Throw Away Your Drum Throne

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  • Опубліковано 7 січ 2021
  • Or sell it..
    What piece of your kit is the most important? Can upgrading this one piece of gear really make you a better player instantly?? Yes. Yes it can.
    I wish drum companies would make this. Perhaps they've been doing things the same way for so long, they're afraid or unwilling to change.

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  • @MikahelRaiden
    @MikahelRaiden 2 роки тому +2

    Changed my life.
    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @teeveeviewerski3381
    @teeveeviewerski3381 2 роки тому +112

    I have to agree. I stole a four legged stool from my guitar player and it is just the right height. I noticed right away. He asked for it back, been able to put it off for three years now, but alas I will have to return it. I actually like the guy, despite him being a guitar player.

    • @DadBodDrumming
      @DadBodDrumming 2 роки тому +1

      If he liked you, he would let you keep the stool.

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit 2 роки тому +2

      What do you call a drummer who refuses to play a particular song? Answer: an impossible jerk who is making the band all about him.
      What do you call a guitar player who picks ALL the songs, will not consider any song he doesn't already know & love, and is always complaining and threatening to quit? Answer: a guitar player.

    • @chrish7336
      @chrish7336 2 роки тому +1

      @@RandySeverino I know he mentioned 4 legs, but to be honest it was more about the stability of the design of a 4 leg stool than the 4 legs alone. The stool is solid all the way to the seat, the standard drum throne is not. If you can find a 3 legged Stool you would have the best of both worlds. A solid seat and no worries of an uneven floor

    • @UPdan
      @UPdan Рік тому

      He owns it to you for being a guitar player.

    • @martincattell7039
      @martincattell7039 Рік тому

      LOL

  • @parkershippen5513
    @parkershippen5513 2 роки тому +12

    I solved this years ago by performing lying down

  • @joshua.merrill
    @joshua.merrill 2 роки тому +84

    My gripe about his advice is that a 3 foot stool will self level on uneven surfaces, whereas a 4 foot stool will not, creating a wobble.
    However, I do agree that your seat is one of the most important pieces of kit.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  2 роки тому +3

      More so than the amount of feet, my gripe is with the seemingly universal design flaw of the central posts. Not sure why they're all that way but there's just no way to limit motion and sway especially for high-sitters like me.

    • @joshua.merrill
      @joshua.merrill 2 роки тому +3

      @@BenReigel I don't sit too high, so I don't encounter that problem, but it is an inherent weakness in the design. Sounds like there might be a market for a new design that works for high-sitters, though!

    • @alancarver2511
      @alancarver2511 2 роки тому +3

      I just want to say that i've played for 34 years in all kinds of bars with crappy plywood stages with 3 and 4 foot thrones and the 4 ones never wobbled. My experience is that 4 is more stable than 3.

    • @carlodave9
      @carlodave9 2 роки тому +20

      I have the opposite of a gripe. I'm a bad drummer and I'm always looking for new excuses for why I suck. Now I get to add a single post throne to my ever-growing list.

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 2 роки тому +2

      I've played on both 4 and 3 legged thrones and the 3 legged one is way better. Hell try and play on an office chair with wheels on it.

  • @terryreknaw6152
    @terryreknaw6152 2 роки тому +18

    😂. I play at an open mic night and sit on the window ledge of the pub and I've also sat on chairs to play. It's not perfect but i make it work.

    • @boblatzer
      @boblatzer 2 роки тому +3

      I have done the same my friend. I wish all musicians would boycott open mike nights and force the bar owners to pay bands. I got my chops during the seventies playing 6 nights a week for a minimum of 100 bucks a night. Those were the glory days I know. But I refuse to get on stage and play for nothing. Luckily I found a church gig that allows me to play twice a week. Don’t get me wrong. I know how great it feels to be up on stage and I’m sure that’s why you do it. Peace brother, and keep rocking in the free world!

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 2 роки тому

      @@boblatzer does the church pay you to play for the Lord?

  • @patrickr.452
    @patrickr.452 2 роки тому +34

    I have a great DW drum throne with 4 legs, solid as a rock, back rest, lots of cousin for the 90 minute sets and it folds up for transportation. I'm glad you found a solution but there are a ton of great thrones on the market, you just can't go cheap.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  2 роки тому +5

      I love DW hardware and see your point about cheap gear for sure. I paid around $200 for my 5000 series throne but that central post still makes it wobble on me! This is probably more of an issue for people who sit on the high side. I imagine if someone sits low almost any throne is stable.

