Nah the STG is definitely good but when you hit a couple of shots to the legs the TTK drops down significantly unlike the MCW which is more consistent across the body.
I've been using the MCW Raven kit as my secondary gun for several months now. Second Line Mammoth Heavy barrel, XRK Handstop, 40 rd mag, and Spectre Microtherm optic. Can't stand the iron sights, and the thermal is great. I've also never understood this mentality of trying to cut down sprint to fire time. Why would you even be entering into firefights while sprinting unless you're hip firing within 5m? That's not general use enough to matter, and especially not for a non-smg. Just ADS and enjoy the 600ms TTK out to 23m and good ADS movement speed with this build, simple as.
Wow I’m sorry but I have to tell you the truth please don’t get upset but I hit the like button this is what I was looking for thank you a lot of my weapons now I improved because I’m watching these videos keep up the good work hand clap hands clap
Does metagen take into account Firing Aim Stability and Idle Aim Sway? These two stats especially the former are very important when considering meta guns :)
You should consider using the no stock attachment on the superi instead of that grip, it's hella fun, and the recoil isn't really bad, because of the suppressor
Hey Tony, love your work as always. However, I THINK I've found a slight error with one of your data points (which may well have been sorted out soon anyway in light of the Superi nerf). But SH Games have said they've removed the Superi mid-range damage range so "min damage will now occur at 25.4m instead of 34.3m". Using the TGD comparison tool (amazing tool) ... the Superi mid-damage range shows on the graph at 31.5m instead of 25.4m (25.5m). Cheers bud. 👍 EDIT: I now realise it's only when selecting upper-arm chest. I might be totally mistaken about this whole thing if upper arm and chest only have different damage drop offs. I'm sure you will know the sketch 🙈
All smgs should have that. Hitting at least one headshot reduces ttk. Mw2 smgs in need of that and a bump to close range damage and their multipliers. Or just bump all mw2 damage multipliers around the chest, arm, and lower torso.
The MCW wins me so many fights because of its extended range and I'm not a movement God so I do not care as much about the movement. Only problem is in quads
I won’t be giving up my 46 just yet, the movement speed is just too good, and it’s ttk out to 25 metres is good enough 😉 I run the 20 mag as well has a 2sec reload
How come when I run just fastest TTK in custom stat weight and then I put those same guns in the comparison tool, your #1 on metagen isn’t fastest TTK in comparison tool.
He explains in the video, some guns have slightly better ttk, but they didn't actually come out on top because they also have some caveats. Like, the STG has a faster chest ttk than the 3 top smgs of the video, but it has a terrible damage drop off when hitting the legs and its way slower in every comparable way, so this is why it isn't a meta close range gun.
I still think the superi is just so much better than the static. Ttk is still faster and the movement is absolutely insane. Add in 1 headshot and static is better but the movement is still so much better on superi and that is huge
@@Drake23x23the chest ttk is, if you start taking averages the static may be better. With 1 headshot the static is better, with 2 the superi is better. You’d need 4 headshots for the static to overtake again, which is not common. Static is more forgiving with lower body as well
@JGROVES716. I understand that, but my initial statement was I can't run that grip and stock together like it's showing on metagen in the video, not underbarrel
Hey i commeneted on ur last vid dude The site and app are still bugged When adding a gun or attachment they arent included in the ttk chart until i refresh the site or close app ive tried on multiple computers and even re-downloaded it What itll show is just one gun instead of all guns on the ttk chart
Honestly I don’t like your superi build I go full tac sprint speed with rescue 9 stock and bore 99 barrel then I use the paracord grip and either zhen or quartermaster and its been a killer build I dropped 33 the other night
Let’s be real here mate. The new SMG is the no1 due to being on the battle pass & activision take peoples money just to get it then nerf it. They’re scum. Such a shame there can’t be numerous competitive SMGs and ARs like verdansk days. It’s so boring now every battle pass it’s one AR and 1 SMG meta
There are no stats up for MP, yet this why I stopped paying for the subscription. Your stats are never updated, and if they are, they are still wrong 😂
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The Spry 34 Light Stock doesn't allow rear grips to be fitted.
Exactly what I came here to say
Lachman shroud tac stance build is pretty insane:
- Barrel: 114mm Darkstar
- Laser: Kimura RYL33 Laser
- Stock: LM Stockless Mod
- Magazine: 40 / 50 round mag (prefer 40)
- Conversion Kit: JAK Decimator
I agree 👍
1st game with it, got a dub. Thanks!
Akimbo WSP Stinger and the pump shotties are also really good options for close range, can't extend their fights though
stg built as an smg is a better mcw.
definitely agree 40 round on wsp9 is more than enough for any mode you're in.
