Give this video a thumbs up for Thomas and his great efforts and accomplishments Galion TS120: www.galion-audio.com/?fbclid=IwAR3CXWBi5IVMEPtwi0HAtWHB4DjhCspZrIus1z2qXBaV1cTejYSHVfQAqro Thomas' video on Galion: ua-cam.com/video/kLC01GyligA/v-deo.html Galion youtube channel: ua-cam.com/channels/LqnHukMeaXpm0CTeQZczbQ.html Thomas' youtube channel: ua-cam.com/channels/MVtSHXafOEcFN10FYygDTA.html
Nice to see you guys, spending time together. You see, Thomas that project of yours is bringing to you more than just an audiophile dream end. It gives you time to spare with people you care. Thumbs up for that and greeting from France! ;)
Kt88 and 6550 tubes are amazing, but EL34s are the bomb, absolutely the way to go with tubes. Anyway, you are both two of my favorite UA-cam stereo guys.
I love it and already subscribe to both of your channels. I’m glad to see that you are both friends. Each of you do a great job! Good luck with the amplifier!
Excellent I’m so happy for Thomas that he’s coming out with a fantastic product I would not have to think twice or have a buyers remorse because I love him his honesty and also Jay he’s the guy I will trust with my life once again congratulations
I think it wonderful that Thomas I worrying about the amp being bright And addressing the problem in advance, I'm definitely intrigued... Great review, thank you.
I think that it's really cool to see that it has tone controls, which i find very useful and are unfortunately missing in too much gear these days, because of the myth that they degrade the sound quality. In response to that I say McIntosh, Luxman, and Marantz all have tone controls. I also like that it has line in and out, sub out, a remote, and auto bias. Very cool feature set. The only thing missing is a triode/pentode switch
Yes... But, you can defeat them 😁 BTW, you notice the names of the ones you mention that DO have tone controls... all older models usually. ANY additional components in the signal path CAN degrade the signal and usually does. In over 40 years, I never use them (but, I have to admit that I *DO* cheat a little by having a bi-amped system where my high end tall open baffle dipole multi-driver line arrays are driven by an Ayon Orion II integrated tube amp and the 2-15" dipole woofers are driven by a bridged Crown 2502 amp - so, I can cheat a little by raising the volume of the Crown if I want more 'bass', BUT... without actually changing or shifting the 'pure' tone signature) BUT... again, with that said, some people like you with their personal system and room configuration DO indeed like to use tone controls, so I am NOT saying that is 'wrong' or anything. But, to say categorically that *ANY* degradation by tone controls is a 'MYTH' is patently wrong my friend, sorry 😊
@@latheofheaven BS! Current Mac, Luxman, and Marantz amps all have tone controls. Keep drinking the "audiofool" Kool-Aid if it makes you happy. Let's do a blind test with one of them and see if you can hear the difference between the tone controls defeated and them active but in the center position. Both you and I know you won't be able to hear a idfference, but you'll never admit it. 🤡
@@DougMen1 Marantz receivers have a switch called Pure Direct that eliminates all tone controls and unnecessary circuits. Switching that on and off definitely makes a difference and sounds better with my Revel speakers. It’s not subtle.
Nice to see this amp come to life. I'd be very curious to see a comparison between Galion, Primaluna, Line Magnetic, and Willlenston as they all seem to be very well designed, well built, and capable of delivering very good sound for the $$$. I have personally owned Primaluna and Line Magnetic and was surprised by how different they sounded.
I have been saying this for years, the room is the most important component in an audio system. Room treatment is not an option for the best sound. People spend thousands on equipment and totally ignore the room.
It is 100% true the room is the most important aspect of getting the best sound of your system, if the room sounds like crap your system sounds like crap there is no way around this than to have acoustic treatments. Now do you have to spend an arm and a leg for the acoustic treatments? No you can make them yourself, use existing furniture and or things around your house . Those who make up excuses about room treatments are shortchanging themselves then they turn around and complain they their gear is no good 🤷🏽
Great honest assessment. What really bothers me with tube equipment is that sound quality is quite dependent on the quality of the tubes used. Is it not possible to have tube equipment that sound quality is not variable with tube used?