    • @NEALBABBITT
      @NEALBABBITT 2 роки тому +4

      @@BenReigel roc n soc, zero wobble! and I know wobble, I have really bad back issues and if I wobble the tiniest bit it causes me pain.

    • @rtanidean4931
      @rtanidean4931 2 роки тому +2

      @@NEALBABBITT agreed. I have two of them. Solid. Both bicycle seats with hydraulic for adjusting. If it had memory points one could dial in it would be perfect. Drum on.

    • @cisumsevolbor
      @cisumsevolbor 2 роки тому +1

      Same here. Besides the 4 legs, I bought it because it could spin WITHOUT effecting the height. The spinning action was independent of the height adjustment. Totally awesome.

    • @rtanidean4931
      @rtanidean4931 2 роки тому

      @@NEALBABBITT Same. Now, I play with 2 other drummers live on set. So- if roc n soc made their hydraulic with 2 or 3 memory point options it would be the ultimate. But hey, I should probably shut up and design my own. It shouldn’t be that hard to accomplish- I could sell many of them guaranteed. Smart musicians know that well-designed quality is worth the $. I tend to keep great gear for its entirety. Just sayin. Drum on all. d

  • @PNW_Sportbike_Life
    @PNW_Sportbike_Life 2 роки тому +15

    Roc-n-Soc Nitro is the only way to go! (Fine, not the ONLY way, but a damn GOOD way!)

    • @stewartgc09
      @stewartgc09 2 роки тому

      Yea I’ve had mine for 13 years and it’s still just as solid as when I got it. I prefer a tiny bit of bounce, but not wobble, and the nitro is very predictable. I also have the fixed roc n Soc but it’s not the same

    • @mclekrell
      @mclekrell 2 роки тому

      Just got mine. Best I’ve had.

    • @adrumwhisperer
      @adrumwhisperer 2 роки тому

      If you aren't moving it around... go with the Lunar, more solid and doesn't tip over. The downside is it does NOT BREAK DOWN! for a studio, it's great though! I keep a Lunar for home and Nitro for gigging. Also the optional back support is worth it IMO. No way in hell I would play on a bar stool or anything that isn't hydraulic/pneumatic... my back would be destroyed!

    • @73challenger5031
      @73challenger5031 2 роки тому

      My wife bought me a Roc-N-Soc that has five feet and the hydraulic lift about ten years ago. It's amazing!

  • @TempoDrift1480
    @TempoDrift1480 2 роки тому +3

    I sit very low, 14 inches to be exact and I bought what is known as a pedicure stool. 5 legs with casters, swivel, gas lift and a back. Dayton was the manufacturer. Best thing I ever did.

  • @p0llenp0ny
    @p0llenp0ny 2 роки тому +3

    I use a folding chair as my drum throne. I feel personally attacked.

  • @alejandrobustos2268
    @alejandrobustos2268 2 роки тому +5

    All his life the great Milford Graves used a simple folding metal chair instead of the usual drummer stool. He always played perfectly backed up and comfortable like that.

    • @luiszuluaga6575
      @luiszuluaga6575 2 роки тому

      I saw Milford Graves perform a few times in my life and he didn’t need fancy anything to do what he did best. All I can say is as I listened I felt as though I were transformed. 🤎🥁

  • @MichaelTNewell
    @MichaelTNewell 2 роки тому +2

    A 3 legged stool with 4 posts supporting a seat would be a dream come true.

  • @wakeywakey3762
    @wakeywakey3762 2 роки тому +3

    Thats interesting. Im not a drummer, Im a guitar player….but I like chairs.

  • @onemoremisfit
    @onemoremisfit 2 роки тому +10

    Buddy used one of those cylindrical "trash cans" that were around since the big band era. They were intended to be a travel case for your folded stands and hardware; a cylindrical case of a given standard height with a padded lid that doubled as a throne. Ludwig still sold them in the early 80s when Buddy was endorsing Ludwig. Maybe they are still around. Buddy used one his whole career as far as I could tell. If you could play at that particular seating height (I think they only came in one height) then that would be a solid no-wobble foundation. I'm sure Buddy knew a thing or two about that concept.
    I used the Roc n Soc since the 90s, but a few years ago I just could not take that swell in the crotch area anymore. It was making my junk go numb.
    I looked at the stipulations on Steve Smith's contract that he used for clinics other gigs. He had it posted on his website. A lot of these gigs have what he calls Drums Du Jour, meaning they are loaner kits provided by a local music shop. On the topic of throne, he specified any good serviceable standard throne ... NO ROC N SOC. And every time I saw Steve live he used a basic bitch round seat throne. But recently on his YT channel I noticed him practicing with a heavy base thick orthopedic style seat throne that I could not tell the brand. I inquired in the comments but he did not respond.
    A few years ago I picked up a Carmichael throne. These are a solid base like the Roc N Soc, but the shape and upholstery of the seat is unique, without the bicycle seat crotch protrusion. They have a spit cushion that keeps pressure off the tail bone. The also have a model of their seat that will retrofit to a Roc N Soc base, so I got one. It will also accept the Roc N Soc backrest. So basically they have a product that serves the drummer who likes the heavy base and orthopedic cushion with backrest, but hates the swell in the crotch.
    I have been caught without a throne once or twice, and everybody in the whole room doesn't see why I don't just use a bar stool or any old chair. That's one of the things I hate about drumming in a band. The whole world thinks drums are just furniture. And even if you take the time to explain, they will just argue.

