I would just like to remind everyone commenting on these keyboards, that these are just samples, not synth brass. Both instruments will only sound as good as the samples loaded into their memory 😀
If you look at the sound engines the synths work with, I would never have thought that the Montage could keep up so well with brass sounds, and even sound better in some cases.
They both sound excellent, but the real key to the Montage is the Super-knob. The ability to easily move from a full ensemble to a solo instrument and back again is unique and really adds a lot of realism to a performance.
I am a Kronos guy but i recently messed with a montage and it does have some amazing sounds, there both great as for Kronos i need sampling power, but wouldnt mind having both.
In fairness, they're both sounding pretty capable to my ears. Thing is, when replicating acoustic sounds (especially with a hardware synth), authenticity is as much about the controller possibilities as it is about the actual sounds. A lot of the time I tend to use a whole load of controllers to actually devolve the sound to something less pristine (although on a Kurzweil, I've not played with either of these two in the flesh but the principal remains) whilst adding as much of the human element and instrument nuances as possible. Based on sound alone and assuming similar use of similar controllers, from this (and a few other comparative videos), I'd go out on a limb and say that Yamaha have the edge by a marginal degree.
When it comes to acoustics patches Yamaha will remain the fatter/richer sound. Korg just feels thin/metally. I like Korg's synth sounds though in some cases.
Montage won this but either could win based on which one has what sample (.wav) file and programmed pleasing. Soft-synths will often win. I own a Montage 8 and love a lot of Korg's synth sounds. Many are iconic and fantastic.
All these comparisons are good. But really, all this can be compared only when we hear the part in the mix. And then it becomes clear which is better. Moreover, both keyboards have extensive sound adjustment capabilities.
The Montage has the most exciting synth feature, but the overall output seems a little compressed, the Kronos seems to have more depth and dynamics. The Montage sounds more polished , a little too polished it sounds a bit flat.
Yamaha sounds sterile and Hi-Fi-like, that´s what I love when it comes to realism. But KORG managed to put some "dirt" into its sounds. For example the organs and the rhodes. I had Kronos X for some months to compare with my XF7.
Montage sounds realistic, whereas Kronos sounds more like a synth or sampler. And you didn't even show off the Superknob, which lets you seamlessly go from an ensemble to a solo instrument and back again. This adds enormously to realism and expression.
Montage definitely took this one. Some of the Kronos brass sounded either a tad worse than the Montage or just as good. Never did it sound better than any of the Montage's brass IMO. Not saying the Kronos brass is bad at all it just Montage 's was better. But montage is using the same samples from the Motif Xs/f.
These synths are now obsolete. You can buy much better orchestral sounds from people like spitfire audio and other orchestral sample makers, and you can tweak them for more expression too. But you do need a powerful computer to run them
I've watched more than 30 videos from these demos and people say; Yamaha is the better sounding keyboard but it seems to me this guy is either bias or he doesn't set up both pianos at the same volume and resonance or he connects the Kronos on cheaper speakers which don't reproduce the sound of the Kronos as it should be heard. I love yamahas but they are so overpriced, it is hard for me to spend an additional $2,000 when the Montage doesn't even come with a sequencer or even has the processing capabilities or the larger, more colorful screen of the Kronos. If I get to be able to create great music, I want to go back to my inspirational moments and be able to do improvements on it from sequences and recordings instead of trying to "remember" them faithfully, it just doesn't happen. And why, if the Kronos came out in 2011 with superior synthesizing technology that hasn't had the need to improve, except for the new upgrades to the X model which is basically the same albeit double the internal memory and the LS which has the better feel on the keys, basically the amazing 9 synth engines on the Kronos have remained the same and this was in 2011... the Montage took forever to match up to Kronos and its super expensive and no sequencer?!? So what if the Yamaha has a few degrees of tonality and arpeggiators that is hardly noticeable once you put everything together? Either you have Superman's ears to notice the slight difference or you grow accustomed to the Kronos's sound and won't mind the slight difference while you're having fun producing, recording and sequencing music... anyone agrees?
