and i think, too, that i can say, that in my years of heisting life, that i welcome this kind of examination, because people have got to know, whether or not their heister's a crook. well i'm not a crook, *i've actually dodged something with every point of dodge i've got*
Crook and Ball torture, from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Crook and Ball Torture (CBT) is a gaming activity involving application of pain and irreversable damage to the player's mind. This may involve directly painful activities, such as LBV Anarchist, ICTV Rogue, Goat Sim Pub, Single Pistol Builds and Stealth Pub.
@@stormtrooper1696 not being suit which is just straight up better than having armor for anarchist. However, it does have merits of being able to get 3 shot armor with the trade being your armor gating is gutted a bit, most notably that 2 sec invuln that guarantees an armor regen always save from one shot with suit now has 1 second where you are vulnerable from getting downed if you don't shoot someone during your invuln.
Thanks, now I can brainlessly copy one of those builds, pretending to be good cause it's not b33croft's build, but still get downed 74837373 times telling myself that DS is just so hard. (That actually was my mindset when i found your channel lol). I hope that your other viewers don't have this problem. PS. the 5th build is nuts
To be fair, there's something there. If you look at my builds the way you look at b33croft's, you're going to play terribly lol. The purpose of his builds are to copy and not ask questions, the purpose of mine is to give ideas as to what can be done.
@@CarrotIsBad Yeah, many people I know will just think that your builds are brainless win because you criticized b33croft, some kind of cognitive bias ig. This may lead to even more overconfidence. But hey, maybe they'll learn.
@@LukasQueen He had some good vids actually, but why put so much effort in them if they're desinformative and people still watch them without any complaints. But what do I care, I'm not THE POLICE FOR NEW PLAYERS.
@@szwegran123 His videos premoted bad playstyles and skill optimisation, with most of his builds relying on shotguns. He didn't try to make them bad, he just refused to change. For example he constantly would say quickfix was better then painkillers for DS, then take doc bags and inspire. New players can watch who they want, but a new player shouldn't use his builds as a guide on how to play or make DS builds. Also if I have to hear him go "holy shit" one more time I might actually have a stroke.
this is good and dandy, until you get screwed by a sniper's slightly higher damage than heavies, nuking a 99% frenzy boost setup in a very unlucky play
a vert easy fix for crook would be to reduce the negative dodge stat armor gives when playing crook, not too broken of a buff and really helps all the armor with dodge
My way of making crook work is all-inning on the fugitive theming (OK maybe no messiah/swan song shenanigans): Triple pistols and Frenzy aced. I go for stryks and 5/7. You can get stryks to 41.8 pretty nice and the 5/7 is the 5/7. You're spending a lot of points to have no jokers etc but you get the 2 shot protection, you've only spec'd into 1 gun class so you can spend points on getting the armor stats where you want, etc. OFC it uses HBV because sadly the others suck. But honestly, 2 shot heavy + dodge + decent move speed and stamina is a solid combo, combined with a sub-1sec armor recov with shock and awe and resilience and you get a lot peek and short dash potential.
Buff idea for crook: Give it an armor & dodge boost depending on what ballistic vest you’re wearing ALONGSIDE what crook already does. Just as an example of this idea: Light ballistic vest: +20 dodge and +20 armor Ballistic vest: +15 dodge and +50 armor Heavy ballistic vest: +10 dodge and +80 armor
Crook is an actually functional deck on console since console has 30 extra armor so every deck in the game can have 2 shot ictv. Crook with hbv on console has 2 shot armor without frenzy and the Dodge has saved me several times
Is there a reason for bullseye aced for build 4? Because if it's just to reach iron man you could 1) get transporter aced instead of bullseye aced or 2) get resilience aced and shock and awe basic. The differences aren't much but it is something.
I have created my own build based on the crook and the ball torture, which is a kind of anarchist a little weakened with a little doge, 35, plus the raven with ap ammo gives you 6 points that you use for the unbalance of the shields and that the flashbangs last a fucking year if a pain in the ass, and instead of the specs ops I use the heather and get to 4 concealment, and with slippery bastard I get the maximum dodge minus the vest penalty.
