Why Fleetway Amy is the Best Amy

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  • Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
  • Have you ever seen art of Amy Rose with an oversized white t-shirt, a plaid skirt, a crossbow and spiked-up spines?
    That is 'Fleetway Amy'. I'm sure we all know who Amy Rose is but did you know that the British Sonic the Comic (published by Fleetway) significantly changed Amy's character, abilities and look? I'd argue that Fleetway's interpretation of Amy is, in my opinion, better than her game counterpart.
    In this video I want to take a look at the history of Amy Rose in the Fleetway comics, briefly exploring some of her more famous storylines, all the while explaining the many different style and personality changes Amy went through over the course of the comic.
    The art in the thumbnail is from Lixes. Please check out their Twitter (@LixesPrototype) to see more Fleetway Sonic renders and to commission your own! Thanks again Lixes.
    / lixesprototype
    By the way 'Peter Android'? I reckon he's the Mobian counterpart to Peter Andre.
    "Why Fleetway Amy is the Best "
    Chapters :-
    00:00 Introduction
    01:25 The Early Years
    08:25 Leader of the Freedom Fighters
    09:53 Amy & Tekno Era
    13:36 Ring of Eternity Arc
    16:52 Later Years & Sonic Adventure
    Music used in this video :-
    - "Green Grove Zone Act 1" from Sonic 3D (Mega Drive version)
    - "Green Grove Zone Act 2" from Sonic 3D (Mega Drive version)
    - "Diamond Dust Zone Act 1" from Sonic 3D (Mega Drive version)
    - "Green Grove Zone Act 1" from Sonic 3D (Saturn version)
    - "Panic Puppet Zone Act 1" from Sonic 3D (Mega Drive version)
    - "Green Grove Zone Act 2" from Sonic 3D (Saturn version)
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    Find me on Twitter: / thejohnnyvector
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  • @JohnnyVector
    @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +216

    Correction - The piko piko hammer first appeared in Sonic the Fighters!
    And at 7:46 - Just confirming that is issue 78, not issue 58. Slips of the tongue.

    • @cosmowonder4033
      @cosmowonder4033 2 роки тому +4

      That’s ok, also at 5:37 the actual first time she used the “Pico Pico Hammer” was in “Sonic The Fighters”, based on the Japanese toy of the same name.

    • @marsdenit2845
      @marsdenit2845 2 роки тому +2

      FleetwaY Amy is the way due to a supervisor considering the game portrayal of Amy as offensive to women. I agree. Fleetway made Amy likeable. I know Sonic Boom exists, but this is 1990s comics

    • @marsdenit2845
      @marsdenit2845 2 роки тому

      Amy did not necessarily need to be a Mary Sue. But she doesn't need to be a dumb girl that screams for Sonic every 5 seconds. Its not funny. Its just an insult

    • @cosmowonder4033
      @cosmowonder4033 2 роки тому +2

      @@marsdenit2845 True, I prefer modern Amy tho

    • @andreimillares7843
      @andreimillares7843 2 роки тому +1

      Johnny Lightfoot: "Hey, who are you calling 'LAME'?!?

  • @TheLonelyGoomba
    @TheLonelyGoomba 2 роки тому +450

    17:15 Amy's shirt probably says "Weird Science".

    • @BradleyJ
      @BradleyJ 2 роки тому +27

      I reviewed the film, it definitely looks like the logo from the film

    • @alienkatdaddycgs5904
      @alienkatdaddycgs5904 2 роки тому +9

      It's probably based on the comic

    • @awesomejacketdude
      @awesomejacketdude 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I was thinking that too.

    • @torchdreemurr4082
      @torchdreemurr4082 2 роки тому +14

      FROM MY HEART AND FROM MY HANDS

    • @limespots
      @limespots 2 роки тому +9

      @@torchdreemurr4082 WHY DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MY INTENTIONS

  • @SebTheShinpuru
    @SebTheShinpuru 2 роки тому +599

    dude i love fleetway's interesting approaches to sonic characters

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +67

      Awesome. They had a fascinating take on most characters.

    • @vegetafan9922
      @vegetafan9922 2 роки тому +29

      Fleetway Charmy is what Modern Charmy ended up being. Then again both companies coming to the conclusion of a 7 year old who is a Bumblebee's personality being annoying and hyper is probably just a coincidence.

    • @SebTheShinpuru
      @SebTheShinpuru 2 роки тому +12

      @@vegetafan9922 fleetway charmy is superior imo he's way more annoying

    • @TomWHuxley
      @TomWHuxley 2 роки тому +10

      @@SebTheShinpuru and other characters are aware of it 👀

    • @austinroundsgallery83
      @austinroundsgallery83 2 роки тому +17

      I wish Fleetway continued, because I'm interested to see what their takes on later Sonic characters like Shadow, Rouge, Blaze, Big, Cream, and Silver would've been like.

  • @TMSonicFan47
    @TMSonicFan47 2 роки тому +640

    After watching this, I gotta say, I definitely would have preferred this version of Amy, personality-wise. But... I disagree about the cross-bow. I still think the hammer is the better weapon for her.
    To me, Amy’s always been more of a versatile wild card; someone who can be a powerhouse, leader, and supporting character, rather than just being one of the three. Her hammer is a perfect reflection of that since she not only uses it for combat, but she also uses it for mobility with her acrobatic moves, and it’s also hints at her background in the mystical arts since she can create tornadoes with a single swing of it. Basically, I like to think of the Piko Piko Hammer as Amy’s version of Thor’s Mjolnir.

