Astrolabes: The Medieval 'Smartphone'? | Seb Falk

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  • @juliettemay2666
    @juliettemay2666 3 роки тому +12

    I completely get that emotional feeling of actually seeing a piece made so long ago. I told my family when I finally see Greek pottery from the classical age or if I'm ever lucky enough to see a Minoan Frescoe, I would cry. It would be an amazing moment.

    • @davidamen2839
      @davidamen2839 Рік тому

      to compare this astrolabe to an ancient greek one is just like to compare a tamgoshi with an high end pc

  • @charrouki
    @charrouki 4 роки тому +105

    For the scientific integrity, we must mention the great role that Muslim scientists played in developing the astrolabe, which entered Europe via Andalusia. Many stars have Arabic names.

    • @fuzzytrex667
      @fuzzytrex667 4 роки тому +5

      Beautifully put :]
      A fuller understanding of the unity of transmission that scientific understanding has gone through will bring all peoples closer together.

    • @fuzzytrex667
      @fuzzytrex667 4 роки тому +12

      @R Yes, but astrolabes as a device were transmitted directly to Western Europe via the Islamic-Arabic scholars in Al-Andalus (The Iberian Peninsula). Geoffrey Chaucer's Astrolabe Treatise, the first documented in English, takes directly from the adapted al-Khwarizmi astrolabe treatise by al-Majriti and al-Saffar under the Umayyad Caliphate.

    • @audijohns9187
      @audijohns9187 3 роки тому +13

      Moors use it to navigate, the very first Astrolabes are in Arabic for a reason. It’s funny how they give credit to Greeks for inventing everything when they themselves was taught in Egypt. All of them were students of Ancient Khemit.

    • @fuzzytrex667
      @fuzzytrex667 3 роки тому +1

      @@audijohns9187 Awesome comment! Would you mind suggesting your favorite articles/dissertations/books/papers on Greeks and Ancient Khemit? I'm very interested!

    • @tomtaylor5623
      @tomtaylor5623 3 роки тому +3

      @@audijohns9187 the very first astrolabes are greek, and the ancient egyptians WERE greek. Not only does their mythology state this, that they came from Egypt to populate greece, DNA has now proven this.

  • @TimSmith714
    @TimSmith714 3 роки тому +4

    Enjoying reading the Light Ages and great to see an astrolabe

  • @GCRL1000
    @GCRL1000 4 роки тому +7

    Great introduction to science in the Middle Ages and to perhaps its most versatile and most beautifully crafted instrument. #thanks

  • @Jamzzila
    @Jamzzila 3 роки тому +9

    Great video I loved learning how it's used.. There are over a thousand applications for it that AlKhwarismi back in the Islamic world much earlier had mentioned with his astrolabe.

  • @Calinks
    @Calinks Рік тому +3

    That is some ridiculously impressive technology.

  • @AntonioLopez-of3jl
    @AntonioLopez-of3jl 2 роки тому +13

    Europe was in the dark. Middle East was where the light of knowledge and culture lit.

  • @darkrai6543
    @darkrai6543 3 роки тому +3

    The book is excellent - I'm making my way through it myself right now. It's actually made me want to pursue acquiring my own Astrolabe - it seems like something that will be great fun to show students, to give them an idea of how people of the past used to do things.

    • @sebfalk1980
      @sebfalk1980 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you! I can tell you from experience, students really enjoy learning how these medieval gadgets worked.

    • @darkrai6543
      @darkrai6543 3 роки тому +1

      @@sebfalk1980 Indeed! I know I'll be showing off a few things in the future whenever I wind up getting my history endorsement for teaching. Thank you again!

  • @georgecook7733
    @georgecook7733 3 роки тому +10

    I watched this alongside reading the chapter 'Astrolabe and Albion' in the book. It's very hard to get one's head around these scientific concepts - quite humbling when compared to our modern stereotypes of the so called dark ages, particularly when mention Chaucer's introductory texts written for his 10 year old son! I am not great with scientific concepts but very much enjoying the book.

    • @sebfalk1980
      @sebfalk1980 3 роки тому

      Thank you - glad you're enjoying it!

  • @shalpert1947
    @shalpert1947 7 місяців тому +1

    The horse who squashed the globe was smart. He knew that all measurements must be made from a level earth. Level meaning sea level and horizontal meaning flat like a horizon.

  • @alisonaddicks1584
    @alisonaddicks1584 3 роки тому +5

    Just listened to the library audiobook and ordered a hard copy! Gotta have all those charts and photos! Thank you - wonderful narration btw!

