I want to take a minute to appreciate the performances of everyone involved in Twin Peaks The Return. If not for them The Return would not have been as good as it was. It was both an honour and a privilege to watch new and old actors work together to give us this masterpiece. Here's hoping to a Season 4 and more from the brilliant mind of David Lynch and Mark Frost :)
I think Bad Coop is pretty quirky and interesting, as he pretty much has the stereotypical traits of the bad guy: cold, taciturn, remorseless; but he's also able to deal with people in a very practical, calm, almost humane manner. He didn't look like pure evil to me, but more like a lost soul. Plus, that tan, greasy hair; made him look like a mix between Bob and Renegade who did a redface, almost to make him look like the anti-Hawk, the opposite of the ultimate good guy, a forced caricature. These two actually have quite similar traits: calm and well-thought, taciturn, remarkable tracking abilities; native american traits, one natural, the other artificial/manufactured.
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She was a medical examiner or coroner, not a "mortician woman."
The great thing about the abstract, open-ended finale is that you can picture all of these different and unique scenarios. My own interpretation is that Cooper didn't really leave The Lodge until episode 18. There's an FBI pin on Cooper's lapel that only appears during certain scenes this season. It's there before he gets sucked into the electrical outlet, but then it disappears when he materializes in Las Vegas. The pin makes a reappearance after the scene in the Sheriff's station where everything becomes black. My theory is that the Cooper with the pin is the real Cooper, and that the Cooper without the pin is a dream Cooper. Basically I think that there is a dream being projected into the mind of the real Cooper while he is in The Lodge, and the "Dougie" Cooper we see from episodes 3 to 17 is a projection that the real Cooper is controlling from within The Lodge. I think basically the whole season was a dream. But, I think that dreams that happen from within The Lodge actually happen in the real world, because The Lodge is such a mysterious place of power, and it's possible that dreams in The Lodge have a real effect on reality, or those dreams even create realities. That would certainly be an amazing power, and it would make sense why people like Windom Earle wanted to find The Lodge, so that they could use that power. By the way, I just say "The Lodge", because I believe the White and Black Lodges are two sides of the same coin, and that they basically occupy the same space (which is why there are both dark and light lines on the floor). The Giant even appears to Cooper in The Lodge at the end of season 2 and he says "One and the same". Anyways, I think it's actually The Fireman who was projecting this dream into Cooper's mind, because there's a lot of stuff that goes on this season that I doubt would come from Cooper's subconscious - such as the origin story of Judy and Bob. I believe a lot of this season / dream was The Fireman informing Cooper of things he needed to know. But like I said, I think these Lodge dreams have a real effect on the world. After all, we clearly saw "real" results from the events taking place in the dream - such as the doppelganger ending up back in the lodge, and Diane being "awoken" (which is why she was waiting for him when he REALLY exited the lodge at the beginning of Episode 18). I mean, the arm did tell Cooper that he couldn't leave until his doppelganger returned, so of course Cooper never really left in Episode 3. I also believe that beings that reside in the lodge basically live on forever, which is why Mike wanted to have Laura put on the ring, so that she would live on after Bob killed her (I believe Mike works for The Fireman, because he talks about seeing the face of God and being changed). Laura even appears to Dale this season and says "I am dead, and yet I live". I think her essence being a part of The Lodge is what made it possible for Cooper to travel back in time and alter her past. I also think that Cooper is actually a denizen of the White Lodge. I think the power to dream and alter reality would be reserved for the ascended beings that reside in the White Lodge. Also, the ending of FWWM with the Angel seems to indicate that Cooper had become an Agent of the White Lodge, and was helping Laura's essence ascend to the White Lodge. Laura is certainly a denizen of the White Lodge in this season, since she opens her face and you see a pure, white light. And another reason I think Dale is actually a denizen of the White Lodge is that Dale talks about Major Briggs (a denizen of the White Lodge) talking to him, and telling him things - like where to find the room key that would lead him to Phillip Jeffries (so Major Briggs could also be partly influencing this dream). We certainly see Cooper in the White Lodge talking to the Fireman (although he doesn't have his pin, but I believe that scene takes place right before the projection / dream version is transferred back to the real Cooper in the scene where he tells Diane to wait for him outside of the curtains). In that scene, the Fireman does say to Cooper "It is in OUR house now", meaning the Cooper is indeed a resident of the White Lodge. And I think The Fireman is talking about Judy now being a part of the White Lodge, which fits with a theory I have about a "Gray Lodge". I think any part of the White Lodge that Judy inhabits would become Gray, with the Mix of the Lodge's lightness and her darkness. I think Judy took a part of the White Lodge, and created the "Gray Lodge", which she trapped Laura in (snatching her away when Cooper was trying to lead her back home). When this happens, The Fireman tells Cooper to travel to the Gray Lodge with Diane, to become Richard and Linda, and kill two birds with one stone by sealing the portal with the act of making love (a ritual that is explained in Mark Frost's book), and to find Laura and try to destroy Judy with Laura. The Fireman did create Laura to destroy Judy, which is why I think Judy sent her son (Bob) to kill Laura, and Bob was also sent to possess Cooper, because Judy knew Cooper would be an Agent of the White Lodge / The Fireman. If you're wondering why Judy just can't kill Laura or Dale, like I said, I don't think she can truly kill anyone who has become a part of The Lodge. That's why there's a shot of Sarah (possessed by Judy) smashing Laura's picture, yet the picture never tears. She's of course mad in that scene, because she can sense the two biggest dangers to her existence (Dale and Laura) coming together. Anyways, here are some reasons that I think that world in the last episodes is basically a "Gray Lodge". People in this reality seem to be an even mix of their dark and light sides. Cooper sees the Horse on Laura's mantle, and I believe that Horse represents a "middle ground". "The Horse is the white of the eyes, and the dark within." Cooper in this reality is cold towards Diane, and the first thing he says to her is "turn the light off". Also, I swear his eyes are dark again during the love making scene. When he wakes up, the motel has changed from a one level motel into a two level motel, so basically another layer was added (the darkness). In the restaurant, Cooper drinks the coffee, but isn't thrilled with it. He saves the waitress, but is very brutal about it. He then demands that she write down something for him, and he's holding a gun while doing that, but he never points it directly at her. Cooper also chooses to ignore the dead body in Laura's house. Laura herself, and all of the other people in this world seem to also be even mixes of evil and good. Laura did kill someone, after all, and you have people like the old couple at the restaurant acting nonchalant about the violence, and the woman at the Palmer house being really cold towards Cooper, while also being helpful. I basically think this world has been corrupted with Judy's wrath, because "Odessa" stands for "Wrathful", and Odessa is where Laura was placed. Odessa also comes from the word "Odyssey", and this is apparently Cooper's last obstacle to complete his mission. I also love the symbolism of them driving by the Double R Diner when it's closed down. This is a place that brought Cooper a lot of joy, and while that place still exists, there is now a darkness within it. I think that sums up the world they're in. The long, silent driving scenes are also something that became synonymous with Mr. C, and he doesn't even respond to Laura when she's talking to him. The "two birds with one stone" saying may also refer to both episodes being released at once, and basically how they're both just non-linear parts of the same ending, like puzzle pieces that are need to be put in their proper place. "Is it future or is it past?". Some people even theorize that the true last scene of the series is in the Sheriff's office, and that the reunion between Diane and Cooper in that scene happened after the events of the "Richard and Linda" or "Gray Lodge" world, and that the ending is basically that timeline being reset, because Laura was saved and Judy was destroyed, so Cooper never ended up going to Twin Peaks, so all of the events of Seasons 1 and 2 and Fire Walk With Me never happened. Anyways, it's fun talking about different theories. I don't know which theory I like best, yet. Some are very depressing. Even the theory that Cooper succeeded is depressing in many ways, since it basically means that Seasons 1, 2 and FWWM didn't happen. I'm hoping that it is just the case and Cooper and Laura are trapped in this "Gray" world. I think "Richard" is the most fascinating incarnation of Cooper. It would be really interesting to see more of this Cooper, who is basically a vessel for both the good and evil Coopers. It could be that Judy knew the best way to neutralize the people who threaten her most, Laura and Cooper, was to trap them in a world where they would constantly be struggling between their light and dark selves. That's an exciting concept if you ask me, and something that would be worth exploring in a future season.
I don't buy this "Gray Lodge" theory, but everything else sounds pretty good.. I would add this: I think, that the disappearance of the Cooper from the Lodge is same as re-appearance in the woods, and "You are far away" maybe mean, that Cooper must be sent from "now" to the past to save Laura.. "It is in our house now" is maybe Mr. C in cage in White Lodge or something else, but it sounds like "now is the right time to execute our plan", which may be - going to past, save Laura.. What happend after crossing dimension "once we crosse, it could all be different", so it is.. sealing or whatever was the sex scene happened in different year, maybe 1949 ?! and after the night, the next morning was different time (and everything in matter of fact) again (probably 2014+, because of the real life owner of the house, RR dinner, etc..) "everything is different".. Linda (Diane) now maybe doesn't like Richard (Cooper), so she left with a goodbye note, the motel have a second floor now, the Cooper's car is modern one, Cooper is now Richard and Richard is not into coffee that much and he not even have white knight syndrom, Laura is now Carie, etc..
Currently re-watching the whole series. Instantly found it curious when cooper is throwing the rocks at bottles, that the line of Lauras Diary that is being referred is:"Nervous about meeting "J" tonight". The Dimension changes make so much sense when you see how dreamlike the city of twin peaks and its inhabitants are.
There's a white horse (mechanical ride thingie) in front of Judy's too. Also the 6 power pole is from FWWM too, it's in the trailer park outside of Teresa Banks' trailer.
Pete you've really rounded into form here buddy. Your early Twin Peaks videos were effective summaries and whatnot, but in the last few episodes and especially in your treatment of this unprecedentedly difficult finale, you've been stellar. I've seen your skills as a thinker and voicer grow dramatically in these last three months or so, and I can't help but wonder if Twin Peaks hasn't done the same for all of us who have followed it closely and given ourselves over to it. I certainly feel my mind working in different ways, analyzing life from different perspectives than I did before the Return started airing. If that's true, then it's about the greatest confirmation of a work's value that any work is likely to get. That is, assuming I'm not the only one. And I don't think I am. As for more Twin Peaks videos, all I can do is give you my assurance: If you make them, I will watch them.
I'm glad you mentioned the model of car because none of the theories I've seen seem willing to grapple with the question of why Cooper and Diane's journey from Glastonbury Grove to the motel appears to take place in a timeline completely unrelated to anything else we've been exposed to.