    • @TomWHuxley
      @TomWHuxley 2 роки тому +33

      The crossbow is much more practical (and believable). Reflecting this characterisation

    • @tahutoa
      @tahutoa 2 роки тому

      @@TomWHuxley the crossbow is not practical. Do you have any idea how hard it is to cock those things

    • @camero144
      @camero144 2 роки тому +15

      Interesting it would have been funny seeing Amy being a mix of Nick Fury and Hawkeye

    • @ZeroMasterey
      @ZeroMasterey 2 роки тому +26

      @@secoTheSonicFan Classic Amy was the first to have the Piko Piko Hammer (Sonic The Fighters 1996)

    • @zephon6745
      @zephon6745 Рік тому +11

      Fleetway's Amy is the first Amy to use a weapon in any universe

  • @RadicalMcCannic
    @RadicalMcCannic 2 роки тому +212

    In one issue she makes a remark about being named 'Aim-y' so maybe that's why they made her a marksman/gave her the crossbow! Always liked fleetway amy though, her obsession with sonic developing into her making fun of him and standing equal to the point Sonic doesn't always know if she's being serious about her obsession with him was a great piece of character development.

  • @keldeostudies149
    @keldeostudies149 2 роки тому +91

    Amy being a leader is probably what lead to idw interpretation of amy where she was a leader for a short while

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +18

      Oooh, did that happen fairly recently? I'm not caught up on the IDW comics; I'd love to read more.

    • @keldeostudies149
      @keldeostudies149 2 роки тому +4

      @@JohnnyVector the comics are a joy to read full of little references and big surprises

    • @psbpaladin
      @psbpaladin 2 роки тому +15

      @@JohnnyVector They're very good indeed. I like the way the write Amy too. She and Sonic have an actual friendship rather than a one sided crush.

  • @uhyeah
    @uhyeah 2 роки тому +443

    Always thought Fleetway Amy was her best design. Great video!

    • @peterpumkineater69346
      @peterpumkineater69346 2 роки тому +8

      Brown Amy is funny. Aren't you that guy who does those FNAF videos and Mendo Endo?

    • @TGW765
      @TGW765 2 роки тому +2

      1 reply?

    • @KSKY2012
      @KSKY2012 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, me too! I've always loved the outfits she wore in the comics!

    • @ChaoDee
      @ChaoDee Рік тому

      Amogus

    • @suckerhat
      @suckerhat Рік тому

      Uhyeah
      What are you doing here?
      Aren't you a fnaf channel

  • @rodrigomarcondes5857
    @rodrigomarcondes5857 2 роки тому +174

    even though i wasn't familiar with fleetway's sonic growing up, i really like their take on Amy. I think Fleetway's take on the character does not go completely unnoticed by Sega and IDW seeing how she's the leader of the resistance against Robotnik now, and they did tone down her crush on Sonic just a tiny bit so she's not as annoying as she used to be

    • @mechajay3358
      @mechajay3358 2 роки тому +15

      Yeah, it's pretty clear IDW took some inspiration from the Fleetway version of her

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 Рік тому +6

      This is the Amy Rose we need and want, not the one where Amy Rose chases down Sonic furiously with her stupid hammer just because he only sees her as a friend! If it were the other way around, there would be a lot more outrage like “Sonic should remember not only Amy’s dates, but also his “respect women” juice before he rapes them”.

    • @antrox2346
      @antrox2346 Рік тому +2

      Now they Made her so dull.

  • @HiperPivociarz
    @HiperPivociarz Рік тому +34

    I'm sorry, but nothing will beat the PikoPiko hammer. I love the idea of Amy, this pink cutesy girl character logging around a giant hammer with the strength of Thor.

  • @hattoripool1533
    @hattoripool1533 2 роки тому +65

    I wonder how Sonic fans would react if we got a Sonic game set in the Fleetway continuity

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +34

      I think most would think it was quite bizarre. I'd love to control crossbow-wielding Amy though.

    • @timetochronicle
      @timetochronicle Рік тому +9

      Theres so much that could be done in the Fleetway continuity. So much!
      1. Imagine a fantasy RPG where Tails has to deal with the goblins in the Naneless Zone
      2. Archery with Amy, switching between crossbow and longbow
      3. Ironman style levels with Shortfuse, with armour that can improved or customized by Tekno depending on need
      4. Amy & Tekno adventuring shenanigans in time and space
      5. Plunder seeking to undo his curse
      6. And of course - a spin on Sonic where the goal is NOT to over-rely on crazy Super Sonic, or you get the "bad" ending
      And thats not even counting unique enemies like Zachary, Brutus and the Drakon Empire.
      I'd love to play a game based on the Fleeteay continuity, and I hope it can be a reality

  • @ChaddyFantome
    @ChaddyFantome 2 роки тому +120

    I don't hate Fleetway Amy by any stretch but I don't really jive with this idea she is some massively better interpretation than the Amy we got in the games. She just comes off as a very different character altogether.

  • @CutBackDropTurn
    @CutBackDropTurn 2 роки тому +151

    This was incredibly interesting! I’m not a huge fan of Sonic the Comic, but your videos always make it sound so fascinating.
    Though Amy first got her Piko Piko Hammer in Sonic the Fighters, not Sonic Adventure.
    Amy is one of my favorite characters in the Sonic series, so I’m really glad you made such an interesting video!

  • @Andrew_TS
    @Andrew_TS 2 роки тому +94

    Sounds fun. The games make her come off as the dorky younger girl mooning over the cool older kid.
    This Amy may be as cool as Sonic but doesn't obsess over him other than messing with him. Like he's a crush she got over.

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +14

      Yeah, that's a great way of summing it up.

    • @draw2death421
      @draw2death421 Рік тому +3

      Yea tho tbf Sonic does not like Amy. Sonic has made it pretty clear that he is not interested and why whould he be? Amy is an abusive stalker!

    • @mirkohoble
      @mirkohoble Рік тому +2

      And gets an awesome gf in the end

    • @teamdarkfan317
      @teamdarkfan317 Рік тому +1

      @@draw2death421 no she’s not. While she is definitely obsessed with sonic she is not an abusive stalker and only Is portrayed that way in spin offs (excluding heroes) in sonic adventure she finds him ACCIDENTALLY and in sa2 she finds him to free him from prison. Also I may add that while she is obsessed with sonic it Is not by far her whole personality. She is bubbly (I think that’s the word) can see the good in others, is kind, extremely keen to help, is adventure loving and is willing to step in to danger ,even if she’s scared, in order to help somone in need. It’s really a shame that people hate game Amy especially but like fleetway Amy despite the fact they seem to share similar traits but dialled up or down slightly.

