30 Essential Ideas you should know about ADHD, 9B ADHD Medication Myths
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I am starting to really like this guy. You can tell he is super knowledgeable and doesn’t beat around the bush. He literally tells it like it is. Love it.
2:58 "Televised journalism is a form of entertainment, NOT information."
Beautiful how this video is about drugs and has the length of 4:20 min.
I normally don't make comments because online discussions are trash; but to the newly diagnosed ADHD'er that has stumbled upon this video and get's dissuaded or shamed by "Alan Berkley's" comments on this video just know that:
1) ADHD is real - it's being scientifically validated time and time again.
2) Medication is not addictive, ADHD stimulants (while some are a part of the amphetamine family) do not have the same chemical branches and are taken up by the body differently.
3) If you are on medication you are not a bad person.
4) Medication is not a 'cure' but rather a substantial push towards a sense of normalcy and productivity.
5) Note that Alan claims he's a retired engineer (which could mean literally anything or even be fake). This means he is not a medical professional and cannot make claims greater than (I researched this online / read it in a book). He is right (if he's honest about being a retired engineer) we probably couldn't do his job - but he can't do Russel Barkley's either. Also he acts like being a retired electrical engineer with a "110 IQ" is some sort of qualifier for his comments.
***** 6) He will probably respond to this comment - he tends to come back to this video every 6 months or so to say "ADHD isn't real" - for if he is retired he really doesn't have much else to do. DO NOT RESPOND. This is a classical example of "Okay Boomer".
Medication is not addictive, ADHD stimulants (while some are a part of the amphetamine family) do not have the same chemical branches and are taken up by the body differently. Really? Tell Richard Fees parents that or John Edwardes parents? Why does rehab consist of Adderall addicts? Why are people crushing and snorting these drugs to get high or for fun or pass exams?
@@alanberkeley7282 Because substance abuse is pervasive. Tbf I should've qualified it as "taking medication as prescribed".
@@QuantumImperfections You said these medication are not addictive. Lets have it out then. You wanted a debate. I will give you one. Shitheel.
I haven't found his comment about having 110 IQ, but that IQ is just average. Maybe approaching above average, but still average. If he said this in jest or for mere clarification, then at least he acknowledges that he's just average in accordance to IQ scales (who probably shouldn't go around declaring ADHD isn't real if he doesn't want to be embarrassed by the internet). If he said this as if he's bragging about it, his IQ is definitely lower than that.
@@sidbid1590Dunning-Kruger
Could you imagine if the same thing was said about other health conditions like questioning if we’re“overdosing cancer patients because two-thirds were receiving treatment” 🙄 lol
Cancer is Cancer. It is visible by X-ray or scan. ADHD depends on individual opinion.
@@alanberkeley7282 lol it’s all just opinions in medicine at the end of the day, and that’s why we’re encouraged to get a second one lmao. unfortunately deviations from a statistical ‘norm’ is all that appears on x-rays or scans, and further testing is often only required based on evaluation of the patients ‘subjective’ experience to provide a diagnosis. You would be surprised just how many of the unknown abnormalities turn up in tests that never go on to be given a classification if neither the practitioner, specialist or patient is concerned. Yes, some areas of medical technology have better tools than others to obtain a less biased diagnosis, but we’re also learning that many of these highly specific diagnoses were ‘incompletely’ (for lack of a better term) diagnosed and are more systemic than initially considered. For example, the seratonin to digestion system connection or that combined skin and joint problems may form systemic inflammatory conditions. On that last example, two areas of anatomy research where we still don’t fully comprehend the origins, mechanisms or have agreed diagnostic criteria, yet we can importantly, and still surprisingly, treat effectively with continuing advancements in treatment, include rheumatology and renal. One of my favourite quotes is that old saying of ‘the more we learn, the less we realise that we know”. something that may be of interest to you is a video from Medlife crisis ‘when cancer isn’t cancer’ 😊🌸😊
@@lunar686 That's why Alan Berkeley's view counts as much as Russell Barkley's. If not more so
@@lunar686 you americans love to treat everything with medication, instead of help people with psychoanalysis.
In my time a child are beaten when are distracted.... Maybe if you educated better your child, he never get adhd.....
How would a child ever know though that they are more susceptible to tics? There’s no viable way of knowing without trying that I’m aware of. So medication is a risk. Don’t downplay the risk. I think parents would be more open to medications if professionals were more willing to address BOTH the risks and benifits. Lay it ALL a on the table so we can make informed decisions.
