I always felt like Ball Breaker was just a version of “gaining a stand by mastering a skill” like Tonio in part 4. Jonathan and Joseph both gained Hermit Purple (Jonathan’s isn’t directly called HP but it’s the same in looks and function) through mastery of Hamon (though they could not perceive it until Dio fully activated them), so I think it’s similar to this, where mastery of the same skill gives a stand similar in looks and abilities
Ball Breaker is the representation of the spin in form of a Stand, similar to how The Wonder of U is just a physical representation of calamity itself. Basically you can see Ball Breaker as the stand of the steel balls more than the stand of Gyro
Counterargument. There is *one* way to get an additional stand on top of your existing one. Stand Discs. As shown in the final confrontation between Emporio and Pucci, Emporio was capable of combining the powers of Burning Down the House AND Weather Report to finally end the man. We have no idea if he KEPT Weather report after that, but. Hey. Dual wielding stands. Which reminds me. Technically Anubis counts to that too, because he can possess a stand user and utilize their stand. Unorthodox, sure, but it IS two stands at once working in sync.
Very informative video. But I have one thing to say. The infinite rotation is an ability only Johnny has. Gyro is using spin normally. While Johnny is using it through his stand. Any none stand user who would've used the super spin would get ball breaker. Honestly gyros ability probably would've been different if kept stand scan.
Ball breaker is a stand that manifested because of the energy of the spin, other users would have different stands that basically do the same thing, Gyro could have made a infinite spin shot if his steel ball was perfect
@@alterX-on ironically this means Giorno in retrospect against Black Sabbath was acting like a child not eating his veggies, he could have gotten a new ability.
There are actually some ways to have multiple stands. One way is to have a substand such as SHA or Epitaph. While not actually a standalone stand I think they can be counted as separate. Then you can have one of Pucci’s discs inserted into you, assuming you’re a stand user, you’ll have multiple stands like we saw with emporio.
There’s a chance he was born with it or came into contact with the virus at some point from what we can tell there are a lot of stand users that we have no idea about and stands are generational I mean the arrows were made thousands of years ago it makes it would make sense if family lines contracted the virus and started to produce stand users just look at dio’s kids or Holly and Jotaro
I just found it weird how Jolene wasn’t born with one but she needed a piece of the arrow that toucher I don’t know that’s not something that bothered me. Why is that?
I’d say because Jolyne was born after dio died and when dio died the signal from Jonathan’s body disappeared meaning if any joestar was born after dios death they would need an arrow
@@BUR404 In a data book or maybe the manga I don't remember but it listed the ways you can get stands, and it included Hamon and the mask. Also Joseph said that his stand evolved from Hamon.
Some things you misunderstood or didn’t mention: - “stand users hit with an arrow are unaffected”. Tell that to Kira. - Because Jolyne wasn’t born yet, she is the only joestar who didn’t get a stand from DIO. - All stand arrows work as requiem arrows. For requiem, the stand must be stabbed, not the user.
D4C doesn’t just send attacks to the other side of the earth. One attack was sent to the Vietnam war which wouldn’t happen for another 60+ years within the time period steel ball run took place in.
You'd get a stand (or die), the disk would be rejected, you'd possibly get a stand evolution, then you'd bonk your head and not much would probably happen except a bad headache
There is one more. Part 4 drakes dream. The dude was just so good at marshal arts that a stand spawned. The stand had free will but was connected to the man, so you can spawn a stand which is bound but not controlled by you by being really good at stuff.
Bro Forgot Spins and Ripple are being stated and confirm are step forward gaining a stands anyways as in Steel ball run Chapter which is like Joseph Joestar have his own stand in Part 2 before Part 3 we're araki interview himself confirm that Joseph joestar have hermit purple in part 2
I mean, Pucci still have 1 stand. He just evolved it so I don't get your point. Though I still agree that 1 person can have multiple stands. I'm guessing what they're meaning with "Can only have 1 stand" is that they can only USE 1 stand at a time and NOT USE 2 stands.
@@justinjunkatigbak4576if you still someone body you get there stand and your own I.e dio and if you have multiple personality disorder you get 2 cause in jojo that classified as different soul also if 1 personality dies the living one get both stands until he dies
@@justforthings9996 you can also apparently evolve your stand to perfectly counter your enemies abilities given you have enough determination I.e star platinum the world and s&w go beyond also maybe tusk act 4
Fir the stand disk. Jolyne could also use SP after inserting it into her head but since it's too strong it immediately ejected from her. So from this, I'm guessing that on how long the stand disk gets inserted to you depends on how compatible you are to it. It's still possible to use the moves but for a limited time only before it ejects. And SHA is an ability. it's a substand. Just like King Crimson's Epitaph which is his little pimple face on his forehead that has the ability to allow him to view the next 10 seconds of the future.
