out though. I guess the Fiat and Chevys actually need it more though so I understand 🤦♂️ 😝
Banks is a marketing genius! People lining up to give him their money. Very impressive. How many have experienced rear end or axle failures using the OEM cover? My guess is not many, and if it did fail, it wasn't because the fluid was to hot.
On my truck I had a sealant in between the cover and diff. No drain plug either. Also no way to check the level and color of the fluid. That was enough reason for me to buy one. My truck is all banks. I don’t run a tune but have their monster exhaust, intercooler, intake elbow and ram air intake. More horsepower and lower EGTs. I did this for engine longevity. I also have coolant and oil bypass filtration and an external full flow transmission oil filter, deep pan and ported shift solenoids. Ford 6 liter is 18 years old and 143,00o miles. I tow an 8800 lb 35’ trailer. I’ve had no engine related failures except for an EGR valve under warranty, and at 17 years, a mass airflow sensor. I’ll keep lining up to by Banks, as I plan on keeping my truck for a long time.
@@rodgraff1782 Every cover has a way to check the level and the color of the fluid. You remove the fill plug and stick your pinky finger in the hole. About one knuckle down you should he hitting the top of your oil level. Pull your finger out and inspect the color if you desire. This is a nice cover, no question, and people who like to modify their rides as a hobby should enjoy it. I just think its overpriced and your money could be better spent elsewhere. But these will probably sell like hot cakes. Like I said , the man knows how to make money.
You have to watch Gales vids on comparing diff covers and see why he designed this cover. This thing is an engineering marvel. If they make one for a 9.75 ford diff I am buying one.
The HMMWV tranfer case does this with a heat exchanger in the transfer case that carries transmission fluid from the radiator to keep the transfer case fluid at a stable temperature.
Might not be a problem for the suburban cowboy that doesnt haul anything with their 100K luxury sedan with a bed. But to a commercial driver driving 100-200k mi year loaded. Something like this is actually worth it.
I like the design and the thought and research Banks put into this. Have come to expect this from Banks along with the premium price. Surprised there is no port for a temperature probe as there is with Mag-Hytec. Also share other's concern about lifting with with a floor jack at the differential housing for tire rotations and suspension work. But having a drain plug and a sight gauge and not having to mess with RTV encourages the regular 15,000 mile maintenance called for on my RAM 3500.
@@adidas4275I have the Sterling version of this banks cover on my 2006 ford F250. There is a plug for a temp sensor on mine And there is a flat spot in the middle that you probably could Jack up on the scoops are off to the side on mine. I’m not a fan of jacking the differential.
@@adidas4275I have the Sterling version of this banks cover on my 2006 ford F250. There is a plug for a temp sensor on mine And there is a flat spot in the middle that you probably could Jack up on the scoops are off to the side on mine. I’m not a fan of jacking the differential.
Mine has a plug for a sensor (1/8”), and a flat spot in the middle. The scoops are off to the side, but I would still use a rubber cushion between the diff and Jack.
It seems a bit pricey for me. But well thought out and designed in my opinion. I like the extra cooling and the 3 plugs for servicing and to be able to see the fluid.The o-ring gasket is a good idea as well. Seems quite robust, I think it would be favourable especially for people who would be doing a lot of towing/hauling. (:
Oddly enough yes this is a useful product for hotshotters but Ive run for for over 450k miles in 5 years on my stock 03 ram 3500 diff cover/diff with zero issues. Change the oil and use the OEM recommend fluid and things wont break.
I watched all the testing he did on other after market covers. All they did was add some bling to the rear end. Most made the fluid hotter and aerated the oil. Both are bad for the gears and bearings. Also the break away sections will not cause any leaking so you will not be stranded on the trail or road.
Where did he ever publish the numbers. How do you know it make fluid hotter. That was pure speculation. The fluid got aerated with the stock cover as well. I also watched the whole series.
But cooling would not be a problem in the north. Being its cooler to begin with. In fact they the OEM's are adding heaters to the rear dif> And you can make a custom built plug for it. Or maybe banks can.
Dose this mean and I'll have to Jack the rear axle twice put it on stands? Les Schwab and most other tire/maintenance shops not using a lift, just throw a Jack under both of the front a arms And 1 Jack under the diff when rotating my tires will this compromise the Integrity of the Breakaway portion of diff cover , it is supporting all the weight on the 1/4" thick edges of the jack pad/cup?
The time savings alone in changing diff fluid is worth it. If you regularly launch a boat...that’s a fluid change when you’re dunking the rear below the hubs. This would be a no brainer. If you’ve ever had to clean off the the black goop from a diff cover...the $400 seems worth it to me!