Será que a YAMAHA ajustou o ASSINGNABLE FUNCTION no BRASS após ver esse meu vídeo? Did YAMAHA adjust ASSINGNABLE FUNCTION on BRASS after watching my video? ua-cam.com/video/e-VYW2Oud-w/v-deo.html
yeah but there's a thing called DAW that every producer worth a damn use as the centerpiece for assembling musical ideas so having a weaker version of the same in the keyboard is redundant, and has been for a decade.
I would just like to remind everyone commenting on these keyboards, that these are just samples, not synth brass. Both instruments will only sound as good as the samples loaded into their memory 😀
If you look at the sound engines the synths work with, I would never have thought that the Montage could keep up so well with brass sounds, and even sound better in some cases.
What a lot of people don' know is that Korg and Yamaha share some of the same sound sets.
They both sound excellent, but the real key to the Montage is the Super-knob. The ability to easily move from a full ensemble to a solo instrument and back again is unique and really adds a lot of realism to a performance.
Does anyone know the patch on kronos on :35 seconds
Wow...the winner depends on the patch being played. Gave some to the Korg and some to the Yamaha. The default effect settings are also playing a role.
I am a Kronos guy but i recently messed with a montage and it does have some amazing sounds, there both great as for Kronos i need sampling power, but wouldnt mind having both.
Is the shake brass available on the korg krome ex
In fairness, they're both sounding pretty capable to my ears. Thing is, when replicating acoustic sounds (especially with a hardware synth), authenticity is as much about the controller possibilities as it is about the actual sounds. A lot of the time I tend to use a whole load of controllers to actually devolve the sound to something less pristine (although on a Kurzweil, I've not played with either of these two in the flesh but the principal remains) whilst adding as much of the human element and instrument nuances as possible.
Based on sound alone and assuming similar use of similar controllers, from this (and a few other comparative videos), I'd go out on a limb and say that Yamaha have the edge by a marginal degree.
When it comes to acoustics patches Yamaha will remain the fatter/richer sound. Korg just feels thin/metally. I like Korg's synth sounds though in some cases.
fUjiMaNia yes. I hate thin sounds. Yamaha and ROLAND are the best
Montage won this but either could win based on which one has what sample (.wav) file and programmed pleasing. Soft-synths will often win. I own a Montage 8 and love a lot of Korg's synth sounds. Many are iconic and fantastic.
All these comparisons are good. But really, all this can be compared only when we hear the part in the mix. And then it becomes clear which is better. Moreover, both keyboards have extensive sound adjustment capabilities.
The Montage has the most exciting synth feature, but the overall output seems a little compressed, the Kronos seems to have more depth and dynamics. The Montage sounds more polished , a little too polished it sounds a bit flat.
H4NDCRAFTED never noticed it until u said it. Great ears. Think you helped me make my choice.
KORG Kronos - THE KING for the next 10 years
Yamaha sounds sterile and Hi-Fi-like, that´s what I love when it comes to realism.
But KORG managed to put some "dirt" into its sounds. For example the organs and the rhodes. I had Kronos X for some months to compare with my XF7.
Montage the best!
I think Kronos sounds better on most samples, but both are excellent with massive editing power, so you're going to be able to get the sound you want.
i dunno what this man selected, but as i hear a Horns on my Korg Krome - they sounds in ten times better than here in this demo on Kronos!
WOOW MONTAGE!!!
fui a ver un montage en una tienda y el brass no suena igual.
Sometimes you just have to have the brass to sit in more context to hear how it sounds... not by itself as you would a piano.
like montage 100%
MONTAGE !
