I personally prefer one longer video with both parts but I will definitely watch both videos if u continue to upload them this way. Keep up the class work.
Back in 2007 or so, I visited this airport (KPVF), and spoke with older gentleman that owned a business selling airplanes. He had a place in Alaska and mentioned selling the business to retire there with his younger wife. Hope he's doing well. Not sure if this is the same business that changed hands, or a new one altogether; but the videos are a nice touch. I really enjoy the comparisons done between the different years. You can always get specs or read little bits an pieces online; but the explanation in the videos is nice. I've been looking to buy or build in the next few years, and this helps steer the decision if I choose certified.
That was Joe Stancil in about 2007, yes. I worked for him for 17 years and he taught me everything I know about planes. In 2010 they did retire to Alaska and are still up there having a great time with cabins, float planes, ski-planes, salmon and halibut fishing, hunting and extremes of weather and daylight.
I vote to leave it together. UA-cam has a way of scrambling 2 part videos in the search, and I can't imagine who wouldn't want to see it fly. Thats my favorite part anyway.
Mike Busch loves it when people say shock cooling. You would never want to turn your engine off if shock cooling was a real thing. Nice detailed video. Loved my 201 and hope to be in a Bravo soon.
Another great video. I appreciate all the little touches you're adding to enhance the experience (snappy intro, gauges during flight). Most of all I enjoy all the incredible details you know about every plane you present. Personally, I prefer the walk around and flight in one video.
I was impressed with how well you know the models and somehow kept them straight. I like more information on planes so if it takes 2 videos to do it that would be my vote. Great channel
I like the 2 videos idea. That way if I'm short on time I can watch 1 and come back ( which I will do ) and see the other 1. As always a great video. Thanks Mark.
Whatever helps you for the videos (do one one day and the flying the next day to keep engagement up). I do however prefer one single long format video.
Once again, very informative. I'm still waiting for my diploma from SWU. I prefer a longer talk and fly video rather than a two part. Thanks for educating us on so many different models of aircraft. Well done!!
Great summary in the beginning and a great video. Thank you! I personally prefer a single video together. If you ever get a chance to do a video on some of the Rocket Engineering conversions of these planes (Rockets and Missiles) that would be really cool.
Hey Mark, thanks for showing the internet how to land any Mooney. We have owned 4. A M20a Wood Wing, F Executive, 201 and finally a 231. I also helped ferry an old Mooney Mustang Turbo across the Atlantic, it now lives in Malaga, Spain. There is no reason to land any Mooney fast or to ever float one. All the pilot has to do is fly the Mooney on the numbers, unfortunately, I have seen a lot of Civilian trained pilots who can not nail the speed and/or altitude in the pattern. As for the format of your videos. I like either.
Beautiful plane, your buddy's probably going to be getting a few calls, even thought it's not for sale! I should watch the flying video first, but if you're splitting them up would like to see more flying that a quick trip around the pattern, especially for a speedster like this one.
Thanks. On some where I know the owner well, we can do more flying, but generally the planes are here for a short time and I have to only go round the pattern.
Great presentation of the Mooney. This 'backward' vertical it is a kind of 'signature'' I would elect two separate videos. I hope A2A makes on for MSFS one day - though I this they would t' as they have never mentioned a Mooney
@@skywagonuniversity5023 A2A is the best GA add-on developer for MS Flight Sim. I don't believe they will create a Mooney (Bravo or other) for the sim as the have never mentioned as such. Also they create GA aiplanes they own.
Superb presentation as usual! I suppose if you split them then you could go a bit more in depth for each without potentially losing views because people think it's too long to watch.
Mooney...when you want to sit on the floor while flying! LOL No really, I have hundreds of hours in a M20C that my Dad owned when I was a teen. Huge soft spot for the type!
...and in the beginning, god said, let there be Mooney! NOT a fan of separate flight vid, UNLESS it's going to be consistently longer in duration. Otherwise, you know the drill...if it ain't broke don't fix it! (What say you, Don?)