    • @sebfalk1980
      @sebfalk1980 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks - I'm very glad you enjoyed it!

  • @MrWig100
    @MrWig100 3 роки тому +1

    I'm reading and enjoying 'The Light Ages'.

  • @dafoex
    @dafoex 3 роки тому +4

    One thing I do with my modern smartphone is track man-made satellites, which is something the makers of astrolabes would never have dreamed of, but never the less it makes me wonder if I could do that on an astrolabe

  • @jimjimskimmer1935
    @jimjimskimmer1935 Рік тому +3

    Its squashed flat because the EARTH IS FLAT!

  • @DharmendraSharma-vf8yr
    @DharmendraSharma-vf8yr 7 місяців тому

    This is an amazing video, I have never seen a video like this before.

  • @duskairable
    @duskairable 2 роки тому +5

    Al asturlab in Arabic or sithara yab in Persian or astrolabe in English.
    I have one of this 😁

  • @timbyard-jones6320
    @timbyard-jones6320 2 роки тому +5

    This is the exact same reproduction astrolabe that I use in my living history presentations. It always fascinates people...

    • @cpt.walker6273
      @cpt.walker6273 Рік тому +2

      Where does one purchase one of these larger versions?

    • @vandengrey6912
      @vandengrey6912 Рік тому

      @@cpt.walker6273 Same question I was going to ask

  • @BlondeManNoName
    @BlondeManNoName 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating, I was always wondering what these devices were.

  • @tomwalker1888
    @tomwalker1888 4 роки тому +7

    My son (7) says: that was extra good!

    • @Vedant-zh7ry
      @Vedant-zh7ry 3 роки тому

      your son did not say that stop lying

    • @dafoex
      @dafoex 3 роки тому +1

      @@Vedant-zh7ry 7 is pretty old for a young kid. If their son was 4 I'd say they were lying, but I can believe 7 - especially since it's something I'd have said at 7 regarding cool science stuff.

  • @alohafromflorida2350
    @alohafromflorida2350 Рік тому +4

    What kind of emotional experience would you have once you realize that the astrolabe is a geocentric flat and stationary earth device? Same with the anti-Catherine mechanism. Everyone back then knew the Earth was flat in Stationary. They didn’t believe it was. They knew it was. Your story of a planus fear being a smashed spherical device by a horse was hilarious though. Keep researching. Try questioning your indoctrination.

    • @Chakravarti2911
      @Chakravarti2911 9 місяців тому +2

      There's nothing wrong with it. Astronomy and Science have pseudoscientific roots- Astronomy came from Astrology, Chemistry from Alchemy, etc. You would've believed Geocentrism too if you were born back then during that time period.

  • @cuscotopiageografia2890
    @cuscotopiageografia2890 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent Video

  • @TommyLikeTom
    @TommyLikeTom 7 місяців тому

    he neglected to mention that the astrolabe he is holding is almost definitely a modern version. Traditional Astrolabes were quite practically designed

  • @ALLAHISENOUGHFORPALASTINE
    @ALLAHISENOUGHFORPALASTINE Рік тому +1

    This is better than anything of today because it doesn't rely on network or energy,it can be used anywhere in the universe. Thanks to the muslims

  • @aaronmurray4735
    @aaronmurray4735 3 роки тому +6

    Wonderfully informative. But how was it even possible to do a 9-min. video on the astrolabe without mentioning, not even once, the debt to high Islamic culture. That seem very odd. I know this is an historian of the European Middle Ages, but still. Am I missing something?

    • @sebfalk1980
      @sebfalk1980 3 роки тому +4

      I do cover it in my book - and of course medieval Europeans were well aware of their debt to the Islamic world. This video was more about how the instrument works and what it was used for.

    • @aaronmurray4735
      @aaronmurray4735 3 роки тому +5

      @@sebfalk1980 Understood! I will have to read the book. Very nice video, and very clear explanation of the astrolabe. It's easy to leave a critical comment like this, and I should have done more research on the full picture of what you had to say.

    • @Chakravarti2911
      @Chakravarti2911 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sebfalk1980If the video was for explaining how to use it, why mention the horse story?

  • @flatthumbs8585
    @flatthumbs8585 Рік тому +1

    FLAT EARTH TRUTH

  • @mohammedaldhubaibi2489
    @mohammedaldhubaibi2489 Рік тому +3

    Thanks to the Muslim scientists who invented that instrument which is the fact you deliberately ignored during this video. They still don't know how to use it in Europe, perhaps you can Ask Mr. Glen Cooper about this masterpiece you are holding.

