26.30 Lovin it mate best tv ive seen all year....Snake skin boots and ducati aftershave ,walking down the catwalk hahaha very italian !!! Absolutely bloody brilliant !!! Thankyou so much you made my day with this...Im saviing up to get a yam r6 in a few months....cant bloody wait...Im not gay......But them police need Einen size 13 boot banana slamming right up their boot
I was "caught" speeding in Italy fourteen years ago on my R1, on the autostrada north of Naples I flew past an Alfa Romeo just realising it was a cop car as I passed it, I of course slowed way down only for the Alfa to pull level and the cop in the passenger seat gave me the international sign to wind it on, I duly obliged. on that trip I found the Italian cops love bikes and only ever stopped me to have a look at the bike and some even showed me pictures of their own bikes, a real bike and biker loving country!
@@finished6553 You're absolutely right about that as I got booked for speeding just outside Genoa, it's like the north and south of Italy are two different countries.
Fabulous video as ever and really feel for you guys picking up that mahoosive fine - you have however done the travelling biking fraternity a huge favour in drawing attention to this, so although it won't make you feel any better, thanks for highlighting the punitive fines in Switzerland......take it easy out there folks!
I am so so glad I discovered 44 Teeth just a few weeks ago (I am WAY behind!!). Absolute ultimate bike bloke viewing. The adventures, the racing, the bantastic chat...bloody love it. All of it. And I'm never eating Toblerone again.
guys, I could just feel the whole atmosphere of this video. I live in Switzerland and am currently waiting for my 2000-3000 CHF Speeding fine to come in the mail. I'm a 22y/0 student and paid about 3200 for the bike that I used to speed. I took a shot of (cheap) whiskey with you in front of my PC! Lots of love for this series, cheers guys!
I have seen what a criminal racket the govt has set up. Very well organised and ready to converge on any unsuspecting victim to demand fines that are 20 times what should ever be assessed AND DEMAND THEM PAID ON THE SPOT
@@megapet777 The average revenue here is around 5000 USD, not 800... But yep its still very punitive. I think tickets should be a % of your income and not a defined price
@@azypk yeah that ticket price is just insane. Kills the whole mood of motorcycling in that country. If I ever visit Switzerland, I definitely won't be riding there.
Well jokes on them as you've probably just saved thousands of bikers getting done in Switzerland and cost the country tens of, if not hundreds of thousands in future fines, so fckem.
Yeah people. Dont come to swotzerland. They just want money. I recommend germany better law. The fines are okay not like switzerland the rip you off. Or go to Austria it is almost the same shit with the mountains just cheaper in any way.
Dont drive fast in switzerland if you Cant afford the fines… or dont get busted. If you drive 64 kmh over the Limit you shouldnt be surprised abouit a hefty fine. a few kmh more and your bikes would have been confiscated
Gutted for you Baron Von Bell End :-( Love Swiss roads, beautiful country, absolute C U Next Tuesday rules and Police! Big group of us got done last year for using low grade walkie talkies, 1000 swiss francs each... Never going back to Switzerland again! Love your work lads
This video made me very sad because it just goes to prove what I have suspected for some years - I can no longer really visit the Alps on my own 999. I've done all the passes, several of them many times. I once did 12 of them in one day on an 851. But although I live in Switzerland, I just haven't dared to head out there for some time because I live in fear of something like this happening. You cannot ride an 999 legally in Switzerland. It can't be done. If you tried you'd have much more fun taking the train. Ever since they changed the law in 2012 or 2013 it has been the death knell for sports biking in this country, a place that was once the world mecca for biking. Very, very sad.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 if you spend your motorcycling life at 50 mph you’d be better off selling your bike, assuming you’re old enough to own one, and buying a 50cc scooter instead. Or do I suspect an HD rider here? Then sure, no doubt 50mph suits you fine. But why would you want to waste your time looking at 44Teeth videos?
Reading a few of the comments below. The problem is they weren't riding like idiots, they are two experienced motorcyclists and as he said it's just a quick squirt of throttle to go "x2". Didn't see anything over the top in their riding. I am a retired traffic cop from Ireland and would have been very reluctant to enforce that rate of punishment, fortunately we were allowed to think for ourselves and use our discretion, sometimes a word of advice pointing out what could happen is appropriate, log them on the system has having received a warning and then play it by ear if they're caught again.
Here in Switzerland I'm afraid if you get stopped by the police you are either a) going to get fined or b) going to prison. End of. The police are given no training in discretion. It is also illegal to have dash cams and the like as it is an infringement of the privacy laws. So they were very lucky they didn't have all their camera gear confiscated. This also applies to speed camera detectors and speed camera apps on your navi system. As mentioned elsewhere in the replies most bikers here "scout the course" and keep an eye open for the oncoming bikes who will always let you know if something is coming up: Having said all of that Switzerland is still a great place to do bike tours, but if you want speed you have to go to Germany.
i guess the guy pointing at you was telling you to slow down... 138 km/h is bad enough, but anything over 140 km/h in an 80-zone (for us swiss anyway, not sure about foreigners) will mean that your bike gets impounded and auctioned off with all the profit going to the state, while you will get your licence suspended for a minimum of 2 years and a possible prison sentence.
Thats ridiculous, you lads should do a coo and blockade the state royal navy on nepoleon style, and start a manx style government, and you will be the best country in mainland Europe for the first time since the war. Do it. Russia had the Bolshevik revolution, you need the bikervictor revolution, get you're clock maker ocd perfectionists building bikes and racing them and take over the world, bring bikes bake to Europe and leave Japanese bikes behind. Perfect plan. And leave the eu so they don't strangle your new industry with silly rules. Jobs a good'un.
Yes, Chris was "lucky" that he doesn't live here. I got fined 900 Swiss Francs for doing 20 over in the 80 millimetres a year zone. The only way to get around it is to ride the route slowly first, then properly the way back. And watch other bikers' hand signals and give your own.
I was informed of the harsh penalties of speeding in Switzerland before I got there. The lesson for me was, enjoy the riding in France, enjoy riding in Germany, and then just relax, bimble and enjoy the stunning views of Switzerland. Have to say, the roads & the views were so awesome, I loved just taking it easy and soaking it all in and would defo ride there again in a heartbeat.
Ommfg I'm in tears absolutely gutting myself that "boot banana" ad was the funniest shit I've seen in a long time made my day serious I laughed for 5 minutes and had to watch it like 3 times. That was the best ever.