  • @Fatih_M177
    @Fatih_M177 2 роки тому +187

    Man the fleetway comics really are amazing
    They made Amy a badass way before sonic adventure did (i mean she was still girly but also a badass)

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +32

      At first I didn't like Amy in Sonic Adventure due to my affinity for Fleetway. I've warmed to her over time though. I can see that she is both badass and girly.

    • @Fatih_M177
      @Fatih_M177 2 роки тому +6

      @@JohnnyVector understandable i aslo kind of didn't like her at first cause literally the first cutscene with Amy is about her missing sonic XD

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I get it

    • @guyanesegal3166
      @guyanesegal3166 2 роки тому +8

      @@JohnnyVector no one liked Amy in Sonic Adventure. It had nothing to do with Fleetway. Sonic Adventure followed an outdated 1990s trope that treated female characters terribly

    • @guyanesegal3166
      @guyanesegal3166 2 роки тому +2

      @@Fatih_M177 Amy was the girl that women refused to play as. People complain about feminism and SJW-ism today. But when you look at how terrible Amy was in Sonic Adventure. We progressed quite a bit. Don't you think

  • @cpt.straginski161
    @cpt.straginski161 2 роки тому +30

    What i think is pretty interesting about Fleetway Sonic is that it's much more closer to the game, due to authors and artist trying to explain game logic or adapt and interpret plots of old, pretty abstract, videogame stories

  • @tylerhughes9090
    @tylerhughes9090 2 роки тому +80

    I always preferred Amy old design, to her more modern design !

  • @grinbrothers
    @grinbrothers 2 роки тому +30

    Growing up with Fleetway, whilst I didn't question character absences in the Mega Drive Sonic games, I was shocked seeing the canon portrayal of characters such as Amy in Sonic Adventure. Amy's Fleetway design is super cool and I do like her development as a character, but I'm also fond of the sweet yet comedic focused approach of the Adventure/Sonic X and beyond era of Amy.
    5:36 - In particular, whilst the crossbow is super distinct and cool, the Piko Piko hammer feels far more natural within the role of a fast-paced platformer, especially in how it's been utilised for extra momentum and height in Sonic games.

  • @eclipsez9108
    @eclipsez9108 2 роки тому +20

    omg, i love this amy now. Now I finally know what the Techno and Classic Amy fan art is about. Amy being in a different type of clothing suits her as well, but of course when adapting into games and cartoons you need an iconic way of letting the viewer know what character is which, for marketing. But still, thank you for this video, I am now going to ebay dive for fleetaway comics.

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +2

      I wish you the best of luck finding some on ebay

    • @eclipsez9108
      @eclipsez9108 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnnyVector thank you! It'd be cool as well since the sonic movie is all about references, if they were to put Amy in it last minute it would be in her fleetaway classic or regular classic form so she can distinct from sonic. I honestly never liked her bobbed quill look. I'm not sure if they made her quills like that because it was a popular style at the time or what.

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 2 роки тому +12

    Literally just finished binging your whole Character Profile playlist I had to sub

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome, thank you! I hope you enjoy this one too.

  • @dimthedimwit7221
    @dimthedimwit7221 2 роки тому +66

    When I first saw the original Amy design from CD after being used to the current one, it looked odd. It seems much better to me now after a few years though.

    • @ITRASHBOATI
      @ITRASHBOATI 2 роки тому +6

      Amy is like the only character where I prefer their classic design

    • @jarretthoffler6208
      @jarretthoffler6208 2 роки тому

      @@ITRASHBOATI Bruh/

  • @MrNetWraith
    @MrNetWraith 2 роки тому +19

    Fleetway Amy's archery skills are particularly fun to contemplate when you consider that, over in America's Archie Sonicverse, Amy is the cousin of the Robin Hood-inspired Mobian king "Rob o' the Hedge".

  • @Buddy_Duck
    @Buddy_Duck Рік тому +7

    Huh… learning about this, honestly it sounds like the people at idw took inspiration from these comics with Amy’s leadership role.

  • @klas-6
    @klas-6 2 роки тому +12

    I like to imagine the Fleetway Sonic gang having British accents

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +4

      Haha, we have plenty of regional accents to go around

  • @antrox2346
    @antrox2346 Рік тому +10

    I disagree. This versions of Amy isn't Bad. But the best? No way.

  • @slycooperrocks5826
    @slycooperrocks5826 Рік тому +18

    I've never even heard of this version of Amy before but she sounds like a badass. I'd love to see this Amy and Carmelita Fox team up. A badass hedgehog and a badass fox.

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  Рік тому +3

      Good call. I've always got time for some Sly Cooper!

  • @Leffrey
    @Leffrey 2 роки тому +7

    Amy is probably one of the most underutilised characters in the Sonic franchise. Her relationshipwith Sonic is often just the butt of the joke, rather than the setup even though they can have great chemistry together

    • @skeetermagee2487
      @skeetermagee2487 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly

    • @onyxangelle
      @onyxangelle 2 роки тому +2

      @@secoTheSonicFan what are you talking about? Amy definitely belongs in the series. Why single her out over the vast variety of other characters in the franchise even though she predates over 95% of them?

    • @dragondelsur5156
      @dragondelsur5156 Рік тому

      @@secoTheSonicFan Who asked for your circus to come in here?