@@speterbilt Did you see the data? The cover pays for itself. And, no, it's not for mall crawlers. Now, they'll probably love it, but it wasn't designed for them.
jeremy kohler I don’t think they meant for this to be hitting the trails with. This was designed to be more of a on the road deal for the heavy haulers and long commuters. I could see hot shot companies buying these up quick.
doesnt take rocket appliances for someone to figure out the stock internal shape is the best and just add fins to the outside surface. good thing someone finally did it, rest are just posers. wonder how much that banks logo adds to the casting though.
Sadly they don't make it for my application!!!! I'd happily buy one in a blink of an eye if they did!!! 2016 Ford F350 4x4 crew cab Dually 4.30 Gears...
aside from catching air like he said but also the chance to catch anything laying in the road , like say a chunk of semi tire or such. maybe not but it just looks like those extended corners could cause a problem.
Well be ordering about 200 of these when released. Our fleet will benefit a ton from these. It’ll save us money and time. It’s aluminum as well so it should dissipate heat better as well.
No doubt this is a fine working product however the best design would be to have the entire differential mainly round and dimpled like a golf ball. The dimpled surface would pull the air from the front around the curved sides to the back where fins could still be implemented without a ram air system. Making the diff perfectly round and slightly bigger with a dimpled surface would actually make it more aerodynamic than a standard one.
Break away, yikes I cringe just thinking of breaking a almost $400 dollar cover. Long haul trucks can use this not me I see to much off road use to spend that kind of money. Kudos to Banks engineering to reinvent the diff cover though allot of R&D went Into this. We all no Gale is a perfectionist awesome Mr Banks.
I hope with Mr. Banks does the AMC20 cover for my Hummer, he remembers that our diffs are upside down. Those scoops would be up in the air on my diffs.
Gail says plainly many times the axle manufacturers knew what they were doing with the stock cover shape, which is why he just improved the stock design
BD at least try to be better than stock by increasing capacity but when you look at it and the way oil move in the diff. Its probably making the diff run hotter not cooler
I think you made a good point. Change the differential fluid at regular intervals. No problems. I think a cheap cover that has a fill plug and a drain plug to help with maintainance is desirable. I hate using the stock filler hole.
If you service regularly and use the the truck for commuting you won't need this cover. I only start my duramax to pull my fifth wheel travel trailer or my race trailer so I think it would be worthwhile. Servicing would be more convenient as well
@@JonLIsALoser I have the aluminum one for mine as well. I think I picked it up for around $100 a few years ago. The Banks one looks really similar with the exception of the air scoops. I do like the clear sight plug for looking at fluid level. I wonder if you can get just the sight plug.
1. How does this improve fuel mileage? 2. What is the ideal oil temperature? 3. Would this be of any benefit to a non-towing vehicle that runs 100,000 miles per year?
@@frankiehumphreyiv5972 I have watched all the videos. 1. How is the 1.5% achieved? He dosen't answer that question.. 2. Unless I missed it, he dosen't say what the ideal temperature is either. I'm trying to determine if this would be of benefit to a non towing vehicle. Does the increase in fuel economy come from less oil drag? Will the cover cool too much to actually cause less than optimal oil temperatures?
I’ll be buying one.... I’ve done my research..after you guys did... is it critical? Nah.... but there is a reason engineers made diff covers the shape they did,, kinda rounded inside for maximum flow and and least resistance inside..and if you want bling... these are engineered better
They have only been doing r&d for around a year. And their test truck was a dodge. So of course the axle they make first is going to be the dodge/GM axle.
Cooler oil = longer engine life. I never thought the square back covers would work. Too much working of the fluid. People spend 250-400$ on covers that don’t do anything better than stock. This cover works, it’s worth it compared to the competition. It’s the difference between a engineer and testing vs throwing something together.
1. Performance engineering is always somewhat expensive. 2. This is not just for show or weekend warriors, it appeals to Hot shot drivers that drive over 100K per year and regularly pull loads weighing 20K pounds. 3. Gale Banks has been in business for over 50 years and develops products for major vehicle manufacturers. He tests the shit out of his products and documents it.
Banks never finished their testing. Prove it before you sell it. If pinion bearing lubrication is a main issue then please explain a reverse pinion Dana 44? How about the lubrication to the carrier bearings or better yet hub bearings how long do they last? Or the oil mastication that happens in manual gear box. I'm not saying it doesn't work but prove it. The dyno is one thing but a real world test would be a trailer with a 10 to 12K load up hill in the heat of summer. Real world testing would have a truck at stock ride height not 6 feet off of the ground with a fan blowing. How about a lawnmower engine that has splash lubrication and it runs for years. Hypoid gear oil is designed to cling to gear teeth. Gear oil has extremely high surface tension and shear strength. The bearing clearance in an engine is an example of how little oil it takes to lubricate an engine or gear box for that matter. Very little oil film is necessary for proper lubrication. Just a thought.......let the vitriol begin
He stopped short of just saying every aftermarket cover is a POS. I think someone made a phone call, He sure piped up real fast. For me...To much engineering for a cover. I will keep my stock one and spend the $400.00 else where on the Truck.
