That was most of one of the most ferocious fires I have ever seen! But I have so much respect for all you fifefighters in the US, and here in the UK. Fair play to you all!
Chemically speaking…. Garage…truck garage…. Yellow would think some sulfide/ sulfur content. Green, geeeeze some variant of chlorine powder. And neither identification is going to help at this stage, except, don’t breathe it.
I'd have run like a jackrabbit at the first "boom." These guys are real professionals. So few of us really understand what these men and women go through on a daily basis. Well done, BFES, and thanks Liam Pattinson for posting this amazong video.
Thank you for the kind words! It indeed would've been very frustrating. Tons of armchair quarterbacks in these comments throwing their two cents in on a situation they don't know about, disappointing. They did what they could with the resources they had.
It was absolutely dumb luck for their nearest hydrant to be frozen. We had experienced more than a week of extremely cold temps before this fire, and this day was extremely cold too. Definitely frustrating!
To all the armchairs firefighters typing a comment, keep in mind: this is rural firefighting. There are not hydrants at every corner, or even at every other corner. And if you’re truly on the job, you know that you need water to fight a fire. Every department does things differently. So unless your going to give them crap about the euro helmets, I’d keep it to yourself. :)
Was a very dynamic scene with multiple issues, very frustrating. Frozen hydrants, too far away hydrants, needing police/highways to shut down the highway to run a line across, all with minimal staffing and a rippin' fire. Not every department has unlimited resources.
It is a terrible feeling for firefighters when they don’t have enough water to properly attack the fire. Deck guns and big pumpers won’t do anything if you don’t have the water supply system to back them up. I looks to me that they did a pretty good job with what they had.👍
Perhaps with their rural district and limited water supply, consideration should be given to more pumper-tanker type apparatus with CAFS. I currently work in a county with only a few hydrants in the towns only. We have an apparatus committee and have been upgrading to pumper-tankers with CAFS and large attack tenders for the past 12 years. It has helped us a lot and helped to lower insurance rates in some areas.
In a rural area near where I lived, there were few hydrants. Fire dept went out and bought a good used stainless steel tanker truck that had been used to haul milk. Bought a used truck cab to pull it and it worked great for the district and was/still called into support other towns that are rural. This spending big bucks for a tanker that holds 5,000 gallons when you can get a used tanker and cab like they did that holds 11,000 gallons for probably 40 grand.
Wow, that's some intense footage- great job! I bet you were able to feel the heat when that rolling door collapsed. Also glad the wind was blowing away from you - that smoke looked nasty!
Thanks much Lucas, it got a little warm where I was but I bet it was scorching for those firefighters who were up closer. Definitely was slowly moving back as that was all unfolding!
Been reading the comments about this and what the armchair professionals are forgetting is this is the same fd that fought tooth and nail with the assistance of multiple mutual aid vfd's to put out the Christie's fire that spread to multiple other downtown structures and fought with so much water that the city's water treatment plant was down to less than 10% of volume and were getting ready to pump untreated river water into the mains to keep the boys pumping where this fire occurred there is minimal infrastructure to fight big fires like this which is not good considering how many gas stations hotels restaurants and other businesses up there
Good points John. It's not the fault of the firefighters if the hydrant infrastructure doesn't allow them to do their job easier. First hydrant was frozen, next nearest was actually too far away for supply line to reach, third and final option was to lay across the TransCanada, which needed to be closed in both directions. Definitely not a simple or instant action to perform.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Many Departments find themselves having to go into politics for this reason. Our organization has to constantly remind "The Board" when infrastructural changes are needed, as we continue to build farther away from big cities. Million dollar (US) homes with 1/4 mile driveways out there, only to find one hydrant and a pond 3 miles away, is quite discouraging when you show up 1st due. I find myself talking to citizens regularly to get them involved before it's too late. (And it's their house or business). And occasionally my own letter to a local Representative calling out such situations. But cutting into the Kenworth sign? Sacrilege! Great video and story. Stay safe!
@@charmcitytoe Disappointing indeed. Their nearest hydrant was frozen, and their next nearest was too far away for their hoses to reach, they had no other choice but to go across the highway. You'd think that in an industrial/commercial business area you'd have hydrants at almost every major property, unfortunately not. Thanks for the comment!
@@johncottrell7901 Read my description John. They didn't have a water supply. Why waste water on a fire you're not able to put out with just tank water?
I was first response team member. I'm retired now and been at so many fires thru the years. The last one was 9/11 and still have nightmares. I guess I wasn't ready for that much destruction that my brain was too much. Can happen to anyone.
This stunning video should have a sub title giving the current weather conditions and wind chill. Also including the fact that that only one of the several available hydrants were frozen! The windchill was something between -40 and -50C.
It was very frustrating from the looks of things. Not much you can do when your nearest is frozen, next nearest is literally too far away for your hoses, and the only other option is shutting down the busiest highway in the province. Not a quick or simple thing to do. Thank you for realizing their struggles and not being an armchair quarterback. Cheers!
Thank you! I switch between videos and photos so I am not able to film continuously throughout an incident, but I'll try and get longer clips on the next one!
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Tell them firefighter they did a great job for what they were dealing with, size, fire load, water supply vs size of fire you can only work with the tools in your tool box.
