The Tom & Jerry one is accurate because they apparently employed a classically trained pianist to play it for them so that they could get the animation 100% correct. Dedication to their art!
To be fair, just drawing the instruments is a pain in the ass and in most cases animators don't get enough time and money to learn how to animate them correctly.
I think In tv or cheaper animation it’s acceptable not to be perfect but when movies like sing that have big studios behind them and it’s literally about music it’s completely unacceptable to be that off
@@kai_yue A factor is also the passion that the staff has about the original material or the thing they're creating (if it's an original anime). A-1 is infamous for overworking it's staff and yet, Your Lie in April has probably the *best* piano and violin animation of the past decade, because the staff was extremely passionate about the manga and wanted to do the best job they could possibly make.
@@MarceloZ2 yep, that's also true. I think if it's a really great series, and the staffs/director really also love the project, they'd do their best. I think KyoAni's directors/writers are also really passionate about their projects, making almost, if not all, wholesome. Not to mention the OSTs. Violet Evergarden's movie OST album is 2 hours long. Imagine the budget and amount of work done for that
As an animator myself, I can tell you, 90% of the time it boils down to time and money. The other thing is that on television productions at least, animators often don't even have the final music to animate to. We often work with temporary music, and the final music tracks will be added in post production.
If it were _any other gimmick,_ I'd be bored of it within a week, but I like these videos because I enjoy learning the little intricacies for each instrument they show.
Imagine if someone was meant to animate a classical piece, but he actually animates a rick roll, so when someone makes a video on that scene, he gets rick rolled.
Someone probably already said this, but Pixar usually animates the playing of instruments correctly. For Coco they actually got the close up shots of Miguel playing the guitar right. 😃😄😊
9:31 as a musician myself, I love the shreds videos, I was laughing my hardest, apparently, UA-cam was so harsh to people that made those going as far as blocking their channels
Two anime Series that come to mind are "Your Lie In April" and "Kids on the Slope" both of these use rotoscoping on in the animations for the music sessions, they are apparently really accurate
@@bananawithaknife I hope so too because if not it's hilarious they HATE it when they see a animated character or characters not correctly playing the drums 🤣🤣
I hate it so much more in movies. It is not that hard to learn to play something basic, bring in a double for anything fancy. If you're using a crash and a ride like hats and a snare it's so obvious - that must be absolutely awful to listen to on set.
You know, it would’ve been funny if the animated artist made it specific to a piece of music on the piano, but they actually did the animation to play never gonna give you up, but did a different songs that when somebody debunked it, they would just play never gonna give you up to themself
KyoAni does one of the best instrument animations. Especially the series "Hibike! Euphonium". It's a full orchestra/marching band but! The details they put to animating every instrument always gives me goosebumps
Ok I’m just starting out in animation but I can definitely tell you that it’s really hard to animate an instrument correctly -For one it’s more excessive research if you don’t already know how to play the instrument -Then you of course want to get the timing right with the music and notes being played - AND on top of all that you want the animation to still look good and vibe well Yes it can be done but it makes the animation process for such a short scene, so much unnecessary longer
To be honest, all wrong versions played sounds perfectly ironically right. Take as example the 5:27 one, for example. It's exactly what a baby thinking he is cool af would sound like. Also everything in the simpsons
Great video, guys! It's awesome when the animators pay attention to detail so much that the playing is right, BUT no one - except for musicians and/or people who play that instrument - will notice if it's not accurate, so I can understand why studios don't usually bother.
"Why not just get it right?" I hope this was just a throwaway joke or just talking about that one clip because otherwise, I don't think Joel has any idea what getting right means in the context of animating instruments correctly. 👽 Edit: Okay, thank god, he acknowledges it later in the video.
I know its just a meme, but in reality... Who cares how its animated? The Tom and Jerry episode where his Southern uncle who pulls Toms whiskers come to visit, the fact that he plays basically nothing on his guitar, just makes it more fun.
drawing hands is difficult. There are a number of times I have drawn things inaccurately because I couldn't get hands to look right while also being accurate for the angles.