HOW DO YOU KNOW BANKS DID NOT FINISH THE TESTING ??DID YOU VERIFY TO FIND OUT ?? I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY CAN PROVE ALL THEIR DATA. NO ONE DOES AS MUCH R AND D AS THEY DO ACCEPT MAJOR CAR MANUFACTURERS..THEY ALWAYS LEAD THE WAY IN DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS..RESEARCH WHAT I SAID. GALE BANKS IS A GENIOUS.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 Then why start with all the fanfare with videos of a truck on a dyno with an anemometer measuring air flow and temperature readings. With bragging about all the effort and money being put into testing. Make a few videos then crickets...... . Next there's a product with a nice power point presentation. Prove it is all I'm saying. The vehicle manufacturers use real world environments. Banks set train in motion so follow through with.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 im over 400k on my stock rearend. With stock cover. All original hardware save for wheel bearings. Welding rig, tows my camper thru the mountains mutliple times a year....im over the gvwr, and have been for....8yrs now. In fact, gear oil has only been changed twice.....yes, twice in over 400k miles. So....what is the benefit of this cover again?
I don’t think that it will catch enough grime to completely block flow. It would be a good idea to check that when you spend a good bit of time off road.
@@rayflores8408 AWSOME buddy I was going to do the same thing. I've literally had to work every waking minute this week just got off and your the first thing on my inbox..Thanks my man
Too many design flaws with this part. After 8 Months I've had this part; 12 Pt fasteners stripped, Fill plug not stainless or zinc coated (rusted), O-ring gasket leaking, Ram air scoop cracked, low grade aluminum pitting (corroded), Powder coating peeling off, zero improvement in fuel economy. Stick with the stock cover.
That's not the whole story. The fluid dynamics are so poor in the flat back covers it costs you money to use them. And, they don't get the lubricant up and over to the pinion as well as the stock cover.
@@bankspower I've seen the videos and agree with the principles you've explained. What are the side effects of excessively cold gear oil? I live in Montana and -20 degrees Fahrenheit is common in winter my question is wood the additional cooling prohibit 75-140 from reaching operating temperature in those severely cold ambient temperatures? I've seen a lot of flak in the comments section here how about you not releasing your video first. I think it's a good way to do it in this case so that you can address these kinds of practical application questions that are going to come up in the video that you do publish. Cheers love your products manner of thinking as you've done always shrug off the negativity and do what they say can't be done. I know I sure as hell am with my chasing of your land speed record in a first gen Dodge.
@@kylevanwinkle2081 I was wondering how deep into the comments I would have to go to read a Ford driver asking "wheres the one for the Ford" and someone saying "in the junk yard" or something similar. Lol. Didn't have to go far! I love it.
BY THE NUMBERS!
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69assparade the problem of oil not reaching the pinion bearings still exists with the flat covers. Also the extra gear oil is not free.
@69assparade Yes, the flat backs cool better than stock. However, the fluid dynamics are so poor that you're killing your lubricant faster. It's like spraying a firehouse at a block wall and expecting it to go up and over the block wall.
By stock are they referring to the OE sheet metal cover or the AAM aluminum cover that comes on the 4th gen DRW?
They didn't designate that in the date so I'm not positive.
@@monsterram6617 OE sheet metal cover. Although it's important to note that although the 4th gen DRW cover performs better than the flat-backs, it still suffers from the lack of airflow that exists behind the diff housing. Deep fins are great but if there's no air flowing over them, they don't do much.
Gale Banks is a Diesel Genius- he puts the work in to back his claims up with facts!!!
The 5 dislikes are all probably from the makers of the flat back covers lol
You don't need this expensive cover
@@speterbilt I totally agree. Would be nice to have a sight glass in the stock cover lol.
Sex is also not a necessity but damn if I don't like it allot! Lol
You don't need a bed or toilet paper either.
Zachary Cummins I sleep on the floor and use a bidet.
Leave it to banks to come out with something that works. Period. Awsome engineering. Awsome
Actual diesel products with facts and tests backing them and not hype advertised and aimed at teenagers.
Are those the customers that buy them?
I have worked with alot of heavy equipment over the years. Heating of any fluid to its max or breakdown point shortens life of fluid/oil. If he got the gear oil in that rear end to stay that much lower than stock. It's going to help the gear oil protect better and last longer. Plus extend the life of the parts in the differential. Nice work banks!
oil doesnt breakdown. It gets dirty. Class dismissed
@@Mach141 thanks professor!
How awesome is wade! He puts out a finished product video before gale banks does!!!