It looks like Carrie Page/Laura Palmer's blinking in the final scene is very similar to Dougie Coop's. Might suggest that Laura Palmer has taken on the Carrie Page identity (and in the process has forgotten who she is) in a similar way to Cooper taking on Dougie's.
My theory: (1) The ONLY way to defeat Judy was through Laura. It was established in episode 8, and that's may me the reason for Laura's demise in the first run of the series; (2) When Cooper intervenes and stops Laura from meeting Leo and Jacques, Judy reacts by abducting Laura and hiding her in the other dimension; (3) Richard and Linda were a way for Cooper to enter the "final dimension" where Laura was. It was devised beforehand by Cooper and the Giant, as if they knew what Judy would do somehow; (4) Cooper entered a dimension and to get to the "final dimension" he has sex with Diane (this was somehow required, I still don't think of a reason why; (5) As soon as Cooper wakes up, he is now Richard, so deceiving Judy and entering this final dimension; and he is now in Texas; (6) He uses his intuition or instructions by the Giant to find Laura, but she was convinced that she is not Laura, and so not able to fulfill her destiny to destroy Judy; (7) "The horse is the white of the eye" is like a premonition of the woodsmen and is reflected in the horse in the mantel (it may mean that the girl that swallows the moth is Sarah Palmer; (8) Cooper takes Laura home, which is the same but slightly different; (9) Judy put the descendants of the old lady somehow in charge of the Palmer house, and Cooper gets confused, almost outsmarted by Judy; (10) At last, Laura remembers, screams, and in remembering fulfills her destiny and destroys Judy, which is represented by the electrical sounds and the darkness that follows, ending the final dimension. That's it, what do you think? =)
Steven Spielberg I suppose it's Lynch's way of establishing that although Cooper saved Laura from Bob, the past is still somehow written. Remeber that he says that the past dictates the future. I guess Sarah calling for Laura is a way of telling us that the narrative wasn't "erased" despite the lime loop.
I've got it. It's a twenty track album featuring all the roadhouse performances (including James's song), plus The Paris sisters, The Platters, Shawn Colvin, Booker. T. and the MG's, ZZ top and Otis Redding as well as the Twin peaks theme. It's a great listen.
Missed thing number 11 might be that Laura didn't know what year it was either. That's how her reaction to his question appeared to me. Something about that realization brought back of flood of memories. I'm choosing to believe (at this point) that this was a victorious moment and Judy was extinguished when the electricity stopped.
Spahny1 The fact that neither were able to give a year gives credence to the theory that this universe was constructed solely for the purpose of trapping Judy (a bit like an elaborate film set) who could then be destroyed along with the pocket universe itself as seems to happen when the lights go out at the end
@ This was perfect ending to Twin Peaks, for many reasons. Lynch would rather give us something that lasts, that really make us think, feel and remember the story/art. This whole season has been antidote to modern TV and society that lacks imagination, patience, and really ability to think effectively. As Einstein said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution."
just finished the simultaneous watch and, while i agree with you it doesn't really 'answer' any burning questions watching it this way, the majority of it syncs up incredibly well and i think as an audio and visual experience on its own it's actually quite poignant and moving and adds atmospheric depth to an already great pair of episodes. the audio sync especially is spot on. i mean i don't know if it's intentional sure... it would be extremely difficult to achieve... but damn it really feels special watching these two things overlap one another. please give it a chance everyone who is dubious !
"The Horse Is The White Of The Eyes And Dark Within" feels like it's connected to the entities in the Black Lodge e.g Laura and Leland in the last episode of Season 2. They have white eyes and have darkness within them.
Pete, you're doing a great job. As a longtime TP fan, I'm still learning a lot from you. I'm going to support you on Patreon. Can't promise much for long, but you deserve it!
Only at the the very end of this last episode of season 3, no electrical audio noise is heard when the Lynch/Frost Productions logo is shown. It is heard on all of the other previous 17 episodes. Any possible meaning to this?
yes THERE IS AN EXPLANATION TO THIS. First it has the literal sense, the show is over. Second, electricity in twin peaks means "flows of ideas", and the literal sense of continuing the mistery and the story. It basically means twin peaks died
I think Lynch wanted this, like his other works, like art yielding different interpretations. Three of my favorite are that Richard was the dreamer, he awoke preoccupied with finding Laura, found a coincidental doppelganger, and drove out to TP and got spooked by that universe reaching out. This kind of connects with the 2nd that Cooper's quest for Laura will be a never-ending loop with variations. Third is that Ep 18 is a sort of commentary on the preoccupation that viewers have with Laura and the series, virtually living in TP, and will keep the story alive in their hearts and minds (they are also the dreamers). Lots of interpretations besides these.
There have been some great moments of humor too. As always most of these have come from the mouth of Albert, but Lynch has given himself some of the best ones: On seeing Hastings with his head removed he declares "He's dead!". LOL And when Albert says to Gordon Cole: "I think you're getting soft in your old age" and Cole replies: "Not where it matters buddy!!".... just brilliant.
One thing to contemplate is Coopers meeting with Laura Palmer in the waiting room. Cooper asks her if she's Laura Palmer and she does not immediately say yes but instead says she feels like she knows her. Why would she say that unless the incarnation we see in the waiting room is not Laura but in fact Carrie Page or some other yet unseen variant of Laura. If that's true it totally jumbles up the timeline a lot. And it brings doubt as to what reality or dimension is actually the real one, if there is even such a thing as a real one. It's also possible that what Cooper encounters in the waiting room is just the pure essence decoupled from whatever personality that was stamped on it. It Carrie Page and Laura but it's also not.
One thing you might have missed Pete. In many theories, like yours, people note that "Cooper wakes up in a different motel". Or "motel changes overnight". No. Cooper wakes up in a same room he had sex with Diane. But in the NEXT scene (when cooper exits some another hotel) the room is another one because door opens in different direction, window is on the different side of the door. (if you compare the room where Cooper WAKES UP to the room which Cooper EXITS). So the "leaving a motel scene" does not actually happen right after "waking up after Diane-sex-motel" scene in real timeline. Even though Lynch shows them one after another. So "Cooper wakes up scene" is different day than the day which starts story of Cooper exiting some motel, roasts guns in Judy's and finds Carrie Page. These 2 motel scenes may be even 10 years apart and happen in totally different locations...or in totally different alternate realities. Nothing magical happens to motel or car etc. It is just that scenes are not represented in chronological order. Like Lynch said.
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it's just that he looks confused when he looks at the "new" motel, we spend some time there with coop looking at it. but there seems to be much more important mistery going on, so I guess this motel thing may not even be a thing after all, like you said
The feeling I had watching the finale was "this is what they had to do, and this is what happens when you change the past." But not in a bad way - in a beautiful and melacholic way. I think this has a lot to do with the fans nostalgia, as well.
In rewatching the last episode when Laura is standing outside her old house and when she screams she has a necklace on. The necklace has a horseshoe on it which is interesting as it relates to the horse aka Judy.
One thing I noticed was the sound that the giant in the first scene pointed out to Cooper, the "listen to the sounds" sound from the old record player. I think it's just a record grain scratching sound myself. When Cooper is leading Laura through the woods at the end of 17 and he says "We're going home" when the camera switches to just Coop and Laura disappears you hear that giant scratchy sound and then Laura disappears and we get the classic scream. You can hear the scratching sound dominantly hear because all the ambient sound is muted for that moment. In 18 when Laura is literally being led "home" by Coop, right before he steps forward in the street and asks "What year is this?" the same scratchy sound is there for a moment. The background noice is not muted this time so it's a little harder to hear. I watch with headphones on and very loud so it stood out to me. I've meant to go back and see if the parts 17 and 18 times between scratchy sound-Laura's scream sync up like other mirrored scenes in the show, but I haven't gotten to it yet. I won't fake to have a clue of the meaning of this. I have a guess, but just thought it was worth note as I haven't seen this in any rway caps including yours. Maybe in crazy and hearing things, lol.
Joe V Exactly. I'm new to Twin Peaks because my brother got me I to it and I couldn't stop watching them. I just started season one and it's freaking amazing, Coop is such a goof and I love him! Lucy cracks me up every scene she's in so yeah, I didn't understand the Twin Peaks mania back then but I do now. There will be plenty of people going back and watching these for the first time right along with the original fans.
Hey Pete. Thanks so much for your videos. I'm not sure if anyone noticed this, but Laura appeared to be wearing a necklace that resembled the symbol on Major Garland's slip of paper that Bobby discovered.
It is a horse shoe on her necklace - I thought it looked a bit like the broken heart half that she and James had - the half circle. But, your interpretation is great - I need to see that map again!
I think that the horse is a symbolic representation of the viewer. "The white of the eye and dark within" is a kind of painterly description of the appearance of the eye. In general, the presence of the viewer is a crucial component of understanding Twin Peaks. The show acknowledges the viewer. The super imposed image of Cooper seems to speak directly to the viewer. His statement "We live inside a dream" feels like it applies as much to this side of the screen as it does to that one, and I'm sure that's by design. The horse always appears at moments where "the veil" is thin, so to speak. The viewer is always nearby. Just behind the curtain.
I appreciate that you show us these details because it really does help tie up some loose ends. I just finished reading The Secret History and the clues I found were very helpful. I've settled on my personal interpretation and I'm wondering how much of it will be blown to pieces when The Final Dossier comes out.
the white horse represents death and the plate will be like something orchestrated and intentional to happen. I've watched the 3rd season a long time ago,so theories I dont have right now. But the clock represent that too ,orchestrated something ,timing and prepared.
Pete, it's a good stab at it. Can't say I buy in to all of it. Did make me notice for the first time that, as Cooper at the end seems to lose his way (even getting confused on what year it is), coincides with things appearing to dawn on Laura. I'm not so sure that actually means something, though.
Another thing people might have missed, is Coop's FBI pin. He didn't have it on his jacket when he talked with the Fireman right at the start of the season. But then he had it in the Black Lodge and in the Mauve Zone. But then it disappeared when Coop emerged from the electric outlet. He was still missing it when he came to the sheriff's office, but then it was back on his jacket when they reappeared in the basement of the Great Northern after the blackout at the sheriff's office.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned on YT/Forums/Reddit is the bird on the from facia of the Palmer house is clearly displayed in the scene with BadCoop in the Cage before being transported to the TP Sheriff's Station. I immediately jumped to "two birds one stone" which lends credence to theories of the house/Judy being destroyed by Carrie-Laura's screams. Edit: this is also just came to me. Owls = birds, no? It wasn't touched on much this season but the Owls seemed to represent Bob/Evil in the OG run.
you do good work Pete. You make your videos about the :show"..not about you. Not trying to be a comedian or plaster your face all over the videos....I like your approach. I hate to see the season end...thanks for the videos!