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille Рік тому

      I know Buddy is one of the most amazing drummer in the world. Still, is posture is horrible to look at and he died of an heart attack playing. Not necessarily the best example of proper ergonomics...

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit Рік тому

      @@jas_bataille Actually that is sort of making one of my points. Buddy was a monster who could sit down behind any random drums and sound great, even with bad ergonomics, and he did that all the time with some of the drum sets on the Tonight Show that were just rentals. So everybody else in the band thinks I should be able to play any random drum set because Buddy could. I hate playing somebody else's drums. For one thing, I'm 6' 2" tall and the guy who owns the drum set always seems to be 5' 7". BTW Buddy did not die of a heart attack while playing, he died in a hospital of complications after surgery.

  • @bruceperkins2921
    @bruceperkins2921 2 роки тому +4

    I used to use a armrest free office chair. I removed the wheels. It was very comfortable. And light weight. It blew out of the back of my truck.

    • @JohnMatlosz
      @JohnMatlosz 2 роки тому +2

      One time I played a show and the house kit I had to play on had an office chair for a thrown. Except mine had wheels. There's footage of me rolling off the riser mid song somewhere

    • @bruceperkins2921
      @bruceperkins2921 2 роки тому

      @@JohnMatlosz classic house drum kit clownery

  • @DavidMScott-cs8pp
    @DavidMScott-cs8pp 2 роки тому +6

    I too went through four or more thrones. Even the cheapies were heavy and uncomfortable as most of the seats were too hard.
    As i'm in my eighties I wanted something comfortable, light and foldable. I bought a new key board for my music room along with a bench seat. The seat has
    height adjustable X legs with wide bases with rubber ends. So,
    it is stable, super light weight, folds flat and slips into a nylon gym bag. Due my age and old hips I did add a soft cushion designed to go on my car bucket seat. The thing is super comfortable and my total investment is just list than $60
    Canadian for bench, cushion and gym bag. So now my keyboard player has to sit on a regular folding chair ! 😂

    • @hccarder
      @hccarder 2 роки тому +1

      I basically said the same thing then I read you reply. HAHA... It's so simple. Functional.

  • @pawelmorrison
    @pawelmorrison 2 роки тому +7

    Maybe not neccesairly throw away a drum throne, throw away a bad and wobbly drum throne. I`ve played years on a stable but very hard and stiff "throne" that somebody welded together from different pieces and it came with my first drumset. When my tailbone was aching too bad to play after 2 hours of playing I`ve decided to finally pull the trigger on a good throne and it's one of the best purchases ever.
    For anyone interested I ordered a BigFoot motorcycle type throne with the a divison channel in the center, sort of like the expensive Ahead thrones. The bigFoot does just about the same job (takes prssure off of the tailbone and spine) for like a third of the money. Much reccomended.

  • @sandc411
    @sandc411 5 місяців тому

    I built my own throne maybe 30 years ago. It's rectangular, made of 1/2 inch wood with a padded seat. It's been all over the world and use it to this day.

  • @rodolfodeanda5405
    @rodolfodeanda5405 2 роки тому +2

    I was gifted a roc n soc. No wobble, adjustable height. I've had it for 15 years

  • @morganway483
    @morganway483 2 роки тому +3

    Ive been using a bar stool I found at the Salvation Army store 30 years ago. Spin the seat to go up or down, weighs a good bit and stable as a rock.

  • @bluejaysfive
    @bluejaysfive 2 роки тому +1

    Is it me, or is the bell on that ride. HUUUUUUUUUGE?!?!

  • @unglaubiger5645
    @unglaubiger5645 2 роки тому +1

    That´s why I use a rugged wooden chair. I built that thing myself, it has proper mortise and tennon joints and has the right height.