Only the best for you! Banks did help make this video possible by letting us get our hands on it.
@@thoroughbreddiesel It is the least they could do since they refuse to put out a final video.
@@roosduster "refuse" you're dramatic and cringey af
This is an absolutely F%^&ing awesome solution for heavy load on road use!
Mag hytec and every other diff cover maker just put a diaper on to watch their sales disappear
😆😆😆
I watched every video in the banks series. So much technology went into this, the competitors stand no chance.
Looks awesome. Only thing negative I can see is the possibility of the lower vents getting pugged in mud or debris but even if that happens, this cover is going to lubricate and cool better than anything else I’ve seen.
Make one for a Dana 80 and I’m likely in.
It shouldn't get plugged unless you are a farmer pulling ag trailers in a field.
It's meant for haulers. Not off roading.
Highly recommend, this cover added 285 HP to my 94 power stroke 👍👍👍
THEBLOWJOBJUDGE it might raise it up to 287... hauling ass and saving gas at the same time!
I dont think and old power stroke even makes 285hp
Imagine if u had the tow mirrors out also....😨
Well if he had busted his old diff cover then this new one would in a sense add 285hp
All for the Stupid Ridiculous price of $400!
Absolute engineering brilliance
Waited so long for this since there last video in the series! Badass!
It’s very similar to what BMW has on some of there M cars . I guess if you want to take it further is plumb a external cooler and a pump like the Corvette Z06 performance package has. Gail and his crew did a phenomenal job.
Nissan does as well, there's aluminium fins on the tow package trucks
Watched Mr Banks's videos on developing this diff cover. I can't wait to get one on my 07 F-150!!!
LOL...
It’s probably only going to be available for heavy duty trucks.
Cool! It's done! I was following along on the Banks channel, but didn't see them get close to finishing.
Am I missing something? I don't remember seeing a finished product video on GB's site.
Yeah, I've been watching for an update on the Banks channel, but nothing. This is the first I've seen it show up!
I believe dmaxryno has one of these covers
We haven't posted the final video yet because our stock is so limited that if we had posted our final video, we'd sell out in one day and we'd too many frustrated customers. So, we're doing what's called a "soft launch".
@@bankspower totally understand! I've watched the series and loved it! I will own the bare aluminum unit! Then paint the "Banks" red! I only put less than 5 thousand miles on in a year... i drive OTR! Then the 6 shooter tuner! Oh, 2017 F250! Hopefully you'll have a rear diff cover coming soon....
@@bankspower Must be a very SOFT launch as you have been promising the last video FOREVER now. You should work on under promising and over delivering instead of over promising and under delivering.
Banks killed it! Yet again, gotta wait for my F250 covers to come out though. I guess the Fiat and Chevys actually need it more though so I understand 🤦♂️ 😝
its fine, when your ford comes outta the shop they will have diff covers available
Banks is a marketing genius! People lining up to give him their money. Very impressive. How many have experienced rear end or axle failures using the OEM cover? My guess is not many, and if it did fail, it wasn't because the fluid was to hot.
On my truck I had a sealant in between the cover and diff. No drain plug either. Also no way to check the level and color of the fluid. That was enough reason for me to buy one. My truck is all banks. I don’t run a tune but have their monster exhaust, intercooler, intake elbow and ram air intake. More horsepower and lower EGTs. I did this for engine longevity. I also have coolant and oil bypass filtration and an external full flow transmission oil filter, deep pan and ported shift solenoids. Ford 6 liter is 18 years old and 143,00o miles. I tow an 8800 lb 35’ trailer. I’ve had no engine related failures except for an EGR valve under warranty, and at 17 years, a mass airflow sensor. I’ll keep lining up to by Banks, as I plan on keeping my truck for a long time.
@@rodgraff1782 Every cover has a way to check the level and the color of the fluid. You remove the fill plug and stick your pinky finger in the hole. About one knuckle down you should he hitting the top of your oil level. Pull your finger out and inspect the color if you desire. This is a nice cover, no question, and people who like to modify their rides as a hobby should enjoy it. I just think its overpriced and your money could be better spent elsewhere. But these will probably sell like hot cakes. Like I said , the man knows how to make money.
You have to watch Gales vids on comparing diff covers and see why he designed this cover. This thing is an engineering marvel. If they make one for a 9.75 ford diff I am buying one.
Stock cover, drill n tap to run lines pumped to a trans cooler with fan. Sounds easy enough..
The HMMWV tranfer case does this with a heat exchanger in the transfer case that carries transmission fluid from the radiator to keep the transfer case fluid at a stable temperature.
What would you do for a pump? I've thought about doing the same with a stock cover.