Great job, love your videos. Manage your video times, so separate them for that reason only. I'll watch either way, but for some keeping things bite sized is better...
Came over from the flight vid... Killer soundtrack! Personally, I like the longer format, but I won't complain either way. It's easy enough for me to click the link. I'll be watching all your videos either way! Any plans on doing a canard video soon? Last time I mentioned it you were planning on doing a Cozy. Is that still in the pipeline? Cheers!
OH man two Mooney videos in one day! Love Lycoming, prob the next logical step up from my M20F if I stay in the mooneysphere. Does this have the single input mag like the m20j and Saratoga's?
Don't forget the Mooney Mustang. I believe 36 were built. If memory serves me correctly it was the first pressurized single engine production plane built. I wonder if there's any left??
Excellent video, thank you. You mentioned it has 'speed mods', maybe I missed it but can you tell me what those were? I heard gap seals, but what other speed mods? thanks.
I like the split format. Works for me. Can you tell me what the current status is with Mooney. I see they are out of production then I see you can buy new.
I thought I had. IO-360 at 200 HP Continental taken out of a Mooney M20K and a TSIO-520 NB from a Cessna 340 put in it's place at 305 HP along with all the other upgrades.
I have a question Mr Skywagon, its in regards these pushrods for the control units. How many airframe do you know that use this system? Ie you mentioned on this video the Bravo uses these controls for its airframe, what other airframes use same system? I know Diamond has this but never knew Mooney had this also??? If you could possible name all that you know past or current airframes that have this ? Please and thanks! Great videos! Cheers Nico
Nico, I know for sure that ALL Mooney's have rods and no cables. They always have. 100% not sure which other planes do, but, Beech, Piper, Cessna etc are all cables.
This Bravo owner had an Encore before the Bravo. Encore is a glorified 252. Encore is faster and hauls more weight more easily. Encore/252 is lighter and nimbler. Bravo is a tank.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Wow, that's interesting. This begs the question, how does a 231 equipped with 360-L (intercooler and improved wastegate) compare? Thank you!
With the recent Mooney crash in Florida is it true what they say that it’s common for Mooney’s baggage door to come off during flight and also door to open?
It's not really common, but just like any plane, make sure that the pilot closes the doors. They fly very well with the door off or open, so the pilot must have panicked. Fly the plane first. Wind and noise is a distraction.
The Speed brakes started with the MSE 201 in 1987. Everything before that did not have them and everything after that with very few exceptions did have them. If you manage the speed correctly, you do not need them on anything.
So good that at the high RPMs that were needed out of the tiny Porsche displacement to get it moving that they were recalled and replaced with a 540 Lycoming of twice the displacement.
As a proud Mooniac, I absolutely love listening to Mark preach Mooney history. Well done ol’ chap! Well done!
Thanks. All those letters really used to confuse me.
I would say keep them both as one video. But it probably really doesn't matter. Love your content either way.
Ok thanks!
I personally prefer one longer video with both parts but I will definitely watch both videos if u continue to upload them this way. Keep up the class work.
Sweet! Thank you & your friend for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Love the mooneys! You do such a thorough review !
Glad you like them!
Back in 2007 or so, I visited this airport (KPVF), and spoke with older gentleman that owned a business selling airplanes. He had a place in Alaska and mentioned selling the business to retire there with his younger wife. Hope he's doing well. Not sure if this is the same business that changed hands, or a new one altogether; but the videos are a nice touch. I really enjoy the comparisons done between the different years. You can always get specs or read little bits an pieces online; but the explanation in the videos is nice. I've been looking to buy or build in the next few years, and this helps steer the decision if I choose certified.
That was Joe Stancil in about 2007, yes. I worked for him for 17 years and he taught me everything I know about planes. In 2010 they did retire to Alaska and are still up there having a great time with cabins, float planes, ski-planes, salmon and halibut fishing, hunting and extremes of weather and daylight.