Key points of ADHD medication:
🔸 doesn't cause aggression
🔸doesn't cause ticks unless the patient
already had them (but will subside if
you stop the medication)
🔸cannot cause seizures
🔸will not lead to substance abuse in adulthood
Nice job doctor 😀😀😀👍👍
He's Correct about TV "Journalism".
I know 2 people with ADHD who were More Aggressive as children when they were taking Adderall.
Therefore He is Wrong about Stimulants, not Causing Aggression; If It can Make it Worse Than it can Cause It.
appreciate the info but i’m a bit confused. in the start he states that ADHD meds are not addictive unless injected or snorted. but adderall is definitely addictive. is he talking about another drug altogether?
EDIT: i just realized he said “as prescribed” but as a former user of adderal and other controlled substances that were prescribed to me, it always starts out taking your pills “as directed”. maybe im misunderstanding.
Well basically adderall is not addictive towards ADHD'ers unless overused, the prescribed amount is specifically measured to only "fill" that gap of dopamine in the brain and not overstimulate it so for someone with ADHD it is impossible to get addicted unless the amount taken is higher than prescribed
@@soofaxThis is correct. People don't want to understand. Everything needs to black and white. No nuance, either it's addictive or it isn't.
I used to take Focalin when i was a child (forced) and I'm not 100% if it was the cause but i used to hallucinate some pretty scary things.
Which is why i don't take meds anymore btw.
I also tended to act more paranoid and had a terrible appetite.
Though again, I can't prove it was the meds. I just know I was taking them while it was all happening.
I'm sorry to hear that your parents and / or doctor didn't hear you about side effects and adjust the dosage, change different meds, experiment with med holidays etc.
it's not a great idea to avoid all meds because of one long ago issue
Amphetamines are absolutely addictive through oral ROA, this is just pure quackery. I personally know tons of people that just overuse each month, run out early, doctor still prescribes, they are very addicted, they admit it. Again, weird quackery claiming amphetamines arent addictive if the magical doctor gives them to you.
Barkley takes one third of his taxable income every year from big pharma. Of course he will say that.
They aren't addictive if you needed them in the first place. Just like morphine doesn't cause addiction when administered in extreme pain.
Amphetamines cause the body to run on overdrive understand. So even though behavior kind of normalizes Mentally for an ADHD person. The physical side effects of amphetamines cause muscles to constrict a little tighter than what they normally are, people grit their jaws, Etc. There is physical side effects to uppers Whether they are needed or not.When you are not taking them your body releases that constriction and hell yeah you are sore. They are no joke they are hard on the body.
I already grit my jaws A LOT. I know quite a few ADHD people on them, and I have heard of no such side effects.
You really are obsessed with ADHD aren't you?
you make a new comment every couple of months, don't you think you could have better things to do than be professionally salty because "the teevee said adderal bad, dis man wrong hnrrrghhhh" without even bringing a shred of evidence.
also even if that were true though i've never head of that effect... i think some tenseness is worth being mentally stable and productive dude, why are you so set on making sure adhd people don't get treated ?
if i was treated when i SHOULD'VE been i might have actually graduated or not got into addiction and all the dangerous impulsive shit. i know you see adderall and think of simpson sketches of zonked out kids being filled with crazy drugs but that is so far from the truth and you really need to educate yourself on what it's like to live with adhd through your life and WHY treatment is so important.
@@skyguyflyinghigh There is no ADHD
@@alanberkeley7282 adhd has more of an impact on the world than you do. i'd be completely happy to have a long drawn out civil debate with you including facts, statistics, research papers, the whole shebang. but something tells me you won't do that, you don't have the evidence or will enough to challenge your beliefs to have an actual debate. bring some kind of point to say next time so you don't fill up my youtube inbox with such 'stunning' arguments.
this may be a thing you're mad about every couple of months for some god-forsaken reason like some unreiable media outlet that told you about "kIdS tAkInG cOcAinE" but for people like me we have to deal with this every day, and we're completely aware how real it is, if you want to live with your head up your ass then enjoy eating your own bullshit.
i would respect you and debate you like a sensible person, but you're not, so i won't sugarcoat it like others would. every comment you've made here has been degrading, dismissive or downright ignorant of people you don't understand. even when people try to talk to you and explain how things are for them. you deserve as much respect as you give, and that is 0.
thousands of people smarter than you recognise it as real and there's genuine objective evidence for it being real. go get a single thought of your own in that empty head of yours you cretinous waste of oxygen. or at the very least, learn how to make a proper argument so it feels more like a debate between two rational adults instead of me wasting my breath screaming at a chimp trying to eat it's own shit.