There are some tube amps I get from China that rolling tubes does not do anything. We think it is because the amp is so coloured that no matter what we do,the sound does not change.
Hello Jay. Do you think that you could post a video explaining what you did with your front wall as far as the acoustic properties, the effects of the structure itself and why something like that is so expensive? It really peaked my interest especially when Thomas had mentioned the overall cost of that structure. I think others may enjoy the acoustic science and implementation.
Thank you for your video! Your review helped me decide to call Black Ice and they were great! Within 30 minutes of asking if I could purchase an F35 with KT170 tubes they updated the website with the kt170 option and I immediately purchased one! I can not wait to hear my Klipsch Heresy IVs with this amp. I am upgrading from a Cayin CS88a which I just listed on ebay.
Really nice ! I follow both of your channels. I would like to know the specs of your QRD on the wall ? Are they prime 7 with 2 inches wide by 4 inches deep wells ? Thank you.
Great first impressions, Jay. I appreciate your honesty in the sound of this amp. Speaker pairing is an important consideration if a person is to buy this amp. My biggest takeaway was the tube rolling. I understand production cost and maybe Thomas may want to reconsider either the output tube or possibly the tubes which drives the preamp portion.
I enjoy how Thomas gets many opinions on his amp. Also it is cool how his reviews include input from his friends. I am curious if you have done much tube rolling on the small signal tubes. Sometimes mixing brands is best. Also I would try 5751 tubes in place of 12ax7. Sadly 5751 are getting rare. 5751 is lower gain drop in replacement for 12ax7. They can perform better in some applications.
Great video guys. Wish you could do more together. I use the tad 6550s too and I really like them also. Thomas doing some major ass kissing calling Jay an expert. Just kidding,you guys rock. I bet the amp rocks too...
I've had the ts120(tried the SE and sounded too solid state) since the beginning, and tried upgrading with pricier options. Very hard to replace unless you spend much much more in my opinion
How did I miss this one! You two together is really helpful. I am investigating the Decware now but, this is interesting too. I think I like the same sound signature you do. I like a warmer, vintage sound. Tannoy with McIntosh for example but, the McIntosh are out of my price range. I can get a pair of Cheviots (newer version) for about half off right now.
I have owned many Conrad Johnson tube amps which have used the 6550 tubes and I believe the 6550 is the most natural sounding tube for an output stage.
Hi Jay, nice review. I build the CSS 2TD-X partially based on your recommendation of the 1TD-X. (Wonderful speakers btw!). How do you think this amp would pair with either of those? Is there another one you would recommend?
Congrats Thomas. Liking the Galion more and more. OK, so my bad, but what tubes exactly are being mentioned, more so the one preferred by Jay. Thanks in advance. Cheers!
Give this video a thumbs up for Thomas and his great efforts and accomplishments
Galion TS120: www.galion-audio.com/?fbclid=IwAR3CXWBi5IVMEPtwi0HAtWHB4DjhCspZrIus1z2qXBaV1cTejYSHVfQAqro
Thomas' video on Galion: ua-cam.com/video/kLC01GyligA/v-deo.html
Galion youtube channel: ua-cam.com/channels/LqnHukMeaXpm0CTeQZczbQ.html
Thomas' youtube channel: ua-cam.com/channels/MVtSHXafOEcFN10FYygDTA.html
Can you tell us how your front wall is treated and where you sourced the treatment? Thanks.
Hey Jay, can I get a tour of your room? Looks very impressive!
@HVAC Quality Assurance $350 is the 10% deposit
One year warranty
Two of my favorite people in audio. Nice to see you join forces for this one!
Nice to see you guys, spending time together. You see, Thomas that project of yours is bringing to you more than just an audiophile dream end. It gives you time to spare with people you care. Thumbs up for that and greeting from France! ;)
and yeah Jay you rock!
Thomas has a great channel, and now he has a great amp.
Thomas is the man. Glad you two got together to make this video!
It’s so nice of you to have your dad on your channel😂
Hi Jay and Thomas
Great review so good to see you both, I wish Thomas all the success enjoy that barbecue
Omg, it’s so good to see you guys together!!
Glad to see the two of you together!! Great overall review! Good luck, Thomas!
That’s the way to do a review Cookout and Music ! That’s as goo as it gets , good music and good friends ! Everyone should be so Blessed !