What a rocket 🚀. Love it
Excellent video…..!!!
Thank you very much!
This Mooney would kick a Bonanza’s ass!
The Bonanza is bigger and more comfortable, but only just. The Mooney is faster, but this is an age old discussion between arch rivals.
Beautiful airplane! Gosh! A true cruiser!
It really is!
Also prefer the single video.
Man! That’s a really nice looking Mooney. That tail is the clincher, very nice.
I like the combo
Very nice vid. One longer vid is my preference.
I like the original, all in one video. But would still watch either ways
I vote to leave it together. UA-cam has a way of scrambling 2 part videos in the search, and I can't imagine who wouldn't want to see it fly. Thats my favorite part anyway.
Great video, Mark and Dana.
Mike Busch loves it when people say shock cooling. You would never want to turn your engine off if shock cooling was a real thing.
Nice detailed video. Loved my 201 and hope to be in a Bravo soon.
Thank you.
Combined is preferred
Two parts will be great!
Another great video. I appreciate all the little touches you're adding to enhance the experience (snappy intro, gauges during flight). Most of all I enjoy all the incredible details you know about every plane you present. Personally, I prefer the walk around and flight in one video.
Mark you do great.....I would like to see in one video...thanks !
Noted!
Love the way you scrolled out the Skywagon University title with the aeroplane!
That is all Don.
Solid, no games information. I am impressed with your command of the important information. Good job. I prefer the shorter video format.
We appreciate the compliments and the input.
AWESOME info, and lucky owners if you are interested dont care if it is one or two videos thanks again
Thanks, Eduardo! You are welcome and we're glad you're watching.
I prefer the longer video with the flight included. A complete package. Also, if your phone doesn't ring during filming then it's just not right!
Awkward. Sorry about the phone.
@skywagonuniversity5023 Mark, I like it when the phone rings! Keeps it very down to earth "everday".
one video, two video, all good! I like the length of this walkaround.
More to come!
I was impressed with how well you know the models and somehow kept them straight. I like more information on planes so if it takes 2 videos to do it that would be my vote. Great channel
OK Thanks.
Love your videos. I would vote for the seperate videos with a link. Gives you more time to expand your explanation.
I like the 2 videos idea. That way if I'm short on time I can watch 1 and come back ( which I will do ) and see the other 1. As always a great video. Thanks Mark.
One video please but with a longer flight. Thank you Mark!!
As always great video. Sorry but I like it as one video for both.
I enjoy the two part videos.
Hi Mark
Happy either way Mark with the Video's again loved it great work take care
cheers David
Glad you enjoyed it
I would keep them one video. Love your content!
Whatever helps you for the videos (do one one day and the flying the next day to keep engagement up). I do however prefer one single long format video.
One video for me, but like it whichever way!
Separate videos with a link. And that is one beautiful Mooney.
I like the two separate video format.
Once again, very informative. I'm still waiting for my diploma from SWU. I prefer a longer talk and fly video rather than a two part. Thanks for educating us on so many different models of aircraft. Well done!!
Thanks.
My vote is one longer video instead of separate ones.
One Piece. Duration not a factor. One Hour Plus is fine. As it is just delightful time spent with your good self, it's a bonus for us!
Thank you.
prefer all in one video :) all the best from Poland
I like it as one part.
Just love the look of the mooney tail my dream is to fly in a Mooney!
It's the only way to have a tail.
Great summary in the beginning and a great video. Thank you! I personally prefer a single video together. If you ever get a chance to do a video on some of the Rocket Engineering conversions of these planes (Rockets and Missiles) that would be really cool.
I think I did a Rocket video.
I’ll look harder for it, thanks!
It looks like we did the Bravo, but not the Rocket. If we get on in, we'll definitely make the video for you.