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Astrolabes existed many hundreds of years before islam. I thought everyone knew this

  • @danwelsh6706
    @danwelsh6706 4 роки тому +3

    Cool video

  • @1HorseOpenSlay
    @1HorseOpenSlay 2 роки тому +1

    It's squashed flat...just like the earth.cuz a horse stepped on it. (Classic). This is a great video. Really well explained

  • @ארזהלפרן
    @ארזהלפרן 2 роки тому

    Nice. Thanks

  • @YonEAE
    @YonEAE Рік тому +1

    Conveniently, a historian at Cambridge University drop out those who finessed this instrument !! sheeeeeeeesh.

  • @shrikantgangarde2541
    @shrikantgangarde2541 2 роки тому +1

    #This is a 14th-century instrument used to make astronomical measurements that is in the Geneva Museum of the History of Science.
    Zoom in and see!
    You can find Sanskrit script engraved on it! In which you on this no

  • @lgsama
    @lgsama 2 роки тому +5

    Did he said the word muslim?

  • @s1p2a3r4
    @s1p2a3r4 3 роки тому +2

    II would love to know where to buy the astrobobe like you have to go with your book! I found not very nice ones on amazon

  • @tbishop4961
    @tbishop4961 2 роки тому

    Good stuff
    Some of the very best music of every generation is almost straight up plagiarized from a previous generation
    An analog comeback is in order

  • @indigo_summer6427
    @indigo_summer6427 Рік тому

    Where can i buy one?

  • @shrikantgangarde2541
    @shrikantgangarde2541 2 роки тому +1

    #This is a 14th-century instrument used to make astronomical measurements that is in the Geneva Museum of the History of Science.
    Zoom in and see!
    You can find Sanskrit script engraved on it! In which you on this no#This is a 14th-century instrument used to make astronomical measurements that is in the Geneva Museum of the History of Science.
    Zoom in and see!
    You can find Sanskrit script engraved on it! In which you on this no

  • @logicalreason
    @logicalreason Рік тому +1

    Alhamdullilah for Islam

  • @peterhoebarth4234
    @peterhoebarth4234 2 роки тому +2

    Minute 1.43, Plainsphere.....flat.....(flat Earth). Tank Your.

  • @evil7529
    @evil7529 9 місяців тому +1

    So interesting! Also interesting is that Islam ceased scientific contribution in the 15th century.....😅

  • @thebeatrumble
    @thebeatrumble Рік тому

    This is what they mean when they tell you “you’re over qualified” for a job position.

  • @unarammer2003
    @unarammer2003 3 роки тому +5

    little deciever...he wants you to think it's a squashed globe...no,no,no the dome of the sky is flattened.. the firmament...
    it can tell you the altitude TO THE STARS....oppps we won't mention that

  • @sidjoosin6549
    @sidjoosin6549 2 роки тому

    when one can say where any star will be or where was example 3063 year in the future/in the past on for may, 5 at 3 a.m. from any place (exactly from Times Square ex) - it means that person fully understand movement of stars, and there is Nothing to add about this movement.
    and another one can make funny animations how stars moving and where and think as laughable old theories but reality says "if his theory allow him to predict any star in any time from any place - means his theory perfect and you are making cartoons"

  • @pouyavatanpoor2625
    @pouyavatanpoor2625 2 роки тому +3

    No no those nothing to do with Greece and the Greek history.
    The astrolabe was made by the Muslim people in the golden Islamic time. Please make your researches complete before you make a video to teach people. And if you do make sure that you give the truth information on the story

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Astrolabes existed many hundreds of years before islam existed

    • @dopejoel
      @dopejoel Місяць тому

      No. Byzantines had it.

  • @havabuday
    @havabuday Рік тому +3

    Unfortunately It was actually stolen from the muslims in the east and credit was given to the ancient Greeks. Sad we have liars re writing history and altering the hidden truth. I feel embarrassed for those thieves couldn’t brag about their own inventions lol #Al-ʻIjliyyah

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Ancient greeks lived hundreds of years before islam existed

  • @KnowledgeHub-xk8hq
    @KnowledgeHub-xk8hq 5 місяців тому +1

    Why didnt you give credit to the Islamic world for doing significant and critical developments on the astrolobe?
    This video is factually invalid in terms of the history it tells.

  • @aqua7576
    @aqua7576 2 роки тому

    I would have just as much trouble operating the astrolabe as I have with my android.