@@skyguyflyinghigh You want a debate shit heel on ADHD. Go for it
The not addictive unless you inhale or inject is ridduculous. The chemical is what's addictive not the method of ingesting it he has said some great things in the last hour I've been listening but that's most ridiculous things I've heard and for the first time it shows the influence of pharmaceutical companies that he has been paid by occasionally throughout his career
i
have
ADHD Combined type
those medications treat
my
distractibility, inattention, hyperactivity(high energy), emotional dysregulation and impulsivity. psychomotor agitation etc
the symptoms that bother me the most are
agitation
irritability
anxiousness n distressed
racing thoughts and incessant talking
rapid pace talking
so much energy i can't stay still my body is always moving i am naturally wired
hyperalertness
etc
now on the ADHD stimulate meds what they make me feel on them is a
relax like mellowed out =calmed down effects and i get somewhat cognitively dumber cause my mind is slowed down i get more stupid like i process things slower but now i can retain them
before when not on them
i
could process something fast yet at the same time i lose it just as fast
also my symptoms are chronic
side effects are mostly
sweating n pupil dilation at worst i sip water through out the day cause i am sweating also i sleep on time on them i have to be on them 24/7 if not i dont tend to sleep
i am not euphoric like i don't feel any elevated feelings only relax n normal
so how tell me how do i get addicted
? all doses n stimulates do this i take dexedrine desoxyn adderall etc
@@chillmaster3502 not everybody gets addicted to anything two ppl can take same drug and one might get addicted or both or none.. I'm not saying a the medication is bad I'm just saying that him saying that method of ingestion being a key factor in addiction is strange statement as the chemical and person personality are the two factors the will determine addiction not the method of ingestion. Also not all drugs that are addictive produce a europhic feeling in fact some of the most heavily used drugs produce more of a relaxed feeling as is the case with opiods probaly most used drug in all its forms heroin and prescription forms. Just to reiterate I am not against medication as treatmens nor do I think anyone who takes medication is addicted all I was stating was the combination of the chemical and the person is what causes the addiction not the method of taking.
@@patrickclarke1462 actually aren't benzos supposed to cause euphoria/pleasure that is what is addictive but when u don't get it like me there is no addiction seems to me like they should prescribe them stimulants to the Adhd with the emotional dysregulation psychomotor agitation hyperactivity inattention distractibility impulsivity etc and not the other types
I completely agree. Ive been listening to this guy for a couple days now and i love what I've been hearing except for that. That was the first thing I've noticed he got completely wrong, they are very addictive and very much so cause aggressive and antisocial behavior whether if you have adhd or not.
@@chillmaster3502 no benzos are more of a minor sedative basically a weak tranquiliser.. I agree that some medication suit more than others depending on which symptoms are the strongest and depending on the individual in my opinion every treatment for anything needs to be person centred around who's being treated one size fits all is almost impossible but mental health services are generally understaffed and one size fits all and medications are easiest routes and also huge monetary value
If such a high proportion of US children and young adults need medication to pass as normal like Barkley says does that not suggest that normal has lost any meaning? Instead a false pattern of 'model behavior' has been instituted and chemically reinforced and as the years go by if this continues normal will become more progressively artificial and require more medical maintenance. Barkley rants about the science.
"Science" once told you that smoking cigarettes was good for you.
And "science" also peddled the lie that DDT was a harmless fly killer.
‘Science’ made the computing device you’re using to complain about ‘science’.
I have question, Alan. Why have returned to this video intermittently to spew aspersions at Russel Barkley and the science behind ADHD? At the time of typing, you’ve commented here 1 month ago, 1 year ago and 2 years ago. Are you pursuing a vendetta or something?
@@B3astMass Because people need to be made aware about what a pharma backed drug pusher he is
@@alanberkeley7282 He isn’t. Naturally because of his expertise he has advised some drug companies on their productions. Doesn’t mean he’s a shill. His lectures even open with disclaimers about this point. Also, Barkley doesn’t recommend medication for everyone with ADD, some need it, some don’t. Do your fucking research
@@B3astMass He said in 1999 once diagnosed there's no reason why a person with ADHD should not be medicated
Barkley says these medications work 80% of the time. That's what big pharma pay him to say. In reality it is around 40-50%.
Source?
Barkley has disclosed many times where his sources of income are. He has worked for pharamaceutical companies in the past as an witness expert or consultant. He has contributed significantly to the field of ADHD. Even if you don't trust that, the things he says are backed up by research and if you want a source for something just email him.