This is the best series I have ever seen guys. You need much more Media Coverage. I was watching BVG for years and I never knew about this channel. Every UK biker (and beyond) should be watching this. This material is so good it should have 000000000's of comments.
Thank you for another awesome episode, despite the mishaps. I somewhat feel your frustration as Switzerland is a beautiful yet dangerous animal to handle. I grew up in Italy but lived in Leicestershire for many years and now in Switzerland, there is a certain period needed to adjust to the fact that speed limits are really enforced and its a big risk; with that being said there is a massive biking community in Switzerland and most of them are ready to take that risk, its a part of the life here and I somewhat respect them for it (as you may have noticed people still driving the shit out of those bikes in CH). Being an avid track day goer I would say it is not an issue, in fact probably nicer than being in the UK; in Switerland you are at the center of some of best European tracks and they are all accessible, but I would visit the UK if I wanted to ride on a damp bumpy track. Also you guys rode from UK to do Mugello, that is a trek!! Have fun and looking forward to the next one!!!
Thing is, you can't do track days in Switzerland because there none. Everyone knows bikers go above the limit, but the lengths one has to go to avoid being caught is ridiculous. It usually means slow one way, then fast back along the same route. Fortunately, if the route is popular with bikers, others will warn you.
Went once. Never again. The people are the dullest on the planet and everything is way over priced. Remember the fuckers stayed neutral in WW2 and hid the Nazis money. Wankers.
eberbacher007 nah they coppers were out to make money nothing else nothing to do with saftey 100 euros for being 2 kmh over the limit for the van that is extreme do they want us watch the speedo and fuck whats infront of us and ride off the side of the road down a big cliff?
😂 I live in Switzerland since ten years and finally I now have a video to explain to my mates why I ride a 50cc scooter now. The speed limits are so crazy that even with a 50 cc scooter you have to pay attention ...
You have to be aware when visiting Switzerland. I was riding with RJ recently and I'm surprised we both kept our licenses. If you get a fine letter sent to outside CH and won't pay your fine, return to CH and get stopped at the border, you get chucked in jail. Two days for doing a white line to precise. Anyway, very well made video as always!
@@dztrbdgod your fine will be sent to your home country. If you don't pay the fine, you will be flagged in Switzerland. At reentry into Switzerland you will have to face the fine... In prison days. Which for doing a solid white line is 400 Franks or two days in prison.
In Canada (at least in Ontario) for that speeding fine you're looking at $2,000 to $10,000, demerit points, bike confiscated, license suspension and jail time. Depends on where it happens, always worse in urban or construction areas. Police have a lot of room to decide the size and extent of the punishment. The biggest speeding fine on road around these parts was in Alberta, $12,000 to a biker going 264km/h. So even though it sucks you were fined, be glad it was just that, it could've been much worse as you said.
Here in Australia [Victoria] that would've been an instant license suspension, court date, and impounded vehicle (anything 45 km/h over the limit fall under hoon laws)
Same here in QLD, can you imagine doing 144kph here, the police would probably kick the shit out of you at the same time! I fcuking hate the approach to speed here, especially given the lack of vehicles and stunning driving roads around where I live in the Samford Valley.
Wrong bikes and driving style for Der Schweiz. I had to downsize from my vtr1000f to a 125 pantheon scooter and was still driving everyday with the possibility of jail if i was caught. Bring your embezzled money and your criminal self, but don't dare break the speed limit. True story.
@@adderladders Wohin fliegst du? In die Schweiz." - correct :) in die Schweiz -> to Switzerland = Nominative or Accusative Case "Wo bist du? In der Schweiz." - correct also ;) in der Schweitz -> in Switzerland = Genitive or Dative Case The role of "Schweiz" is exactly the same in both examples. The only difference is the article because of the different cases.
The Swiss police got you! It‘s a fine business model... but it does spoil the fun (for some). I was just surprised that you were not informed about how stringently speed limits are enforced in Switzerland.
I bet Steve McQueen is glad he never made it over that fence now imagine his fine!!!. Anyhoo great vid now I am off Vlogging late because of your awesomanage..ggges.
An old neighbour of ours got done for “international harp smuggling” when crossing from France to Switzerland. No paperwork apparently whilst he was off to deliver instruments to a concert in Geneva.... :).
@@Al-of3zp That's cool, when ours pull us over for speeding they give off the impression that they're angry that they're not allowed to sodomize us with their nightsticks.
I live in switzerland amd i paid 1000 swissfrancs just for driving in the 50 zone 71kmh -5 tolenace= 16 kmh too much for 1000 francs. Guys you can easly get in to Jail for a little bit speeding.
If they weren't polite, they'd have "incidents". They used to be real cunts when I first got here 30 years ago, but someone twigged that provoking someone you're already buttraping is not the way to live a long happy life. People used to get so freaked out there was even one guy who blew speed cameras up.
We know this problem here in Switzerland... Altough it's incredibly beautiful to ride, we mainly go to the BlackForest in Germany, since you can ride 100km/h on street roads - at least. Good they did not see you filming yourself, since that's also extremely expensive, too. I had to pay CHF 700 for that :(
what? does it mean recording with a helmet camera is illegal in Switzerland? jesus christ...I've done it so many times not even realizing what I was risking XD
It’s a grey area, you can use dashcams because it records over old footage and it respects the privacy. Diffusing videos with no blurred plates/faces is a bit more of an issue though.
I was actually touring in Switzerland last month and amazed by the numbers of road works that were actually manned and working in progress. Now that explains why they could afford it and their workers look so keen with their jobs.
Is this the same country that has people skiing, sliding on tea tray, ski jumping, at speeds of 80mph with only a bicycle helmet for protection, with hundreds of people badly injured every year!!!
Surely they should be nicked for that then, ime suprised the national speed limit doesn't apply to the human body not just vehicles, and they'll have planes trying not to go over 80.9 kph and crashing because of it, so a total ban on air travel in 50 years. Ironic though, motorsport is banned because of 1955 le mans but now its safer than skiing which they are happy to allow.
Apparently there’s no cap to the fines either.. Above 30km/h too fast (outside urban areas) it’s income dependent.. A Swedish dude did 300km/h in an SLS AMG, got a 720.000 Euro fine.. let that sink in for a minute. I never understand people speeding in Switzerland, the risk is just too silly.