Huh, I thought the wall eyes did give them the stands, always thought that Yasuho, Kira and Joshu had human-like bitemarks on their bodies since being near which unlocked their stands
I'm sure Yasuho already have a stand but it's just dormant as seen with the flashback but I'm guessing that the Wall Eyes forcefully pulled it out from her. As for the bite marks. I think it will be explained in Part 9 but for now, my interpretation of it is that it is basically like the same way when you get wounded by the Stand Arrow. You get a wound only an arrow can give youso you get a stand. But why bite marks?, well I think it's because Kira Yoshikage is right below them and the Wall Eyes used his Dental Records as basis. But this is just my interpretation.
Can you make your stand's abilities stronger? Like Star platinum originally can stop time for 2 seconds then after defeat Dio he can stop time for 4 seconds
Some of them yes Since Dio actually train in one month to master he's time stopped ability with the world There also some way to get your stand even stronger example is soft and wet While some can't Exam is crazy diamond since crazy diamond ability can't get any strong since it's has some limits one of with it can't heal/restore the user erase object Or something that was broken a long time ago (exam is okuyasu father)
How to get a stand- 1. Get hit by the arrow and awaken your stand instantly or later on 2. Come in contact with any meteor material containing the alien virus or the saints corpse 3. Be a descendent or related to someone who already has a stand and has done the following ^^ That’s it - don’t understand why this was a video but okay.
4. Mastery of Craft could also give you a stand as seen with Tonio. This could also apply with both Jonathan and Joseph getting Hermit Purple since it's a Hamon User's Stand though I'm partially agreeing with this cause DIO stuff happened that forced them to awake it. Gyro awakening Ball Breaker by perfecting his Steel Ball technique
The requiem arrow is a higher dosage of the normal one kiras stand is still considered a requiem stand but not a fully completed one kira got a normal dosage of the arrow so his stand got a lower power up
A common theory that might have merit but this has never been confirmed as the case. There's a couple theories out there that say the Requiem arrow doesn't exist and any arrow can achieve Requiem. The beetle arrow was just for plot distinction, though there is no way to know for sure
That is a theory but one I disagree with, as someone else mentioned, the size and amount does not really matter as Jolene got her stand from a minor nick, as well as the fact that Kira himself was pierced not his stand
I always felt like Ball Breaker was just a version of “gaining a stand by mastering a skill” like Tonio in part 4. Jonathan and Joseph both gained Hermit Purple (Jonathan’s isn’t directly called HP but it’s the same in looks and function) through mastery of Hamon (though they could not perceive it until Dio fully activated them), so I think it’s similar to this, where mastery of the same skill gives a stand similar in looks and abilities
Ball Breaker is the representation of the spin in form of a Stand, similar to how The Wonder of U is just a physical representation of calamity itself.
Basically you can see Ball Breaker as the stand of the steel balls more than the stand of Gyro
Counterargument. There is *one* way to get an additional stand on top of your existing one. Stand Discs. As shown in the final confrontation between Emporio and Pucci, Emporio was capable of combining the powers of Burning Down the House AND Weather Report to finally end the man. We have no idea if he KEPT Weather report after that, but. Hey. Dual wielding stands.
Which reminds me. Technically Anubis counts to that too, because he can possess a stand user and utilize their stand. Unorthodox, sure, but it IS two stands at once working in sync.
DIO also has access to two Stands, his (The World) and Jonathan's (Hermit Purple/The Passion).
@@jackmclean4120Jonathan dont have a stand 😭
@@Average_Noob His body did. Dio shows that he has a Hermit Purple-style Stand on top of The World, which is a result of using Jonathan's body.
Very informative video. But I have one thing to say. The infinite rotation is an ability only Johnny has. Gyro is using spin normally. While Johnny is using it through his stand. Any none stand user who would've used the super spin would get ball breaker. Honestly gyros ability probably would've been different if kept stand scan.
Makes sense, the infinite rotation is pretty much only shown with Tusk. Same reason why the Go Beyond bubbles are exclusive to Josuke
Ball breaker is a stand that manifested because of the energy of the spin, other users would have different stands that basically do the same thing, Gyro could have made a infinite spin shot if his steel ball was perfect
I always wondered if Bites the Dust was a Requiem stand. The arrow that stabbed Kira not a requiem arrow though
I think it’s an early version of a requiem stand before Araki fully formed the idea
If the arrow is used on the user -> new ability. If used on the stand -> requiem. Thats just my personal opinion though.