We seem to have a confirmation that the other person in the house in Part 18 was Sarah Palmer, or at least something that used to be Sarah Palmer. When the Palmer house was shown on the outside in Part 2, it preceded a scene that showed boozing Sarah Palmer watching television. The house in Part 2 and Part 18 was exactly the same house, not just on the outside but also in the inside as lamps and curtains and everything we saw in the house was positioned exactly in the same way. This was not recycled footage as the takes were not the same. The time of date differed and the lamps had been turned on differently but the exact likeness was underlined by using the same camera position and angle. The houses were deliberately the exact same house. Then, when Hawk visited Sarah in Part 12 and they had a chat at the door, we are given a good long look at the house. We can immediately see that this was not the exact same house as in Part 2 and Part 18 as the plants in the front of the house were totally different.
Cooper: Do you believe in the soul? Hawk: Several. Cooper: More than one? Hawk: Blackfoot legend. Waking souls that give life to the mind and the body. A dream soul that wanders. Cooper: Dream souls... where do they wander? Hawk: Faraway places. The land of the dead. Cooper: Is that where Laura is? Hawk: Laura's in the ground, Agent Cooper. That's the only thing I'm sure of.
Richard and Linda, my theory/interpretation is: (I typed this in the middle of your video, so sorry if i repeated something you already said) They went back in time (saying the car's speed could be a nod to Back to the Future, for time-travelling). I think they went in the past exactly before it happened, to fix the past incident, which is why it was like a ritual or a duty. Where both people are ok with it, unlike the previous event, where it was forced. But in the morning, unexpectedly, the time changed from that era to present or alternate present and i dont know why their names changed, lets hope we find out somehow. It could be possible that they passed through the portal to get in the body and mind of Mister C and Diane, maybe this is why they act different? Maybe we could try to notice how people talk, to find out who they might or might not be. Like Richard not reacting to coffee, missing RR Diner and saying he is FBA, instead of "Federal Bureau of Investigation", pointing gun at even innocent people and putting guns in the oil.... I think those could be hints. I also thought that putting the Ring on Mister C may have brought his character into Cooper, but not sure if that happens in the lore. Diane covers Richard's face to avoid the memory or possible event about Mister C smiling to her fear. Cooper's eyes stare dead into her and its pretty creepy, especially when the song stops and its just the unsettling drone, until the song starts again and she has her hands on his face. It feels safe to avoid the eyes. And wow, good point at Doppelganger Diane. It could be her from that time, but, that Diane had white hair. But all Dianes have fake looking wings, in the Lodge's theme, except, this one only has black and white nail polish. I think Diane, during the intercourse, felt Cooper not being him, as he stared blank into her and that is why she left. The next morning the time probably changes back to where it should have, as planned, since their sex was done. But the only problem now, their names are as new and they might have gone to the wrong time. I wouldn't say Richard and Linda are the real people and the rest was all a dream, but rather, this is some other reality, mixed with the real world. This might even me the courtyard above the convenience store, the hotel looks similar, but i could be wrong
One thing I've been thinking about is that Coop never have the American flag pin, while every other FBI agent has one along with the FBI pin. Whatever that might mean.
Btw, another thing beside horseshoe necklace that you haven't mentioned here is that this final episode is in the memory of Jack Nance aka Pete Martell & Eraserhead.
On Parsons: Notice it's also a red haired woman, Scarlett woman....which was big with Jack Whiteside Parsons and Majorie Cameron in the Babylon Working.
Does the stuff on the front of his shirt look liked creamed corn to anyone else? (slightly puked up and been there for a while on a dead guy creamed corn, obviously).
I wonder if Judy was in the house. All it took was for Carrie Laura to remember. The power going out is very significant. I'm baffled I didn't put that together. I also recall the firemen looking at the Palmer house before he deposited Evil Coop at the sheriffs station. It would appear that Andy's vision is a key piece as well.
Makes sense that the giant may of constructed it to protect Laura, maybe that's where the gold orb with Laura in it was sent. So when Laura was plucked away near Rabbits Palace it was actually the giant taking her and sending her to this constructed reality. So then why was it shown to Andy? Maybe he has a role in making sure they make it back to their own reality. PLUS the Giant can clearly control people when they enter specific locations and do what he wants with them.
Pete, if this turns out to be the last video that you do on Twin Peaks then thanks for doing them as it added to the experience. Some things that you missed. Also on the mantle piece was a green ball (symbolising Bob) and an overturned thimble (symbolising teapot(?) Jeffries). Laura as Carrie was also wearing an upside down horse shoe round her neck symbolising bad luck, and if linked to the white horse symbolises a nightmare rather than a good ending (sorry). I still think both Coop and Laura couldn't leave the lodge. That Laura's whispered words were "we live inside a dream". That Coop would relive this story until he realised he was in a continuous loop (hence the infinity symbol) and that viewers who rewatch the series are also in the same loop and sharing Coop's experience. That the arm was mocking Coop when he stated "is this the story of the girl who lived down the lane?" i.e. it is a story that the arm is familiar with given Coop will relive it. I agree that episode 17 & 18 needed to be watched together to get the ending. Just one perspective though.
Taken from The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad translated by by Swami Krishnananda. This is where Lynch has taken "We are like the spider. We weave our life and then move along in it. We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream" from. He has also used this quote to describe Inland Empire. "Dreams are occasioned by many causes, by various types of impulses, which are the motive powers behind dream experience. It is not possible to trace back all dreams to a single type of cause. Though it is generally said that a memory of waking life is the cause for the experience in dream, it is only a general statement. It does not mean every kind of dream is caused by memories. Dreams are also caused by other reasons, other factors than what can be merely comprehended by the term 'previous experience'. Someone may be thinking of you very strongly in some distant place. You can have a vision of that person in dream. This is something very strange. If I very strongly think of you, for some reason or the other, you may experience it in your dream, and if the thoughts are intense enough, you may have the same thoughts that I have in my mind at that time. This is because of the intensity of the thought concerned. If the thought of the other person is extremely intense, you may feel that thought even in the waking state, not merely in dream. If the thoughts are powerful enough, even in your waking life you can feel the thoughts of somebody else. These thoughts are communicated to you because of the strength of the thoughts. Generally, such influences are felt more in dream than in waking, because in waking life we have an egoism which is active and which prevents the entry of other thoughts. Your personality is so strong in the waking state, your consciousness of your own self is so intense and your own thoughts influence you to such an extent, that others' thoughts cannot noticeably enter your mind in the waking life, usually. But their entry is easier in dream when the ego is not so active, and their effect is much more in sleep because of the complete withdrawal of the ego in the sleeping condition. Sometimes, other invisible forces may work in your dream if your thoughts during waking in relation to these forces were intense enough." What does any of this mean in relation to Lynch's universe? Well I think plenty. The way key characters in Peaks have entered each others dreams whether it be Coop with Laura etcetera. The way Cooper cries Gordon's name in both with the FWWM scene with Jeffries and in episode 17 beforehand making sure Gordon knows the exact time. Also in both scenes they become mixed with translucent imagery of either jumping man in Jeffries case or Cooper face in episode 17. To think that others can enter your dream state without you relying on memories in the conscious waking state of them before the dream to allow them access into your dreams is quite frightening, but helps understanding all that we have seen in Peaks, whether we are on board with these old esoteric theories about dream and ego states, and how Lynch maybe using them or not.
I noticed that the hum that Ben and his secretary hear in the great northern is heard throughout the credits of the return, even after the music fades out. No idea what this means
Is this just the eternity loop that cooper has experienced for the last 25 years...the final scream just ends the loop...Laura whispers that the cycle never ends....not my idea....but one I can actually can buy
It's some kind of bird. Probably an eagle. It's on the actual house in real life. It's not uncommon to see little adornments like that above address numbers on houses.
Hey Pete Not sure if you missed it but if you listen carefully , the giants sound can be heard twice right before Cooper asks the question "what year is this" turn the volume up because it's very feint but you can definitely hear it
Maybe Laura is the dreamer. She screams at the end of the episode because she is waking up from her dream, back to a painful reality in which her dad molests her and her mom fails to notice or stop him. This interpretation borrows from Mulholland Drive, where the principal characters are projections of the protagonists sub-conscious mind, designed to help her cope with a painful reality (according to my preferred interpretation). In Mulholland Drive, the MC at Club Silencio directly tells us that everything is an illusion, and in Twin Peaks episode 17 Cooper's disembodied head directly tells us that "we live inside a dream." It seems to me that someone is dreaming, and Laura seems like a good candidate.
My theory is that the Dale/Richard is not the real Dale, it's a tulpa. Dale gave the One Armed Man his hair so he can make another copy of him. Real Dale is with Janey-E and Sonny-Jim and Dale who crosses dimension with Diane, who might be tulpa her self, is a copy. That's why Diane sees herself in front of a motel and that's why Cooper does not act the way he acted before, because he is a copy who is designed to be sacrificed when Laura destroys Judy in a pocket universe.
Pete, I have really enjoyed your videos and analysis. A quick question, I follow your logic regarding Episode 18 up to the point where you say the at the end Laura's scream might mean that Judy has been defeated/trapped/killed. Could you elaborate a bit more about this? Also how does Cooper's final question about what year is it work into your thoughts? Thanks
Electricity! Like Mike said before Coop left Jeffries to execute the plan. Lends weight to your thought that Judy was in fact defeated there at the end and that this was indeed all orchestrated by the Giant/Fireman, as suggested by the same Hydro pole outside "Carrie"'s being shown to Andy. Well done!
Imagine this, Cooper and Laura are Lodge entities that are also agents of the Lodge sent to contain wayward creatures such as Bob and Judy. Imagine that they go to other worlds of the multiverse as fragments of themselves tulpas with identities and histories of their own. The sex magic one could say is the "up and down intercoarse between two worlds." whenever Laura whispers to Coop she is conveying the next mission. in many ways they are bait and trap for Lodge entities
What do you make of the appearance of Cooper's pin? It appears in ep 17 only when Cooper is in the basement of the Great Northern. This changes up the timeline even more if it's intentional, which I can only assume it is. He has the pin in the White and Black Lodges, but not outside them, until the basement scene. What could this mean you think?
My thinking now is that Judy was furious that Cooper went back and saved Laura that she decided to go back and snatch Laura away from Cooper before he could do that. She sent Laura to the other dimension or reality, whatever it is, and Laura became Carrie Page although certain things like when Cooper (Richard) mentioned Sarah, she still had memories of sort of her past life. Richard takes Carrie home but her family wasn't there, Judy had tricked them, which Laura (Carrie) realised when she screamed and Cooper and Laura (Judy's two biggest adversaries) are now stuck in that 'dimension' and Judy is still a threat to the other world.