  • @itikutok6568
    @itikutok6568 2 роки тому +1

    It's true, I find I have to constantly retighten the stool to make it sturdy again. Sometimes after each song. A wobbly stool is devastating to your back, take care of it.

    • @ThePsho
      @ThePsho 2 роки тому

      That's exactly why I'm here. I'm having to tighten the seat to the base after every song. It's also a round seat, so if I'm not sitting on it just right, I feel like I lose a lot of control with my kick drum foot.

  • @UtwoBed
    @UtwoBed 2 роки тому +1

    That's so funny, I have been using a sawed off bar stool for over 40 years. Works great.

  • @W3ndigX
    @W3ndigX 7 місяців тому

    I've been using an office chair so this really hits home for me 😂.

  • @piperofsimms
    @piperofsimms 2 роки тому

    Hi, Last week I ordered a sturdy stool from Target. I wanted to be able to be free of chair arms. The swivel seat is great for shifting while I'm doing looping with the guitar. I think your thoughts all make sense for a drummer. Thank you.

  • @mikebarker9187
    @mikebarker9187 2 роки тому

    The best drum throne is one that doesn’t squish your nads and make your pecker go numb. Or collapse and make you keel over backwards.

  • @syllomusic
    @syllomusic Рік тому +1

    Oh my, the action shot unfolding that horrid plastic chair, triggered memories from some super slidy, wooden floored school/church performances..
    ..how does e'ryone have that same chair

  • @gatherstudio5219
    @gatherstudio5219 2 роки тому +1

    This really is a great video and I found that when I went to the roc and soc throne still with three legs and yes center post but...... the biggest improvement was the back rest and now I don't have back problems . I think when playing drums the most important thing to consider is ergonomics of how your sitting where you are hitting ,is there reaching involve??, are you slouching???
    And then taking steps to correct these important factors

  • @subsonicwarthog
    @subsonicwarthog 2 роки тому +2

    I use a split seat, spinal by AHEAD, and if you have lower back problem's, this is the only seat you can sit on for three hours straight without pain. Ive owned Tama seats and Ludwig most of my life. Pain.

  • @donshort8154
    @donshort8154 2 роки тому +2

    Canister style drum thrones. These were a thing in the 50's and the 60's. They look kind of odd but they are super rock solid. I lucked out on a used DW one and when I saw it kind of laughed and thought what an oddball thing that is. Then the guy in the store, who has known me for a while, suggested I sit down and try it. Immediately I felt the difference and within maybe 20 seconds I knew I was going to buy it. Plus it can carry odds and ends. I throw my pedal and stick bag and a couple of other things in there and I'm good to go. It is fantastic.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  2 роки тому

      YES! Why oh why don't they bring those back? They're awesome!

    • @SalMichael
      @SalMichael 2 роки тому

      @@BenReigel DW has a great one thats adjustable. It's 500.00

    • @CoachNation
      @CoachNation 2 роки тому

      Buddy Rich... cannister throne.

    • @jaystrider9415
      @jaystrider9415 Рік тому

      Interesting... seems like something that would be pretty straightforward to DIY, too.

    • @donshort8154
      @donshort8154 5 місяців тому

      Bang on. The dw one is hands down the best throne I have ever owned.

  • @cefinau
    @cefinau 2 роки тому +1

    0:26 the cat knows, the most important thing is a comfortable place to sit

  • @SoonerThunderFan
    @SoonerThunderFan 2 роки тому +2

    I've used a RocNSoc with the back attachment for 15+ years. It is a miracle for the larger drummers and I've had maybe hundreds of drummers sit on it and many end up buying one. If there was a better one I'd look into it but I haven't heard of one. Great video subject, thank you!

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit 2 роки тому +1

      If you get tired of that swell in the crotch on your Roc N Soc seat (like I did) look at the Carmichael throne. They make a cushion with a bolt pattern that retrofits on the Roc N Soc base and accepts the backrest.

  • @garytorres1435
    @garytorres1435 3 роки тому +6

    Good video and I agree with you. The wobble does affect playing and your body does have to compensate for it. I purchased about 6 months ago the ahead g spinal drum throne and if I'm really honest it's pretty good and strong built. I normal dont tighten the top nut so I can turn right or left and for now this drum throne is the best one i have ever owned. It had 4 base legs and has the motorcycle shape seat. If you ever come across this throne give it a try.
    Thanks for the video, some people miss what they think is the smaller things but I think you come across a good point.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much! I will definitely give that throne a try when I cross its path. I love the concept of those split-seat bases. Seems like they'd be much more comfortable and easier on the lower back.