  • @jazzygryphon
    @jazzygryphon 2 роки тому +19

    This video made me appreciate Amy a lot more and makes me want to check out the Sonic the Comic comicbooks! I am someone who does not really care for Amy due to how they portrayed her for so long in the mainline series (as Sonic's obsessive fangirl). The recent-ish switch to make her more of a character who stands out on her own and not all crazy over Sonic like she used to be felt like it kinda came out of nowhere, so my opinion on her did not really shift with this seemingly sudden change. However, I think if the mainline series was in line with her Fleetway counterpart, she maybe would have ended up being one of my favorite characters! Just from this one video, I can definitely agree that Fleetway Amy _is_ the best iteration of Amy!

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 2 роки тому +12

    Actually Amy’s Piko Piko Hammer first appeared in Sonic The Fighters.

  • @GIJOEFAN-ys8gp
    @GIJOEFAN-ys8gp 2 роки тому +18

    I think the concept art for Amy in Sonic Prime is inspired by her Fleetway appearance. Which makes sense since the show is targeted towards long time fans including those who grew up reading Sonic the Comic. And giving her a crossbow is an interesting idea.

  • @trumpeterjen
    @trumpeterjen 2 роки тому +19

    I'd never want Amy to lose the hammer. It suits her straightforward personality and courage. She's not the strongest or fastest, but she's still the first to charge right into battle as a brave brawler.
    That said, it'd be cool if she were an expert in all kinds of weaponry to show she's taken the time and effort to master external weapons since she doesn't have the natural speed, strength, and flight that the main three have. Conjuring weapons out of thin air fits her subtle magical abilities, too. Forget Shadow's guns. Amy was the original weapons expert.

    • @UnluckySuperstition
      @UnluckySuperstition Рік тому +3

      That'd be really awesome honestly, and it could theoretically give her and Tails a stronger bond with each other (and by association Sonic too) if he were to say, be making experimental weapons and combat training courses for her to practice and train with, or even just buffing weapons Amy already has strong interest in. It could be a natural progression of her romantic interests in Sonic and the want to be around to be able to help others, and temper it into developing skills, strengthening friendships and bonds between Sonic and Tails and herself, and in turn Mastering skills and arts no one else in the group has and being able to take down enemies without the natural abilities other members of the group have.
      And on top of weaponry, her interest in magical arts and the dabbling in Tarot readings could be expanded on and used to predict incidents in advanced to counteract, or prepare for whatever happens.

    • @trumpeterjen
      @trumpeterjen Рік тому

      @@UnluckySuperstition I like your ideas! She's also shown to be a great leader at times, and that last part could figure in perfectly with her being a good tactician. She has a lot of potential.

    • @Legend-io4pz
      @Legend-io4pz 7 місяців тому

      I agree 1000 also give Amy A GIRLFRIEND @@UnluckySuperstition​

  • @jyllianrainbow7371
    @jyllianrainbow7371 2 роки тому +8

    I'm too nostalgic for Sonic Adventure 1 Amy's design.

  • @Blake-kr6pd
    @Blake-kr6pd 2 роки тому +16

    Loved the Fleetway comics. Fleetway Amy is best Amy.

  • @welchrebooted4739
    @welchrebooted4739 Рік тому +8

    Fleetway Amy is a very underrated version of the character, the crossbow is pretty cool imo and would like if it somehow made it into the games.

  • @Kerianya
    @Kerianya Рік тому +8

    I also grew up with STC, and I absolutely loved Amy. The Fleetway comics version of Amy is the best version of her by a long shot. I also thought she was older than many of the other versions are.
    I'm probably one of the minority who enjoyed the ring of eternity arc, mainly for the variety (I believe the Hercules story was also the one that ended with Amy telling Tekno she really enjoyed the food)
    Amy's origin story did give me a little theory as to why she is such a competent archer. Hedgehogs aren't known for their good vision normally, so I was thinking that perhaps Amy's vision was heightened as a result of the reaction. Having such a change to her vision might also have explained why she wasn't quite as heroic in her first appearance, as she might have been getting used to it. A flimsy theory, admittedly, but one I enjoy.

  • @AutisticNotWeird
    @AutisticNotWeird 11 місяців тому +3

    I've never been a huge Amy fan, but I felt quite emotional watching this. I never realised how much of an absolute legend Fleetway Amy was until quite recently- she's absolutely my favourite incarnation of her- and it was so cathartic listening to you discussing it in details.

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 2 роки тому +16

    Gosh I really wish I could read fleetway comics😊

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +5

      They should be available scanned somewhere if you have a look around. Hope you get the chance to read them

  • @vegetafan9922
    @vegetafan9922 Рік тому +4

    It would've been cool if in the Mario and Sonic at the Olympics games gave Amy the best accuracy at the archery minigames as a reference to Fleetway.

  • @indieoddjobs4766
    @indieoddjobs4766 2 роки тому +10

    Wow I'm really digging Fleetway's version of Amy a lot! Now I kind of wish I had grown up besides this and game Amy because I find her and Tekno's chemistry really great and refreshing

  • @kenn_k
    @kenn_k 2 роки тому +10

    4:34 The combination of what's being said here along with the artwork on screen made me briefly consider Knuckles and Amy as a couple and I may just start saying I ship them to fuck with the fanbase
    Also, if Amy is ever playable again, they'd make so many people happy by including the plaid skirt/t-shirt fit as DLC or something. I mean, they've incorporated Knuckles' hat from the OVA into the games more than once (I really just wish they'd just make it part of his official design, lmao) as well as Tangle and Whisper, Longclaw, movie Sonic... Let's go, SEGA

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 2 роки тому

      Don't forget Amy's Sonic X Dress from Episode 15 that was just as iconic. That said the plaid skirt was great for Amy & really we need to play as her more. You should have mentioned Jewel as she is the Flight member of Team Tangle.

  • @BlackFlash09
    @BlackFlash09 2 роки тому +48

    Anyone who thinks IDW Amy is a rip-off of Sally has clearly never read the Fleetway Comics. I'm glad she was being treated better in this series, compared to what they were doing with her in the Archie Comics.
    A couple of corrections:
    1. The first appearance of Amy's Piko Piko Hammer was in the Sonic the Fighters arcade game.
    2. I'm pretty sure the village was Emerald Hill Zone, not Green Hill Zone.
    Anyways, thanks for the Fleetway Amy video! Will you ever cover the Fleetway Freedom Fighters?