Adding a bit more. I think Judy took Laura from Cooper because she knew that 'Laura was the one' and that Coop would have to come looking for her and so Laura was the bait to catch Cooper. I think the 'two birds with one stone' are actually Cooper and Laura, not Richard and Linda, that was just a way of getting in to the other dimension, or whatever it is, and it was all a plan to trap them. Laura (Carrie) realises all this at the end.
You forgot to mention that the arm said " is it the story about the girl who lived down the lane" and it is the same thing Audrey said to Charlie the first time she appeared when he threatened her to end her story she replied the same as the arm said
I wish I had discovered your videos sooner... It would have made my experience of watching this season even more enjoyable. One question bugs me : what was that scene with the car and the screaming woman about ??? I always thought it hinted at some impending doom...
Alright has anyone else noticed how everytime Judy is mentioned or anything related to her is going on, there's the number "7" somewhere around? When Jeffries first arrives to the FBI headquarters, the floor where the elevator stops is #7. The room Diane and Coop go into is room #7. The number of Laura Palmer's house is 7-08. Is that somewhere around as a theory?
I don't know why but the old timey car that Cooper and Diane were in reminded me of episode 8 as well and made me suspicious of the time it was taking place. ("What year is this") And all of a sudden it's not in the next scene where they become Richard and Linda. I don't think it's anything important but as I watched it i was freaked out by the old car and knew something was up.
Bad Coops real name is Richard. Richard Horne was named after his father. Dale replaced Richard Sr.(Bad Coop) in the world that he comes from, our world. Dales new Dougie Tulpa replaced Dale in his world. Diane's doppelgänger never left our world. The Diane with white hair was a Tulpa not a doppelgänger. This is why we see a second Diane at the motel in our world. It's Diane's doppelgänger Linda.
the KEY is, In 1989 Laura and Agent Cooper saw each other in a dream, and the "Cooper" she and Cooper himself saw in the dream was Cooper 25 years older, Laura wrote the dream in the diary before her death, addressing Agent Cooper as "an older man" and there's one page missing from her diary. The younger Cooper addresses his dream with Diane in the recorder, so Diane was his diary. In 2017 season, Diane was hidden and replaced with a tulpa. 25 years later: Episode17: Older Cooper found teen Laura (with the help from Philip Jeffries and MIKE) in Twin Peaks to bring her home and she disappears screaming in thin air and then Cooper suddenly in the waiting room meeting older Laura. Episode18 (Final): Older Cooper found older Laura (Carrie Page) in Texas (with the help from the Fireman) to bring her home and she screams and then everything stops. Laura' s missing page should written : "2 :53 ...Time and time and time again" WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM -TWIN PEAKS THE RETURN. What Laura whispered to Cooper in 2017 season final was her MISSING PAGE, in where they would eventually meet each other outside the red room/waiting room, in some "alternate worlds". In disbelief Cooper then utters "WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM". So who is JUDY (the extreme negative force)? Laura IS Judy. LAURA IS THE ONE. This is why 2017 Bad Coop was after her, because BOB who is still with him wanted Laura's body & soul, according to Laura's secret diary. Whoever is after her will vanish. She uses nickname "Ms Judy" after Judy Garland for some reasons. The Fireman (electricity?) was protecting Judy. Did the Fireman turned Laura into Judy? The WHITE HORSE means someone you have in mind the most will become something in a different & more powerful form - "the Gumm (Judy Garland's old name/self) you liked is going to be back, in style." So halellujah come on get happy!
Dear Pete: I've been following your videos since The Return started, and it's still being a pleasure. I have one question alone: do you recommend me to buy TSH of Twin Peaks, or shall i wait till The Final Dossier? I mean is it a complex version or a sequel?
+Lucas Rodriguez The Final Dossier is a continuation. I would read the Secret History first while waiting for the October 31 release. There's a lot in the first book you wouldn't know just watching the show.
Hi Pete - thank you for making the videos. Have you come across a theory or reasoning as to why Diane sees himself before entering the motel? Its the one little detail that drives me nuts. Thanks and have a good one
This is crazy, I just watched episode 17 and 18 at the same time. Someone did a split screen of sorts. And if you can watch them both at the same time, it makes sense what is happening. Also, episode 17 is a few minutes longer than 18. I feel like I will ruin it if I go into more detail. Ill try to post the link to it, as it is not on you tube yet. My husband found it and sent it to me. I cant say enough about watching it this way. Everything makes sense. Laura and her reaction to the house, the long driving sequence. I am totally blown away now.
Pete, mate thanks for this series of vids. in a perfect world they would included on the season 3 blu ray as a guide. Being newlywed still setting up house, but I promise I will head over to your Patreon page and contribute. in the meantime thanks again and keep up the great work! Cheers from Down Under
Three thoughts: Perhaps The Fireman/Giant showed the image(s) of the #6 power pole to Andy so there would be a connection to the "real" world for those within the alternate world. A lifeline of sorts. Laura's horse shoe necklace is upside down! That is bad luck, not good luck. The sex scene made me think of a line The Man From Another Place/The Arm said during the meeting above the convenience store in Fire Walk With Me. "Intercourse between two worlds."
'There's actually several theories out there that make some sense... the writing (of said theories) wins you over and..' -It's not 'Lost. It's 'Twin Peaks'. The beauty of David Lynch and his work with Mark Frost on Twin Peaks is that EVERYBODY is right in their interpretation. I take it that you didn't experience Cherry Pie when the first season aired? You're not alone. *Face palm to all* If the revival wrecked your mind and made you 'killing for answers', maybe try watching a thing called 'Eraserhead'. -Actually on second thought, maybe just interpret an amazing expressionist and auteur for what he delivers and find your own appreciation for it. He really doesn't give two shits if any of us are 'right' or 'wrong' with our 'Lost-esque theories', on our blogs or UA-cam videos that nobody of importance will ever bother to glance at.
Hmmmmmm still so many questions! Am really loving this video though as it made me understand things a bit more. The dream theory really doesn't sit right with me, but then the super imposed Cooper on the Bob demise scene makes me second guess....I haven't rewatched yet but am looking forward to doing so!
You probably would not have to ask "what year is this?" if there were some cars out on the street, but there are none! I was also thinking that if it is a different year, then maybe that is why the RR to go is not on the building...they have not created the take out window yet.
You probably know this already Pete but there is another book out on 31st October called The Bookhouse boys journal. I assume it has Lynch/Frost's blessing. Still, odd to have the same release date as the Final dossier.
I already started going back to Season 1. Well, I lied. I watched Fire Walk With Me first, then season 1 and now i'm on season 2. Theres a lot of small things I picked up, that I may have not picked up as strongly before.
Dale could have asked what year it was, because when he left the lodge and "woke up" in the hospital he never asked how long he had been gone and it just dawned on him.
*_"playing both of these episodes together"_* 11:11 What episodes?? The original pilot and Part 18 of the Return? If so, from what point? From the scream? I don't understand.
What makes you think the Giant is good? Did we ever see a sign in his dwelling marked "White Lodge"? Or how do we know that Cooper is interpreting 430 correctly? He could have outsmarted himself. Come to think of it, it would make more sense if the Giant said "remember 420".
+Innocent Smith the Fireman seems to be in opposition to Judy. If you've followed my other videos I've said that we don't know if it is the white lodge or not.
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I want to take a minute to appreciate the performances of everyone involved in Twin Peaks The Return. If not for them The Return would not have been as good as it was. It was both an honour and a privilege to watch new and old actors work together to give us this masterpiece. Here's hoping to a Season 4 and more from the brilliant mind of David Lynch and Mark Frost :)
Seriously? Kyle Maclachlan was terrible as bad coop.
I agree. I absolutely looooved the mortician woman. She even got Albert do a double-take. A fantastic piece of acting.
I think Bad Coop is pretty quirky and interesting, as he pretty much has the stereotypical traits of the bad guy: cold, taciturn, remorseless; but he's also able to deal with people in a very practical, calm, almost humane manner. He didn't look like pure evil to me, but more like a lost soul. Plus, that tan, greasy hair; made him look like a mix between Bob and Renegade who did a redface, almost to make him look like the anti-Hawk, the opposite of the ultimate good guy, a forced caricature. These two actually have quite similar traits: calm and well-thought, taciturn, remarkable tracking abilities; native american traits, one natural, the other artificial/manufactured.
She was a medical examiner or coroner, not a "mortician woman."
Yes, thank you.
You keep making the Twin Peaks videos and I'll keep watching them
The great thing about the abstract, open-ended finale is that you can picture all of these different and unique scenarios. My own interpretation is that Cooper didn't really leave The Lodge until episode 18. There's an FBI pin on Cooper's lapel that only appears during certain scenes this season. It's there before he gets sucked into the electrical outlet, but then it disappears when he materializes in Las Vegas. The pin makes a reappearance after the scene in the Sheriff's station where everything becomes black.
My theory is that the Cooper with the pin is the real Cooper, and that the Cooper without the pin is a dream Cooper. Basically I think that there is a dream being projected into the mind of the real Cooper while he is in The Lodge, and the "Dougie" Cooper we see from episodes 3 to 17 is a projection that the real Cooper is controlling from within The Lodge. I think basically the whole season was a dream. But, I think that dreams that happen from within The Lodge actually happen in the real world, because The Lodge is such a mysterious place of power, and it's possible that dreams in The Lodge have a real effect on reality, or those dreams even create realities. That would certainly be an amazing power, and it would make sense why people like Windom Earle wanted to find The Lodge, so that they could use that power. By the way, I just say "The Lodge", because I believe the White and Black Lodges are two sides of the same coin, and that they basically occupy the same space (which is why there are both dark and light lines on the floor). The Giant even appears to Cooper in The Lodge at the end of season 2 and he says "One and the same".
Anyways, I think it's actually The Fireman who was projecting this dream into Cooper's mind, because there's a lot of stuff that goes on this season that I doubt would come from Cooper's subconscious - such as the origin story of Judy and Bob. I believe a lot of this season / dream was The Fireman informing Cooper of things he needed to know. But like I said, I think these Lodge dreams have a real effect on the world. After all, we clearly saw "real" results from the events taking place in the dream - such as the doppelganger ending up back in the lodge, and Diane being "awoken" (which is why she was waiting for him when he REALLY exited the lodge at the beginning of Episode 18). I mean, the arm did tell Cooper that he couldn't leave until his doppelganger returned, so of course Cooper never really left in Episode 3.