@@p.t.anderson1593 MAybe try whatever pumps the remote turbo are using
Ha Ha and don't forget the AirDog filter system that removes all of the air from the gear oil.
sicsam1
Cool idear
The resolution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
as if these trucks weren't expensive enough
I'm with you on that 😮
Sounds like you didn’t watch their test series on all the aftermarket diff covers.
Stock cover is better because its stock price and never breaks. Not a performance upgrade.
Might not be a problem for the suburban cowboy that doesnt haul anything with their 100K luxury sedan with a bed. But to a commercial driver driving 100-200k mi year loaded. Something like this is actually worth it.
I like the design and the thought and research Banks put into this. Have come to expect this from Banks along with the premium price. Surprised there is no port for a temperature probe as there is with Mag-Hytec. Also share other's concern about lifting with with a floor jack at the differential housing for tire rotations and suspension work. But having a drain plug and a sight gauge and not having to mess with RTV encourages the regular 15,000 mile maintenance called for on my RAM 3500.
That is a good point. Someone should do a review with lifting with a jack
@@adidas4275I have the Sterling version of this banks cover on my 2006 ford F250. There is a plug for a temp sensor on mine
And there is a flat spot in the middle that you probably could Jack up on the scoops are off to the side on mine. I’m not a fan of jacking the differential.
@@adidas4275I have the Sterling version of this banks cover on my 2006 ford F250. There is a plug for a temp sensor on mine
And there is a flat spot in the middle that you probably could Jack up on the scoops are off to the side on mine. I’m not a fan of jacking the differential.
Mine has a plug for a sensor (1/8”), and a flat spot in the middle. The scoops are off to the side, but I would still use a rubber cushion between the diff and Jack.
Just jack under the shock brackets. Why risk breaking the fins on the cover.
The bank's video is now out.
Big game changer here making me want to get one
It seems a bit pricey for me. But well thought out and designed in my opinion. I like the extra cooling and the 3 plugs for servicing and to be able to see the fluid.The o-ring gasket is a good idea as well. Seems quite robust, I think it would be favourable especially for people who would be doing a lot of towing/hauling. (:
Oddly enough yes this is a useful product for hotshotters but Ive run for for over 450k miles in 5 years on my stock 03 ram 3500 diff cover/diff with zero issues. Change the oil and use the OEM recommend fluid and things wont break.
I hope they create one for anF250 6.0L powerstroke. I would definitely buy one of these covers.
Just go buy a 08 diff cover with bolts for less than $100.
@@paulzumpf7934 where ??
@@hankclingingsmith8707 Junkyard? They're $100 on Amazon. Fits all the Sterling axle (10.25" and 10.5") trucks.
WHERE IS IT MADE
Tons of engineering went into this cover .
It definitely shows. The data we talk about in the video is impressive.
Loved his videos with the clear housing!
And tires ... not to mention the combined amount of knowledge put into this piece of art... more than you think
Tons of engineering has gone into every nuclear power plant that has had a nuclear meltdown also...
Looking forward to other manufacturers to come up with their own curved back covers and similar cooling.
Tu Ho
It’s patented.
When you said you had numbers, I thought you actually tested something. I've already seen Gale's numbers.
I watched all the testing he did on other after market covers. All they did was add some bling to the rear end. Most made the fluid hotter and aerated the oil. Both are bad for the gears and bearings. Also the break away sections will not cause any leaking so you will not be stranded on the trail or road.
Where did he ever publish the numbers. How do you know it make fluid hotter. That was pure speculation. The fluid got aerated with the stock cover as well. I also watched the whole series.
@@paulzumpf7934 ua-cam.com/video/09JsDorR6tw/v-deo.html
Mud and ice catcher for up north
But cooling would not be a problem in the north. Being its cooler to begin with. In fact they the OEM's are adding heaters to the rear dif> And you can make a custom built plug for it. Or maybe banks can.
opossum catcher in California
Dose this mean and I'll have to Jack the rear axle twice put it on stands?
Les Schwab and most other tire/maintenance shops not using a lift, just throw a Jack under both of the front a arms And 1 Jack under the diff when rotating my tires will this compromise the Integrity of the Breakaway portion of diff cover , it is supporting all the weight on the 1/4" thick edges of the jack pad/cup?
Cuuuver....Yeah buddy! It helps to play the video at 1.25 speed.
Yeah its gonna catch alot more than air!
The time savings alone in changing diff fluid is worth it. If you regularly launch a boat...that’s a fluid change when you’re dunking the rear below the hubs. This would be a no brainer. If you’ve ever had to clean off the the black goop from a diff cover...the $400 seems worth it to me!
Well fools and their money soon part ways. Happy purchasing dip shit!
The 14 people who gave this a thumbs down really meant to say "dis I like"
lol
No. This is just a mall crawler cover. You don't need this
@@speterbilt Did you see the data? The cover pays for itself. And, no, it's not for mall crawlers. Now, they'll probably love it, but it wasn't designed for them.