That I don't know, but how it works is that they determine an amount between 1 and 3000 Swiss Francs (income determines this) and that amount is multiplied by a factor that is calculated by your infraction. Probably Swiss authorities will have contact with your local authorities and possibly tax office.. I wouldn't know about that. edit: jail is also a possibility... yes, also for speeding. I'd probably take the French/Monaco route to Italy next time .. ;)
I guess they will ask for some form of tax statement proving your income and if you can´t deliver that or they don´t believe you they will do "professional estimation" aka guessing
Same here in Finland. You get fined by your tax information. You get "day fines" with minimum 6€/Day and multiplied depending on how fast you were going. And over 50km/h it's court!
Ffs £3k fine !!!! Imagine being on ur tod and having to take a wonga loan out and camp at side of road for 3 months till ban was up 😂😂😂.... joking aside that could of ended a lot worse ... top vid 👍
hoodie and sticker ordered, you two are legends, I'm doing the euro millions Friday and when I win, will fund whatever battles you like, will pay your speeding fines, but you'll have to suck your own way out of jail i'm afraid, have to draw the line somewhere
I live in switzerland and really know how nice grimsel, furk and Sustenpass are and really tempting. But you allways have to check your speed in those areas, Police are all over the place there and very strickt.... good luck on your trip Love the Video thumbs UP
Aftermakert exhaust are usually not a problem, if you have a E-Nr. on the exhaust (street leagle) and exhaust papers for the bike. But if they want the can still messure the db and if its too loud you could get a ticket. Akra, Termi, Yoshi etc. are mostly fine (street legal version) not race exhaust..
if its street legal with papers (CH) they will and cant do anything. But if you ride around with race fits, baffle out etc they will messup your day fo sure.
Maybe their thinking is that if you sell it, you can pay the fine. they were looking to just do an outright ban on motorcycles a over a decade ago but doing it this way ensures plenty of profit through tourism, speeding fines, impounding and auctioning off the motorcycles all the while discouraging their use by the locals. The swiss government are absolute scum.
Back in the mid 1980s I was riding a GSX1100 around France. I was running an open Harris pipe which the French seemed to love. I thought it'd be nice to visit Switzerland but I got stopped at the border because of my pipe and was denied entry.
Had a similar thing happen to me and 2 friends in Holland in 2015 got a on the spot ban and had to get recovered out of the country into Belgium, we just ignored the letters back home that came for the court summons, needless to say ive not been back to holland :)
So Switzerland has banned racing and hates speeding ever since the 1955 Le Mans disaster, which was caused by Mercedes Benz. Ironically Chris thanks Mercedes for saving his bacon, what a circle.
"So I'll just drink water.......and eat.........grass......" fully cracked me up. Sorry about the shitty experience. I just brought my RSV4 RF back from Vancouver, where the roads are absolutely awesome towards Whistler, to Saskatchewan, where the roads are absolute shit, for this very reason. At least I can wind out the bike..........and wear the centre of the tire out.............but no cops lurking around every corner.........there are no corners.......... :(
MY LORD I miss my 999R!!!! Miss the open dry clutch! You guys are amazing! As an American living in a gorgeous place (utah USA (park city ski area) I need to move to europe! And you guys are SO respectful of police here and I it's amazing! Good for u guys! Wish it was the same here in the US!
If you want to ride a bike in Switzerland you have to know where you can ride like a maniac and where not. The main passes have speed controls often. Hit them during odd hours like early in the morning or atleast not during the summer holidays.
Swiss tunnels are a BIG no no. Entrances and exits of tunnels are generally where cameras are located so any tunnel long or short you stick to the speed. They also set up big old cameras on tripods pointing both directions on known ripping spots. If you want a safety net, get a radar detector and hide it if you're stopped.
Great video guys. You’ve really captured your fans hearts with this video. Very engaging and we feel your pain. Look forward to the rest of this series.
I'm from Italy and we know how bad it is to go to Switzerland, that's why we avoid it and it's not just the cops, even other swiss bikers I've met are among the most unfunny people ever, telling us to slow down even when we were doing 60km\h, they're crazy. Joke's on them tho, less people are gonna go there and spend their money.
Went there last year loved it ,If id seen this first I would be to paranoid and not had fun, I won't be going back, you guys have a top quality channel
Oh how I love Switzerland (nah just kidding). There's plenty of gorgeous other places to ride in the Alps: northern Italy, Austria, France, southern Germany
And I thought Australian laws were tough... that sum of money made my eyes water. Ah well at least it didn’t get impounded and you guys made it to Mugello!
was literally considering next year's bike trip to Europe this week - was inspired by the B500 then thinking Switzerland. Glad I watched, I won't be going to Switzerland now, though I'm sure they're probably fine with that
Absolutely fine with that, thank you for not endangering other drivers on the road in my country. If you can stick to our laws or visit using public transport, you're very welcome though.
Swiss police will chase you down for a speeding fine even if you are outta the country. I'm surprised they don't issue noise fines too. I got so many dirty looks when I was passing through on my rsv mille XD and that yoke was still running its stock exhaust it was just an order of magnitude louder than anything else on the road
Eoin Kenny they do issue fines for too much noise. If you take out the db killer you will get a fine and you are not alloud to continue riding until its put back in
They are also debating noise cameras aswell. That would be cameras with a mic and if you would be louder as allowed you would be fined. But thats just in the talks at this moment.
This is why I avoided Switzerland (on principle) last time I was in Europe...too many horror stories of people being ripped off with ridiculous speeding / crossing white line fines. stunningly beautiful country run by officious twats. Such a shame it pissed on your day. Still, at least the police were polite about it..!!
Yup, it's bullshit nanny state ballbaggery. They like to stay neutral except when fucking over drivers, that's where they shine. Go to Italy and Germany, their scenery and rides are fantastic.
They are the nicest Police force. They sometimes trick you into thinking its good to get a fine because you are paying them for being so damn polite and nice!
Switzerland is definitely off the list, guess that leaves Germany, France and Spain if I want to take a bike trip to Europe, certainly not going to visit Italy until their neo-Fascist shitshow of a government is voted out.