If I have to guess why some are partially accurate it's probably because they didn't want to hire a professional(budget limitation) to tell them the correct way to play whatever they are playing and so the animators were just watching videos(or for older animations they might've consulted friends who play the intstrument as a hobby) and since they aren't musicians they can't judge if they've made mistakes(didn't get the correct way to do it from the videos they watched). The original Tom & Jerry is the reason I like classical music. I'm sure a lot of people from that generation are the same.
In the Axel F one, I (as a reflex) said Ding ding right after the song. And then August said Ding ding at the exact same time! So we said Ding ding at the EXACT same time. Pretty cool 😂
In Soul they actually used a technique called motion capture. Where the actor is an actual piano player, and they motion captured his hands, so that the motions are directly put into the animation. Like they also do in video games.
In the stop motion classic film “Pinch Cliff grand-prix” there is a musical scene where al instruments in an ensemble was played 100% correct. The maker of this movie was a perfectionist and wanted musicians who watched this brilliant film to enjoy correct handling of the instruments 🎸 👍👍😎
If you want instruments to be animated correctly, there are two ways to go about it. 1) Rotoscoping. Have a musician play, and animators will film it. Then frame by frame the film will be traced over. 2) Motion Capture. Have a musician wear a motion capture suit and have the instrument marked with motion capture 'dots'.
YES I love watching the comparison videos!! Cracks me up every time. Oh my gosh and the amount of flutes I've seen just plum going the wrong way is abhorrable. 😂
Never Animated Correctly 👀 To an extent some instruments are. It can be tough to go frame by frame, usually its a surprise when some come out correct/accurate. Was Humourous & fun to watch, Keep it up & Stay Safe Guys 🎶 😎 👊
Chances are the two scenes were done by two different animators so one tried to do it right the other just tried to get the shot done, it could also be time constraints, to do it right might have taken a little extra time the animator could really spare
For soul they worked really hard on making the fingers moove and bend as they should, the tendons of the hands show as they do irl, and press the right keys as they should etc.
For Soul, the Pixar animators filmed Jon Batiste playing and used the videos to animate Jamie Foxx's character playing. That was the best way to do it IMHO. I enjoy all your videos, Roomie! I learn a lot.
One of my lifelong dreams is to animate someone in a movie playing never gonna give you up instead of their actual song. So the soundtrack movie would be playing, but if someone went through the trouble to figure out what the actual notes are, they will be Rick rolled. You’re welcome.
Man Monsters vs Aliens got it close XD, honestly I assume that there were kicks hidden in the Bad Guys scene, but the 4th notes from the hi hats I think somehow hits a lot different some reason, plus it somehow seems like the shark's playing the lofi hip hop pattern, like the drunk drumming it's called iirc
I know with Pixar and modern animations that are story driven, they are animating after the voices are recorded, but I wonder if a lot of animations are in progress before they even know what the music might be??? Or it is just animators who only have a general reference of this is the low end of the piano and this is the high end, I draw hands moving on keys.
As nobody seems to be talking about Vampire in the Garden I must say this, I ejoyed the anime, it was fine, and I found the music beautiful. I'm so glad they animated it properly!
One scene that's supposed to be 100% accurate is the music jam session in "Flåklypa Grand Prix", a Norwegian stop motion puppet picture from the mid 70ies.
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Just a lil fun fact: A lot of old cartoons were animated first and voices were added in after and had the match the characters mouth movements resulting in the exaggerated speech we've come to love in old cartoons. Not really relevant but still a groovy lil fact
I mean, the higher you go on the keyboard, the louder it is.... I mean, technically true. Higher notes are louder than lower notes ^^ (and that's exactly why decibel is such a bad unit)
It always bothers me how inaccurately guitars are portrayed in Soviet movies. Almost every song is dubbed by a professional musician, so most of the time the actor just does random stuff to the guitar neck in hopes that it looks like they're actually playing the guitar, it bothers me so much xD
7:34 That might be another reason that Disney Pixar get the animation right, rather than smaller children's TV shows. They have a bigger budget so can therefore get better animators to get it right.