    • @icenic_wolf
      @icenic_wolf 2 роки тому +1

      I have a Spinal G throne and LOVE it, after trying out a million other kinds of thrones. This one is king.

  • @maximwood
    @maximwood 2 роки тому +3

    totally agree with everything said, I found out my bench height was relatively the same as a Cajon and I've been using a Cajon ever since. Saved my back.

    • @wurstauge8790
      @wurstauge8790 2 роки тому

      Jauuu!🤘🏼
      please tell me your height.

    • @maximwood
      @maximwood 2 роки тому

      @@wurstauge8790 5'10'' or 178 cm

  • @user-nf2wk9yx8z
    @user-nf2wk9yx8z 29 днів тому

    Good video. I started off playing sitting on my bed (so a little too low and way too far away). My first and only "drum throne" is a $90 pneumatic stool sold for work shops, and it's much sturdier than anything actually marketed as a drum throne that costs $90.

  • @michaelinglis8516
    @michaelinglis8516 2 роки тому +1

    Lol I've actually been using a stool for the past year or two. I just bought a cheap wooden Walmart stool and removed the round cushion from an old drum thrown and put the round cushion on the wooden stool. Then I marked the legs at 26 in. (I think 26 in. but it's been awhile) and cut off the excess. Works great as a drum thrown cause its sturdy and I can also put my right leg up on the leg rest when I'm playing guitar. Highly recommend using a stool!

  • @chavezedrums
    @chavezedrums 2 роки тому +1

    Lol I love it! That first brown steel chair was exactly what I had in my early teens....absolutely horrible lol. Early 20’s I learned the importance of a real throne!

  • @silentskystudios
    @silentskystudios 2 роки тому +6

    Yeah, I wouldn't say "throw away your throne", but I would definitely advocate for buying a high-quality throne. I now own 3 Roc-N-Soc Nitro thrones which I keep at different practice and performance spaces. They are very solid, stable, and definitely far superior to the several budget drum thrones I had owned over the years from Pearl, Gibraltar, generic, etc.

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 2 роки тому +1

      Whoa they have a nitro? I'll have to check those out. I just a regular roc n soc and I love it.
      Edit: nevermind, that's the kind of have.

  • @soldierdrumchannel5710
    @soldierdrumchannel5710 2 роки тому

    Or…. But an expensive heavy drum throne, that doesn’t wobble. 👍🏻

  • @sethgagle6264
    @sethgagle6264 2 роки тому

    roc-n-soc has always seemed pretty perfect to me

  • @mrnegronis
    @mrnegronis 2 роки тому +2

    It's interesting how there is no alternative to how the seat attaches to the base regardless of make and model. I have a throne that's really good quality for the sum of it's parts but the wing nut always works loose on the seat attachment which causes it to wobble.

    • @NEALBABBITT
      @NEALBABBITT 2 роки тому +2

      Try Roc n soc, no wobble!

  • @MySkilletfan
    @MySkilletfan Рік тому +1

    I didn't know the wabble wasn't normal. God I hate my shit throne

  • @jas_bataille
    @jas_bataille Рік тому +1

    I use a stool in the studio, with four wheels, and also a guitarist stool made by profile, with a little integrated round footrest I use to attach my stick bag. It's heavy but really stable :)

  • @brianjansen3103
    @brianjansen3103 2 роки тому

    My throne got taller every year I've played, now I pretty much sit as high as the throne will allow & that's become my norm

  • @trevorheinrichs7794
    @trevorheinrichs7794 2 роки тому

    Been using a cheap ikea chair with a back rest for many years. Best Ever.

  • @jackconnolly2665
    @jackconnolly2665 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the tip! I also sit at 24". When I start hitting rims and breaking sticks, it is usually because my throne has screwed it self down and I'm sitting too low. I'm liking the 24" bar stool idea. I've never liked the typical wobble point a traditional throne but I never considered how much it may impact playing.

    • @chrish7336
      @chrish7336 2 роки тому

      I used a bar stool and added padding to the seat for comfort. After that part was made, I took about 1/2 inch of the bottom of the legs to adjust the height for what I needed.

  • @kinserjosh
    @kinserjosh 9 днів тому

    Great video and idea. Thank you! Quick question: How many inches high is your drum throne when measured from the floor to the top of the seat?

  • @Durwood71
    @Durwood71 2 роки тому

    You can buy a good traditional drum throne that is comfortable and rock solid stable (the test is whether or not you can lift both feet off the floor without wobbling), but it won't be cheap. I own a Pork Pie Round which is a dream to sit on but costs around $200.