  • @rock10zxa
    @rock10zxa 2 роки тому +50

    while i'm down with an Amy that has more going for her in addition to her admirable dedication to sonic, honestly it gets tiresome seeing any newly introduced friendship be over exaggerated as romantic by a certain group of fans.

    • @TomWHuxley
      @TomWHuxley 2 роки тому +4

      @@secoTheSonicFan had nothing to do with any "female supervisor". The writer avoided romantic storylines as he didn't think they would appeal to the children, usually boys, who read it.

    • @callie-flower3177
      @callie-flower3177 Рік тому +1

      is this about sonic and amy or tekno and amy because that "certain group of fans" ain't as slick as you think it is lmao

    • @callie-flower3177
      @callie-flower3177 Рік тому +2

      cranky people interpreted amy and tekno as wlw aren't we

    • @draw2death421
      @draw2death421 Рік тому

      Yeah and sonic doesent even like her that way so its just weird

  • @Lawliet31101979
    @Lawliet31101979 Рік тому +3

    The upward spines look so good, the best Amy design.

  • @ms046
    @ms046 2 роки тому +41

    This video was fantastic, and a great deep-dive into my personal favourite version of Amy! Fleetway seemed to have a knack for making some fantastic versions of pre-existing characters (most notably with Knuckles and Robotnik), and Amy's obviously no expection to that

  • @BlueMageWithSoulEdge
    @BlueMageWithSoulEdge Рік тому +6

    I don't know dude.
    From how it looks, the lead writer was right to try to squash the "Amy" idea 'cause she sound like a "Mary Sue". When it gets to the point when she is better than everyone else-- all the time, then what is the point of everyone else? When you over shadow the hero of the book, then why should I even read?
    It don't sound like a "good Amy"; it sounds like a character being hi-jacked.

  • @rejectclone4504
    @rejectclone4504 2 роки тому +52

    I've always thought Fleetway's Amy design was the cutest to me! I like how it isn't OVERLY feminine (yes there is of course the fact that she's wearing a plaid skirt and the heart t-shirt, but compare that to modern Amy's dress with a underskirt shot that really shouldn't be there for a young female character 😖) and the different hair style really makes Amy appear more rebellious and spunky!

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 2 роки тому +3

      She still looks like a cutesy punkrock schoolgirl in the Fleetway adaptation & really the plaid skirt is more feminine than what I see girls wear on a regular basis. Lisa Ortiz was the best VA for Amy for that cute, spunky performance & I have to admit I headcanon her to have that voice when reading Sonic the Comic.

    • @bobtheball5384
      @bobtheball5384 2 роки тому +1

      Even though I love modern Amy and or just Amy in general being portrayed as feminine I really like this look for her too. And thank God I'm not the only one bothered by the upskirts. The fact that her model still has this problem in like generations...yeah

    • @WaterKirby1994
      @WaterKirby1994 2 роки тому +2

      @@bobtheball5384 I fail to see how upskirts are a problem exactly, that used to be normal even Stateside if you look at old stuff. Besides the blink & you miss it upskirts are realistic in a series that people used to love for the game physics. You clearly care more about this than Amy herself does.

    • @dragondelsur5156
      @dragondelsur5156 Рік тому +3

      @@WaterKirby1994 People complaining about the panty shots have never seen Sakura (from Street Fighter).

  • @Renegade666
    @Renegade666 2 роки тому +5

    Veteran fleetway reader here, yeah I remember Amy being portrayed pretty well. She was never my fave character but did a good job at holding the fort down and I always considered her the level headed one

  • @spacelem
    @spacelem 2 роки тому +3

    I only had issues 2-120 (yes, I missed Issue 1), but I definitely remember all these old stories and Amy's growth over the years!

  • @silentbungaming3147
    @silentbungaming3147 2 роки тому +5

    17:17 I imagine that shirt says Weird Science. A 1985 comedy film about 2 teenagers that create their perfect woman using a computer.

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks, make sense. A random reference though!

  • @MenchisMenagerie
    @MenchisMenagerie Рік тому +7

    Always did enjoy Amy in this incarnation when reading the comics way back, it felt like she fit to the story and added to it with how they worked with her characterisation. Gotta admit even before I knew what 'shipping' was couldn't help but see Amy and Tekno being a pairing with how they interacted and always had each others backs.

    • @hackerninjaexe5791
      @hackerninjaexe5791 Рік тому +2

      Personally I only shipped them platonically way to be honest

    • @MenchisMenagerie
      @MenchisMenagerie Рік тому +2

      @@hackerninjaexe5791 Nowt wrong with that at all, thats the fun part of fandom. We all get different things from it. :)

  • @golork3267
    @golork3267 Рік тому +1

    What I like about this Amy was that she was not only crafty she was also never there for the popularity. Her only focus was earning Sonic's acknowledgment and being a heroine. There's one issue where Sonic is fighting an seemingly undefeatable foe and it's Amy is finds out the weakness.
    But instead of beating them and taking the credit of defeating a foe Sonic seemingly couldn't. She instead frames it as Sonic's victory. She did it not only to help Sonic's rep and maintaining his place as a beacon of hope. But also to keep Sonic's pride from being wounded. Sonic may have never openly returned Amy's affections but he definitely had a good future partner in the pink hedgehog within the Fleetway continuity.

  • @blazeneko3384
    @blazeneko3384 2 роки тому +7

    I love this Amy, I was talking to someone about her, but I'm bad at explaining things, so I looked on UA-cam to see if anyone talked about her, all I found was this channel, and I so enjoy watching these as they bring back such good memories X3
    also I never liked game Amy because I grow up on this Amy X3

  • @onyxangelle
    @onyxangelle 2 роки тому +5

    Honestly, I love Amy in general. Specifically Modern. But I will say I can't get enough of the classic her. She's such a cute, spunky badass girl. She's feminine but a tomboy at heart. Not only is Fleetway my favorite design for her but it was an interesting twist on her character, much better than what they have had going for her in recent years imo. This comic was weird but unique and it did Amy way more justice than Archie ever cared to do for her anyway.