Im jealous watching through a monitor, i cant imagine what it feels like to have started riding, gotten the fine, banned, and then having to sit through it and watch everyone else... that blows
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Chris is so commited, 144 km/h..and it with 44..lol
26.30 Lovin it mate best tv ive seen all year....Snake skin boots and ducati aftershave ,walking down the catwalk hahaha very italian !!! Absolutely bloody brilliant !!! Thankyou so much you made my day with this...Im saviing up to get a yam r6 in a few months....cant bloody wait...Im not gay......But them police need Einen size 13 boot banana slamming right up their boot
@@jessejames2645 they have john up their jack.
We'll be flagging you soon enough
Ha ha dry your eyes ffs
I was "caught" speeding in Italy fourteen years ago on my R1, on the autostrada north of Naples I flew past an Alfa Romeo just realising it was a cop car as I passed it, I of course slowed way down only for the Alfa to pull level and the cop in the passenger seat gave me the international sign to wind it on, I duly obliged. on that trip I found the Italian cops love bikes and only ever stopped me to have a look at the bike and some even showed me pictures of their own bikes, a real bike and biker loving country!
I’m not to sure that would necessarily happen in the northern regions in Italy
@@finished6553 You're absolutely right about that as I got booked for speeding just outside Genoa, it's like the north and south of Italy are two different countries.
*ALFA
What a bullshitter. The Italian police will screw you out if every penny you have. They're utterly corrupt.
@@530siddhant thankyou for saying it before me 🤣
I remember Jeremy clarkson saying that Switzerland hates speed and fun.
Camhin1 Yes, TVR banned, AK47 legal. Go figure.
Jeremy is right... im from switzerland and it is exactly like he said😏 but we have the french vogueses and german black forest right next to us😁
They love illegals though, they figure their safer than speeding ...lol
I was thinking of that very thing.
Same here, but I still didn't think it was THAT bad. Fuck ever going to Switzerland. I'll just hit all the countries around it.
My girlfriend is getting jealous because i dont look at her the way these two look at each other
LOL(worthless YT upvote for you).
It is brokeback mountain on bikes instead of horses in the Swiss Alps!!
@MAKSTR how did you know?
@MAKSTR thats a very retarded sentence 👍
Just an information.
In Russia you'd get from 12 to 17 pounds fee for this speeding.
Jet00CBR brb moving to Russia
In Russia they pay you
Next BBB would be Ural bikes in Russia.
In Russia they fine you for not speeding. In Russia the speeders fine the police.
Good luck driving a bike on Russian roads. #russianroulette
Incarcerated Chris: "What did you do?"
Swiss inmate: "Oh, I sliced cheese incorrectly......."
Still laughing a week later.
LOL! "We couldnt get your speed on the camera"... "Oooh... Sweet!"
At least you won the mpg challenge Chris, must haveat least 3/4 of a tank left. Love it👍
Fabulous video as ever and really feel for you guys picking up that mahoosive fine - you have however done the travelling biking fraternity a huge favour in drawing attention to this, so although it won't make you feel any better, thanks for highlighting the punitive fines in Switzerland......take it easy out there folks!
TheMissendenFlyer You didn't start your post with "Hi Kids!".
Holy shit!!!
Way to take one for the team.
Gets fined 4000 Swiss francs in Switzerland then go to italy and after 4 beers tries to win their money back with 89 euros: priceless
I am so so glad I discovered 44 Teeth just a few weeks ago (I am WAY behind!!). Absolute ultimate bike bloke viewing. The adventures, the racing, the bantastic chat...bloody love it. All of it. And I'm never eating Toblerone again.
4000!!!! OUCH, that’s one country off the list....
Karl Dawson I think you can have fun just watch your speed.
Chris Gray watch my speed? I’d not see Switzerland I’d be watching it that much
Pretty much.
Karl Dawson Absolutely true as well. My memory of the place is a speed dial.
Luckily I'm old and don't speed any more. Much. LOL Still wondering how they got his 144 km/h speed. Traps? Cameras?
guys, I could just feel the whole atmosphere of this video. I live in Switzerland and am currently waiting for my 2000-3000 CHF Speeding fine to come in the mail. I'm a 22y/0 student and paid about 3200 for the bike that I used to speed. I took a shot of (cheap) whiskey with you in front of my PC! Lots of love for this series, cheers guys!
I have seen what a criminal racket the govt has set up. Very well organised and ready to converge on any unsuspecting victim to demand fines that are 20 times what should ever be assessed AND DEMAND THEM PAID ON THE SPOT
In thailand speeding ticket is maybe 10€
@@megapet777 The average revenue here is around 5000 USD, not 800... But yep its still very punitive. I think tickets should be a % of your income and not a defined price
@@azypk yeah that ticket price is just insane. Kills the whole mood of motorcycling in that country. If I ever visit Switzerland, I definitely won't be riding there.
@@megapet777I'm going to Thailand 🤣
Well jokes on them as you've probably just saved thousands of bikers getting done in Switzerland and cost the country tens of, if not hundreds of thousands in future fines, so fckem.
Farkin right mate and a shit load loss in toblerone sales too!!!
Yeah people. Dont come to swotzerland. They just want money. I recommend germany better law. The fines are okay not like switzerland the rip you off. Or go to Austria it is almost the same shit with the mountains just cheaper in any way.
@@paganizonda1000ps Germany seems like the perfect place, a solution to the issues.
The final solution.
Dont drive fast in switzerland if you Cant afford the fines… or dont get busted. If you drive 64 kmh over the Limit you shouldnt be surprised abouit a hefty fine. a few kmh more and your bikes would have been confiscated
@@Zonkobel Or....just dont go to swizerland, There's fuck all else to go there for anyway.
It's great to see Bill Bailey & David Walliams out together, enjoying themselves on their scooters ...
Gutted for you Baron Von Bell End :-( Love Swiss roads, beautiful country, absolute C U Next Tuesday rules and Police! Big group of us got done last year for using low grade walkie talkies, 1000 swiss francs each... Never going back to Switzerland again! Love your work lads
maybe next BBB should be 125s, no more speeding fines :D
A remake of RS125 2T vs RC125 but somewhere in Europe, or all England north to south
GROMS!
80kph is about 50mph. Even my beat up, old YBR can manage more than that whilst carrying my fat carcass around on it.
They need to be two strokes so that there's enough unreliability to make it interesting
My kmx 125 could do the same speed Chris was doing LOL
Swiss jib jobs, loving the series gents 👌
Amazing! Production quality is so high now.