  • @BurtReynoldss
    @BurtReynoldss 4 місяці тому

    i used a shop stool right now with wheels. worlds most frustrating thing that’s why i’m here lol

  • @barrydrocknrail2231
    @barrydrocknrail2231 2 роки тому +7

    Something with four legs needs to stand on a perfectly flat surface though, or it will be unstable. This is where a three legged base scores. Photographers never use a quadrapod to my knowledge.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  2 роки тому

      Great point. Uneven floors under the kit are the worst!

    • @DadBodDrumming
      @DadBodDrumming 2 роки тому

      But drum stools don't have extendable legs like a tripod so your point is lost from the start.
      4 legs is always more stable than 3.

    • @jeremiahmiller3310
      @jeremiahmiller3310 2 роки тому +1

      Three equal length legs on an uneven surface may not end up level/straight, but it will always be stable. (Unless so uneven that the center of gravity ends up outside the legs.) Four equal length legs on an uneven surface are very likely to wobble.

  • @jcdrums2798
    @jcdrums2798 2 роки тому +2

    i play since 20 years with a DIXON drum throne 3 legs ....very stable ; nothing wrong.

  • @sauzeeee
    @sauzeeee 2 роки тому

    aye true that. at home i use a $19 rolling massage stool and removed the wheels, and damn it's stable enough that i dont have that rocking body motion. the only problem is it's not super padded so i cant sit on it for more than an hour, so i just place a couple of thick floofy towels on the seat. and since it's on hydraulics, you dont need to fiddle with the locks after any height adjustments.

  • @yourdrummer2034
    @yourdrummer2034 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. I tell anyone who listens to me (when they ask my opinion!) That this very piece of advice is golden!

  • @cisumsevolbor
    @cisumsevolbor 2 роки тому +4

    I bought a DW drum throne. Besides the 4 legs, I bought it because it could spin WITHOUT effecting the height. The spinning action was *independent* of the height adjustment. Totally awesome.

  • @RileyHarrisVFX
    @RileyHarrisVFX 2 роки тому

    It’s pretty cheap but my drum stool is my dining room chair

  • @davehunter935
    @davehunter935 2 роки тому

    very interesting and food for thought. part of the problem is getting to gigs with the stool in the drum case and collapsible stools are ideal for this. I'm gonna look for something that ticks both boxes!
    thanks for the vid!

  • @infirmusdrummer
    @infirmusdrummer 2 роки тому

    I really thought this was meant to be ironic humor…until I read the comments. You guys must be a lot of fun at parties….

  • @j.vincentdrums4812
    @j.vincentdrums4812 2 роки тому

    I once had to sit on a cajon - one of the comfortable things I’d used.

  • @joeredman6740
    @joeredman6740 2 роки тому +1

    Years ago I had a cheap throne.and one night the during a gig, the center pole went right through the seat. Not good!

  • @isaacyoder4137
    @isaacyoder4137 2 роки тому

    A stool for $20 might be stable, but if that cushion sucks you're gonna be sore in 30 minutes of playing. Most of the wobble comes from where the seat attaches to the post, so if you make sure that's tight you should eliminate most of it. You might need to periodically tighten the bolt on it while jamming tho.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  2 роки тому

      True they're not as comfortable. The central post type seats always wobble on me though. No matter how expensive the model, and no matter how hard I tighten it!

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 2 роки тому

    Mapex makes a sturdy 4 legger with backrest.

  • @DamienMargo
    @DamienMargo 2 роки тому +1

    Of all my thrones the one that doesn't wobble is the Gibraltar 9608 which features the double clamp mechanism on both the base and the seat. Nowhere is there a double clamp on my DW. Gretsch seems to be making a good choice with Gibraltar.

  • @flashfan1122
    @flashfan1122 9 місяців тому

    Good info! What is that blue sparkle kit?! I neeeed it

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  9 місяців тому +1

      That's a Japanese stencil kit. They're so undervalued and sound amazing!

  • @hydorah
    @hydorah 2 роки тому

    A Premier TriLok stool is three legged and does not wobble. Good luck finding one though! They are so rare I had to make my own copy out of parts

  • @lisan1010
    @lisan1010 Рік тому

    great Ben! I'm trying my 24" guitar stool and it feels just perfect

  • @bungeechord1
    @bungeechord1 2 роки тому

    I use three stacked buckets with a foam topper. It like the old school thrones that remind me of a floor tom or conga.