  • @VexedVergil
    @VexedVergil Рік тому +4

    I like her spikey hair design ad well, but I've always been a fan of the amy-sonic ship

  • @lazarus1715
    @lazarus1715 2 роки тому +6

    I really appreciate you making these fleetway videos! I would love to see a video on the lesser characters in Sonic the Comic!

  • @Acidicstudios
    @Acidicstudios 2 роки тому +6

    Did you ever read through the official online continuation over at Sonic The Comic Online? It got some actually pretty slick issues, including an actual proper ending to the series made by the people who originally worked on the original comic.
    The art in it can range between being incredible to being a bit iffy to downright bad here and there, but then thats how it was with the original comic series too.

  • @RedTygon
    @RedTygon 2 роки тому +4

    I really wish they went with this iteration of Amy as opposed to the joke that exists today. Only version of Amy I ever liked was in STC.

  • @Mr.Glaube
    @Mr.Glaube 2 роки тому +3

    I like fleetway Amy because she loves sonic still, but I’d also way more independent, she‘s like the Samus of the sonic universe

  • @riicky83
    @riicky83 Рік тому +2

    The first meeting with Fabian Vane was also the last time Amy stopped wore skirts before moving onto trousers as she had one panel where she dodged an attack and the angle gave us what should've been an upskirt shot but the comic censored it by doing the heavy shadow effect to cover the entire area kinda like how some old 3d game sprite have the legs come from the bottom of the skirt rather than coming out of the skirt.

  • @revalentinemashups510
    @revalentinemashups510 2 роки тому +4

    So, Amy spent some time as the leader of the freedom fighters here? Makes me wonder if her becoming the Resistance leader in IDW was inspired by this. I love Amy currently (at least in her better appearances) but this is a take i can get down with.
    Teknamy is the new otp

  • @herrice3227
    @herrice3227 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for reminding me that STC rules ok lol
    As for Amy, of course I love her in STC, but I really like her in Boom too. A mix of the two would be the ideal Amy IMO

  • @charlieoreal
    @charlieoreal 2 роки тому +1

    17:14 Amy's shirt says weird science. "Weird Science" is a movie that came out in 1985.

  • @segaboi915
    @segaboi915 Рік тому +3

    HOLY HELL, WTF IS UP WITH TAILS' FOREHEAD?!?! 8:03

    • @videotape2959
      @videotape2959 10 місяців тому +2

      I don't know. The drawings look odd in this comic.

  • @ParappatheRapper
    @ParappatheRapper 2 роки тому +5

    I didn't know much about this Amy and I have to agree this version of her is much more interesting but I'm also partial to the alternative/grunge/punk look she has going on. On her hair, I'm pretty torn. I do like the punk look but she looks cute with the spines down as well. In my opinion, her hair changing depending on what she's doing/mood would be kind of neat. If I had to choose though, the liberty spike look is a bit cooler.
    I like also that her character had some growth, losing her immense obsession with Sonic as she grew and got stronger herself. I think it's neat when a character has that kind of change and in the end it is a very nice role model for girls (or anyone) to look up to.
    17:20
    The reference has to be 'Weird Science'. An American science fiction comedy movie made in 1985. Kind of a cult classic in the US.
    Thanks for the video. Very informative and I have a new appreciation for this Amy (who I already liked the design of better than modern Amy with the bob haircut).

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 2 роки тому +4

    Fleetway Amy is definitely a cool character, but I do still prefer the more adorable yet still brave Amy we got from Adventure onwards in the games. Fleetway's design isn't quite my thing, not that fitting for her. Tho I'll admit her and Tekno are cute (although if you ask me her and Blaze are the cuter couple).
    As for the crossbow, I prefer the hammer. Another comment sums it up best, it's a versatile weapon that makes Amy a wild card. It has enormous power, allows for acrobatics, can create tornados and is overall both awesome and adorable.
    Overall Amy's game self actually isn't too far off from her Fleetway appearance. While she still does have a crush on Sonic, it's downplayed nowadays and she's more independent from Adventure onwards, even becoming the forth member of Team Sonic and forming Team Rose. Regardless Amy is a great character and one of my favorites regardless of universe. . .excluding the Dimps games. They just don't know how to write Amy well.

  • @kayanorudog2638
    @kayanorudog2638 Рік тому +3

    Yeah, this is my favorite version of Amy too.
    I do wish they would do a rerelease of the comics in giant volumes or something.
    I always read them through websites or UA-cam videos.

  • @CulturePhilter
    @CulturePhilter 2 роки тому +3

    Defiantly a fleetway Amy fan. Find her game appearances jaring as I grew up on these comics.

  • @ffiordhn
    @ffiordhn Рік тому +2

    Amy, Tekno and Ebony would be the perfect trio/team

  • @red20753
    @red20753 2 роки тому +7

    You know...i never cared that much about Fleetway, it appeared to be too weird for me. But you are seriously making me wanting to give it a try sometime

  • @amb3rrif1c
    @amb3rrif1c Рік тому +3

    I never expected Amy to wield a crossbow. I’m so used to her big toy hammer that hearing that Fleetway Amy’s weapon is a crossbow gave me some whiplash lol

    • @anthonyguarino4242
      @anthonyguarino4242 Рік тому +1

      So therefore, the fleetway version is an only version of Amy to not have Piko Piko hammer at all (not counting sonic CD game which was before fleetway)

  • @SapphireKnight675
    @SapphireKnight675 Рік тому +4

    while this version certainly sound interesting, she also a completely different character, the crossbow would come off as weird since it just doesn't fit her game portrayal, and I honestly find the characterization off, I don't mind the obsession getting toned down but not completely erased, her Tomboy personality is fine, and honestly, SEGA could play with the sister like relationship with her and Cream similar to Sonic and Tails, but again, everyone got sabotaged in the games during the 2010s, also, I do like the Origin story it gave Sonic and Eggman, it connects the more

  • @nowlwane9623
    @nowlwane9623 2 роки тому +1

    I like Amy in sonic exe blood tears. She was loving during Sonic’s darkest moments.