Hey Mark, thanks for showing the internet how to land any Mooney. We have owned 4. A M20a Wood Wing, F Executive, 201 and finally a 231. I also helped ferry an old Mooney Mustang Turbo across the Atlantic, it now lives in Malaga, Spain. There is no reason to land any Mooney fast or to ever float one. All the pilot has to do is fly the Mooney on the numbers, unfortunately, I have seen a lot of Civilian trained pilots who can not nail the speed and/or altitude in the pattern. As for the format of your videos. I like either.
Happy either way Mark. As always great content. No phone call today … 😂 Take it easy.
Thanks 👍
Pedantic, eh? Lol
Great video mate! Cheers!
Hey, thanks!
Beautiful plane, your buddy's probably going to be getting a few calls, even thought it's not for sale! I should watch the flying video first, but if you're splitting them up would like to see more flying that a quick trip around the pattern, especially for a speedster like this one.
Thanks. On some where I know the owner well, we can do more flying, but generally the planes are here for a short time and I have to only go round the pattern.
Mar; one part, please, and thank you.!
I am flying Mooney
Great planes
One part!
Super aeroplane - another great video, thank you✌️💜😊 It's relatively economical for its speed vs distance etc. I'd have kept the step though 😉😉
This is good, more info this way.
Absolutly 2 Part vid is great I always think that the usual fly around is too short 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Great presentation of the Mooney. This 'backward' vertical it is a kind of 'signature''
I would elect two separate videos.
I hope A2A makes on for MSFS one day - though I this they would t' as they have never mentioned a Mooney
I'm not sure what this means.
I hope A2A makes on for MSFS one day - though I this they would t' as they have never mentioned a Mooney
@@skywagonuniversity5023
A2A is the best GA add-on developer for MS Flight Sim. I don't believe they will create a Mooney (Bravo or other) for the sim as the have never mentioned as such. Also they create GA aiplanes they own.
Hi Mark, great videos. Personally I prefer the all in one video. Thanks
Glad you like them!
I like them both together. I’m lazy. One video saves me a click.
Superb presentation as usual! I suppose if you split them then you could go a bit more in depth for each without potentially losing views because people think it's too long to watch.
Mooney...when you want to sit on the floor while flying! LOL No really, I have hundreds of hours in a M20C that my Dad owned when I was a teen. Huge soft spot for the type!
Lower than normal but not quite the floor but huge legroom.
always enjoy your informative videos....if you split into two with a link attached for the flying part, that works for me! Thanks.....
...and in the beginning, god said, let there be Mooney!
NOT a fan of separate flight vid, UNLESS it's going to be consistently longer in duration. Otherwise, you know the drill...if it ain't broke don't fix it! (What say you, Don?)
@_skywagonuniversity5023 ....hmmm....what's a "context?"
Great job, love your videos. Manage your video times, so separate them for that reason only. I'll watch either way, but for some keeping things bite sized is better...
I think we will do some of each. Some all in one and some others where I can fly it more, in two parts.
*Price of an older Cirrus.
One Video
2 part video is fine with me. Suits my limited span of attention!
I really like the new B roll. It suggests a more interesting video experience. As for the Mooney, what more can I say?
9:42 Haha, very memorable!
He went past me like I was standing still 60 Kts faster.
@_skywagonuniversity5023 Great! I never win contexts! I'll send you my name, address, and social security number!
One part please. The videos aren't terribly long when they're combined.
Mark you forgot the Mooney Mite!
True, but I started with the "Metal Mooney's"
Came over from the flight vid... Killer soundtrack! Personally, I like the longer format, but I won't complain either way. It's easy enough for me to click the link. I'll be watching all your videos either way! Any plans on doing a canard video soon? Last time I mentioned it you were planning on doing a Cozy. Is that still in the pipeline? Cheers!
I like the two-part videos. I feel like you go more in depth.
Me too.
