I switched to 85 from 100 years ago. You make some good points about higher flex and have me considering a change... or mayne I'm just trying to justify a hockey stick habit...
I have no ground to stand on in terms of trying to stop you from starting this habit LOL but if you are looking for ease of use stick to the 85, if you want to get the most out of your shot use the 100
Thanks for your videos, keep them coming. I think shooting style, strength, position and preference in puck feel are the key factors. I prefer whippier sticks for shooting and puck handling but find them too soft for puck battles on the boards when bigger guys lean on me. So I try to find a good middle ground. That's probably what most players do.
there's a reason most sticks on the shelf are 85. most people are 85's. a few guys like stiffer, a few flexier, but the average senior player is pretty much right there.
I ran my own personal test with 95, 85, 75. I'm normally a 95 guy. I saw a 2 mph drop on clappers from each flex I went down. I didn't check velos on snap shots cause I find them a bit more inconsistent. But it is noticeably easier to pop off snaps with less effort as you go down in flex
Hey man love the Channel! Where you cut your sticks typically (off skates) or on skates doesn’t matter just looking for reference. Chin , lips , nose? Looks like around lip level in the video but always hard to tell
Great video. Quick question, if I extend a 75 by an inch does it make it softer? Or, should I just buy the 85 and cut some off. And will that now be stiffer? Thx
I use 80 flex at 170. Can get a lot out of my shots but it takes a lot more effort. At stick time my arms get worn out and can’t get the puck in the air. Thinking about getting a 70 flex but I’ll have to cut down stick height so idk. Hockey gear is a game itself
I’m trying a 65 flex this week been using a 77 flex for about 10 years tried a 70 liked it. Now that they’re doing 65/67 flex sticks in senior length I wanted to try it out. I’m 6’ 145 lbs (yes I’m aware I’m a twig)
Me and my buddy both get 85 flex twigs and cut them down to the same height which gets them down to ab 93 which is perfect for me and him even though we are completely different builds (I’m 6’6 195 on skates he like 5’11 140 on skates) My next question is about the pro zegras curve. We both use a p28, have forever but after seeing your last vid im thinkin ab getting him a zegras curve, how much difference does it make?
I personally like the zegras more than the p28, it feels a little easier to control and and you get the blade shape of the p92 which I prefer, after using it for 15 mins you’ll be used to it. Not much of a learning curve at all!
body weight has ZERO to do with what flex you should use. Shooting style and strength are what matters. Burms is 230 pounds using a 130 flex stick, for example. He's freakishly strong! But, by the "half your weight" rule he should be using a 115 flex stick. His body weight doesn't help him flex his stick, though. His shooting style and upper body strength does. We need to move past the "half your body weight" mantra, and start understanding better how flex can be used as a tool to improve our shots.
I’m 150 lbs and have my best shots with 80-90 flex. Tried my buddies stick and he uses 65 flex and hated how it felt, puck felt heavy and weird to stick handle with.
@ yea I think different stick manufacturers and kickpoint etc play a big part, l have a Sher-Wood code tmp 75 flex and it feels stiffer than my warrior 75 flex. I’m a huge stick whore tho so I’m always trying out new stuff 😂
I switched to 85 from 100 years ago. You make some good points about higher flex and have me considering a change... or mayne I'm just trying to justify a hockey stick habit...
I have no ground to stand on in terms of trying to stop you from starting this habit LOL but if you are looking for ease of use stick to the 85, if you want to get the most out of your shot use the 100
Thanks for your videos, keep them coming. I think shooting style, strength, position and preference in puck feel are the key factors. I prefer whippier sticks for shooting and puck handling but find them too soft for puck battles on the boards when bigger guys lean on me.
So I try to find a good middle ground. That's probably what most players do.
I find that the lighter the flex the heavier the puck feels when stickhandling if that makes sense but yes going in the middle is a safe bet!
there's a reason most sticks on the shelf are 85. most people are 85's. a few guys like stiffer, a few flexier, but the average senior player is pretty much right there.
It’s the perfect halfway point for most adults
Great video!
Thank you!