  • @ToyFreddyGaming1987
    @ToyFreddyGaming1987 Рік тому +3

    Not gonna lie I think the spiked up spines really work for Amy. Something about them just looks cool to me.

  • @spareaccount5734
    @spareaccount5734 Рік тому +1

    Lol I love all her band tees. Love it. Btw the shirt in that final ring of eternity thing was a shirt that said "weird science" in reference to the oingo bingo song of the same name. Anyway, her character design in fleetway is great

  • @TonySpike
    @TonySpike 2 роки тому +3

    this video is good timing, because i just got round to watching the second sonic film, and i just commented on somecallmejohnnys video review of it that if they did put amy in the 3rd film (something he wondered) it best be fleetway amy
    btw her shirt in that one panel i think is supposed to be wierd science, as in the 80s film

  • @metalskulkbanepl161
    @metalskulkbanepl161 2 роки тому +4

    Personally I feel like Fleetway Amy lacks personality (And yes I read whole STC. And STC-O). She's a little too perfect.
    She's lacks super powers but keeps ups with the boys thanks to smarts, toughness and bravery.
    That's Sally Acorn, Black Widow, Gwen Tennyson. Good company, sure, but it's a stereotype in which Amy doesn't stand out.
    I preferred her at beginning when she had crush on Sonic. It gave her playful edge. And Archie/IDW is eveything Fletway Amy is, plus kindness and emphaty. She's the heart of the Sonic Friends, without loosing her strenght.

  • @ITRASHBOATI
    @ITRASHBOATI 2 роки тому +5

    as someone who doesn’t wanna read the fleetway comics, I love these videos. those comics are definitely fun to learn about due to the different takes on characters. what’s your opinion on IDW Amy taking on a leadership role at times again?

  • @Bobby20NL
    @Bobby20NL Рік тому +2

    This is my favorite design Amy is already my number one favorite female character but with this design I like her even more

  • @bluebelt1235
    @bluebelt1235 2 роки тому +3

    I think Amy should still crush on Sonic but not as clingy and be as strategic as her Fleetway counterpart

  • @urbynwyldcat9131
    @urbynwyldcat9131 2 роки тому +6

    I was wondering if you would ever consider doing a video like this for the Omni Viewer. I find him to be one of the more mysterious characters in STC. We never really find out how he became friends with Sonic or Chaotix and what his origins are. I'm assuming he was 'built' by someone or something.
    He has very similar traits to the Ring of Eternity, perhaps they were constructed by the same entity.
    As a kid, I kind of imagined that Ommi Viewer was the literal TV screen that we as gamers viewed Sonic and his friends on during the Mega Drive era, kinda like the cameraman Lakitu from Mario 64.
    Idk, what d'you think, man?

  • @TailsClock
    @TailsClock 2 роки тому +20

    I've somehow never even heard of this version of Amy before. Every time I saw the non-adventure hairstyle, I just assumed it was some old Sonic CD fanart. I'm stunned that we had a good version of Amy all these years, hidden away. And that sadly she's gone now. Modern Amy even when written better, feels like a inferior character... But, if they ever do something as insane as having Amy and Sonic get together and have a child, then I feel like ignoring all the problems that would have, design-wise, Fleetway Amy would be perfect to use for their daughter. That's really the only way I can see the best Amy coming back... Unless maybe the Mania universe continues?

  • @ShadtheHedgehog4321
    @ShadtheHedgehog4321 2 роки тому +16

    Fun fact, Sonic the Comic Online has an issue written by Nigel called Exit: Sonic. It acts as a finale to the series. It states that Amy and Tekno did get together and started a family. They even name their kid after Johnny.

    • @anthonyguarino4242
      @anthonyguarino4242 Рік тому +1

      Just WHAT?! Amy and Tekno?! That’s impossible because they are both girls, so how can they possibly have a kid named after Johnny?! That doesn’t make any senses unless you meant that they adopted a kid named after Johnny. There’s no way that a woman with a woman can possibly have biological kids together!

    • @ShadtheHedgehog4321
      @ShadtheHedgehog4321 Рік тому

      @@anthonyguarino4242 Ever heard of a sperm bank before? How about you do proper research on IUIs before writing a vaguely homophobic statement on two women having a family.

    • @anthonyguarino4242
      @anthonyguarino4242 Рік тому +1

      @@ShadtheHedgehog4321 i said “unless you meant that they adopted a kid named after Johnny”. Your comment made it seem like they made their biological kid together naturally. You should’ve rephrased your comment before everyone else think your comment suggest that they did it naturally.

    • @ShadtheHedgehog4321
      @ShadtheHedgehog4321 Рік тому

      @@anthonyguarino4242 I said they started a family together and they had a kid. That works for both adoption and giving birth. They never specified which, but it works for both. Sorry you misread my comment and you overreacted.

    • @anthonyguarino4242
      @anthonyguarino4242 Рік тому

      @@ShadtheHedgehog4321 don’t apologize, it’s not your fault. Maybe they should’ve rephrased these facts from Amy and Tekno being mommies to their kid named after Johnny.

  • @byjohan832
    @byjohan832 Рік тому +1

    I really like her clothe combination! It's a nice balance between cute and cool, perfect for her.