Happy for Thomas - all the best!
So glad to see a collaboration of you two. Great respect to both of you! Love your channels, and let us continue our journeys in audio.
My two favorite UA-camrs and reviewers talking about tubes and Korean BBQ, life is good
Really happy for you Thomas ☺️ glad to see how well received the amp is.
Love the collab I respect both of you’re guys opinions highly
Enjoyable review! Great to see you and Thomas together.
Love both you guys! Looking forward to more of the same. Thanks for your honesty and straight talk regarding audiophile matters...
Two of the best together! What more can one ask...!
I’m sure everyone that is fortunate enough to get this amplifier will love it.
Or they can send it to us 🤗😁😍😍😍
Fantastic review, by both Jay and Thomas, I wish you great success with your endevour into the audiophile world of tube amps. Very cool indeed.
Happy you guys did this, great job!
Kt88 and 6550 tubes are amazing, but EL34s are the bomb, absolutely the way to go with tubes. Anyway, you are both two of my favorite UA-cam stereo guys.
Good to see both of you guys in comparing the review , Kudos to jay & thomas !
This was great. I really enjoyed it. Thank you Jay and Thomas.
I love it and already subscribe to both of your channels. I’m glad to see that you are both friends. Each of you do a great job! Good luck with the amplifier!
Excellent I’m so happy for Thomas that he’s coming out with a fantastic product I would not have to think twice or have a buyers remorse because I love him his honesty and also Jay he’s the guy I will trust with my life once again congratulations
Really wanting this tube amp. I’m planning to go to Canada 🇨🇦 this summer for vacation.
The crossover we've all been waiting for
Avengers Endgame who?
Good to see you both together. Great discussion on the amp BTW.
Great initiative Thomas. You are taking all the right steps to get your product dialed in and to create demand in the market.
Good to see my 2 fav reviewers together. Thomas, I hope you can bring a more budget oriented integrated amp to the market in the future :)
You guys are great. You are appreciated and loved, almost as much as my Jindo.
Jay I love tubes and tube amps. Balanced amps is truly my taste. Room createates one sound
I think it wonderful that Thomas I worrying about the amp being bright And addressing the problem in advance, I'm definitely intrigued... Great review, thank you.
Damn If I wasn't more into Headphones than speakers I would get this amp. It is right up my Alley with the depth and the sweet Class A mode
You two are really good together. In this case 1 + 1 = 5 .
I think that it's really cool to see that it has tone controls, which i find very useful and are unfortunately missing in too much gear these days, because of the myth that they degrade the sound quality. In response to that I say McIntosh, Luxman, and Marantz all have tone controls. I also like that it has line in and out, sub out, a remote, and auto bias. Very cool feature set. The only thing missing is a triode/pentode switch
Yes... But, you can defeat them 😁 BTW, you notice the names of the ones you mention that DO have tone controls... all older models usually. ANY additional components in the signal path CAN degrade the signal and usually does. In over 40 years, I never use them (but, I have to admit that I *DO* cheat a little by having a bi-amped system where my high end tall open baffle dipole multi-driver line arrays are driven by an Ayon Orion II integrated tube amp and the 2-15" dipole woofers are driven by a bridged Crown 2502 amp - so, I can cheat a little by raising the volume of the Crown if I want more 'bass', BUT... without actually changing or shifting the 'pure' tone signature)
BUT... again, with that said, some people like you with their personal system and room configuration DO indeed like to use tone controls, so I am NOT saying that is 'wrong' or anything. But, to say categorically that *ANY* degradation by tone controls is a 'MYTH' is patently wrong my friend, sorry 😊
100%
@@latheofheaven BS! Current Mac, Luxman, and Marantz amps all have tone controls. Keep drinking the "audiofool" Kool-Aid if it makes you happy. Let's do a blind test with one of them and see if you can hear the difference between the tone controls defeated and them active but in the center position. Both you and I know you won't be able to hear a idfference, but you'll never admit it. 🤡
@@DougMen1 Marantz receivers have a switch called Pure Direct that eliminates all tone controls and unnecessary circuits. Switching that on and off definitely makes a difference and sounds better with my Revel speakers. It’s not subtle.