Just another totally stupid discussion, as sound quality very much depends on patch programming and personal taste
Montage o melhor dos melhores, o top dos tops. É só minha opinião, cada um com a sua. Valeu!
o montage só fala mesmo nas suas caracteristicas fm, incontestavel. mas de resto kronos 2 the best
BrasSection Scarf vs BrasSection Scarf4
montage wins
me sigo quedando con el kronos,porque el montage suena con mucho efecto.
NESSE QUESITO SEM DUVIDAS MONTAGE.
Montage sounds better, is it just me ?
Kronos is best
En Brass suena mucho mejor el Montage.
It's not a brass section for a 4000€ keyboard (Montage) in 2022
Kronos win~
Montage muito melhor que Kronos. ficou ainda mais real.
Montage
Montage sounds realistic, whereas Kronos sounds more like a synth or sampler. And you didn't even show off the Superknob, which lets you seamlessly go from an ensemble to a solo instrument and back again. This adds enormously to realism and expression.
montage
Montage definitely took this one. Some of the Kronos brass sounded either a tad worse than the Montage or just as good. Never did it sound better than any of the Montage's brass IMO. Not saying the Kronos brass is bad at all it just Montage 's was better. But montage is using the same samples from the Motif Xs/f.
Montage like real, Kronos like Cassio here
lavate los oidos sordo, se escribe casio, y el kronos no suena como casio,es como que yo diga que el yamaha suena a juguete.
These synths are now obsolete. You can buy much better orchestral sounds from people like spitfire audio and other orchestral sample makers, and you can tweak them for more expression too. But you do need a powerful computer to run them
Montage please !!
hahaha... Joel Jack you a Kronos guy
I've watched more than 30 videos from these demos and people say; Yamaha is the better sounding keyboard but it seems to me this guy is either bias or he doesn't set up both pianos at the same volume and resonance or he connects the Kronos on cheaper speakers which don't reproduce the sound of the Kronos as it should be heard. I love yamahas but they are so overpriced, it is hard for me to spend an additional $2,000 when the Montage doesn't even come with a sequencer or even has the processing capabilities or the larger, more colorful screen of the Kronos. If I get to be able to create great music, I want to go back to my inspirational moments and be able to do improvements on it from sequences and recordings instead of trying to "remember" them faithfully, it just doesn't happen. And why, if the Kronos came out in 2011 with superior synthesizing technology that hasn't had the need to improve, except for the new upgrades to the X model which is basically the same albeit double the internal memory and the LS which has the better feel on the keys, basically the amazing 9 synth engines on the Kronos have remained the same and this was in 2011... the Montage took forever to match up to Kronos and its super expensive and no sequencer?!? So what if the Yamaha has a few degrees of tonality and arpeggiators that is hardly noticeable once you put everything together? Either you have Superman's ears to notice the slight difference or you grow accustomed to the Kronos's sound and won't mind the slight difference while you're having fun producing, recording and sequencing music... anyone agrees?
Será que a YAMAHA ajustou o ASSINGNABLE FUNCTION no BRASS após ver esse meu vídeo?
Did YAMAHA adjust ASSINGNABLE FUNCTION on BRASS after watching my video?
ua-cam.com/video/e-VYW2Oud-w/v-deo.html
yamaha sounds better and real!!
Yamaha
Montange! win
Compare the Sequencers and Sampling, Oh wait, Montage doesn't do any of that!
KRONOS Rules!!!
+kbrkr go check your ears :)
Yamaha Montage is a synthesizer. Korg Kronos is a workstation keyboard. Huge difference.
+Ronald Barometre is Kronos a synthesizer and a workstation though?
yeah but there's a thing called DAW that every producer worth a damn use as the centerpiece for assembling musical ideas so having a weaker version of the same in the keyboard is redundant, and has been for a decade.
kbrkr I think you're missing the point of whats a synthesizer and a workstation keyboard....
kronos the best
Montage sem comparação
Yamaha is a bit better with the samples. But something as ugly as Montage doesn’t exist. Wait, forgot about the Tyros.
Yamaha superior
Yamaha is so amazing ! KRONOS is sooo lame
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