I like em separate
1. My attention span is like a squirrel
2. Don’t always have time for a fil blown review.
👏👏👏
one part
Dig the 2 parts..
OH man two Mooney videos in one day! Love Lycoming, prob the next logical step up from my M20F if I stay in the mooneysphere. Does this have the single input mag like the m20j and Saratoga's?
Don't forget the Mooney Mustang. I believe 36 were built. If memory serves me correctly it was the first pressurized single engine production plane built. I wonder if there's any left??
Very True. The Mustang. Big and strange.
One
Excellent video, thank you. You mentioned it has 'speed mods', maybe I missed it but can you tell me what those were? I heard gap seals, but what other speed mods? thanks.
It had the step taken off. Gap seals. Fairings around landing lights and gear doors etc. A lot of little stuff to clean it up.
AS one video....
I like the split format. Works for me. Can you tell me what the current status is with Mooney. I see they are out of production then I see you can buy new.
One part
Please do a video over the m20 305 rocket.
I thought I had. IO-360 at 200 HP Continental taken out of a Mooney M20K and a TSIO-520 NB from a Cessna 340 put in it's place at 305 HP along with all the other upgrades.
Which model WeatherTech is that for the baggage compartment?
I have a question Mr Skywagon, its in regards these pushrods for the control units. How many airframe do you know that use this system? Ie you mentioned on this video the Bravo uses these controls for its airframe, what other airframes use same system? I know Diamond has this but never knew Mooney had this also??? If you could possible name all that you know past or current airframes that have this ? Please and thanks! Great videos! Cheers Nico
Nico, I know for sure that ALL Mooney's have rods and no cables. They always have. 100% not sure which other planes do, but, Beech, Piper, Cessna etc are all cables.
Why a Bravo with a 540 vs a 252 with the 360 (MB)? Thank you for sharing all the great knowledge.
This Bravo owner had an Encore before the Bravo. Encore is a glorified 252. Encore is faster and hauls more weight more easily. Encore/252 is lighter and nimbler. Bravo is a tank.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Wow, that's interesting. This begs the question, how does a 231 equipped with 360-L (intercooler and improved wastegate) compare? Thank you!
A 231 with the engine out of a 252 or an Encore and all the other speed mods is as fast as an Encore or a 252.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thanks
I’ll bet, at LOP and more conservative power settings, could save a noticeable fuel flow
True, but if you buy a Ferrari you want to drive a Ferrari.
With the recent Mooney crash in Florida is it true what they say that it’s common for Mooney’s baggage door to come off during flight and also door to open?
It's not really common, but just like any plane, make sure that the pilot closes the doors. They fly very well with the door off or open, so the pilot must have panicked. Fly the plane first. Wind and noise is a distraction.
do you know practical fuel consumption numbers of TLS Bravo if it is flown like a Cessna/Piper basic trainer? Say, 120 KTAS at FL100?
If you give it settings like a 201, it will fly like a 201 and use fuel like one too.
I only watch the talky bits.
One video.
OK, Looks like sometimes one and sometimes two. Depends of the plane etc. Thanks,
all mooney aircraft have speed brake's. Are just the high horsepower turbo bigger motor's have the speed brake's ??????
The Speed brakes started with the MSE 201 in 1987. Everything before that did not have them and everything after that with very few exceptions did have them. If you manage the speed correctly, you do not need them on anything.
Do they issue that outfit at the Mooney factory as well? 😂 Did he untuck his shirt so you wouldn't match as much?
We have the same Tailor.
Hi Mark, Prefer one video that is both talking and fliying
Maybe I missed that sentence but you haven’t listed the M20R ? It’s mine, Mooney Ovation. 🤓
I like Ovations. Mooney only missed out a few letters. I hope I got the R.
Porsche engine was better in every aspect
So good that at the high RPMs that were needed out of the tiny Porsche displacement to get it moving that they were recalled and replaced with a 540 Lycoming of twice the displacement.
One part