It's about to take a huge hit after they have to sell their cameras to afford the return trip.
This video made me very sad because it just goes to prove what I have suspected for some years - I can no longer really visit the Alps on my own 999. I've done all the passes, several of them many times. I once did 12 of them in one day on an 851. But although I live in Switzerland, I just haven't dared to head out there for some time because I live in fear of something like this happening. You cannot ride an 999 legally in Switzerland. It can't be done. If you tried you'd have much more fun taking the train. Ever since they changed the law in 2012 or 2013 it has been the death knell for sports biking in this country, a place that was once the world mecca for biking. Very, very sad.
Oh boo hoo! You can't speed in Switzerland. You poor victim.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 if you spend your motorcycling life at 50 mph you’d be better off selling your bike, assuming you’re old enough to own one, and buying a 50cc scooter instead. Or do I suspect an HD rider here? Then sure, no doubt 50mph suits you fine. But why would you want to waste your time looking at 44Teeth videos?
@@gliddofglood by the sounds of it hes probs 12 and doesnt ride for shit. I was 2mph from going to court when I got caught lol
Reading a few of the comments below. The problem is they weren't riding like idiots, they are two experienced motorcyclists and as he said it's just a quick squirt of throttle to go "x2". Didn't see anything over the top in their riding. I am a retired traffic cop from Ireland and would have been very reluctant to enforce that rate of punishment, fortunately we were allowed to think for ourselves and use our discretion, sometimes a word of advice pointing out what could happen is appropriate, log them on the system has having received a warning and then play it by ear if they're caught again.
Here in Switzerland I'm afraid if you get stopped by the police you are either a) going to get fined or b) going to prison. End of. The police are given no training in discretion. It is also illegal to have dash cams and the like as it is an infringement of the privacy laws. So they were very lucky they didn't have all their camera gear confiscated. This also applies to speed camera detectors and speed camera apps on your navi system. As mentioned elsewhere in the replies most bikers here "scout the course" and keep an eye open for the oncoming bikes who will always let you know if something is coming up: Having said all of that Switzerland is still a great place to do bike tours, but if you want speed you have to go to Germany.
They were doing twice the speed limit ffs ... they WERE riding like idiots.
@@3storiesUp Harley or trike rider ! Lol
@@diablo5744 lmao they know how to stick out like a sore thumb don't they.
i guess the guy pointing at you was telling you to slow down...
138 km/h is bad enough, but anything over 140 km/h in an 80-zone (for us swiss anyway, not sure about foreigners) will mean that your bike gets impounded and auctioned off with all the profit going to the state, while you will get your licence suspended for a minimum of 2 years and a possible prison sentence.
Norway is the same lol, pretty insane when you think about it.
I'm 99% certain it was just a wave to a fellow biker, considering they weren't speeding at that point.
Thats ridiculous, you lads should do a coo and blockade the state royal navy on nepoleon style, and start a manx style government, and you will be the best country in mainland Europe for the first time since the war. Do it.
Russia had the Bolshevik revolution, you need the bikervictor revolution, get you're clock maker ocd perfectionists building bikes and racing them and take over the world, bring bikes bake to Europe and leave Japanese bikes behind.
Perfect plan. And leave the eu so they don't strangle your new industry with silly rules.
Jobs a good'un.
Yes, Chris was "lucky" that he doesn't live here. I got fined 900 Swiss Francs for doing 20 over in the 80 millimetres a year zone. The only way to get around it is to ride the route slowly first, then properly the way back. And watch other bikers' hand signals and give your own.
that's just stupid lol I bet there are basically the same amount of accidents in switzerland
Wow that's just insane, never been not going now!!
Snap
I think you would be in trouble if you went chopsy, unless you went on your cow skinned ped.
Had egg n chips in the shadow of the Eiger, £20... nonsense. It's pretty but hostile.
haha :-)
Yeah aint going there. F8ck em.
AUD$5700 FINE!!!!! WHAT!!!!!????
It's based on income. Fagan would've gotten a lower ticket (assuming he makes less).
t41l socialism suck so
If he would have gone over 60kph over the limit, its even more serious, swiss people have gone to jail for it..
Europe
Based on income you say? Sweet $50 for me then
Sometimes I come back and watch this video to remind myself that my day isn't going as badly as it could be.
I was informed of the harsh penalties of speeding in Switzerland before I got there. The lesson for me was, enjoy the riding in France, enjoy riding in Germany, and then just relax, bimble and enjoy the stunning views of Switzerland. Have to say, the roads & the views were so awesome, I loved just taking it easy and soaking it all in and would defo ride there again in a heartbeat.
this guy gets it
Love 44T and have always wanted a hoodie and sticker, finally ordered the limited gold pullover !
nice bud 👍
Bwhahah ha ha ha!
Weed is legal in Canada?
@@finished6553 yes weed is legal here. You can order it online and it’ll be shipped at your door.
Ommfg I'm in tears absolutely gutting myself that "boot banana" ad was the funniest shit I've seen in a long time made my day serious I laughed for 5 minutes and had to watch it like 3 times. That was the best ever.
This is the best series I have ever seen guys. You need much more Media Coverage. I was watching BVG for years and I never knew about this channel. Every UK biker (and beyond) should be watching this. This material is so good it should have 000000000's of comments.
It's really is brilliant! Epic editing and a real comedy duo 😆
The thing that pisses me off is people who break in houses and beat up old ladies get less of a fine!
Thank you for another awesome episode, despite the mishaps. I somewhat feel your frustration as Switzerland is a beautiful yet dangerous animal to handle. I grew up in Italy but lived in Leicestershire for many years and now in Switzerland, there is a certain period needed to adjust to the fact that speed limits are really enforced and its a big risk; with that being said there is a massive biking community in Switzerland and most of them are ready to take that risk, its a part of the life here and I somewhat respect them for it (as you may have noticed people still driving the shit out of those bikes in CH). Being an avid track day goer I would say it is not an issue, in fact probably nicer than being in the UK; in Switerland you are at the center of some of best European tracks and they are all accessible, but I would visit the UK if I wanted to ride on a damp bumpy track. Also you guys rode from UK to do Mugello, that is a trek!! Have fun and looking forward to the next one!!!
Thing is, you can't do track days in Switzerland because there none. Everyone knows bikers go above the limit, but the lengths one has to go to avoid being caught is ridiculous. It usually means slow one way, then fast back along the same route. Fortunately, if the route is popular with bikers, others will warn you.