  • @TrumpMMA
    @TrumpMMA 2 роки тому +2

    Earth is FLAt

  • @KOKingGaming
    @KOKingGaming Рік тому +4

    1:50 That is not how the Astrolabe was made at all and had nothing to do with Ptolemy - Mariam Al Astrulabi a Muslim Woman created the Astrolabe! Please state facts and not "tales".

  • @nevem5010
    @nevem5010 Рік тому

  • @yildirimnessy
    @yildirimnessy 2 роки тому

    get the names and the origin right???

  • @AbuLeenH
    @AbuLeenH Рік тому +1

    It wasn't the Muslims, it was the horse of the Greek astronomer. The brilliance of Western historians' imagination keeps surprising us. 😅

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Astrolabes existed many hundreds of years before islam. I thought everyone knew this

    • @Chakravarti2911
      @Chakravarti2911 9 місяців тому +1

      Racism at its finest, indeed.

    • @AshleyLynch3
      @AshleyLynch3 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jonathanengdahl9045this one did? It's got Arabic writing 😂

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 9 місяців тому

      @@AshleyLynch3 AstrolabeS plural. What does it say?

  • @RRRandA17andOTHERS
    @RRRandA17andOTHERS Місяць тому

    Am i the only one who notices astrolabe... Has astro???

  • @lidorshimoni694
    @lidorshimoni694 2 роки тому

    TXN!

  • @najiramdhan4837
    @najiramdhan4837 Рік тому +1

    He didn’t even mention that the Astrolabe was developed by the Arabs 😂!!!!

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Because it wasnt. Ancient greeks had astrolabes which is clearly stated in the video

  • @bumb_blet1593
    @bumb_blet1593 18 днів тому

    The earth is a fixed flat level plane with a dome firmament above. The sun, moon and stars are fixed and they work like a heavenly clock work! They tell us the time of day, month and year! Read the bible! They all knew from the beginning because God Almighty taught them. He starts in genesis by telling them exactly what the sun, moon and stars are for! Telling them they are for times and seasons. We are no better today than they were from the beginning of the creation of the heavens and the earth.

  • @MKHAZARVI
    @MKHAZARVI Рік тому

    I wonder if someone has made an effort to reported this pandora of fabricated lies.

  • @engineerered4577
    @engineerered4577 3 роки тому

    Nice

  • @mohammedaldirdiri3694
    @mohammedaldirdiri3694 Рік тому +1

    Its an invented by islamic scientists*

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Astrolabes eisted many hundreds of years before islam existed

  • @bennyirawan5086
    @bennyirawan5086 2 роки тому +1

    What people have high knowledge at the middle ages so can make and use this tool?.. euro?!🤭😁..at that time europe people telled by church earth was flat🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @phearlesspharaoh3697
    @phearlesspharaoh3697 2 роки тому

    If Ptolemy invented it then why do they give credit to Islamic scientists?

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 11 місяців тому

      Who are they?

    • @Chakravarti2911
      @Chakravarti2911 9 місяців тому +1

      Cuz Ptolemy story is only a story. Astrolabe comes from Arabic Asturlāb. Although it was invented in the Hellenistic civilisation and later refined by Muslims, with al-Khwarizmi explaining more uses of the instrument.

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 9 місяців тому

      @@Chakravarti2911 The arabic word Asturlab comes from the greek word Astrolabos

    • @jonathanengdahl9045
      @jonathanengdahl9045 9 місяців тому

      @@Chakravarti2911 Asturlab comes from greek Astrolabos

  • @GeraldBlack1
    @GeraldBlack1 Рік тому

    But it still can't find a girlfriend!

  • @TreeBug88
    @TreeBug88 2 роки тому

    Ridiculous

  • @ninjatakes4321
    @ninjatakes4321 Рік тому

    What a cringe title oh my god dont do this to yourselves

  • @atag1960
    @atag1960 Місяць тому

    I know how bankrupt you are.
    Why is it so hard for you to let go of all the fictitious stories you were told in your school, especially when the whole other world knows you are canceling the truth.

  • @RRRandA17andOTHERS
    @RRRandA17andOTHERS Місяць тому

    Am i the only one who notices astrolabe... Has astro???

  • @najiramdhan4837
    @najiramdhan4837 Рік тому +2

    He didn’t even mention that the Astrolabe was developed by the Arabs 😂!!!!

    • @najiramdhan4837
      @najiramdhan4837 Рік тому

      @@elmehditouil and he didn’t mention Muslims either!

  • @RRRandA17andOTHERS
    @RRRandA17andOTHERS Місяць тому

    Am i the only one who notices astrolabe... Has astro???