@@alterX-on yes i think its that
@@alterX-on ironically this means Giorno in retrospect against Black Sabbath was acting like a child not eating his veggies, he could have gotten a new ability.
@@Luigi_Main3752 Perhaps at the moment he wasn't worthy, afterall it was really early, when he only recently started making a push to reach his goals
There are actually some ways to have multiple stands. One way is to have a substand such as SHA or Epitaph. While not actually a standalone stand I think they can be counted as separate. Then you can have one of Pucci’s discs inserted into you, assuming you’re a stand user, you’ll have multiple stands like we saw with emporio.
No those are substands they are separate abilities bound to the main stand they are there own category
You can also get stands by mastering a special skill like Tonio Trussardi
There’s a chance he was born with it or came into contact with the virus at some point from what we can tell there are a lot of stand users that we have no idea about and stands are generational I mean the arrows were made thousands of years ago it makes it would make sense if family lines contracted the virus and started to produce stand users just look at dio’s kids or Holly and Jotaro
I just found it weird how Jolene wasn’t born with one but she needed a piece of the arrow that toucher I don’t know that’s not something that bothered me. Why is that?
She had an increased chance of having a stand at birth due to Jotaro having one but I guess she just didn’t hit that jackpot
Cause DIO died
I’d say because Jolyne was born after dio died and when dio died the signal from Jonathan’s body disappeared meaning if any joestar was born after dios death they would need an arrow
im sure its because since jotaro didnt have one at birth then so would jolyne not have one at birth aswell
@@ryuken1212 jotaro had it at birth it’s just that it manifested later on
Boutta enjoy myself
Not in a weird way but like watching a good video
@@diverwerk don’t worry bro, I ain’t one to judge
You can get stands through Hamon also
Really? I can’t really think of any stands formed through this way
@@BUR404 In a data book or maybe the manga I don't remember but it listed the ways you can get stands, and it included Hamon and the mask. Also Joseph said that his stand evolved from Hamon.
It's hardly much of an evolution
Cool mystic sun powers to purple vine
@@theredguy4043 true
I believe (or wrongly remember) that Axl Ro got his stand, Civil War, due to the guilt he felt because of his actions
Love the video! Oh also, I have an idea for a video. Strongest jobro stand.
Nice, actually had a plan to do that
Depends if we're talking main Jobro or any Jobro, for main it's probably Sticky Fingers or Ball Breaker, for any it's probably Weather Report
Some things you misunderstood or didn’t mention:
- “stand users hit with an arrow are unaffected”. Tell that to Kira.
- Because Jolyne wasn’t born yet, she is the only joestar who didn’t get a stand from DIO.
- All stand arrows work as requiem arrows. For requiem, the stand must be stabbed, not the user.
D4C doesn’t just send attacks to the other side of the earth. One attack was sent to the Vietnam war which wouldn’t happen for another 60+ years within the time period steel ball run took place in.
@@BUR404 shiii my bad
POV: hey someone have stand here?
How does this help me stand?!
you said I was gonna be able to stand?!
what the heck is a stand!? I don't need a coat rack!
Ok Johnny, calm down
Is this a jojo reference
What if I stabbed myself with a stand arrow, inserted a disk, absorbed a corps part and fell into a wall eyes fault?
You’ll get one type of stand regardless. If you inserted a disk afterward, you’d just get rejected by the stand it contains
You have 5 arms dawg?
@@OlTimeyChara I won’t confirm or deny
You'd get a stand (or die), the disk would be rejected, you'd possibly get a stand evolution, then you'd bonk your head and not much would probably happen except a bad headache
@@BUR404 Emporio got weather report for a bit and still had access to his old stand
There is one more.
Part 4 drakes dream.
The dude was just so good at marshal arts that a stand spawned. The stand had free will but was connected to the man, so you can spawn a stand which is bound but not controlled by you by being really good at stuff.
If someone who already has a stand gets stabbed by the arrow, then they will gain a new ability like with killer queen.
Bro Forgot Spins and Ripple are being stated and confirm are step forward gaining a stands anyways as in Steel ball run Chapter which is like Joseph Joestar have his own stand in Part 2 before Part 3 we're araki interview himself confirm that Joseph joestar have hermit purple in part 2
Well at the end when he says one person can only have one stand is disproved by pucci gaining 3 stands
Also heavens door can disprove this
I mean, Pucci still have 1 stand. He just evolved it so I don't get your point.