The Tom and Jerry one, Cat Concerto, is one of my favorite cartoons. And one of my favorite classical music pieces, Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 by Liszt. It even won an Oscar.
The Tom & Jerry one is accurate because they apparently employed a classically trained pianist to play it for them so that they could get the animation 100% correct. Dedication to their art!
yes and they also won an oscar with that episode!! well deserved
@Don't read profile photo ok
Family guy also gets their instruments correctly
and Soul from pixar because they use motion capture for the hands . But no one beats Tom and Jerry
The Tom and Jerry clip definitely impressed me more than Soul.
“Instruments are NEVER animated correctly…”
We all know this was true before clicking the video
But then there’s also tom and jerry…
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besides Tom and Jerry
@@matthew5330 true👍
Tom and Jerry definitely did popularize Hungarian Rhapsody by introducing it to the wider public and that episode is famous for being accurate
Not all tom and jerry. Watch the last clip of this video. The clip was my video 🙂
To be fair, just drawing the instruments is a pain in the ass and in most cases animators don't get enough time and money to learn how to animate them correctly.
Agree
I think In tv or cheaper animation it’s acceptable not to be perfect but when movies like sing that have big studios behind them and it’s literally about music it’s completely unacceptable to be that off
Yeah, the only reason Kyoto Animation can have animes with extremely accurate details on instruments is because they pay their artists right
@@kai_yue A factor is also the passion that the staff has about the original material or the thing they're creating (if it's an original anime). A-1 is infamous for overworking it's staff and yet, Your Lie in April has probably the *best* piano and violin animation of the past decade, because the staff was extremely passionate about the manga and wanted to do the best job they could possibly make.
@@MarceloZ2 yep, that's also true. I think if it's a really great series, and the staffs/director really also love the project, they'd do their best. I think KyoAni's directors/writers are also really passionate about their projects, making almost, if not all, wholesome. Not to mention the OSTs. Violet Evergarden's movie OST album is 2 hours long. Imagine the budget and amount of work done for that
As an animator myself, I can tell you, 90% of the time it boils down to time and money. The other thing is that on television productions at least, animators often don't even have the final music to animate to. We often work with temporary music, and the final music tracks will be added in post production.
Thanks for the compliments on my hands xD
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1y ago but 1 reply?
Oh my lord 75 likes only?
No way amosdoll
For the movie Soul they used Jon Batiste's hand motions and he's the one really playing, there's great extras on D+ showing them recording him.
If it were _any other gimmick,_ I'd be bored of it within a week, but I like these videos because I enjoy learning the little intricacies for each instrument they show.
8:59 - AHHHH, THE NOSTALGIA!!!! 🕺🏼👏🏻🤭✨
Wow I completely forgot about this! I remember this from Scooby doo
@@ItzTheEpicDogeRightttt!!
Imagine if someone was meant to animate a classical piece, but he actually animates a rick roll, so when someone makes a video on that scene, he gets rick rolled.
Officer? I'd like to make a report on an individual too dangerous to keep living in society...
i need this lmao
@@MarceloZ2 Again?! Third time's the charm I guess…
This would be amazing
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING OMFG!!! 🤯🤯🤯
10:17 damn thats some of the coolest sounding trumpet solo ive ever heard :)
Thank You, That was me! 🙂
@@AwesomeBoysJPTV i didnt know it was possible to slide like that :)
Someone probably already said this, but Pixar usually animates the playing of instruments correctly. For Coco they actually got the close up shots of Miguel playing the guitar right. 😃😄😊
5:23 Soul is probably the most musically accurate. Even the TROMBONES are animated right.