Was about to say the same thing
Nah the STG is definitely good but when you hit a couple of shots to the legs the TTK drops down significantly unlike the MCW which is more consistent across the body.
@@derrickforer5256 nah the mcw is more consistent with all hotboxes. I love the mwc the TTK is so good no matter where you hit
@@YonkoRedShanks good point!
I've been using the MCW Raven kit as my secondary gun for several months now. Second Line Mammoth Heavy barrel, XRK Handstop, 40 rd mag, and Spectre Microtherm optic. Can't stand the iron sights, and the thermal is great. I've also never understood this mentality of trying to cut down sprint to fire time. Why would you even be entering into firefights while sprinting unless you're hip firing within 5m? That's not general use enough to matter, and especially not for a non-smg. Just ADS and enjoy the 600ms TTK out to 23m and good ADS movement speed with this build, simple as.
Love it when Kristina gets a shoutout in the vids! We love IAmGamerGrille! Thanks for all the hard work Tony and Kristina!
Wow I’m sorry but I have to tell you the truth please don’t get upset but I hit the like button this is what I was looking for thank you a lot of my weapons now I improved because I’m watching these videos keep up the good work hand clap hands clap
Thank you Tony!!
WHAT ABOUT THE LACMAN SHROUD WITH THE CONVERSION KIT ?? Are these better than that ?? Thanks for your videos much appreciated
Does metagen take into account Firing Aim Stability and Idle Aim Sway? These two stats especially the former are very important when considering meta guns :)
he mentioned in the last video that they are not currently included, but he is working on adding it!
the far range meta is even crazier i found out the taq eradicator is good again
Nice. I read the patch notes too
You should consider using the no stock attachment on the superi instead of that grip, it's hella fun, and the recoil isn't really bad, because of the suppressor
Thank you as always Big Tony ! IM ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE YOUR NEW VIDS
Sorry but on the Static if i use Stock Spry 34 is not possible to use the Rear grip
That's what I noticed after checking
I recommend making certain attachments that are universally “Meta” be on the top of every attachment list.
Something about wsp9 just feels like it looks so fast. Even here when he shoots the closest target you can see and n compare it to others
Hey Tony, love your work as always. However, I THINK I've found a slight error with one of your data points (which may well have been sorted out soon anyway in light of the Superi nerf). But SH Games have said they've removed the Superi mid-range damage range so "min damage will now occur at 25.4m instead of 34.3m". Using the TGD comparison tool (amazing tool) ... the Superi mid-damage range shows on the graph at 31.5m instead of 25.4m (25.5m). Cheers bud. 👍
EDIT: I now realise it's only when selecting upper-arm chest. I might be totally mistaken about this whole thing if upper arm and chest only have different damage drop offs. I'm sure you will know the sketch 🙈
WSP Stinger Akimbo can have 440ms up to 16m. Should be included imo.
Nice, great timing
Last time you were in my lobby I gave you the HAWK TUAH!!!
I've been rocking the MCW Jak Raven for weeks and it's done well for me. I've also gotten pretty good with it. I just hate the way it sounds lol
Can u do what u do for division 2
All smgs should have that. Hitting at least one headshot reduces ttk. Mw2 smgs in need of that and a bump to close range damage and their multipliers. Or just bump all mw2 damage multipliers around the chest, arm, and lower torso.
The MCW wins me so many fights because of its extended range and I'm not a movement God so I do not care as much about the movement. Only problem is in quads
THE AKIMBO PISTOL WSP STINGER IT'S VERY BROKEN , 480 MS !
u can't hitting anything at 480
I won’t be giving up my 46 just yet, the movement speed is just too good, and it’s ttk out to 25 metres is good enough 😉 I run the 20 mag as well has a 2sec reload
why not kimura ryl33 laser for tac stance build? it's -21% tac stance spread and improves ADS and sprint to fire speeds
Love you Tony!!!
Stock doesn't allow rear grip. Surprised he hasn't updated this yet.
not all of them are restricted. i thought this too when unlocking and leveling
You can’t use a rear grip with that stock on static so that doesn’t make sense
No reclaimer 18 even though it kills the fastest
Or akimbo stingers 480 ttk
Are you not a fan of the akimbo stingers? I know they're not very reliable past 10m but they've been very competitive for multiple seasons now.
Could lachmann shroud be good in tactical stance? Spread is tight and it fixes sprint out and ads times
I just wish you didn't have to switch it to tac stance. I.e. be able to toggle Tac Stance start in the load out screen.
@TrueGameData question why are your builds different than the Meta ratings builds?
Did you run the mw2 guns too?