Wonder if this will clear the rear track and sway bar on the 14+ rear coil spring Ram 2500’s?
Ram air sounds good. Till it fills up with mud and or road grime.
Should’ve been on the top of the diff....
@@cumminsman4670 there is no air flow at the top of the diff
Cummins MAN And how the hell would that help?
Or catch it on something in the road or off-road and break the corner off.
jeremy kohler I don’t think they meant for this to be hitting the trails with. This was designed to be more of a on the road deal for the heavy haulers and long commuters. I could see hot shot companies buying these up quick.
Wow...$400.00!! Does it come with a "reach around" or at least a Kiss??
@@garrettcooke5566 Yea, anytime I can keep a stealership out of my rear end, is a good day!
I know OMG expensive! 361% more expensive than any other.....take that and buy some Amsoil diff fluid.
$250 for a wig cut as a high & tight or &150extra for one that duse what it is supposed to do.
@@Lawman-196 It actually comes with 4 qts of Amsoil
I wish they make front one
& make for semi truck all diffs
doesnt take rocket appliances for someone to figure out the stock internal shape is the best and just add fins to the outside surface. good thing someone finally did it, rest are just posers. wonder how much that banks logo adds to the casting though.
Fuckin way she goes
Marc Monson The rest are just water under the fridge
about 200 dollars
Sadly they don't make it for my application!!!! I'd happily buy one in a blink of an eye if they did!!! 2016 Ford F350 4x4 crew cab Dually 4.30 Gears...
Plus you forgot lifetime warranty banks said so himself
Limited lifetime warranty. Whatever that means?
No he didn't
Great video!
Thanks!
aside from catching air like he said but also the chance to catch anything laying in the road , like say a chunk of semi tire or such. maybe not but it just looks like those extended corners could cause a problem.
He said they were break away if it hit something they would break away and not affect the rest of the cover so you wont lose any oil
Banks has products that improve performance.
Other manufacturers lose performance or are poorly engineered. Thank you Banks.
Anything is possible I guess. It seems unlikely that this would happen.
Is there really that much debris on the roads you are driving on?
Gale said if you break it he will give you a new one!
Well be ordering about 200 of these when released. Our fleet will benefit a ton from these. It’ll save us money and time. It’s aluminum as well so it should dissipate heat better as well.
When you're ready give our wholesale dept. a ring
A very trick piece ! 👌👌💪👌👌
Mud scoops nice, very well thought out.
Luchace Fox
Good luck cleaning it.
Damn that looks good.... just wish they em for the smaller A.A. axles...
If I had a diesel I would only put banks aftermarket products on!
When do they think they will have them for a 2000 ram 3500 drw?
Don’t know for sure.
No doubt this is a fine working product however the best design would be to have the entire differential mainly round and dimpled like a golf ball. The dimpled surface would pull the air from the front around the curved sides to the back where fins could still be implemented without a ram air system. Making the diff perfectly round and slightly bigger with a dimpled surface would actually make it more aerodynamic than a standard one.
Maybe, however the the current design keeps it cooler.
Thank you Banks !
Break away, yikes I cringe just thinking of breaking a almost $400 dollar cover. Long haul trucks can use this not me I see to much off road use to spend that kind of money. Kudos to Banks engineering to reinvent the diff cover though allot of R&D went Into this. We all no Gale is a perfectionist awesome Mr Banks.
Gale already mentioned that if that happens, he will replace for free. It has a lifetime warranty.
At 5 mph or less on a trail this design doesn't get you much benefit for the risk.
I hope with Mr. Banks does the AMC20 cover for my Hummer, he remembers that our diffs are upside down. Those scoops would be up in the air on my diffs.
IIRC, AMC20 diffs have round covers. So it shouldn't matter which way is up
Add fins to stock cover. Done.
see ya Genious. Imagine just adding what is needed and not ruining the original function.
Gail says plainly many times the axle manufacturers knew what they were doing with the stock cover shape, which is why he just improved the stock design
@@jacobbaker1921 no shit. Add find to stock cover
You've got to wonder how much cooling they lost with that giant BANKS logo.
SnifferSock
I imagine that from around the center and up their ram-air is probably being drafted away.
lol yup
I mean once the fins get clogged up with mud your screwed so
@@kdawg3370 Why would it get clogged up with mud? This is for working trucks, not playing trucks.
Considering the fact that this cover has 3x more cooling surface than ANY other cover, i don't think it matters.
More like the only aftetmarket diff cover that is not just bling
Rémi
I bought the BD cover a few years ago.
Rémi
I think the BD cover was the most functional until Banks did this.