@@criffincs the breakpoint for 1 light HS + 2 heavy HS (?) is 128. the deagle has like, 127, so people normally take a flash hider to boost its damage over the breakpoint. however, silencers don't add damage, so that's maybe y people get salty over silenced deagles. it's prolly seen as choosing style over function author's note: i don't play this game anymore so take it with a grain of salt
Maybe you're playing bad maps layouts with it?? I always loved playing crook with hostage taker not aced on hoxton breakout day 2, but I'm not DS player at all so that may be the case.
and i think, too, that i can say, that in my years of heisting life, that i welcome this kind of examination, because people have got to know, whether or not their heister's a crook.
well i'm not a crook, *i've actually dodged something with every point of dodge i've got*
Crook and Ball torture, from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Crook and Ball Torture (CBT) is a gaming activity involving application of pain and irreversable damage to the player's mind. This may involve directly painful activities, such as LBV Anarchist, ICTV Rogue, Goat Sim Pub, Single Pistol Builds and Stealth Pub.
What's painful about lbv anarchist?
@@stormtrooper1696 watch the anarchist video or carrots review of the best build 2020
@@stormtrooper1696 not being suit which is just straight up better than having armor for anarchist. However, it does have merits of being able to get 3 shot armor with the trade being your armor gating is gutted a bit, most notably that 2 sec invuln that guarantees an armor regen always save from one shot with suit now has 1 second where you are vulnerable from getting downed if you don't shoot someone during your invuln.
You guys dont use LBV anarchist?
i liked using crook because i liked the look of light ballistic vest
Thanks, now I can brainlessly copy one of those builds, pretending to be good cause it's not b33croft's build, but still get downed 74837373 times telling myself that DS is just so hard. (That actually was my mindset when i found your channel lol). I hope that your other viewers don't have this problem. PS. the 5th build is nuts
To be fair, there's something there. If you look at my builds the way you look at b33croft's, you're going to play terribly lol. The purpose of his builds are to copy and not ask questions, the purpose of mine is to give ideas as to what can be done.
@@CarrotIsBad Yeah, many people I know will just think that your builds are brainless win because you criticized b33croft, some kind of cognitive bias ig. This may lead to even more overconfidence. But hey, maybe they'll learn.
@@szwegran123 Dude hasn't uploaded in 9 months (thank god), only names I see nowdays when it comes to good builds is Kevkild and Carrot.
@@LukasQueen He had some good vids actually, but why put so much effort in them if they're desinformative and people still watch them without any complaints. But what do I care, I'm not THE POLICE FOR NEW PLAYERS.
@@szwegran123 His videos premoted bad playstyles and skill optimisation, with most of his builds relying on shotguns.
He didn't try to make them bad, he just refused to change.
For example he constantly would say quickfix was better then painkillers for DS, then take doc bags and inspire.
New players can watch who they want, but a new player shouldn't use his builds as a guide on how to play or make DS builds.
Also if I have to hear him go "holy shit" one more time I might actually have a stroke.
When I discovered that HBV Crook can tank 2 shots with Frenzy aced, I felt like a mad genius lmao
this is good and dandy, until you get screwed by a sniper's slightly higher damage than heavies, nuking a 99% frenzy boost setup in a very unlucky play
Me when i realised crook has a consistent 100% zerk setup
@@mementocity just dodge the sniper shot 4head
a vert easy fix for crook would be to reduce the negative dodge stat armor gives when playing crook, not too broken of a buff and really helps all the armor with dodge
"Giving more dodge is a pretty rubbish way to buff a deck" -TheKknowley
@@MyUsersDark also carrot. Carrot has also said that
Every heister is a crook, but not every crook is a heister.
my review of 5 dsod crook builds
- no world’s hardest game music (0/10)
- sick fak drop (10/10)
Crook happens to be my second favourite perkdeck, the first being Infiltrator, so i will be enjoying this video
Worst builds for worst perk deck great job
tbh carrot should just show ur builds niko, ur literally THE CROOK god
@@houstilicious i agree my builds are worse i was the one who should've done this video
ex pres with armor
Loud Yakuza
Crook is definetely not the worst
crook. truly the perk deck in payday. thank you for this vidjeo orange man
My way of making crook work is all-inning on the fugitive theming (OK maybe no messiah/swan song shenanigans): Triple pistols and Frenzy aced. I go for stryks and 5/7. You can get stryks to 41.8 pretty nice and the 5/7 is the 5/7. You're spending a lot of points to have no jokers etc but you get the 2 shot protection, you've only spec'd into 1 gun class so you can spend points on getting the armor stats where you want, etc. OFC it uses HBV because sadly the others suck. But honestly, 2 shot heavy + dodge + decent move speed and stamina is a solid combo, combined with a sub-1sec armor recov with shock and awe and resilience and you get a lot peek and short dash potential.
these videos help so much thx for making them Carrot.