*MOST* impressive and quite wonderful, good for you Gentlemen! 👍
Nice to see this amp come to life. I'd be very curious to see a comparison between Galion, Primaluna, Line Magnetic, and Willlenston as they all seem to be very well designed, well built, and capable of delivering very good sound for the $$$. I have personally owned Primaluna and Line Magnetic and was surprised by how different they sounded.
of those two what did you prefer? what kind of differences
@@williamdwyer3856 I wanna know too
Class A/B v Class A comparison & the valve shootout makes this a very polite review for overall neutrality of the amp.
I have been saying this for years, the room is the most important component in an audio system. Room treatment is not an option for the best sound. People spend thousands on equipment and totally ignore the room.
It is around %60 in my opinion, am I exaggerating or would u agree?
Thanks for sharing something that's been audiophile common sense for decades.
Everyone says that.
It is 100% true the room is the most important aspect of getting the best sound of your system, if the room sounds like crap your system sounds like crap there is no way around this than to have acoustic treatments. Now do you have to spend an arm and a leg for the acoustic treatments? No you can make them yourself, use existing furniture and or things around your house .
Those who make up excuses about room treatments are shortchanging themselves then they turn around and complain they their gear is no good 🤷🏽
@@Audiofreak71 This is so true. Even a simple old, cheap or vintage system will sound much better with a nicely treated or positioned room.
"Amplefire" -classic Jay
Big T, please use these with pop music and classical. The two most different types. Two of my favorite audioholics!
Great honest assessment.
What really bothers me with tube equipment is that sound quality is quite dependent on the quality of the tubes used.
Is it not possible to have tube equipment that sound quality is not variable with tube used?
That’s not how it works.
There are some tube amps I get from China that rolling tubes does not do anything. We think it is because the amp is so coloured that no matter what we do,the sound does not change.
@@ThomasAndStereo For example? Please.
@@ThomasAndStereo or they are not really tube amps ;-)
@@bertroost1675 The Yaqin MS 6V6 I have here at my place for example has this problem. Put crazy expesnive 6V6 in and does nothing.
Awesome content dudes! Luv both u guys!
Hi Jay, those TAD6550 are current production tubes right? Not NOS.
They are actually NOS Svetlana Winged C tubes, they still have some left 6550C-SVT rather than their 6550A-STR
It looks very nice. How many dB of feedback are you using?
Hello Jay. Do you think that you could post a video explaining what you did with your front wall as far as the acoustic properties, the effects of the structure itself and why something like that is so expensive? It really peaked my interest especially when Thomas had mentioned the overall cost of that structure. I think others may enjoy the acoustic science and implementation.
yaah!.................love that your amp is a success , you 2 are the top of the tree ,
in audio reviews , don't ever quit.
I wonder how some Sophia Electric KT88’s sound with this amp! Nice tube amp!
IKR I use those in my McIntosh 75 monoblocks and they're awesome. And bonus---I like the lightish blue color.
My favorite tube combo is 2x TAD str8 2x Golden lion ohh my ! OHH Thomas shirt uploaded who says you have to use all the same kt88/6550 !! Thanks Jay
I'm either buying the Gallion st 120 special edition or the Brunoco 6l6? Reviewing amps. I like that Thomas has put tone controls on his amp!!
Congratulations Thomas!
It’s like Batman & Superman in the same video!!! 🌃
So… who’s the batman and who’s the superman
tone controls are rare and very nice to have.
I still want to hear about the tests with GR speaker cables.
Nice collaboration, long live Canada. You guys are the best, enjoy some bulgogi and maekjeok!
Thank you for your video! Your review helped me decide to call Black Ice and they were great! Within 30 minutes of asking if I could purchase an F35 with KT170 tubes they updated the website with the kt170 option and I immediately purchased one! I can not wait to hear my Klipsch Heresy IVs with this amp. I am upgrading from a Cayin CS88a which I just listed on ebay.
Awesome surprise, 2 of my favorite reviewers! Great job guys! Excellent Tube Amp. I hope one day, you will review my new technology device...
Those TAD branded 6550s appear to be NOS Svetlana Winged C, so an older tube from TAD, these days they use a GE reissue.
100 percent correct
Thomas is the man!