BD at least try to be better than stock by increasing capacity but when you look at it and the way oil move in the diff. Its probably making the diff run hotter not cooler
Rémi
🤷♂️ but my mpg went up 😁
$1 million worth of testing, I didn’t know anybody was having problems with Rear Diffs ???
Cummins MAN how are rainbows made?? How does the sun set??? How does the posi work in a Plymouth ???? It just does!... so settle down joe bob
I think you made a good point. Change the differential fluid at regular intervals. No problems.
I think a cheap cover that has a fill plug and a drain plug to help with maintainance is desirable. I hate using the stock filler hole.
If you service regularly and use the the truck for commuting you won't need this cover. I only start my duramax to pull my fifth wheel travel trailer or my race trailer so I think it would be worthwhile. Servicing would be more convenient as well
Cummins MAN hot shot peps do
PPE diff covers. . Clean .
Now this is a cover.
When you are referring to the stock cover, are you speaking to the stamped steel cover or the AAM Aluminum finned cover?
agentmuzz I got the aluminum finned cover looks pretty much like this best $100 I’ve spent compared to $400 smh
@@JonLIsALoser I have the aluminum one for mine as well. I think I picked it up for around $100 a few years ago. The Banks one looks really similar with the exception of the air scoops. I do like the clear sight plug for looking at fluid level. I wonder if you can get just the sight plug.
Great product, wonder how it stacks up next to a diff cooler/pump combo
Looks like a great solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Very nice thanks for the video
You're welcome. Happy to help.
Very nice thanks!
Nice cover, wondering why they didn't show it on their channel
Thought that too, there was never a finale to the series, but they probably didn't want to share their secrets in designing I assume.
I wonder if it's any better than the other covers out there. He never did show results from testing the others ether.
www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/assets/1/20/dimregular/banks-diff-cover-external-heat-radiation.jpg
Yes gale knocked it out again
1. How does this improve fuel mileage?
2. What is the ideal oil temperature?
3. Would this be of any benefit to a non-towing vehicle that runs 100,000 miles per year?
You should go to the banks videos he explains it all
@@93chevy93 What videos? If you're talking about the diff cover series, Ive watched those.
He stated that in the video 1.5 % increase in MPG
It Reduces The Oil Temperature 61 Degrees
Please Watch h The Video
-Sarge
@@frankiehumphreyiv5972 I have watched all the videos. 1. How is the 1.5% achieved? He dosen't answer that question.. 2. Unless I missed it, he dosen't say what the ideal temperature is either. I'm trying to determine if this would be of benefit to a non towing vehicle. Does the increase in fuel economy come from less oil drag? Will the cover cool too much to actually cause less than optimal oil temperatures?
1: Improves mileage over the typical aftermarket covers through better oil flow.
2: Around 150 degrees is my understanding.
3: No. Not at all.
Are these available for the powerstroke ?
Banks does it again!
This guy's favorite word is "actually."
I’ll be buying one.... I’ve done my research..after you guys did... is it critical? Nah.... but there is a reason engineers made diff covers the shape they did,, kinda rounded inside for maximum flow and and least resistance inside..and if you want bling... these are engineered better
Banks aid Ford F250 will be announced at SEMA this year.
First Cummins driver 🤷🏻♂️
Cool cover. Pissed he hasn't made a cover for a ford 250 - 350.
They have only been doing r&d for around a year. And their test truck was a dodge. So of course the axle they make first is going to be the dodge/GM axle.
For a ford Excursion 7.3 2wd. will this be good for it?
That air scoop would be better on top because on the bottom will pick up mud etc. from the road.
Banks measured actual airflow under the truck. It wouldn't get any useful airflow if it was up top. Blocked by the truck itself.
Cooler oil = longer engine life. I never thought the square back covers would work. Too much working of the fluid. People spend 250-400$ on covers that don’t do anything better than stock. This cover works, it’s worth it compared to the competition. It’s the difference between a engineer and testing vs throwing something together.
1. Performance engineering is always somewhat expensive.
2. This is not just for show or weekend warriors, it appeals to Hot shot drivers that drive over 100K per year and regularly pull loads weighing 20K pounds.
3. Gale Banks has been in business for over 50 years and develops products for major vehicle manufacturers. He tests the shit out of his products and documents it.
Kinda wish they made this for my tacoma
Banks never finished their testing. Prove it before you sell it. If pinion bearing lubrication is a main issue then please explain a reverse pinion Dana 44? How about the lubrication to the carrier bearings or better yet hub bearings how long do they last? Or the oil mastication that happens in manual gear box. I'm not saying it doesn't work but prove it. The dyno is one thing but a real world test would be a trailer with a 10 to 12K load up hill in the heat of summer. Real world testing would have a truck at stock ride height not 6 feet off of the ground with a fan blowing. How about a lawnmower engine that has splash lubrication and it runs for years. Hypoid gear oil is designed to cling to gear teeth. Gear oil has extremely high surface tension and shear strength. The bearing clearance in an engine is an example of how little oil it takes to lubricate an engine or gear box for that matter. Very little oil film is necessary for proper lubrication. Just a thought.......let the vitriol begin
He stopped short of just saying every aftermarket cover is a POS. I think someone made a phone call, He sure piped up real fast. For me...To much engineering for a cover. I will keep my stock one and spend the
$400.00 else where on the Truck.