  • @theinktician
    @theinktician 2 роки тому +5

    She's alright. I like this, but I think the main difference is that she's a true protagonist in STC vs being a traditional side character (despite what Sonic fans believe) in the game canon. Development requires focus, and she's only been focused on in 3 games, and most of her development happens in her 1st (SA1). Devolving into a trope with less focus each game. This made her change in character in IDW random and unprovoked. Had she obtained the proper development to show how she gained the ability to lead a militia, her character in the beginning of IDW would have made sense. This sort of goes for Knuckles in Forces too in some capacity. Yes, his tribe was of warring people, but he had no knowledge of them based on SA1. That basically leaves Sonic and Tails - and I'd assume Tails was the original leader based off the SA2 mission (I won't count Sonic X where he was the captain of their....warship)

    • @dragondelsur5156
      @dragondelsur5156 Рік тому +1

      If you only see her development in SA1, you missed. Amy had a team in Heroes, the reason she keeps Cream and Big united is through her own attitude, otherwise they could've just given up after the first stage. She's not a strategist but the way she leads is by getting people to listen to her.

  • @gamebyanguirusxd
    @gamebyanguirusxd 2 роки тому +3

    Boom Amy during this whole thing:

  • @joshwaterfield2483
    @joshwaterfield2483 Рік тому

    Used to love these comics when I was a kid. They went off sale while I was still going and never understood why. But seeing all the shots of these pages all these years later is bringing back awesome memories. My mum used to buy me the comic every other Friday from our local Morrisons, and I would read it while I ate my chippy dinner. Good times!!

  • @canUsaythis
    @canUsaythis 2 роки тому +4

    I really love watching these videos about fleetway comics *I grew up with these comics so it's such Nostalgia for me* I would love to see if you would do the Knuckles Story Arc where he has to get some Scrolls for the Floating Island due to him helping out Captain Plunder OR him trying the repair the Master Emerald?

  • @itz_frostangel
    @itz_frostangel Рік тому +1

    17:17 I think Amy's shirt says Weird Science, which is an 80s movie and I think is also an 90s TV show

    • @notsosuperpete1689
      @notsosuperpete1689 Рік тому

      I think he was joking because it was so obvious. He made the same joke about the Peter Andre parody character: 11:34

  • @TheGoatShag
    @TheGoatShag 2 роки тому +2

    Your videos are always well made💛

  • @Harmony270
    @Harmony270 2 роки тому +2

    i already like the design a lot more then any other

  • @Ajnin42
    @Ajnin42 2 роки тому +5

    craziest thing is growing up in America and thinking everyone just read the archie run. Had no idea the Fleetway comics even existed. Very cool.

    • @JohnnyVector
      @JohnnyVector  2 роки тому +3

      Awesome. I had a similar revelation when I discovered the Archie comics existed (I loved browsing through the covers on Sonic Mega Collection)

    • @Ajnin42
      @Ajnin42 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnnyVector Subbing for more Fleetway content. Love your channel.

  • @joshuarobinson8529
    @joshuarobinson8529 2 роки тому +1

    The crossbow was nice.

  • @lakaylaporter6322
    @lakaylaporter6322 2 роки тому +2

    Base on this video I think fleetway Amy is a interesting take on her character but I still have a soft spot for game Amy (background content and when she better written) and idw Amy (and maybe boom Amy too).
    I like how she goes from damsel in distress to heroine because of her crush and her friends inspired her to.
    I like how she doesn’t start off that strong at first so she trains (boxing and her piko hammer). And even when she didn’t have the strength she still tries her best to help with her strongest weapon, compassion.
    I actually like sonic and Amy relationship (when it’s well written) because it’s interesting to me compare to other relationships (romantic and friendship wise).
    And I really like how she girly (open with her crushes, love for baking,shopping,etc) while also being a powerful character and leader.
    For now most versions of Amy (including this one in the video) have something that I like but also have something missing (or are flawed due bad writing). I hopefully if she’s in the third movie we might get the best version of her if they take the best traits from past content.
    Sorry if this is a bit long.
    I just really like this character (I think she really underrated).

  • @WolfFistProductions
    @WolfFistProductions 2 роки тому

    I love your videos. They are fun and informative. Thank you for all the work you do man. A

  • @PilloTheStar
    @PilloTheStar Рік тому +4

    I've always despised amy as a character, at least until her sonic boom incarnation. So seeing that there's another version of her that actually has some depth is a breath of fresh air.

    • @antrox2346
      @antrox2346 Рік тому +1

      Boom Amy is bland.

    • @PilloTheStar
      @PilloTheStar Рік тому

      YOU'RE bland.

    • @a_naotenhonome780
      @a_naotenhonome780 10 місяців тому +3

      Imagine hating a character for being bland /having no depth and liking Cream the rabbit lmao, who is basically a bland version of mainline Amy

  • @me_mespoop5394
    @me_mespoop5394 Рік тому +1

    I love these vids so much. I'd rlly like some more on the other comics like idw, characters like surge

  • @slimeprivilege
    @slimeprivilege 2 роки тому

    12:57 that last panel is SO CUTE god i really need to get around to reading the Sonic comics

  • @skeetermagee2487
    @skeetermagee2487 2 роки тому +4

    I still think Adventure 1 Amy is amazing!

  • @jsanchez23
    @jsanchez23 Рік тому

    Surprised I haven't seen anyone mention this, but Amy's shirt that says Weird "something" is definitely saying and Referencing the Movie Weird Science.

  • @anaveragehedgehog
    @anaveragehedgehog 2 роки тому +10

    I agree honestly. This Amy is much more fleshed out and is actually independent, instead of "aAAaaAA mArRy mE sOniC"

    • @sugamamaproud9810
      @sugamamaproud9810 2 роки тому +4

      She have been thro independent trait, the comic book ain't no different than her video game counterpart, expect for free rider battle got get you that. But whole merry sonic thing, it was play put for joke not take it seriously.

    • @dragondelsur5156
      @dragondelsur5156 Рік тому

      -Dear god this fandom- Could you fucking watch her portrayals using the two braincells you have?

  • @samuelrodriguez9801
    @samuelrodriguez9801 Рік тому +1

    I think that shirt says Weird Science.