Soul is a musical movie that's why they perfected it in the animations
9:31 as a musician myself, I love the shreds videos, I was laughing my hardest, apparently, UA-cam was so harsh to people that made those going as far as blocking their channels
Two anime Series that come to mind are "Your Lie In April" and "Kids on the Slope" both of these use rotoscoping on in the animations for the music sessions, they are apparently really accurate
Joel, please save the past broadcasts on Twitch, so people who weren't there live could see them. Thanks!
He shares them on Patreon. I don't think he can on Twitch because of copyright.
As a drummer, I HATE it when I see animated drums and they aren’t playing them right. Finally someone sees my pain.
As an animator, I hope that's an exaggeration.
@@bananawithaknife I hope so too because if not it's hilarious they HATE it when they see a animated character or characters not correctly playing the drums 🤣🤣
Look up stuff from an anime called "Kids on the Slope". Lots of good drummer animations there.
I hate it so much more in movies. It is not that hard to learn to play something basic, bring in a double for anything fancy.
If you're using a crash and a ride like hats and a snare it's so obvious - that must be absolutely awful to listen to on set.
You’re not an animator, you don’t see their pain.
You know, it would’ve been funny if the animated artist made it specific to a piece of music on the piano, but they actually did the animation to play never gonna give you up, but did a different songs that when somebody debunked it, they would just play never gonna give you up to themself
KyoAni does one of the best instrument animations. Especially the series "Hibike! Euphonium". It's a full orchestra/marching band but! The details they put to animating every instrument always gives me goosebumps
came here to say this.
7:09 we did that "Ting-Ting " or whatever together bro . Lol that was fun
Joel is the king of buying expensive chairs and never using them
Joel isn't a foot guy...but maybe he's a hand guy? 😆
😳
9:04 I caught flashbacks here too! I've watched it as well as a kid, some part of my memory unlocked!!
Ok I’m just starting out in animation but I can definitely tell you that it’s really hard to animate an instrument correctly
-For one it’s more excessive research if you don’t already know how to play the instrument
-Then you of course want to get the timing right with the music and notes being played
- AND on top of all that you want the animation to still look good and vibe well
Yes it can be done but it makes the animation process for such a short scene, so much unnecessary longer
To be honest, all wrong versions played sounds perfectly ironically right. Take as example the 5:27 one, for example. It's exactly what a baby thinking he is cool af would sound like. Also everything in the simpsons
Great video, guys! It's awesome when the animators pay attention to detail so much that the playing is right, BUT no one - except for musicians and/or people who play that instrument - will notice if it's not accurate, so I can understand why studios don't usually bother.
I like their laughing. It makes me feel happy for some reason
When most of the classical pieces you've heard was from Tom and Jerry...
"Why not just get it right?"
I hope this was just a throwaway joke or just talking about that one clip because otherwise, I don't think Joel has any idea what getting right means in the context of animating instruments correctly. 👽
Edit: Okay, thank god, he acknowledges it later in the video.
What about this with paper? 10:44
@@ellaDdoesvlogs I don't know what you're talking about, Spongebob totally got it right.
@@perenniallachrymosity276 Got to hear paper sounds!
I was not expecting the worlds of Caillou and RoomieOfficial to intersect today but here we are
This video reminded me of cartoons that I forgot ever existed. High levels of nostalgia!
I know its just a meme, but in reality... Who cares how its animated?
The Tom and Jerry episode where his Southern uncle who pulls Toms whiskers come to visit, the fact that he plays basically nothing on his guitar, just makes it more fun.
UNCLE PECOS!
Real musicians care...
drawing hands is difficult. There are a number of times I have drawn things inaccurately because I couldn't get hands to look right while also being accurate for the angles.
10:04 I love how they already have the Bad Guys scene in there, that's awesome!
If I have to guess why some are partially accurate it's probably because they didn't want to hire a professional(budget limitation) to tell them the correct way to play whatever they are playing and so the animators were just watching videos(or for older animations they might've consulted friends who play the intstrument as a hobby) and since they aren't musicians they can't judge if they've made mistakes(didn't get the correct way to do it from the videos they watched).