HOW DO YOU KNOW BANKS DID NOT FINISH THE TESTING ??DID YOU VERIFY TO FIND OUT ?? I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY CAN PROVE ALL THEIR DATA. NO ONE DOES AS MUCH R AND D AS THEY DO ACCEPT MAJOR CAR MANUFACTURERS..THEY ALWAYS LEAD THE WAY IN DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS..RESEARCH WHAT I SAID. GALE BANKS IS A GENIOUS.
@@hankclingingsmith8707
Then why start with all the fanfare with videos of a truck on a dyno with an anemometer measuring air flow and temperature readings. With bragging about all the effort and money being put into testing. Make a few videos then crickets...... . Next there's a product with a nice power point presentation. Prove it is all I'm saying. The vehicle manufacturers use real world environments. Banks set train in motion so follow through with.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 I can tell your still in middle school... one day you'll open your eyes.
@@hankclingingsmith8707 im over 400k on my stock rearend. With stock cover. All original hardware save for wheel bearings.
Welding rig, tows my camper thru the mountains mutliple times a year....im over the gvwr, and have been for....8yrs now.
In fact, gear oil has only been changed twice.....yes, twice in over 400k miles.
So....what is the benefit of this cover again?
If the RAM jets sit below the diff - won't they fill with road grime? How would that affect performance?
I don’t think that it will catch enough grime to completely block flow. It would be a good idea to check that when you spend a good bit of time off road.
Can you put this on a half ton pick up?
was the stock cover tested the smooth oe steel or the oe finned aluminum as used on rams?
andrew slagle smooth I think it was on a on older ram check out his UA-cam page
Does he have one of these for the 2001 dodge ram 2500 cummins 5.9l 4x4?
Not where I thought I’d hear about this.
Para cual camion es este cover ?
No ford cover yet maybe it will be coming soon
It'll be ready before Christmas.
When is it going to be available for the 2018 f250 6.7 ...
TBA
I called Banks and was told Ford differentials date will be announced at this years SEMA.
Can't wait!
@@rayflores8408 AWSOME buddy I was going to do the same thing. I've literally had to work every waking minute this week just got off and your the first thing on my inbox..Thanks my man
@@thoroughbreddiesel They said at SEMA this year they will announce the date
@@thoroughbreddiesel They said they will announce a date at SEMA this year. Straight from Banks
Too many design flaws with this part. After 8 Months I've had this part; 12 Pt fasteners stripped, Fill plug not stainless or zinc coated (rusted), O-ring gasket leaking, Ram air scoop cracked, low grade aluminum pitting (corroded), Powder coating peeling off, zero improvement in fuel economy. Stick with the stock cover.
What does it do for you when it's 10 degrees?
That's not the whole story. The fluid dynamics are so poor in the flat back covers it costs you money to use them. And, they don't get the lubricant up and over to the pinion as well as the stock cover.
@@bankspower I've seen the videos and agree with the principles you've explained.
What are the side effects of excessively cold gear oil? I live in Montana and -20 degrees Fahrenheit is common in winter my question is wood the additional cooling prohibit 75-140 from reaching operating temperature in those severely cold ambient temperatures?
I've seen a lot of flak in the comments section here how about you not releasing your video first. I think it's a good way to do it in this case so that you can address these kinds of practical application questions that are going to come up in the video that you do publish. Cheers love your products manner of thinking as you've done always shrug off the negativity and do what they say can't be done. I know I sure as hell am with my chasing of your land speed record in a first gen Dodge.
Seen one already on UA-cam getting powder coated and installed for a SEMA build.
Cool
Yes, because why wouldn't you put an insulative layer on something meant to disperse heat?
Can I get one for a second gen dodge ram ??
Does anyone know when Banks is gonna make a diff cover for gmc 1500 trucks?
It would have been cool if they made one of the ford 8.8 or 9.0
How you gonna make a cover for a 9"?
Where’s the Ford 12 bolt!?
Junkyards. Lol just kidding it made the most sense for them to release this version first since it fits dodge, Chevy and gmc rear ends
@@kylevanwinkle2081 I was wondering how deep into the comments I would have to go to read a Ford driver asking "wheres the one for the Ford" and someone saying "in the junk yard" or something similar. Lol. Didn't have to go far! I love it.