I also believe that beings that reside in the lodge basically live on forever, which is why Mike wanted to have Laura put on the ring, so that she would live on after Bob killed her (I believe Mike works for The Fireman, because he talks about seeing the face of God and being changed). Laura even appears to Dale this season and says "I am dead, and yet I live". I think her essence being a part of The Lodge is what made it possible for Cooper to travel back in time and alter her past. I also think that Cooper is actually a denizen of the White Lodge. I think the power to dream and alter reality would be reserved for the ascended beings that reside in the White Lodge. Also, the ending of FWWM with the Angel seems to indicate that Cooper had become an Agent of the White Lodge, and was helping Laura's essence ascend to the White Lodge. Laura is certainly a denizen of the White Lodge in this season, since she opens her face and you see a pure, white light. And another reason I think Dale is actually a denizen of the White Lodge is that Dale talks about Major Briggs (a denizen of the White Lodge) talking to him, and telling him things - like where to find the room key that would lead him to Phillip Jeffries (so Major Briggs could also be partly influencing this dream). We certainly see Cooper in the White Lodge talking to the Fireman (although he doesn't have his pin, but I believe that scene takes place right before the projection / dream version is transferred back to the real Cooper in the scene where he tells Diane to wait for him outside of the curtains). In that scene, the Fireman does say to Cooper "It is in OUR house now", meaning the Cooper is indeed a resident of the White Lodge. And I think The Fireman is talking about Judy now being a part of the White Lodge, which fits with a theory I have about a "Gray Lodge". I think any part of the White Lodge that Judy inhabits would become Gray, with the Mix of the Lodge's lightness and her darkness. I think Judy took a part of the White Lodge, and created the "Gray Lodge", which she trapped Laura in (snatching her away when Cooper was trying to lead her back home). When this happens, The Fireman tells Cooper to travel to the Gray Lodge with Diane, to become Richard and Linda, and kill two birds with one stone by sealing the portal with the act of making love (a ritual that is explained in Mark Frost's book), and to find Laura and try to destroy Judy with Laura. The Fireman did create Laura to destroy Judy, which is why I think Judy sent her son (Bob) to kill Laura, and Bob was also sent to possess Cooper, because Judy knew Cooper would be an Agent of the White Lodge / The Fireman. If you're wondering why Judy just can't kill Laura or Dale, like I said, I don't think she can truly kill anyone who has become a part of The Lodge. That's why there's a shot of Sarah (possessed by Judy) smashing Laura's picture, yet the picture never tears. She's of course mad in that scene, because she can sense the two biggest dangers to her existence (Dale and Laura) coming together.
Anyways, here are some reasons that I think that world in the last episodes is basically a "Gray Lodge". People in this reality seem to be an even mix of their dark and light sides. Cooper sees the Horse on Laura's mantle, and I believe that Horse represents a "middle ground". "The Horse is the white of the eyes, and the dark within." Cooper in this reality is cold towards Diane, and the first thing he says to her is "turn the light off". Also, I swear his eyes are dark again during the love making scene. When he wakes up, the motel has changed from a one level motel into a two level motel, so basically another layer was added (the darkness). In the restaurant, Cooper drinks the coffee, but isn't thrilled with it. He saves the waitress, but is very brutal about it. He then demands that she write down something for him, and he's holding a gun while doing that, but he never points it directly at her. Cooper also chooses to ignore the dead body in Laura's house. Laura herself, and all of the other people in this world seem to also be even mixes of evil and good. Laura did kill someone, after all, and you have people like the old couple at the restaurant acting nonchalant about the violence, and the woman at the Palmer house being really cold towards Cooper, while also being helpful. I basically think this world has been corrupted with Judy's wrath, because "Odessa" stands for "Wrathful", and Odessa is where Laura was placed. Odessa also comes from the word "Odyssey", and this is apparently Cooper's last obstacle to complete his mission. I also love the symbolism of them driving by the Double R Diner when it's closed down. This is a place that brought Cooper a lot of joy, and while that place still exists, there is now a darkness within it. I think that sums up the world they're in. The long, silent driving scenes are also something that became synonymous with Mr. C, and he doesn't even respond to Laura when she's talking to him.
The "two birds with one stone" saying may also refer to both episodes being released at once, and basically how they're both just non-linear parts of the same ending, like puzzle pieces that are need to be put in their proper place. "Is it future or is it past?". Some people even theorize that the true last scene of the series is in the Sheriff's office, and that the reunion between Diane and Cooper in that scene happened after the events of the "Richard and Linda" or "Gray Lodge" world, and that the ending is basically that timeline being reset, because Laura was saved and Judy was destroyed, so Cooper never ended up going to Twin Peaks, so all of the events of Seasons 1 and 2 and Fire Walk With Me never happened. Anyways, it's fun talking about different theories. I don't know which theory I like best, yet. Some are very depressing. Even the theory that Cooper succeeded is depressing in many ways, since it basically means that Seasons 1, 2 and FWWM didn't happen. I'm hoping that it is just the case and Cooper and Laura are trapped in this "Gray" world. I think "Richard" is the most fascinating incarnation of Cooper. It would be really interesting to see more of this Cooper, who is basically a vessel for both the good and evil Coopers. It could be that Judy knew the best way to neutralize the people who threaten her most, Laura and Cooper, was to trap them in a world where they would constantly be struggling between their light and dark selves. That's an exciting concept if you ask me, and something that would be worth exploring in a future season.
I don't buy this "Gray Lodge" theory, but everything else sounds pretty good.. I would add this: I think, that the disappearance of the Cooper from the Lodge is same as re-appearance in the woods, and "You are far away" maybe mean, that Cooper must be sent from "now" to the past to save Laura.. "It is in our house now" is maybe Mr. C in cage in White Lodge or something else, but it sounds like "now is the right time to execute our plan", which may be - going to past, save Laura.. What happend after crossing dimension "once we crosse, it could all be different", so it is.. sealing or whatever was the sex scene happened in different year, maybe 1949 ?! and after the night, the next morning was different time (and everything in matter of fact) again (probably 2014+, because of the real life owner of the house, RR dinner, etc..) "everything is different".. Linda (Diane) now maybe doesn't like Richard (Cooper), so she left with a goodbye note, the motel have a second floor now, the Cooper's car is modern one, Cooper is now Richard and Richard is not into coffee that much and he not even have white knight syndrom, Laura is now Carie, etc..
Currently re-watching the whole series. Instantly found it curious when cooper is throwing the rocks at bottles, that the line of Lauras Diary that is being referred is:"Nervous about meeting "J" tonight". The Dimension changes make so much sense when you see how dreamlike the city of twin peaks and its inhabitants are.
ohhhh J for Judy!! I've always wondered what it stood for!
There's a white horse (mechanical ride thingie) in front of Judy's too. Also the 6 power pole is from FWWM too, it's in the trailer park outside of Teresa Banks' trailer.
Pete you've really rounded into form here buddy. Your early Twin Peaks videos were effective summaries and whatnot, but in the last few episodes and especially in your treatment of this unprecedentedly difficult finale, you've been stellar. I've seen your skills as a thinker and voicer grow dramatically in these last three months or so, and I can't help but wonder if Twin Peaks hasn't done the same for all of us who have followed it closely and given ourselves over to it. I certainly feel my mind working in different ways, analyzing life from different perspectives than I did before the Return started airing. If that's true, then it's about the greatest confirmation of a work's value that any work is likely to get. That is, assuming I'm not the only one. And I don't think I am. As for more Twin Peaks videos, all I can do is give you my assurance: If you make them, I will watch them.
I'm glad you mentioned the model of car because none of the theories I've seen seem willing to grapple with the question of why Cooper and Diane's journey from Glastonbury Grove to the motel appears to take place in a timeline completely unrelated to anything else we've been exposed to.
It looks like Carrie Page/Laura Palmer's blinking in the final scene is very similar to Dougie Coop's. Might suggest that Laura Palmer has taken on the Carrie Page identity (and in the process has forgotten who she is) in a similar way to Cooper taking on Dougie's.
makes sense
the "missing page" from the Laura's Diary is the absent Laura living as Carrie Page.
The blinking is akin to Laura's blinking in the black lodge. I.e. they never left.
Stephen R Her blinking was strange I did notice that.
My theory: (1) The ONLY way to defeat Judy was through Laura. It was established in episode 8, and that's may me the reason for Laura's demise in the first run of the series; (2) When Cooper intervenes and stops Laura from meeting Leo and Jacques, Judy reacts by abducting Laura and hiding her in the other dimension; (3) Richard and Linda were a way for Cooper to enter the "final dimension" where Laura was. It was devised beforehand by Cooper and the Giant, as if they knew what Judy would do somehow; (4) Cooper entered a dimension and to get to the "final dimension" he has sex with Diane (this was somehow required, I still don't think of a reason why; (5) As soon as Cooper wakes up, he is now Richard, so deceiving Judy and entering this final dimension; and he is now in Texas; (6) He uses his intuition or instructions by the Giant to find Laura, but she was convinced that she is not Laura, and so not able to fulfill her destiny to destroy Judy; (7) "The horse is the white of the eye" is like a premonition of the woodsmen and is reflected in the horse in the mantel (it may mean that the girl that swallows the moth is Sarah Palmer; (8) Cooper takes Laura home, which is the same but slightly different; (9) Judy put the descendants of the old lady somehow in charge of the Palmer house, and Cooper gets confused, almost outsmarted by Judy; (10) At last, Laura remembers, screams, and in remembering fulfills her destiny and destroys Judy, which is represented by the electrical sounds and the darkness that follows, ending the final dimension. That's it, what do you think? =)
Bro, I created an account just to reply. Create fuckin theory. If you ever update it send it to me LOL
I like this :) but what about Sarah Palmer's voice at the end saying 'Lauura'?
Sounds good but why does it end with Coop and Laura still in the black lodge if they genuinely defeated Judy?
Stephen R I've read a theory that says they're in an infinite time loop, so this has happened before and will continue to happen forever. But idk...
Steven Spielberg I suppose it's Lynch's way of establishing that although Cooper saved Laura from Bob, the past is still somehow written. Remeber that he says that the past dictates the future. I guess Sarah calling for Laura is a way of telling us that the narrative wasn't "erased" despite the lime loop.
I'd love to see all the Roadhouse music put on CD and Vinyl called The Black Lodge's Greatest Hits
It's out there but it's called Twin Peaks (Music from the Limited Event Series)
I've got it. It's a twenty track album featuring all the roadhouse performances (including James's song), plus The Paris sisters, The Platters, Shawn Colvin, Booker. T. and the MG's, ZZ top and Otis Redding as well as the Twin peaks theme. It's a great listen.
Gary Cottier I listened to it driving around town recently. It’s lovely.