The original Tom & Jerry is the reason I like classical music. I'm sure a lot of people from that generation are the same.
3:06 every 7 yo kid playing drums for the first time
In the Axel F one, I (as a reflex) said Ding ding right after the song. And then August said Ding ding at the exact same time! So we said Ding ding at the EXACT same time. Pretty cool 😂
Amazing concept. Really funny to see the inaccuracies in cartoons.I love the bass kid too.
In Soul they actually used a technique called motion capture. Where the actor is an actual piano player, and they motion captured his hands, so that the motions are directly put into the animation. Like they also do in video games.
5:00 - Pixar uses automation, so they just can load midi and player's fingers automaticly push right notes =))
In the stop motion classic film “Pinch Cliff grand-prix” there is a musical scene where al instruments in an ensemble was played 100% correct. The maker of this movie was a perfectionist and wanted musicians who watched this brilliant film to enjoy correct handling of the instruments 🎸 👍👍😎
SpongeBob and his paper playing a bop always left me dying lmao
You're doing a similar thing that Two Set Violin did, but they did it with violins in movies as well as animations.
If you want instruments to be animated correctly, there are two ways to go about it.
1) Rotoscoping. Have a musician play, and animators will film it. Then frame by frame the film will be traced over.
2) Motion Capture. Have a musician wear a motion capture suit and have the instrument marked with motion capture 'dots'.
YES I love watching the comparison videos!! Cracks me up every time. Oh my gosh and the amount of flutes I've seen just plum going the wrong way is abhorrable. 😂
Never Animated Correctly 👀 To an extent some instruments are. It can be tough to go frame by frame, usually its a surprise when some come out correct/accurate. Was Humourous & fun to watch, Keep it up & Stay Safe Guys 🎶 😎 👊
2:42 it sounds like a plane
Nobody:
Joel: LOOK AT THOSE SEXY HANDS!
3:52 - Haha, good song for a kids movie. "Money for nothing.. Chicks for free"
Wow can’t believe I never saw this video till now! Thanks for featuring my videos on the channel!
90s kids : 😂😂
20s kids : how the hell is a rabbit playing a piano
Chances are the two scenes were done by two different animators so one tried to do it right the other just tried to get the shot done, it could also be time constraints, to do it right might have taken a little extra time the animator could really spare
It's A Cartoon What Did Ya Expect🤣🤣
that one you couldnt remember was hocus pocus lol
This is why Tom and Jerry's Hungarian Rhapsody won an Oscar for Best Animated Short Films and Bugs Bunny did not.
3:52 I hear this song on the radio all the time. It's a good song, but when radio stations keep playing it for months or even years, I get burned out.
kind of "What I think I'm playing" vs "What I'm actually playing" 🤣
10:10 THAT’S MY TEACHER. I AM NOT LYING. SIR JP, YOU’RE FAMOUS
Loved this! I always pay attention to the animation when instruments are involved. Well done all! Thanks! :D
For soul they worked really hard on making the fingers moove and bend as they should, the tendons of the hands show as they do irl, and press the right keys as they should etc.
For Soul, the Pixar animators filmed Jon Batiste playing and used the videos to animate Jamie Foxx's character playing. That was the best way to do it IMHO. I enjoy all your videos, Roomie! I learn a lot.
I love how the video has ended to 2:55 then he starts the video LMAO
He does that in every video. That's his style
The drum parts in animated AND live-action shows always crack me up. Thanks for throwing some of those scenes in there!
"Practice 40 hours a day to get it right."
- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Love this video!! Laughing along with Roomie and August😂👍❤
One rare example of correct is the film "Abominable" when Yi is playing her violin. Excellent video!
5:10 I believe it was the initial chord that was different, based on the notes I'm hearing.