Buff idea for crook:
Give it an armor & dodge boost depending on what ballistic vest you’re wearing ALONGSIDE what crook already does. Just as an example of this idea:
Light ballistic vest: +20 dodge and +20 armor
Ballistic vest: +15 dodge and +50 armor
Heavy ballistic vest: +10 dodge and +80 armor
How good would Crook be if it had Sicario's Agility Shield (replenish all of your armor when you dodge)?
Finally another silenced deagle enjoyer
dude keep making videos like these ily
Crook is an actually functional deck on console since console has 30 extra armor so every deck in the game can have 2 shot ictv. Crook with hbv on console has 2 shot armor without frenzy and the Dodge has saved me several times
So who crook stole our physics part of this video?
this perk deck goes hard
read this on april first of 2029
If the internet doesn't get shut down by the FBI at that point, I will
I can confirm that this is indeed not the crook video
It is not most certainly
If you wanted to waste points for crits in deagle build you could ace low blow on top of oi and ip ace
Crook is KING on overkill!! you can push everything and be braindead.
even mayhem if you’re good enough
Is there a reason for bullseye aced for build 4? Because if it's just to reach iron man you could 1) get transporter aced instead of bullseye aced or 2) get resilience aced and shock and awe basic. The differences aren't much but it is something.
Just point efficiency. You could go for a different buildup, but it would cost more.
any clue if hbv w/ironman basic can tank a heavy zeal shot with the CC's buffs?
crook enthusiast approved
I have an odd feeling that you like the Spec Ops SMG after watching you for awhile.
It is a possibility
do you have any updated builds for anarchist deck?
I have created my own build based on the crook and the ball torture, which is a kind of anarchist a little weakened with a little doge, 35, plus the raven with ap ammo gives you 6 points that you use for the unbalance of the shields and that the flashbangs last a fucking year if a pain in the ass, and instead of the specs ops I use the heather and get to 4 concealment, and with slippery bastard I get the maximum dodge minus the vest penalty.
I must be dreaming, crook isn't real
in 1st build HBV or BV?
REAL CROOK VIDEO
How can crook be real if our eyes aren’t real?
@@CarrotIsBad good question, and a philosophical one too
no it isn't
ppl complain about silenced deagles? i like the combat medic skin and the monolith suppressor is part of it
edit: oh prolly cus 125 dmg, whatever
Can you elaborate what you meant about 125 damage
@@criffincs the breakpoint for 1 light HS + 2 heavy HS (?) is 128. the deagle has like, 127, so people normally take a flash hider to boost its damage over the breakpoint. however, silencers don't add damage, so that's maybe y people get salty over silenced deagles. it's prolly seen as choosing style over function
author's note: i don't play this game anymore so take it with a grain of salt
@@stevie8271 yeah you right but why not just use the five seven
@@criffincs style/variety prolly, i think that's why carrot said he took it but i dunno
@@stevie8271 if the deagle had a better fire rate it could be considerable
Ah yes, crook. Something worst than the sum of its parts
Crook (it’s a joke because we’re criminals)
Silent Deagle best Deagle
needs more parkour
Bro forgot to add infiltrator to the playlist
oops, fixed
On paper crook sounds op but in game it fails ALL the time
Maybe you're playing bad maps layouts with it?? I always loved playing crook with hostage taker not aced on hoxton breakout day 2, but I'm not DS player at all so that may be the case.
@@WafelixRox i tried it on death wish
Just buff it's dodge and lock it to hbv
I am a console player and too afraid to use any of those builds. Performance issues made me die even with Stoic. But that's just skill issue
Why do I still die when I use the load out
This video made me want to play payday 2 again so that's what I did tonight.
Endless pain and suffering.
Basically, you’re welcome
@@CarrotIsBad still gonna play it more because payday 2 is like an unhealthy addiction