Bit extreme on the flex range, would have been more interesting to compare say 75 vs 85 vs 95 if you normally use 85
I had to go a bit extreme on the flex range in order to feed into the half your weight cliche, 85 is the absolute whippiest I could go on a stick lol
I ran my own personal test with 95, 85, 75. I'm normally a 95 guy. I saw a 2 mph drop on clappers from each flex I went down. I didn't check velos on snap shots cause I find them a bit more inconsistent. But it is noticeably easier to pop off snaps with less effort as you go down in flex
It is way easier with the softer flex but you do miss out on some of that power
Hey man love the Channel! Where you cut your sticks typically (off skates) or on skates doesn’t matter just looking for reference. Chin , lips , nose? Looks like around lip level in the video but always hard to tell
Thank you! I typically like it at my nose off skates but depends on the lie of the stick!
I think this is just a good example that if you can shoot the puck well, the stick isn’t as important.! Best shots might be with the 100 flex man.
I agree with both parts and thank you!!
Great video. Quick question, if I extend a 75 by an inch does it make it softer? Or, should I just buy the 85 and cut some off. And will that now be stiffer? Thx
If you extend a 75 by an inch it will be a 72 flex roughly, for the 85 if you cut it, it will become stiffer
I use 80 flex at 170. Can get a lot out of my shots but it takes a lot more effort. At stick time my arms get worn out and can’t get the puck in the air. Thinking about getting a 70 flex but I’ll have to cut down stick height so idk. Hockey gear is a game itself
I’d definitely give a 70 a try, will be so much easier to use and yes it is the game within the game lol
Next stick I’ll get it, appreciate it
@@StickTalk8 btw your videos are great. Not a lot of deep dive info on hockey sticks/gear online. Definitely a much needed channel
Thank you I really appreciate it
I kinda follow what a lot of the nhlers do which is 100lbs over the flex number as an adult. How much do u weigh approximately
I’d have to be using a flex they don’t make LOL
I’m trying a 65 flex this week been using a 77 flex for about 10 years tried a 70 liked it. Now that they’re doing 65/67 flex sticks in senior length I wanted to try it out. I’m 6’ 145 lbs (yes I’m aware I’m a twig)
@@ForeParfection bro I swear that's not healthy I'm 170lbs at 5'7
Honestly ya your best bet is to get an extended height 65, should be super easy and fun to use!
Me and my buddy both get 85 flex twigs and cut them down to the same height which gets them down to ab 93 which is perfect for me and him even though we are completely different builds (I’m 6’6 195 on skates he like 5’11 140 on skates)
My next question is about the pro zegras curve. We both use a p28, have forever but after seeing your last vid im thinkin ab getting him a zegras curve, how much difference does it make?
I personally like the zegras more than the p28, it feels a little easier to control and and you get the blade shape of the p92 which I prefer, after using it for 15 mins you’ll be used to it. Not much of a learning curve at all!
body weight has ZERO to do with what flex you should use. Shooting style and strength are what matters. Burms is 230 pounds using a 130 flex stick, for example. He's freakishly strong! But, by the "half your weight" rule he should be using a 115 flex stick. His body weight doesn't help him flex his stick, though. His shooting style and upper body strength does.
We need to move past the "half your body weight" mantra, and start understanding better how flex can be used as a tool to improve our shots.
That was the reason behind why I made the video!
@@StickTalk8 yep! We need more videos like this!!!
I’m going to do my best to keep them coming!
You ought to try a 70 as well.
I’ve tried in the past and honestly it’s way too whippy for me
I’m 150 lbs and have my best shots with 80-90 flex. Tried my buddies stick and he uses 65 flex and hated how it felt, puck felt heavy and weird to stick handle with.
I feel the same about whippy sticks but yes it is definitely personal preference
Same I am similar weight and use an 87 flex. Tried a 65 and it was way too whippy. Thinking about trying a 75 flex though.
@ yea I think different stick manufacturers and kickpoint etc play a big part, l have a Sher-Wood code tmp 75 flex and it feels stiffer than my warrior 75 flex. I’m a huge stick whore tho so I’m always trying out new stuff 😂
I’m planning on doing a vid on kickpoints to see if they really make a difference
@ hell yea
If you cut the stick it will change the flex
Usually it’s 3 flex for every inch you cut off so if you start with an 85 and cut one inch off it becomes an 88 flex
You just get less leverage over the stick so it makes it more difficult to flex