@@vitulus_
A guy with a PHD who is in bed with Big Pharma, who receives a third of his taxable income from them, who has made a career and good living out of promoting a bullshit disorder. I'm a retired engineer. I have nothing to lose. I'm not in bed with Big Pharma or taking their money or gifts or holidays or payments. My career doesn't depend on it. And besides this guy has a PHD. So what? He couldn't do my job. He wouldn't have a clue. Just because he has a PHD behind his name doesn't make him a smart, or good person, or in his case moral,. because he isn't. He telling you what his pharma paymasters want you to know.
He's nothing better than the drug pusher on the street corner. In fact he's worse.
@@alanberkeley7282 Alan, when did you start learning about Russel Barkley? And when did you decide he was with big pharma?
@@vitulus_ I've known about him circa 10 years.
"Ritalin will be classed as one of the leading developments for helping individuals".
Russell Barkley November 1998.
"Once convinced of an ADHD diagnosis there is NO reason why a person with it should NOT be medicated".
Russell Barkley 1999
His own research back in 1978 showed that "ADHD" kids did not learn more on stimulants. Yet he made his career claiming that not "medicating" "ADHD" kids was tantamount to child abuse.
So what on earth could have happened between 1978 and 1999?
More research. That's what happened
@@sierraskye913 And who funded the research and paid Barkley off? Big Pharma
@@sierraskye913 Barkley got paid off that's what happened
His research in 1978 showed that children were a lot easier to manage in a classroom. So executive functions were greatly improved.
@@randomgal stupefying children for the convenience of teachers is not treatment
"Once convinced of an ADHD diagnosis there is NO reason why a person with it should NOT be medicated".
Russell Barkley 1999.
His own research back in 1978 correctly showed that "ADHD" kids did not learn more on stimulants. Yet he made his career claiming that not "medicating" "ADHD" kids was tantamount to child abuse. it is beyond rock bottom that a civilization attacks innocent little ones for profit!!! And now here is in 2009 saying kids DO learn more on stimulant drugs.
Lol you probably shouldn't comment before watching the whole vid dude
1970s study disqualified 2009 study. Lol. Have you ever done research man
When the history of this time has been written, we will look back and see that Russell Barkley was one of those who have helped to create the Amphetamine/Adderall and Ritalin epidemic all over the USA that we are seeing today.
Russel Barkley may exaggerate a bit, but nevertheless medication helped countless ADHDers to have a more normal live. I would even say, without taking Concerta in my teens I would not have been able to achieve the things I did the last 10 years.
Also watch this:
www.additude.com/adhd-advocate-medication/
You are trying to destroy the lives of alot young people having ADHD with condemning medication and I will not let this happen as long as I am alive. 👊💥
@@schweizer93 exaggeration can be a good thing to hammer in a point
A guy with a PHD who is in bed with Big Pharma, who receives a third of his taxable income from them, who has made a career and good living out of promoting a bullshit disorder. I'm a retired engineer. I have nothing to lose. I'm not in bed with Big Pharma or taking their money or gifts or holidays or payments. My career doesn't depend on it. And besides this guy has a PHD. So what? He couldn't do my job. He wouldn't have a clue. Just because he has a PHD behind his name doesn't make him a smart, or good person, or in his case moral,. because he isn't. He telling you what his pharma paymasters want you to know.
He's nothing better than the drug pusher on the street corner. In fact he's worse.
I heard that you are an electrical engineer with 110 IQ. Is that true?
There is no ADHD
You are lying poor devil. It's real.
Are you cognitively disabled or just delusional? ADHD is real, how can there be an entire field of psychiatry on ADHD, learning difficulties and behavioural sciences where a mixture of medication, CBT and specialised treatment demonstrably helps people who suffer from ADHD?
Why are you so insistent on telling people your uneducated opinion?
i
have
ADHD Combined type
those medications treat
my
distractibility, inattention, hyperactivity(high energy), emotional dysregulation and impulsivity. psychomotor agitation etc
the symptoms that bother me the most are
agitation
irritability
anxiousness n distressed
racing thoughts and incessant talking
rapid pace talking
so much energy i can't stay still my body is always moving i am naturally wired
hyperalertness
etc
now on the ADHD stimulate meds what they make me feel on them is a
relax like mellowed out =calmed down effects and i get somewhat cognitively dumber cause my mind is slowed down i get more stupid like i process things slower but now i can retain them
before when not on them
i
could process something fast yet at the same time i lose it just as fast
also my symptoms are chronic
side effects are mostly
sweating n pupil dilation at worst i sip water through out the day cause i am sweating also i sleep on time on them i have to be on them 24/7 if not i dont tend to sleep
i am not euphoric like i don't feel any elevated feelings only relax n normal
@@chillmaster3502 username does not check out 😂
@@angrysammo ur absolutely right 😂😂