Missed thing number 11 might be that Laura didn't know what year it was either. That's how her reaction to his question appeared to me. Something about that realization brought back of flood of memories. I'm choosing to believe (at this point) that this was a victorious moment and Judy was extinguished when the electricity stopped.
Spahny1 The fact that neither were able to give a year gives credence to the theory that this universe was constructed solely for the purpose of trapping Judy (a bit like an elaborate film set) who could then be destroyed along with the pocket universe itself as seems to happen when the lights go out at the end
@ This was perfect ending to Twin Peaks, for many reasons. Lynch would rather give us something that lasts, that really make us think, feel and remember the story/art. This whole season has been antidote to modern TV and society that lacks imagination, patience, and really ability to think effectively.
As Einstein said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution."
just finished the simultaneous watch and, while i agree with you it doesn't really 'answer' any burning questions watching it this way, the majority of it syncs up incredibly well and i think as an audio and visual experience on its own it's actually quite poignant and moving and adds atmospheric depth to an already great pair of episodes. the audio sync especially is spot on. i mean i don't know if it's intentional sure... it would be extremely difficult to achieve... but damn it really feels special watching these two things overlap one another. please give it a chance everyone who is dubious !
"The Horse Is The White Of The Eyes And Dark Within" feels like it's connected to the entities in the Black Lodge e.g Laura and Leland in the last episode of Season 2. They have white eyes and have darkness within them.
the white in the eye balls and the dark you see in the iris.
the horse is the white of the eye on carrie page's mantle
it's on a blue plate against a white wall, like an eye.
James Murray That was the first thing I noticed during that scene.
I got all excited lol.
Everyone's eyes have "white of the eyes and dark within." The "dark within" the "white of the eyes" is the iris and pupil.
Pete, you're doing a great job. As a longtime TP fan, I'm still learning a lot from you. I'm going to support you on Patreon. Can't promise much for long, but you deserve it!
Only at the the very end of this last episode of season 3, no electrical audio noise is heard when the Lynch/Frost Productions logo is shown. It is heard on all of the other previous 17 episodes. Any possible meaning to this?
Bruce Brodsky because Judy was defeated.... No more electricity!
yes THERE IS AN EXPLANATION TO THIS. First it has the literal sense, the show is over. Second, electricity in twin peaks means "flows of ideas", and the literal sense of continuing the mistery and the story. It basically means twin peaks died
The fire has been put out.
It means the show is over.
I think Lynch wanted this, like his other works, like art yielding different interpretations. Three of my favorite are that Richard was the dreamer, he awoke preoccupied with finding Laura, found a coincidental doppelganger, and drove out to TP and got spooked by that universe reaching out. This kind of connects with the 2nd that Cooper's quest for Laura will be a never-ending loop with variations. Third is that Ep 18 is a sort of commentary on the preoccupation that viewers have with Laura and the series, virtually living in TP, and will keep the story alive in their hearts and minds (they are also the dreamers).
Lots of interpretations besides these.
What caught my attention when Coop and Diane were doing it was Diane was covering Coop's face with her hands
There have been some great moments of humor too. As always most of these have come from the mouth of Albert, but Lynch has given himself some of the best ones:
On seeing Hastings with his head removed he declares "He's dead!". LOL
And when Albert says to Gordon Cole: "I think you're getting soft in your old age" and Cole replies: "Not where it matters buddy!!".... just brilliant.
+Johnny Spacedust No doubt. I said long ago that losing regular Dale made way for all this Gordon and Albert which was fine by me.
My favourite Gordon line: "What the hell"!
Gary Cottier ....and as Bob is being destroyed by a guy with a green glove the Mitchum brother's aside: " one for the grand kids!" :)
One thing to contemplate is Coopers meeting with Laura Palmer in the waiting room. Cooper asks her if she's Laura Palmer and she does not immediately say yes but instead says she feels like she knows her. Why would she say that unless the incarnation we see in the waiting room is not Laura but in fact Carrie Page or some other yet unseen variant of Laura. If that's true it totally jumbles up the timeline a lot. And it brings doubt as to what reality or dimension is actually the real one, if there is even such a thing as a real one. It's also possible that what Cooper encounters in the waiting room is just the pure essence decoupled from whatever personality that was stamped on it. It Carrie Page and Laura but it's also not.
No... she says 30 secondes later that SHE IS Laura Palmer...
Yes because she is but she also isn't Laura Palmer.
Hopefully you will make more videos about Twin Peaks.. we love your reviews, recaps, theories and character profiles :)
+liquidrainbowchannel I will definitely maje more.
Yeeeaaaah : )
One thing you might have missed Pete. In many theories, like yours, people note that "Cooper wakes up in a different motel". Or "motel changes overnight". No. Cooper wakes up in a same room he had sex with Diane. But in the NEXT scene (when cooper exits some another hotel) the room is another one because door opens in different direction, window is on the different side of the door. (if you compare the room where Cooper WAKES UP to the room which Cooper EXITS). So the "leaving a motel scene" does not actually happen right after "waking up after Diane-sex-motel" scene in real timeline. Even though Lynch shows them one after another.
So "Cooper wakes up scene" is different day than the day which starts story of Cooper exiting some motel, roasts guns in Judy's and finds Carrie Page. These 2 motel scenes may be even 10 years apart and happen in totally different locations...or in totally different alternate realities.
Nothing magical happens to motel or car etc. It is just that scenes are not represented in chronological order. Like Lynch said.
it's just that he looks confused when he looks at the "new" motel, we spend some time there with coop looking at it. but there seems to be much more important mistery going on, so I guess this motel thing may not even be a thing after all, like you said
The feeling I had watching the finale was "this is what they had to do, and this is what happens when you change the past."
But not in a bad way - in a beautiful and melacholic way.
I think this has a lot to do with the fans nostalgia, as well.
Very much so. It's a kind of sad critique of nostalgia.
You can't go home again.
In rewatching the last episode when Laura is standing outside her old house and when she screams she has a necklace on. The necklace has a horseshoe on it which is interesting as it relates to the horse aka Judy.
I will watch any and every Twin Peaks video you post!
One thing I noticed was the sound that the giant in the first scene pointed out to Cooper, the "listen to the sounds" sound from the old record player. I think it's just a record grain scratching sound myself. When Cooper is leading Laura through the woods at the end of 17 and he says "We're going home" when the camera switches to just Coop and Laura disappears you hear that giant scratchy sound and then Laura disappears and we get the classic scream. You can hear the scratching sound dominantly hear because all the ambient sound is muted for that moment.
In 18 when Laura is literally being led "home" by Coop, right before he steps forward in the street and asks "What year is this?" the same scratchy sound is there for a moment. The background noice is not muted this time so it's a little harder to hear. I watch with headphones on and very loud so it stood out to me.
I've meant to go back and see if the parts 17 and 18 times between scratchy sound-Laura's scream sync up like other mirrored scenes in the show, but I haven't gotten to it yet.
I won't fake to have a clue of the meaning of this. I have a guess, but just thought it was worth note as I haven't seen this in any rway caps including yours. Maybe in crazy and hearing things, lol.
You could go back through the series again, and go through each show to discuss what it means now that we've seen the finale.
Yeah, was chatting with someone about that the other day. Will have a completely different perspective on a re-watch at this point.
Pete Peppers like... the whole show with what we know now. Season 1, 2, FWWM, too
Sweet! I hope you do it!
Joe V Exactly. I'm new to Twin Peaks because my brother got me I to it and I couldn't stop watching them. I just started season one and it's freaking amazing, Coop is such a goof and I love him! Lucy cracks me up every scene she's in so yeah, I didn't understand the Twin Peaks mania back then but I do now. There will be plenty of people going back and watching these for the first time right along with the original fans.
Hey Pete. Thanks so much for your videos. I'm not sure if anyone noticed this, but Laura appeared to be wearing a necklace that resembled the symbol on Major Garland's slip of paper that Bobby discovered.
It is a horse shoe on her necklace - I thought it looked a bit like the broken heart half that she and James had - the half circle. But, your interpretation is great - I need to see that map again!
Keep em coming Pete!
Always love your input. It help me grieve
Did u notice that Laura wears a necklacke with the same moon that in Hawk's map is related to Judy?
I think that the horse is a symbolic representation of the viewer. "The white of the eye and dark within" is a kind of painterly description of the appearance of the eye. In general, the presence of the viewer is a crucial component of understanding Twin Peaks. The show acknowledges the viewer. The super imposed image of Cooper seems to speak directly to the viewer. His statement "We live inside a dream" feels like it applies as much to this side of the screen as it does to that one, and I'm sure that's by design. The horse always appears at moments where "the veil" is thin, so to speak. The viewer is always nearby. Just behind the curtain.
I appreciate that you show us these details because it really does help tie up some loose ends. I just finished reading The Secret History and the clues I found were very helpful. I've settled on my personal interpretation and I'm wondering how much of it will be blown to pieces when The Final Dossier comes out.
the white horse represents death and the plate will be like something orchestrated and intentional to happen.
I've watched the 3rd season a long time ago,so theories I dont have right now.
But the clock represent that too ,orchestrated something ,timing and prepared.
Wow. Me recordó al reloj de "Stranger things" y el de"Dark".
R.I.P. Harry Dean Stanton. Loved your body of work.
Pete, it's a good stab at it. Can't say I buy in to all of it. Did make me notice for the first time that, as Cooper at the end seems to lose his way (even getting confused on what year it is), coincides with things appearing to dawn on Laura.
I'm not so sure that actually means something, though.
Another thing people might have missed, is Coop's FBI pin. He didn't have it on his jacket when he talked with the Fireman right at the start of the season. But then he had it in the Black Lodge and in the Mauve Zone. But then it disappeared when Coop emerged from the electric outlet. He was still missing it when he came to the sheriff's office, but then it was back on his jacket when they reappeared in the basement of the Great Northern after the blackout at the sheriff's office.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned on YT/Forums/Reddit is the bird on the from facia of the Palmer house is clearly displayed in the scene with BadCoop in the Cage before being transported to the TP Sheriff's Station.
I immediately jumped to "two birds one stone" which lends credence to theories of the house/Judy being destroyed by Carrie-Laura's screams.
Edit: this is also just came to me. Owls = birds, no? It wasn't touched on much this season but the Owls seemed to represent Bob/Evil in the OG run.
you do good work Pete. You make your videos about the :show"..not about you. Not trying to be a comedian or plaster your face all over the videos....I like your approach. I hate to see the season end...thanks for the videos!
We seem to have a confirmation that the other person in the house in Part 18 was Sarah Palmer, or at least something that used to be Sarah Palmer.