  • @coreygalletly723
    @coreygalletly723 2 роки тому +1

    I like using 5 gallon buckets, i use 3 to get my height, works great for me+ no legs no movement $15

  • @johnafamasaga9310
    @johnafamasaga9310 2 роки тому

    Definitely right, there was a throne I sat on that had adjustability and no wobble most comfortable I had ever been, playing but I don't remember what company made it and so the search continues🤔

  • @UPdan
    @UPdan Рік тому

    The Cosco two step ladder works wonders with a little padding like two hand towels. I painted mine all black and put my stick bag on one side and attached the holder for metronome on other side. The lower step holds tambourine and brushes. The top bar is a backrest and the thing is so comfortable and secure and matches my Gibraltar throne in seating height once the Gibraltar seat cushion contraction happens. No sway, no seating movement.

  • @Dicastdemon
    @Dicastdemon 2 роки тому

    I've played on bar stools random chairs even a tractor seat.
    I now have a good stool that is always the same height

  • @brodaciousmax8025
    @brodaciousmax8025 2 роки тому

    Man I play 3-4hr gigs. Not a chance do I wanna sit on a stoll. I had a normal throne. Suxed my back hurt. I switched to a throne with a back and shock absorber. Saves my back improved my posture and comfortable.

  • @vic2103
    @vic2103 2 роки тому +1

    I've always used my kitchen chair.

  • @baconfromhell666
    @baconfromhell666 Рік тому

    There might be better thrones/stools/chairs out there than what I got, but I bought my drum throne about a decade and a half ago. The most expensive piece of furniture for sitting for a single person I ever bought. It was amazing the day I bought it and still is like it's brand new.

  • @SkiRedMtn
    @SkiRedMtn 2 роки тому

    Man thank you so much. I’ve been playing for a while and I’m really trying to improve. I’ve noticed my balance is becoming an issue as my playing gets more precise.

    • @BenReigel
      @BenReigel  2 роки тому

      Awesome Ryan! It's insane so many thrones have that lame central post. This issue definitely gets more noticeable the further we climb as players.

  • @dickvisser9620
    @dickvisser9620 2 місяці тому

    Ron n Soc nitro gaz lift with a hugger seat is the best I ever could imagine

  • @MrWoolyMonster
    @MrWoolyMonster 2 роки тому

    I agree to a degree. The throne is very important, and I may have been spoiled from a young age, as I had the same heavy-duty, motorcycle-style throne from almost day one. It was expensive, but although I acquired a few others over the years, I never needed another. It was heavy, comfortable, adjustable, and reliable. The problem I have with four legs is the nature of shapes. Triangles are the basis of support and strength. And for practicality’s sake, (out in “the wild”) you’ll find yourself in more situations than not where the ground isn’t always exactly smooth or level. Three legs keeps you much more stable than four. So maybe in an ideal controlled environment this is not only an option, but practical (because who wants to spend $150 on a throne), but for playing out, it’s one of those “not-so-flashy” things that one might want to consider spending a little more money on.

  • @briandrum1
    @briandrum1 2 місяці тому

    IDK, for my back there is *no way* I could use the stool you brought into the video towards the end. Not only would my back to pissed at me, but so would my ass! I used a Roc-N-Soc for a number of years but eventually the hydraulic post failed. I was going to get a new Roc-N-Soc with the twist adjustment, but ultimately I went with a Gibraltar with the twist adjustment. It was a bit more than the Roc-N-Soc but well worth the $$! The seat itself is much more comfortable than my old Roc-N-Soc and if you want to talk about sturdiness, this thing could not be more solid!

  • @geardonner7549
    @geardonner7549 2 роки тому

    I kinda get it. I used to play from the edge of a bed for over 6 years, I got a cheap drum throne this year and I fucking hate it.

  • @dmutant2635
    @dmutant2635 2 роки тому

    My Porkpie throne was the best investment ever!
    I always wanted one of those old Slingerland
    thrones that could hold some gear and they matched the finish of your drum shells.....

  • @richardfinney3179
    @richardfinney3179 2 роки тому

    I make my throwns, I use a piece of 1inch plywood cut it in to a seat shape about 3 inches bigger around than my butt as I sit on it ,I draw it with a felt pen and the piece has a nose that comes between my legs then go to a wreaking yard and get the foam out of a Cadillac back seat it's the best cushion I've found I use blue foam 3/4 inch on the plywood first then put a piece of the Cadillac foam on the seat ,sit on it , if it isent comfy enough for you pot another piece of the cadi foam on top sit on it if it's good for your butt I cover it with a piece of canvas because it breathes and my butt doesn't sweet staple it to the plywood I have somebody sit on it while I staple it so it's fairly pushed down ,adjust it to your liking good luck you'll love it put the seat on any stand that will support you

  • @sumoneuno
    @sumoneuno 2 роки тому

    Wow! Makes so much sense and have never given it any thought.