Have just bought my 44teeth hoodie because I love you two und of course your channel so much, please keep on going even with a 4k fine
Robert Hagmann have just done the same
You couldn't bribe the cops with a boot banana or two?
They would probably have been put on death row for that!
Was gonna upvote you but you had 69 votes, so I took it off again. Here, have a thumbs up 👍 instead.
The cop slipped al a boot a banana, that’s how he got off speeding
never been and after watching this will never go.
or you could ride normally, enjoy the scenery and corners and don´t go basically double the speed limit
Went once. Never again. The people are the dullest on the planet and everything is way over priced. Remember the fuckers stayed neutral in WW2 and hid the Nazis money. Wankers.
eberbacher007 nah they coppers were out to make money nothing else nothing to do with saftey 100 euros for being 2 kmh over the limit for the van that is extreme do they want us watch the speedo and fuck whats infront of us and ride off the side of the road down a big cliff?
@@eberbacher007 fuck that
well nothing forces you to go 99km/h so that every slight twist of the throttle brings you to 110.
Just drive 90-95 and you have a safety margin.
😂 I live in Switzerland since ten years and finally I now have a video to explain to my mates why I ride a 50cc scooter now. The speed limits are so crazy that even with a 50 cc scooter you have to pay attention ...
Thanks Chris!
Feeling much better after my 500 eur fine for 100kph over in Portugal! Blessed sunny country
Man I live in Switzerland, we bikers here live in consant fear of speed traps... Hope everything goes fine for you two !
how much is the fine for hiding your number plate?
No pun intended?
Me too. The constant checking out for speed traps is fucking ridiculous.
I feel your pain!
I head over the border into France or Italy as soon as possible
Ride a sachs 503, problem solved!
You have to be aware when visiting Switzerland. I was riding with RJ recently and I'm surprised we both kept our licenses. If you get a fine letter sent to outside CH and won't pay your fine, return to CH and get stopped at the border, you get chucked in jail. Two days for doing a white line to precise.
Anyway, very well made video as always!
Yeah, was a bit worried when I saw RJs video on his bike in Switzerland. Lovely country, would be nicer without the laws, though.
@@disekjoumoer We like our laws though. Without them and the police enforcing it our country would be another european shithole.
@@lionatwork8763 What a load of bollocks. Yeah, if it wasn't for ridiculous speeding fines Switzerland would be a dystopian hellhole
@phil tonic what do you mean, "if you get a fine sent to outside CH"? Also, doing a white line to precision?
@@dztrbdgod your fine will be sent to your home country. If you don't pay the fine, you will be flagged in Switzerland. At reentry into Switzerland you will have to face the fine... In prison days. Which for doing a solid white line is 400 Franks or two days in prison.
4000 Swiss Franc = 3,065 GBP = $4,029 USD, 144 kmph = 89 mph, 80 kmph = 50 mph
you've must been a crack in math when you where on school ! :D
Ducati OlandaClub ?
Couple of spoiled brats, fuck them!
Why on earth would the speed limit on that road only be 50 mph? Oh, the fine money. Got it...
@@MegaTechpc probably because it's a single carriageway
In Canada (at least in Ontario) for that speeding fine you're looking at $2,000 to $10,000, demerit points, bike confiscated, license suspension and jail time. Depends on where it happens, always worse in urban or construction areas. Police have a lot of room to decide the size and extent of the punishment. The biggest speeding fine on road around these parts was in Alberta, $12,000 to a biker going 264km/h. So even though it sucks you were fined, be glad it was just that, it could've been much worse as you said.
Here in Australia [Victoria] that would've been an instant license suspension, court date, and impounded vehicle (anything 45 km/h over the limit fall under hoon laws)
Same here in QLD, can you imagine doing 144kph here, the police would probably kick the shit out of you at the same time! I fcuking hate the approach to speed here, especially given the lack of vehicles and stunning driving roads around where I live in the Samford Valley.
@@D13-r9w just have to risk it over mt glorious 😉
Australia is the worst place in the world for riding a bike
That’s mental for a bunch of criminals.
Wrong bikes and driving style for Der Schweiz. I had to downsize from my vtr1000f to a 125 pantheon scooter and was still driving everyday with the possibility of jail if i was caught. Bring your embezzled money and your criminal self, but don't dare break the speed limit. True story.
die Schweiz
@@adderladders Wohin fliegst du? In die Schweiz." - correct :)
in die Schweiz -> to Switzerland = Nominative or Accusative Case
"Wo bist du? In der Schweiz." - correct also ;)
in der Schweitz -> in Switzerland = Genitive or Dative Case
The role of "Schweiz" is exactly the same in both examples. The only difference is the article because of the different cases.
You've just explained why "for Der Schweiz" is incorrect.
@@adderladders Exactly, I had to check it out. I lived there for 16 years, i should really know better.
@@pauloshea3741 if you think CH is about "embezzled money" and "criminals" i'm glad we're rid of you :)
The Swiss police got you! It‘s a fine business model... but it does spoil the fun (for some). I was just surprised that you were not informed about how stringently speed limits are enforced in Switzerland.
Wasn't Switzerland where speed traps hidden in crash barriers were invented so they can catch more "speeders"?
Agreed, I thought it was well known about the cameras. Just keep it manageable on the speed front
I bet Steve McQueen is glad he never made it over that fence now imagine his fine!!!. Anyhoo great vid now I am off Vlogging late because of your awesomanage..ggges.
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BigBlueTriumph ahahhaah!!!! You remember that too?!! 😜😁😃
Gents this is solid stuff. I’d pay for episodes of this quality, i think this is your best work yet, Bravo!
An old neighbour of ours got done for “international harp smuggling” when crossing from France to Switzerland. No paperwork apparently whilst he was off to deliver instruments to a concert in Geneva.... :).
The equivalent fine for speeding in Illinois is £121
We just get a flash of the lights from the cops then we give 'em a nod then back off a bit
@@Al-of3zp That's cool, when ours pull us over for speeding they give off the impression that they're angry that they're not allowed to sodomize us with their nightsticks.