When the Palmer house was shown on the outside in Part 2, it preceded a scene that showed boozing Sarah Palmer watching television. The house in Part 2 and Part 18 was exactly the same house, not just on the outside but also in the inside as lamps and curtains and everything we saw in the house was positioned exactly in the same way. This was not recycled footage as the takes were not the same. The time of date differed and the lamps had been turned on differently but the exact likeness was underlined by using the same camera position and angle. The houses were deliberately the exact same house.
Then, when Hawk visited Sarah in Part 12 and they had a chat at the door, we are given a good long look at the house. We can immediately see that this was not the exact same house as in Part 2 and Part 18 as the plants in the front of the house were totally different.
Aki Kolehmainen yo
This is really interesting
Cooper: Do you believe in the soul?
Hawk: Several.
Cooper: More than one?
Hawk: Blackfoot legend. Waking souls that give life to the mind and the body. A dream soul that wanders.
Cooper: Dream souls... where do they wander?
Hawk: Faraway places. The land of the dead.
Cooper: Is that where Laura is?
Hawk: Laura's in the ground, Agent Cooper. That's the only thing I'm sure of.
Richard and Linda, my theory/interpretation is: (I typed this in the middle of your video, so sorry if i repeated something you already said)
They went back in time (saying the car's speed could be a nod to Back to the Future, for time-travelling). I think they went in the past exactly before it happened, to fix the past incident, which is why it was like a ritual or a duty. Where both people are ok with it, unlike the previous event, where it was forced. But in the morning, unexpectedly, the time changed from that era to present or alternate present and i dont know why their names changed, lets hope we find out somehow.
It could be possible that they passed through the portal to get in the body and mind of Mister C and Diane, maybe this is why they act different?
Maybe we could try to notice how people talk, to find out who they might or might not be. Like Richard not reacting to coffee, missing RR Diner and saying he is FBA, instead of "Federal Bureau of Investigation", pointing gun at even innocent people and putting guns in the oil.... I think those could be hints. I also thought that putting the Ring on Mister C may have brought his character into Cooper, but not sure if that happens in the lore.
Diane covers Richard's face to avoid the memory or possible event about Mister C smiling to her fear. Cooper's eyes stare dead into her and its pretty creepy, especially when the song stops and its just the unsettling drone, until the song starts again and she has her hands on his face. It feels safe to avoid the eyes.
And wow, good point at Doppelganger Diane. It could be her from that time, but, that Diane had white hair. But all Dianes have fake looking wings, in the Lodge's theme, except, this one only has black and white nail polish.
I think Diane, during the intercourse, felt Cooper not being him, as he stared blank into her and that is why she left. The next morning the time probably changes back to where it should have, as planned, since their sex was done. But the only problem now, their names are as new and they might have gone to the wrong time. I wouldn't say Richard and Linda are the real people and the rest was all a dream, but rather, this is some other reality, mixed with the real world. This might even me the courtyard above the convenience store, the hotel looks similar, but i could be wrong
One thing I've been thinking about is that Coop never have the American flag pin, while every other FBI agent has one along with the FBI pin. Whatever that might mean.
BECAUSE HE IS FROM 1991 BEFORE 9/11 2001 & all That BEcoming an FBI/ AMERICAN NORM...
Btw, another thing beside horseshoe necklace that you haven't mentioned here is that this final episode is in the memory of Jack Nance aka Pete Martell & Eraserhead.
On Parsons: Notice it's also a red haired woman, Scarlett woman....which was big with Jack Whiteside Parsons and Majorie Cameron in the Babylon Working.
The hands of the dead guy in Carrie's house are hovering dead still above his lap. Almost as if he's frozen in time.
Jason Tibbetts rigormortis
Patrick Coulombe. Maybe if they were positioned that way after he died, but I'm sure they would've dropped into his lap or chair.
Also, his left ring finger is pointing downward, as if someone tampered with it after he died. (Perhaps removed an owl ring?)
Anyone else find the tree in carries back yard a bit disturbing? Like it's got two arms...bending back? Or is it just me?
Does the stuff on the front of his shirt look liked creamed corn to anyone else? (slightly puked up and been there for a while on a dead guy creamed corn, obviously).
I wonder if Judy was in the house. All it took was for Carrie Laura to remember. The power going out is very significant. I'm baffled I didn't put that together.
I also recall the firemen looking at the Palmer house before he deposited Evil Coop at the sheriffs station.
It would appear that Andy's vision is a key piece as well.
After the house was sold Sara Palmer took to living in the attic and below the floor boards surviving only on mens jugulars and vodka.
Twin Peaks is starting to break mY brain. All the different theories. MY brain hurts!
I am not your foot.
Makes sense that the giant may of constructed it to protect Laura, maybe that's where the gold orb with Laura in it was sent. So when Laura was plucked away near Rabbits Palace it was actually the giant taking her and sending her to this constructed reality. So then why was it shown to Andy? Maybe he has a role in making sure they make it back to their own reality. PLUS the Giant can clearly control people when they enter specific locations and do what he wants with them.
thanks!
I agree. Lynch purposely leaves room for interpretation. That's what art is
Pete, if this turns out to be the last video that you do on Twin Peaks then thanks for doing them as it added to the experience. Some things that you missed. Also on the mantle piece was a green ball (symbolising Bob) and an overturned thimble (symbolising teapot(?) Jeffries). Laura as Carrie was also wearing an upside down horse shoe round her neck symbolising bad luck, and if linked to the white horse symbolises a nightmare rather than a good ending (sorry). I still think both Coop and Laura couldn't leave the lodge. That Laura's whispered words were "we live inside a dream". That Coop would relive this story until he realised he was in a continuous loop (hence the infinity symbol) and that viewers who rewatch the series are also in the same loop and sharing Coop's experience. That the arm was mocking Coop when he stated "is this the story of the girl who lived down the lane?" i.e. it is a story that the arm is familiar with given Coop will relive it. I agree that episode 17 & 18 needed to be watched together to get the ending. Just one perspective though.
Taken from The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad translated by
by Swami Krishnananda. This is where Lynch has taken "We are like the spider. We weave our life and then move along in it. We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream" from. He has also used this quote to describe Inland Empire.
"Dreams are occasioned by many causes, by various types of impulses, which are the motive powers behind dream experience. It is not possible to trace back all dreams to a single type of cause. Though it is generally said that a memory of waking life is the cause for the experience in dream, it is only a general statement. It does not mean every kind of dream is caused by memories. Dreams are also caused by other reasons, other factors than what can be merely comprehended by the term 'previous experience'. Someone may be thinking of you very strongly in some distant place. You can have a vision of that person in dream. This is something very strange. If I very strongly think of you, for some reason or the other, you may experience it in your dream, and if the thoughts are intense enough, you may have the same thoughts that I have in my mind at that time. This is because of the intensity of the thought concerned. If the thought of the other person is extremely intense, you may feel that thought even in the waking state, not merely in dream. If the thoughts are powerful enough, even in your waking life you can feel the thoughts of somebody else. These thoughts are communicated to you because of the strength of the thoughts. Generally, such influences are felt more in dream than in waking, because in waking life we have an egoism which is active and which prevents the entry of other thoughts. Your personality is so strong in the waking state, your consciousness of your own self is so intense and your own thoughts influence you to such an extent, that others' thoughts cannot noticeably enter your mind in the waking life, usually. But their entry is easier in dream when the ego is not so active, and their effect is much more in sleep because of the complete withdrawal of the ego in the sleeping condition. Sometimes, other invisible forces may work in your dream if your thoughts during waking in relation to these forces were intense enough."
What does any of this mean in relation to Lynch's universe? Well I think plenty. The way key characters in Peaks have entered each others dreams whether it be Coop with Laura etcetera. The way Cooper cries Gordon's name in both with the FWWM scene with Jeffries and in episode 17 beforehand making sure Gordon knows the exact time. Also in both scenes they become mixed with translucent imagery of either jumping man in Jeffries case or Cooper face in episode 17. To think that others can enter your dream state without you relying on memories in the conscious waking state of them before the dream to allow them access into your dreams is quite frightening, but helps understanding all that we have seen in Peaks, whether we are on board with these old esoteric theories about dream and ego states, and how Lynch maybe using them or not.
I noticed that the hum that Ben and his secretary hear in the great northern is heard throughout the credits of the return, even after the music fades out. No idea what this means
Check the lyrics to the Talking Heads song "Found a Job".
It's a coincidence, but a fun one.
Is this just the eternity loop that cooper has experienced for the last 25 years...the final scream just ends the loop...Laura whispers that the cycle never ends....not my idea....but one I can actually can buy
Love you man!!
What is the black symbol above the 708 on the front of the Palmer house?
It's some kind of bird. Probably an eagle. It's on the actual house in real life. It's not uncommon to see little adornments like that above address numbers on houses.
if you squint it kinda looks like the Judy symbol
Hey Pete
Not sure if you missed it but if you listen carefully , the giants sound can be heard twice right before Cooper asks the question "what year is this" turn the volume up because it's very feint but you can definitely hear it
Steve Gee is that not his feet shuffling on the road?
Richard E Stuart I thought that to so I listened to it over about 5 times and you can hear the sound twice , turn volume right up
Marjorie Cameron was both a redhead and a heavy smoker. She's the woman who performed the Babylon Workings with Parsons.
Maybe Laura is the dreamer. She screams at the end of the episode because she is waking up from her dream, back to a painful reality in which her dad molests her and her mom fails to notice or stop him. This interpretation borrows from Mulholland Drive, where the principal characters are projections of the protagonists sub-conscious mind, designed to help her cope with a painful reality (according to my preferred interpretation). In Mulholland Drive, the MC at Club Silencio directly tells us that everything is an illusion, and in Twin Peaks episode 17 Cooper's disembodied head directly tells us that "we live inside a dream." It seems to me that someone is dreaming, and Laura seems like a good candidate.
My theory is that the Dale/Richard is not the real Dale, it's a tulpa. Dale gave the One Armed Man his hair so he can make another copy of him. Real Dale is with Janey-E and Sonny-Jim and Dale who crosses dimension with Diane, who might be tulpa her self, is a copy. That's why Diane sees herself in front of a motel and that's why Cooper does not act the way he acted before, because he is a copy who is designed to be sacrificed when Laura destroys Judy in a pocket universe.
Damn that front tire on that car is bald as hell.
Why was the first car so old? Was it meant to establish a reason for Coopers What year is it?
Pete, I have really enjoyed your videos and analysis. A quick question, I follow your logic regarding Episode 18 up to the point where you say the at the end Laura's scream might mean that Judy has been defeated/trapped/killed. Could you elaborate a bit more about this? Also how does Cooper's final question about what year is it work into your thoughts? Thanks
Michael Yeaman is a great day to su
Look at her face as she screams at the end .... is it not an expression of fear but one of rage?