Why is the Striker and ARM9 so slept on?
Because they suck and don’t come close to the other options
Thanks!
Tony, can you please stop your app from logging out on iPhone all the time. Thanks
Please
You cant have the light stock on with a rear grip on the static hv
How come when I run just fastest TTK in custom stat weight and then I put those same guns in the comparison tool, your #1 on metagen isn’t fastest TTK in comparison tool.
He explains in the video, some guns have slightly better ttk, but they didn't actually come out on top because they also have some caveats. Like, the STG has a faster chest ttk than the 3 top smgs of the video, but it has a terrible damage drop off when hitting the legs and its way slower in every comparable way, so this is why it isn't a meta close range gun.
What about the reclaimer 18?
Wish you’d show all the buffs and nerfs of guns like you used too not just “meta guns”
GG’s
I still think the superi is just so much better than the static. Ttk is still faster and the movement is absolutely insane. Add in 1 headshot and static is better but the movement is still so much better on superi and that is huge
static with short barrel and the movement speed stock gets your tac sprint to 7.7 m/s. sure still slower but really fast aswell
The ttk is not better actually..but you do you
@@Drake23x23What you smoking?
@@Drake23x23the chest ttk is, if you start taking averages the static may be better. With 1 headshot the static is better, with 2 the superi is better. You’d need 4 headshots for the static to overtake again, which is not common. Static is more forgiving with lower body as well
Bro clearly dosnt watch the whole video.
You should receive more credit for all this work.
The man
Superi will stay meta #1
Could you say about akimbo wsp swarm, extremely OP in LATAM server's, all people using.
Why would you use the akimbo swarm if the akimbo stingers are the best close range guns in the game?
Weird... Mine won't let me use that stock and a grip on the static
@JGROVES716. What does a barrel have to do with a grip and stock?
@JGROVES716. I understand that, but my initial statement was I can't run that grip and stock together like it's showing on metagen in the video, not underbarrel
Tony=Great guy, I wish he streamed as I'd subscribe and throw him a few pound.
Are you gonna add solos and duos to the squad size for meta gen?
Hey i commeneted on ur last vid dude
The site and app are still bugged
When adding a gun or attachment they arent included in the ttk chart until i refresh the site or close app ive tried on multiple computers and even re-downloaded it
What itll show is just one gun instead of all guns on the ttk chart
@@TrinityLinkq I bet the payment feature works fine 💀
@Big_boom90 well yeah 😂
Have you tried clicking or tapping the button that says “all weapons”
@@Big_boom90What an absolute L of a comment.
@@hobojoe9717 you're an L for worrying about what another man does. Get a life bucko
GALLO 12 AND STINGER AKIMBO IS BROKEN 😅😅😅😅
Nice bro
How about a stg44 smg😂
Superi built is a bit meh. Prefer the rescue stock and short barrell for the movement speed, and i flutter between high grain and phantom grip
first like and comment lmao - opened yt and it said uploaded 18 seconds ago
L O V E ❤
Honestly I don’t like your superi build I go full tac sprint speed with rescue 9 stock and bore 99 barrel then I use the paracord grip and either zhen or quartermaster and its been a killer build I dropped 33 the other night
For the algorithm
- It’s all about muscle memory and lighing fast reflex’s . Meta gen will you get you smoked .
one question. i dont like shotguns but why do you act like they dont exist and arent in the game ?
No love for the Stingers? Boooooo
Bro what's this? Wheres is the long range meta video? I appreciate all your videos but we still need long range meta pls!
Stg
@@byzbyz4237only?
@@kots1813 Yea at the moment it's pretty much only the STG. Hopefully it'll catch a nerf with season 5 reloaded.
yo
Hmm the AI you programmed agrees with you... Hmm suspish 🧐
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
First!
Lach shroud conv kit, no stock, 40rnd mag, darkstar barrel and kimura laser light, use in tac-stance….deletes folks…
Mid
Just change the kimura laser light for a non visible laser on tac stance
First
Let’s be real here mate. The new SMG is the no1 due to being on the battle pass & activision take peoples money just to get it then nerf it. They’re scum. Such a shame there can’t be numerous competitive SMGs and ARs like verdansk days. It’s so boring now every battle pass it’s one AR and 1 SMG meta
There are no stats up for MP, yet this why I stopped paying for the subscription. Your stats are never updated, and if they are, they are still wrong 😂
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@TrinityLinkq
hace 16 minutos
Hey i commeneted on ur last vid dude
The site and app are still bugged
When adding a gun or attachment they arent included in the ttk chart until i refresh the site or close app ive tried on multiple computers and even re-downloaded it
What itll show is just one gun instead of all guns on the ttk chart