Nice team work, thanks Gentlemen.
Ive always wondered if you can get away with horns near field or large speakers in a small rooms with the right room treatment 🤔
Really nice ! I follow both of your channels. I would like to know the specs of your QRD on the wall ? Are they prime 7 with 2 inches wide by 4 inches deep wells ? Thank you.
Jay and Thomas walk into a bar…
Great first impressions, Jay. I appreciate your honesty in the sound of this amp. Speaker pairing is an important consideration if a person is to buy this amp. My biggest takeaway was the tube rolling. I understand production cost and maybe Thomas may want to reconsider either the output tube or possibly the tubes which drives the preamp portion.
Awesome review guys!
I enjoy how Thomas gets many opinions on his amp. Also it is cool how his reviews include input from his friends. I am curious if you have done much tube rolling on the small signal tubes. Sometimes mixing brands is best. Also I would try 5751 tubes in place of 12ax7. Sadly 5751 are getting rare. 5751 is lower gain drop in replacement for 12ax7. They can perform better in some applications.
Would be nice to have a link to the product
Love to see you two together. Would love to review the AMP myself. It would be a lot of fun.
very nice/trendy industrial "machine" design
Great video guys. Wish you could do more together. I use the tad 6550s too and I really like them also. Thomas doing some major ass kissing calling Jay an expert. Just kidding,you guys rock. I bet the amp rocks too...
Looking forward to hearing this amp!
But also, when are you going to review the Luxman M900u?
Did I miss it? What is the output? And is there a remote?
THOMASSSSSSS IS IN THA IYAGI!
let's have a look under the hood ! if it sounds too bright, you might want to try carbon film resistors in the preamp stage.
Hola, please, a question, how long do the tubes last approximately in time? gracias from CHILE
I've had the ts120(tried the SE and sounded too solid state) since the beginning, and tried upgrading with pricier options. Very hard to replace unless you spend much much more in my opinion
You guys are great. Is there anyway to treat a room similar to how Jay's room is for a fraction of that 30k?
Video coming soon ;) I’ll share the secret
@@Jayiyagi I thought you told us in this video already, begging, begging, and begging 😂.
@@niclu6848 there’s an art to begging ;)
@@Jayiyagi bought a r800i after watching your video. Now you make me want to try this. Have you had any chance comparing the two?
@@Jayiyagi hahaha yes! some of us are professionals! 🤣
I'm curious about that diffuser and the manufacturers justification for the price.
How do you think Mullard el34 tubes would sound with this amp?
Aesthetically very pleasing
Jay, could you compare it to the Gato monoblocks?
How did I miss this one! You two together is really helpful. I am investigating the Decware now but, this is interesting too. I think I like the same sound signature you do. I like a warmer, vintage sound. Tannoy with McIntosh for example but, the McIntosh are out of my price range. I can get a pair of Cheviots (newer version) for about half off right now.
Hi jay.. What kind of diffuser that you using on the front wall?
😊 It's one thing to be a Proud Father, like Thomas. But hearing praise from others... well that's another story.
Fantastic .. Nice to see you guys. Locals getting together. I wish.
I have owned many Conrad Johnson tube amps which have used the 6550 tubes and I believe the 6550 is the most natural sounding tube for an output stage.
What is that grey diffusor in the back?
Hi Jay, nice review. I build the CSS 2TD-X partially based on your recommendation of the 1TD-X. (Wonderful speakers btw!). How do you think this amp would pair with either of those? Is there another one you would recommend?
How would the Galion compare to a Vincent Tube Amplifier? Which one to choose? :)
Congrats Thomas. Liking the Galion more and more. OK, so my bad, but what tubes exactly are being mentioned, more so the one preferred by Jay. Thanks in advance. Cheers!
I follow you both ! This is a good feedback
Thomas is the Boss !
Beautiful ample.
500 shipping. Is that pesos or rubles?
The ultimate cross over! (see the pun?)
I was surprised to see how much TS120 cost compared to almost all of the tube amps that Jay and Thomas have reviewed on their channels.
I see a Korean BBQ spinoff UA-cam channel in your future!
(Like ‘hot ones’ or other series?).
Awesome review. Enjoy the chow.
Let me know when you come out with an integrated amplifier I'll buy one