Electricity! Like Mike said before Coop left Jeffries to execute the plan. Lends weight to your thought that Judy was in fact defeated there at the end and that this was indeed all orchestrated by the Giant/Fireman, as suggested by the same Hydro pole outside "Carrie"'s being shown to Andy. Well done!
Imagine this, Cooper and Laura are Lodge entities that are also agents of the Lodge sent to contain wayward creatures such as Bob and Judy. Imagine that they go to other worlds of the multiverse as fragments of themselves tulpas with identities and histories of their own. The sex magic one could say is the "up and down intercoarse between two worlds." whenever Laura whispers to Coop she is conveying the next mission. in many ways they are bait and trap for Lodge entities
What do you make of the appearance of Cooper's pin? It appears in ep 17 only when Cooper is in the basement of the Great Northern. This changes up the timeline even more if it's intentional, which I can only assume it is. He has the pin in the White and Black Lodges, but not outside them, until the basement scene. What could this mean you think?
djpharmboy additionally, has it ever been confirmed that doppelcoop wore the pin on his hair tie?
I've got an exam next week and I'm sorely tempted to put for each answer 'I feel like I know it, but sometimes my arms bend back'. 😂
My thinking now is that Judy was furious that Cooper went back and saved Laura that she decided to go back and snatch Laura away from Cooper before he could do that. She sent Laura to the other dimension or reality, whatever it is, and Laura became Carrie Page although certain things like when Cooper (Richard) mentioned Sarah, she still had memories of sort of her past life. Richard takes Carrie home but her family wasn't there, Judy had tricked them, which Laura (Carrie) realised when she screamed and Cooper and Laura (Judy's two biggest adversaries) are now stuck in that 'dimension' and Judy is still a threat to the other world.
Adding a bit more. I think Judy took Laura from Cooper because she knew that 'Laura was the one' and that Coop would have to come looking for her and so Laura was the bait to catch Cooper. I think the 'two birds with one stone' are actually Cooper and Laura, not Richard and Linda, that was just a way of getting in to the other dimension, or whatever it is, and it was all a plan to trap them. Laura (Carrie) realises all this at the end.
Lo mismo creo
RIP Harry Dean Stanton. You held out for the finale.
You forgot to mention that the arm said " is it the story about the girl who lived down the lane" and it is the same thing Audrey said to Charlie the first time she appeared when he threatened her to end her story she replied the same as the arm said
I wish I had discovered your videos sooner... It would have made my experience of watching this season even more enjoyable. One question bugs me : what was that scene with the car and the screaming woman about ??? I always thought it hinted at some impending doom...
Alright has anyone else noticed how everytime Judy is mentioned or anything related to her is going on, there's the number "7" somewhere around?
When Jeffries first arrives to the FBI headquarters, the floor where the elevator stops is #7. The room Diane and Coop go into is room #7. The number of Laura Palmer's house is 7-08. Is that somewhere around as a theory?
5:44 I wonder what those slash marks on the Lincoln's tire (which seems to be intentionally facing the camera) mean?
Pete, are you going to do an over all reveiw of season three?
+Gary Cottier I believe so
Episode 8 set such a high bar I feel like they really should have saved that until the end.
I don't know why but the old timey car that Cooper and Diane were in reminded me of episode 8 as well and made me suspicious of the time it was taking place. ("What year is this")
And all of a sudden it's not in the next scene where they become Richard and Linda. I don't think it's anything important but as I watched it i was freaked out by the old car and knew something was up.
Bad Coops real name is Richard. Richard Horne was named after his father.
Dale replaced Richard Sr.(Bad Coop) in the world that he comes from, our world.
Dales new Dougie Tulpa replaced Dale in his world.
Diane's doppelgänger never left our world.
The Diane with white hair was a Tulpa not a doppelgänger. This is why we see a second Diane at the motel in our world.
It's Diane's doppelgänger Linda.
the KEY is, In 1989 Laura and Agent Cooper saw each other in a dream, and the "Cooper" she and Cooper himself saw in the dream was Cooper 25 years older, Laura wrote the dream in the diary before her death, addressing Agent Cooper as "an older man" and there's one page missing from her diary. The younger Cooper addresses his dream with Diane in the recorder, so Diane was his diary. In 2017 season, Diane was hidden and replaced with a tulpa.
25 years later:
Episode17: Older Cooper found teen Laura (with the help from Philip Jeffries and MIKE) in Twin Peaks to bring her home and she disappears screaming in thin air and then Cooper suddenly in the waiting room meeting older Laura.
Episode18 (Final): Older Cooper found older Laura (Carrie Page) in Texas (with the help from the Fireman) to bring her home and she screams and then everything stops.
Laura' s missing page should written : "2 :53 ...Time and time and time again" WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM -TWIN PEAKS THE RETURN.
What Laura whispered to Cooper in 2017 season final was her MISSING PAGE, in where they would eventually meet each other outside the red room/waiting room, in some "alternate worlds". In disbelief Cooper then utters "WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM".
So who is JUDY (the extreme negative force)? Laura IS Judy. LAURA IS THE ONE. This is why 2017 Bad Coop was after her, because BOB who is still with him wanted Laura's body & soul, according to Laura's secret diary. Whoever is after her will vanish. She uses nickname "Ms Judy" after Judy Garland for some reasons. The Fireman (electricity?) was protecting Judy. Did the Fireman turned Laura into Judy?
The WHITE HORSE means someone you have in mind the most will become something in a different & more powerful form - "the Gumm (Judy Garland's old name/self) you liked is going to be back, in style."
So halellujah come on get happy!
Dear Pete: I've been following your videos since The Return started, and it's still being a pleasure. I have one question alone: do you recommend me to buy TSH of Twin Peaks, or shall i wait till The Final Dossier? I mean is it a complex version or a sequel?
+Lucas Rodriguez The Final Dossier is a continuation. I would read the Secret History first while waiting for the October 31 release. There's a lot in the first book you wouldn't know just watching the show.
Hi Pete - thank you for making the videos. Have you come across a theory or reasoning as to why Diane sees himself before entering the motel? Its the one little detail that drives me nuts. Thanks and have a good one
This is crazy, I just watched episode 17 and 18 at the same time. Someone did a split screen of sorts. And if you can watch them both at the same time, it makes sense what is happening. Also, episode 17 is a few minutes longer than 18. I feel like I will ruin it if I go into more detail. Ill try to post the link to it, as it is not on you tube yet. My husband found it and sent it to me. I cant say enough about watching it this way. Everything makes sense. Laura and her reaction to the house, the long driving sequence. I am totally blown away now.
R.I.P. Harry Dean Stanton. That scene where Carl and Mickey were talking in the van will take on more poignancy now.
Pete, mate thanks for this series of vids. in a perfect world they would included on the season 3 blu ray as a guide.
Being newlywed still setting up house, but I promise I will head over to your Patreon page and contribute. in the meantime thanks again and keep up the great work! Cheers from Down Under
Three thoughts:
Perhaps The Fireman/Giant showed the image(s) of the #6 power pole to Andy so there would be a connection to the "real" world for those within the alternate world. A lifeline of sorts.
Laura's horse shoe necklace is upside down! That is bad luck, not good luck.
The sex scene made me think of a line The Man From Another Place/The Arm said during the meeting above the convenience store in Fire Walk With Me. "Intercourse between two worlds."
Diane in the last 2 episodes looks like "Scarlet Woman." Which is then also connected to the "experiment."
'There's actually several theories out there that make some sense... the writing (of said theories) wins you over and..'
-It's not 'Lost. It's 'Twin Peaks'.
The beauty of David Lynch and his work with Mark Frost on Twin Peaks is that EVERYBODY is right in their interpretation.
I take it that you didn't experience Cherry Pie when the first season aired? You're not alone.
*Face palm to all*
If the revival wrecked your mind and made you 'killing for answers', maybe try watching a thing called 'Eraserhead'.
-Actually on second thought, maybe just interpret an amazing expressionist and auteur for what he delivers and find your own appreciation for it. He really doesn't give two shits if any of us are 'right' or 'wrong' with our 'Lost-esque theories', on our blogs or UA-cam videos that nobody of importance will ever bother to glance at.
Pete what about Linda when she was mentioned at the Fat Trout?? How do you think that is related to Diane?
+ToreyTalks seems like a red herring, but there could be more to it
Hmmmmmm still so many questions! Am really loving this video though as it made me understand things a bit more. The dream theory really doesn't sit right with me, but then the super imposed Cooper on the Bob demise scene makes me second guess....I haven't rewatched yet but am looking forward to doing so!
I think it was the throw us of the scent, just like Richard Horne was too.
You probably would not have to ask "what year is this?" if there were some cars out on the street, but there are none! I was also thinking that if it is a different year, then maybe that is why the RR to go is not on the building...they have not created the take out window yet.
Platters are a circle. This world is a circle. Just my thought on the song choice.
Es un círculo plano.
Para mí refuerza la teoría de que esa dimensión está manejada por Judy.
You probably know this already Pete but there is another book out on 31st October called The Bookhouse boys journal. I assume it has Lynch/Frost's blessing. Still, odd to have the same release date as the Final dossier.
I did see something about it, but haven't investigated further yet.
03:34 the woodsman got a light
I think I’ve finally worked out what the sex in part 18 was all about, working on this in my mind presently, it was the birth of Bob.
Definitely do videos and theories about the Movie and earlier series. If you rewatch them, things make more sense now that season 3 is over.
+Karah Kay It will be interesting to re-watch with new eyes.
I already started going back to Season 1. Well, I lied. I watched Fire Walk With Me first, then season 1 and now i'm on season 2. Theres a lot of small things I picked up, that I may have not picked up as strongly before.
I noticed one other thing in front of Judy’s restaurant there is a white horse.
You should do one about the jumping man possessing Sarah Palmer
Dale could have asked what year it was, because when he left the lodge and "woke up" in the hospital he never asked how long he had been gone and it just dawned on him.
*_"playing both of these episodes together"_* 11:11
What episodes?? The original pilot and Part 18 of the Return? If so, from what point? From the scream? I don't understand.
What makes you think the Giant is good? Did we ever see a sign in his dwelling marked "White Lodge"?
Or how do we know that Cooper is interpreting 430 correctly? He could have outsmarted himself.
Come to think of it, it would make more sense if the Giant said "remember 420".
+Innocent Smith the Fireman seems to be in opposition to Judy. If you've followed my other videos I've said that we don't know if it is the white lodge or not.
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