One of my lifelong dreams is to animate someone in a movie playing never gonna give you up instead of their actual song. So the soundtrack movie would be playing, but if someone went through the trouble to figure out what the actual notes are, they will be Rick rolled. You’re welcome.
Guys who make most of their music digitally are critiquing cartoon music! Yes!
In total drama when Trent was playing he just hit g flat
Fun fact: nobody watched this till the end except roomie and the editor yet!
I’m 4 mins away
@@Splotchy same
Fun fact: technically this was streamed so plenty of people have
@@zachariepoitras9412 fr
@@zachariepoitras9412 Oh shi i was wrong
Man Monsters vs Aliens got it close XD, honestly I assume that there were kicks hidden in the Bad Guys scene, but the 4th notes from the hi hats I think somehow hits a lot different some reason, plus it somehow seems like the shark's playing the lofi hip hop pattern, like the drunk drumming it's called iirc
Me who has never played any instruments:
o______o
3:45 I agree with him. I love the last 🎺nih🎺
AHDUSAHDU THAT LIL HEX GRILS MOMENT KILLED ME I WAS SCARED THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT IT WAS FROM AJJJSjdiAHUIDSA
So yeah, Tom and Jerry got an oscar for that...
I know with Pixar and modern animations that are story driven, they are animating after the voices are recorded, but I wonder if a lot of animations are in progress before they even know what the music might be??? Or it is just animators who only have a general reference of this is the low end of the piano and this is the high end, I draw hands moving on keys.
Im very curious about aristocats from Disney 😂 with the scene everybody wants to be a cat
0:45 I knew I recognized the voice of the singer. That is one of the guys from “they might be giants” they are one of the most random bands ever.
As nobody seems to be talking about Vampire in the Garden I must say this, I ejoyed the anime, it was fine, and I found the music beautiful. I'm so glad they animated it properly!
Same, it was nice anime.
11:05 “Here’s the thing, we started out friends. It was cool but it was all preten-end”
One scene that's supposed to be 100% accurate is the music jam session in "Flåklypa Grand Prix", a Norwegian stop motion puppet picture from the mid 70ies.
From a “hand person,” your hands are better than the piano player’s. 😊
Pixar always puts a lot of effort into making the instruments correctly animated
11:47 that bass player makes Pigpen look good.
The "what they actually played" are my favourites 😂
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
10:25 wowowowOWOWOWooow
Yup. That's my video
The most important part about Charlie Brown is that Schroeder gets that sound out of a toy piano.
Just a lil fun fact: A lot of old cartoons were animated first and voices were added in after and had the match the characters mouth movements resulting in the exaggerated speech we've come to love in old cartoons. Not really relevant but still a groovy lil fact
Day 2 of wanting him to listen to boywithuke
That was really funny - I didn't expect to enjoy breaking music scenes from cartoons so much :)
8:58
Hey I finally found the scene that has been stuck in my head forever.
Edit: i meant 7:38
I mean, the higher you go on the keyboard, the louder it is.... I mean, technically true. Higher notes are louder than lower notes ^^ (and that's exactly why decibel is such a bad unit)
Okay - the Sponge Bob at around 10:33 literally made me laugh out loud. PERFECTION!
It always bothers me how inaccurately guitars are portrayed in Soviet movies. Almost every song is dubbed by a professional musician, so most of the time the actor just does random stuff to the guitar neck in hopes that it looks like they're actually playing the guitar, it bothers me so much xD
Tom is the only cartoon character to play a piano with a swag.
8:00 I KNEW IT !!!!! Schroeder is a poser !!!!!!
7:34 That might be another reason that Disney Pixar get the animation right, rather than smaller children's TV shows. They have a bigger budget so can therefore get better animators to get it right.
The Tom and Jerry one, Cat Concerto, is one of my favorite cartoons. And one of my favorite classical music pieces, Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 by Liszt. It even won an Oscar.
Having played clarinet for 5 years it’s so funny to watch squidward play the clarinet