You guys are paying fines with English pound? In the US? Strange
Keep an eye out for the cops then when you go down that one road in Illinois that has a bend in it
Clive you've Obviosly never been to the southern half of illinois
I live in switzerland amd i paid 1000 swissfrancs just for driving in the 50 zone 71kmh -5 tolenace= 16 kmh too much for 1000 francs. Guys you can easly get in to Jail for a little bit speeding.
They were very polite about the speeding to be fair, no ego bull.
If they weren't polite, they'd have "incidents". They used to be real cunts when I first got here 30 years ago, but someone twigged that provoking someone you're already buttraping is not the way to live a long happy life. People used to get so freaked out there was even one guy who blew speed cameras up.
Exactly my thoughts, nicest cops I have heard/seen.
coppers are normally nice here in CH.
In the US, he would've been dragged off his bike and probably tased and/or beaten, then taken to jail and charged with "resisting arrest".
no shit, they are taking 4k lol
We know this problem here in Switzerland... Altough it's incredibly beautiful to ride, we mainly go to the BlackForest in Germany, since you can ride 100km/h on street roads - at least. Good they did not see you filming yourself, since that's also extremely expensive, too. I had to pay CHF 700 for that :(
Filming yourself? What does that mean? You can film others but not yourself?
i meant the filming with the mobile device while driving a car... ;)
what? does it mean recording with a helmet camera is illegal in Switzerland? jesus christ...I've done it so many times not even realizing what I was risking XD
It’s a grey area, you can use dashcams because it records over old footage and it respects the privacy.
Diffusing videos with no blurred plates/faces is a bit more of an issue though.
I was actually touring in Switzerland last month and amazed by the numbers of road works that were actually manned and working in progress. Now that explains why they could afford it and their workers look so keen with their jobs.
Is this the same country that has people skiing, sliding on tea tray, ski jumping, at speeds of 80mph with only a bicycle helmet for protection, with hundreds of people badly injured every year!!!
earle bacciochi Yep, and bars in the middle of the slopes so you can be proper drunk. While running people over with your skis.
Surely they should be nicked for that then, ime suprised the national speed limit doesn't apply to the human body not just vehicles, and they'll have planes trying not to go over 80.9 kph and crashing because of it, so a total ban on air travel in 50 years.
Ironic though, motorsport is banned because of 1955 le mans but now its safer than skiing which they are happy to allow.
Makes me think of Michael Schumacher. He raced in F1 for almost two decades and came out unscathed, but a skiing accident destroyed his life.
Government are run by average joe they don't have any logic.
Apparently there’s no cap to the fines either.. Above 30km/h too fast (outside urban areas) it’s income dependent.. A Swedish dude did 300km/h in an SLS AMG, got a 720.000 Euro fine.. let that sink in for a minute.
I never understand people speeding in Switzerland, the risk is just too silly.
How do they find out your income? Especially if you're from overseas
That I don't know, but how it works is that they determine an amount between 1 and 3000 Swiss Francs (income determines this) and that amount is multiplied by a factor that is calculated by your infraction. Probably Swiss authorities will have contact with your local authorities and possibly tax office.. I wouldn't know about that.
edit: jail is also a possibility... yes, also for speeding. I'd probably take the French/Monaco route to Italy next time .. ;)
I guess they will ask for some form of tax statement proving your income and if you can´t deliver that or they don´t believe you they will do "professional estimation" aka guessing
720.000 euro fine??? Jesus H Christ 😭
Same here in Finland. You get fined by your tax information. You get "day fines" with minimum 6€/Day and multiplied depending on how fast you were going. And over 50km/h it's court!
@22:20 so nice to hear you fellas shouting "we are home " .. welcome to Italy!!
Thats tough, but after Top Gear announced that the Swiss have zero tolerance to speeding I though everyone knew to avoid their costly country.
Just bought some 44Teeth merch to help offset the Swiss fine.
Ffs £3k fine !!!! Imagine being on ur tod and having to take a wonga loan out and camp at side of road for 3 months till ban was up 😂😂😂.... joking aside that could of ended a lot worse ... top vid 👍
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hoodie and sticker ordered, you two are legends, I'm doing the euro millions Friday and when I win, will fund whatever battles you like, will pay your speeding fines, but you'll have to suck your own way out of jail i'm afraid, have to draw the line somewhere
Went there years ago on a Hayabusa. Didn't know about the fines. Got away with it. Not going to go back to risk it again after watching this.
Good! Switzerland can do without people like you.
13:08 It is some level of comedy gold watching you talk about the bad speeding ticket and hearing someone absolutely gunning it in the background. :D
I live in switzerland and really know how nice grimsel, furk and Sustenpass are and really tempting. But you allways have to check your speed in those areas, Police are all over the place there and very strickt.... good luck on your trip
Love the Video thumbs UP
how is the police stance on aftermarket exhaust pipes , can you ride with terminal and okra's or are they as repressive towards those as well?
Aftermakert exhaust are usually not a problem, if you have a E-Nr. on the exhaust (street leagle) and exhaust papers for the bike. But if they want the can still messure the db and if its too loud you could get a ticket. Akra, Termi, Yoshi etc. are mostly fine (street legal version) not race exhaust..
if its street legal with papers (CH) they will and cant do anything. But if you ride around with race fits, baffle out etc they will messup your day fo sure.
well thats suisse off my list as well then , thx for the reply
your welcome
That speeding fine cost as much as a used motorcycle
Hell, it costs more than some NEW motorcycles.
Maybe their thinking is that if you sell it, you can pay the fine. they were looking to just do an outright ban on motorcycles a over a decade ago but doing it this way ensures plenty of profit through tourism, speeding fines, impounding and auctioning off the motorcycles all the while discouraging their use by the locals. The swiss government are absolute scum.
Love this channel - as a tiny contribution to your rather large fine I've bought a 44T sticker
me 2
Back in the mid 1980s I was riding a GSX1100 around France. I was running an open Harris pipe which the French seemed to love. I thought it'd be nice to visit Switzerland but I got stopped at the border because of my pipe and was denied entry.