  • @martincattell7039
    @martincattell7039 Рік тому

    Unbelievable there are so many drum stool designers and manufacturers with their rickety drum stools, they're just a waste of time and money, so I'm just using a stable stool and trying out rubber bumpers on it's feet.

  • @pghdrummer
    @pghdrummer 2 роки тому

    I mean they make super nice 4 legged drum thrones. U definitely don't need to use an old bar stool lol

  • @enigmatheoryofficial
    @enigmatheoryofficial 2 роки тому +1

    The best drum throne for me is the AHEAD Spinal Glide! I mean, WOW! I can sit on that for hours without my crotch and butt going numb, we’ve all been there. The best $200 I ever spent on drum gear.

  • @VS0097
    @VS0097 2 роки тому

    I played a gig at a local bar sitting on top of an Amp once. The show must go on! Lol

  • @ericmalone3213
    @ericmalone3213 2 роки тому

    My 4 legged Mapex drum throne is rock solid, perfect in every respect.

  • @Spierdalajyoutube
    @Spierdalajyoutube 2 роки тому

    Yamaha dsm 100. No wobble at all. Solid as rock

  • @TupDigital
    @TupDigital 2 роки тому +1

    Buying the AHEAD brand Spinal Glide throne w 4 legs was a game changer for me. Obv the 4 legs was a great first for me, but the fact that it's made with a split gap down the seat allows your tailbone/spine to never be in contact w the seat was the major thing.... this not only giving you the four leg sturdiness but you can sit on it for hours without any negative circulation/soreness/fatigue as you would have from a normal throne.

    • @billdrummer1197
      @billdrummer1197 2 роки тому

      ONLY 3 leg thrones are sturdy. 4 leg thrones are almost guaranteed to wobble whereas 3 legged thrones wil NEVER wobble under ANY conditions.

  • @shink5331
    @shink5331 2 роки тому

    Thanks man! I gotta try something 4 legged, the wobble sucks

  • @niteshades_promise
    @niteshades_promise 2 роки тому +1

    tighten throne bolts up with channel locks. zero wobble. $10 tool.🍻

  • @ta2u15
    @ta2u15 2 роки тому

    Well done, accurate addressment of a very common issue!

  • @BlurredTrees
    @BlurredTrees 2 роки тому

    I use a chair and stick the 2 back legs with big weights on the legs so it doesn’t move. 🤟👌🏼👍🏻

  • @fmlyman1012
    @fmlyman1012 2 роки тому

    I use an old office adjustable chair with out the back, it’s padded comfortable roll’s around best throne I’ve ever had 👍🍻

  • @eliassimon666
    @eliassimon666 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for such a brief video! Right to the damn point!

  • @sword-and-shield
    @sword-and-shield 2 роки тому

    A cement block with a cushion was the only thing not breaking underneath me at gigs as a hardcore drummer back in the day...YMMV

  • @kariemE
    @kariemE 2 роки тому

    Me with my cheap plastic no Cochin stool 🤡
    I just put some towels in top to adjust height and some comfort

  • @DZNTZ
    @DZNTZ 2 роки тому

    Gibraltar 9608, hydraulic moto seat. Best throne out there. The hydraulic post is a tank, it’s not moving. Beefy feet, beefy hardware, super easy to adjust. And the seat itself is far more comfortable and shaped more ergonomically than the competition, mines been holding up for years. It’s one of those things you didn’t know how much you needed it. Treat yourself to a great throne, it’s a game changer.

  • @Modeus_Moon
    @Modeus_Moon 2 роки тому +1

    I will say, as a lightweight drummer (only like 116 pounds), I almost never experience the problem of throne wobble. I don’t know if that’s because of my size, or the fact that I use a motorcycle style seat. All I know is that I can never do a stool type seat ever again. Hurts my ass too much. That and any height issue I have can be resolved pretty easily with some minor tweaks.
    Roc-N-Socs are sturdy bitches though. Love mine so much.

  • @BobSchoepenjr
    @BobSchoepenjr 2 роки тому

    Such a performing host must be an excellent drummer, no doubt

  • @jodyguilbeaux8225
    @jodyguilbeaux8225 2 роки тому

    i have a gibraltar drum throne and i am happy with it.