Though I still agree that 1 person can have multiple stands. I'm guessing what they're meaning with "Can only have 1 stand" is that they can only USE 1 stand at a time and NOT USE 2 stands.
@@justinjunkatigbak4576if you still someone body you get there stand and your own I.e dio and if you have multiple personality disorder you get 2 cause in jojo that classified as different soul also if 1 personality dies the living one get both stands until he dies
@@Forsakenruler Yes that too. First case is DIO and second case is Diavolo.
Edit: Lol forgot to switch account
@@justforthings9996 you can also apparently evolve your stand to perfectly counter your enemies abilities given you have enough determination I.e star platinum the world and s&w go beyond also maybe tusk act 4
What about kira gaining other abilities from more arrow stabs? also great video.
Bitea The Dust seems to me like an early prototype for a requiem stand so I group Kira in with SCR and GER
ehhhhhhh, kira gets another stand from being stabbed by the arrow because plot, screw it
@@BUR404 what is the stand SCR?
Just realised it stand for the only other one requiem
If one person cant have two stands, then how did emporio get both weather report and burning down the house. Is SHA a stand or an ability
now we're asking the REAL questions
Fir the stand disk. Jolyne could also use SP after inserting it into her head but since it's too strong it immediately ejected from her. So from this, I'm guessing that on how long the stand disk gets inserted to you depends on how compatible you are to it. It's still possible to use the moves but for a limited time only before it ejects.
And SHA is an ability. it's a substand. Just like King Crimson's Epitaph which is his little pimple face on his forehead that has the ability to allow him to view the next 10 seconds of the future.
Huh, I thought the wall eyes did give them the stands, always thought that Yasuho, Kira and Joshu had human-like bitemarks on their bodies since being near which unlocked their stands
I'm sure Yasuho already have a stand but it's just dormant as seen with the flashback but I'm guessing that the Wall Eyes forcefully pulled it out from her.
As for the bite marks. I think it will be explained in Part 9 but for now, my interpretation of it is that it is basically like the same way when you get wounded by the Stand Arrow. You get a wound only an arrow can give youso you get a stand. But why bite marks?, well I think it's because Kira Yoshikage is right below them and the Wall Eyes used his Dental Records as basis.
But this is just my interpretation.
I thought stands were real until now😢
i like how it goes from
Ancient arrow made from a meteorite to JESUS to get a stand
Can you make your stand's abilities stronger? Like Star platinum originally can stop time for 2 seconds then after defeat Dio he can stop time for 4 seconds
Some of them yes
Since Dio actually train in one month to master he's time stopped ability with the world
There also some way to get your stand even stronger example is soft and wet
While some can't
Exam is crazy diamond
since crazy diamond ability can't get any strong since it's has some limits one of with it can't heal/restore the user erase object Or something that was broken a long time ago (exam is okuyasu father)
How to get a stand-
1. Get hit by the arrow and awaken your stand instantly or later on
2. Come in contact with any meteor material containing the alien virus or the saints corpse
3. Be a descendent or related to someone who already has a stand and has done the following ^^
That’s it - don’t understand why this was a video but okay.
4. Mastery of Craft could also give you a stand as seen with Tonio. This could also apply with both Jonathan and Joseph getting Hermit Purple since it's a Hamon User's Stand though I'm partially agreeing with this cause DIO stuff happened that forced them to awake it. Gyro awakening Ball Breaker by perfecting his Steel Ball technique
so the most painless version is by absorbing a saints corpse ?
Hamon Ultimate Life Form All The Way!!!!!!!!!
You forgot that you can evolve your stand with the combination of special items
The requiem arrow is a higher dosage of the normal one kiras stand is still considered a requiem stand but not a fully completed one kira got a normal dosage of the arrow so his stand got a lower power up
A common theory that might have merit but this has never been confirmed as the case. There's a couple theories out there that say the Requiem arrow doesn't exist and any arrow can achieve Requiem. The beetle arrow was just for plot distinction, though there is no way to know for sure
That is a theory but one I disagree with, as someone else mentioned, the size and amount does not really matter as Jolene got her stand from a minor nick, as well as the fact that Kira himself was pierced not his stand
He doesn't have a Requiem, Araki said. Plus that was a stand user who got stabbed
wrong stands are real
Can you prove it
My man said stands dont exist gets a instand 👎 from me
Yeah they dont exit f this
number 15
Yeh stands aren't reall
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