That’s funny how people always think they sound soooo cool but everyone thinks of them as a stupid twats. 😂 Ah, and you damage your ears too…😂
Had a similar thing happen to me and 2 friends in Holland in 2015 got a on the spot ban and had to get recovered out of the country into Belgium, we just ignored the letters back home that came for the court summons, needless to say ive not been back to holland :)
In solidarity, I'm never eating a fuggin' Toblerone ever again either!! ;)
What about a Swiss 🍥 roll! 😂
So Switzerland has banned racing and hates speeding ever since the 1955 Le Mans disaster, which was caused by Mercedes Benz. Ironically Chris thanks Mercedes for saving his bacon, what a circle.
i'm surprised they didn't fine you for the "non standard" doll in the front or the helmet cam ;o|
"So I'll just drink water.......and eat.........grass......" fully cracked me up. Sorry about the shitty experience. I just brought my RSV4 RF back from Vancouver, where the roads are absolutely awesome towards Whistler, to Saskatchewan, where the roads are absolute shit, for this very reason. At least I can wind out the bike..........and wear the centre of the tire out.............but no cops lurking around every corner.........there are no corners.......... :(
MY LORD I miss my 999R!!!! Miss the open dry clutch! You guys are amazing! As an American living in a gorgeous place (utah USA (park city ski area) I need to move to europe! And you guys are SO respectful of police here and I it's amazing! Good for u guys! Wish it was the same here in the US!
Well Baron definitely has the fastest bike!
What makes me laugh, is they are so moral yet they allow FIFA to operate there! Hypocrisy at its finest.
There are plenty of other anomalies Switzerland are knee deep in.
If you want to ride a bike in Switzerland you have to know where you can ride like a maniac and where not. The main passes have speed controls often. Hit them during odd hours like early in the morning or atleast not during the summer holidays.
They were travelling to Italy so you suggest they stay at the border then sneak through in the early hours? 😂
Ian Stevenson yes but they were on the B500 through Germany, they’ll know the next time to take s route passing through hitlers bank
58kph over the limit wouldn't go over too well in Finland either :D
Swiss tunnels are a BIG no no. Entrances and exits of tunnels are generally where cameras are located so any tunnel long or short you stick to the speed. They also set up big old cameras on tripods pointing both directions on known ripping spots. If you want a safety net, get a radar detector and hide it if you're stopped.
Great video guys. You’ve really captured your fans hearts with this video. Very engaging and we feel your pain. Look forward to the rest of this series.
Caught doing 90 in a 50 is bad until you look at the fucking road and realize it should be an 80 anyway
Right, fresh mug of tea made and the phone is off - no fu€&er is going to annoy me for the next half hour. (And work can go fu€& itself too!). ;)
“If you make a movie pls turn off” 😂😂😂
The only 30min long vid I’d watch on UA-cam - you guys are bloody awesome. I’m sure you work hard but you seem to be living the dream.
Man what a blast I'm having watching all these videos bro what a great work man pays for the great content
I'm from Italy and we know how bad it is to go to Switzerland, that's why we avoid it and it's not just the cops, even other swiss bikers I've met are among the most unfunny people ever, telling us to slow down even when we were doing 60km\h, they're crazy. Joke's on them tho, less people are gonna go there and spend their money.
I thought Victoria was the world centre for sanctimonious fun police but I was wrong. Have just crossed Suisse off my list of places to ride through.
Good don't need scum riding true who want to put people's lives at risk.
To be fair the Swiss police have very little to do. They have to over react otherwise they'd have no reason to be.
Truth. They should hang out in Little Rock where I live for a day.
Very true
Went there last year loved it ,If id seen this first I would be to paranoid and not had fun, I won't be going back, you guys have a top quality channel
Just showed this to my wife, she cracked up.
Best 30 min bike show ever.
4K fine and 2 km/h away from jail time...........OMFG!
Lovin the boot banana.
Lovin this excellent series. Production is second to none.
Oh how I love Switzerland (nah just kidding). There's plenty of gorgeous other places to ride in the Alps: northern Italy, Austria, France, southern Germany
And I thought Australian laws were tough... that sum of money made my eyes water. Ah well at least it didn’t get impounded and you guys made it to Mugello!
Be glad you where not in Finland guys, my buddy got 120 000 Euro in fines and 6 months banned, and he was caught at 150km/h in a 100 zone...
I do not know how you guys don't have atleast a million subscribers.
was literally considering next year's bike trip to Europe this week - was inspired by the B500 then thinking Switzerland. Glad I watched, I won't be going to Switzerland now, though I'm sure they're probably fine with that
Absolutely fine with that, thank you for not endangering other drivers on the road in my country.
If you can stick to our laws or visit using public transport, you're very welcome though.
When you just sit down to snack on a pastie and this pops up oooo treat me.
yes, just made a coffee and then this pops up - WINNERRR!
SAME!!
26:30 there are the jackets!😂😂 I remember this episode: my first introduction with 44teeth, still loving it!!!
That fine made me sick to my stomach 🤢
Ban the bloody Toblerone
Swiss police will chase you down for a speeding fine even if you are outta the country.
I'm surprised they don't issue noise fines too. I got so many dirty looks when I was passing through on my rsv mille XD and that yoke was still running its stock exhaust it was just an order of magnitude louder than anything else on the road
Eoin Kenny they do issue fines for too much noise. If you take out the db killer you will get a fine and you are not alloud to continue riding until its put back in
They are also debating noise cameras aswell. That would be cameras with a mic and if you would be louder as allowed you would be fined. But thats just in the talks at this moment.
This is why I avoided Switzerland (on principle) last time I was in Europe...too many horror stories of people being ripped off with ridiculous speeding / crossing white line fines. stunningly beautiful country run by officious twats. Such a shame it pissed on your day. Still, at least the police were polite about it..!!
Yup, it's bullshit nanny state ballbaggery. They like to stay neutral except when fucking over drivers, that's where they shine. Go to Italy and Germany, their scenery and rides are fantastic.
They are the nicest Police force. They sometimes trick you into thinking its good to get a fine because you are paying them for being so damn polite and nice!
Switzerland is definitely off the list, guess that leaves Germany, France and Spain if I want to take a bike trip to Europe, certainly not going to visit Italy until their neo-Fascist shitshow of a government is voted out.
@@mrvwbug4423 I hate to break it to you, but if you do that much over the limit in most European countries youre going to have a bad time.
mrvwbug44, europe is going populist now. Didn't you know? You should probably stay in whatever liberal hell hole you come from.
HANDS DOWN my favourite BBB series AND favourite BBB episode. Looking forward to BBBB(enidorm) - keep up the good work lads
Im jealous watching through a monitor, i cant imagine what it feels like to have started riding, gotten the fine, banned, and then having to sit through it and watch everyone else... that blows