They may have been having water supply issues, large fire large diameter hose to fight it. Great video showing conditions and great smoke colors, reasons why these fires are so dangerous. Hazardous material response more than likely came too with the possibilities of the chemicals inside. Glad to see air pac used during operation with the toxic air surrounding this fire. Good job
Yes, they had severe water supply issues. As I mentioned in the description, their nearest hydrant on the same side of the highway was frozen. Their next nearest on the same side was physically too far away to run hoses to, and their only other option was to close down the busiest highway in the province and run a supply line across the highway. That all took a lot of time to figure out and coordinate, meanwhile this fire was already well-established in the structure. Very frustrating circumstances for those firefighters knowing they couldn’t do anything until they had a water supply.
All very true. Would have preferred to see larger lines used and utilizing that line reach to stay out of the collapse zone of a no. Salvageable building.
My first guess for the yellow smoke was sulfur because sulphur is yellow. Crude oil comes with varying amounts of sulfur in it. (The less sulphur, the “sweeter” it is) There are pits full of sulfur around refineries with the sulfur removed in the refining process. (If you drive through Eastern New Mexico where there are a lot of working oil wells, you can smell the sulphur in the air; refineries smell like that too.) There was probably some petroleum contaminated with sulfur because it turns out that sulphur burns with yellow smoke. People on site could have easily smelled it. Did you smell it while recording?
Yep, and the hydrogen that makes up the hydrocarbons in crude oil reacts with the sulfur to produce hydrogen sulfide which gets carried along with the crude oil as it's pumped out of the ground, and this stuff not only smells nasty and is horribly toxic, it can also explode under certain conditions.
Last year I worked a fire on a massive ground transformer that was for our cities water treatment facility. Lightning strike was the cause. We noticed that the flame was green and blue and the smoke that followed was a yellowish color, just like the video here. There is a mineral oil in some transformers used for cooling. It was wild looking. I’m not saying that the yellow smoke from this video is caused by the same stuff. I was just sharing my experience.
@@johnr.7374 Interesting. Never would have guessed Mineral oil did that. I watch a lot of fire videos and this one is nuts. When I saw that green/yellow smoke I wanted to evacuate my house. You guys are awesome. Thank you for your service 💯
been a ff for 22 years now and a mechanic. Saw that color of smoke at a fire once. It turned out to be R143a refrigerant. They probably had a collection tank that blew.
Nasty fire from the get go. Smoke color and force of it pushing. Garage doors impediment. Tower streams into the garage Bay Area would have done the job but it seems like small department. Considering the handlines used, they did a pretty good job. Not much manpower but the brothers did damn pretty well considering the chemicals and explosives it seemed inside. Stay safe from NYC.
Cheers from Manitoba. Unfortunately with their manpower they didn't have the aerial on scene when it was getting intense. They also didn't have enough water pressure to supply the pumper AND the master stream. Gotta work with what you've got I guess!
I read your ignorant comment and had the compulsion to spit on the floor. See those little windows in those garage doors? Aerials? This fire needed water inside on the burning material not on the roof. Go0d I hate hero worshippers!
@@JB91710 Ahhhh I remember you. Sad sad little man commenting horse shit on every fire video he sees. Watch out everybody, JB91710 is the GOD firefighter!
I clicked on like and it changed from 999 to 1k. Omg that is massive. I bet those hardworking firemen feel like taking 5 showers when they get home. :)
All those frozen hydrants. The city and the department need to get to the bottom of that issue. Where else in the city, is that the case? Without water, you're powerless to fight fire. Were the underground water supply lines, and the hydrants themselves, installed properly, and does the fire department conduct regular checks of the hydrants?
May I ask why it took so long to get any water on this fire. We were taught in firefighter school that there should be water on that fire within one minute of arriving on scene less if you can
Great video Mr Pattison. I have a (possibly dumb) question for you experts (including automotive repair folk) What would produce that weird Yellow/green smoke while burning. Again, a great video! Stay safe!!!
Thank you very much for the kind words Ed, they're much appreciated. As for the smoke... I'm not sure. It was a heavy duty truck shop with semi trucks inside, so possibly could've been the byproduct of some semi materials catching fire, maybe a fuel tank letting go, or one of the other many hazardous materials that are present in heavy duty shops like this one. I'd be interested to find out the exact cause of that yellow/green smoke... it was a little worrying!
Mustard coloured smoke is a sign of an intense fire and is a result of the gasses - the smoke - containing a lot of unburnt products of combustion. I’ve never seen it quite so intensely yellow, the only time it come close was at a net factory. It could be burning something that’s causing that colour as well, but I’d be tempted to think that in the circumstances it’s just the intensity of the fire
That fire REFUSED to go out. I've seen some invasive fires, but this was pretty crazy. I think, due to it being a trucking company, there were a lot of flammable and caustic materials inside that just made a cocktail of NOPE NOT GOING OUT.
You're 100% right. Couple that with no water supply for an extended period of time, low staffing/trucks for this sort of fire, and -35 degrees celsius and it's a recipe for disaster.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography I've noticed a lot of videos where lack of water supply, which most of the time isn't the fault of the responders, turn a savable situation into a total loss. That yellow smoke, though, made me happy there wasn't a supply line sooner. Most caustic chemicals don't do well to fire + water. Worked for a trucking company and we would always let Fire and EMS know if there were certain chemicals in the facility.
@@Redman147 You bet. If they would've had another close-by hydrant and some more staffing this may have been a different story. And yeah that yellow/green smoke definitely had me backing up as I was filming/taking pictures. I had never seen that sort of smoke before and didn't want to find out how it smelt lol.
Wow one of your best videos by far, really incredible shots especially showing the smoke conditions and colors. Question though not making any accusations just curiosity, is it a common practice for guys to be on air on the exterior from that distance or where the crews taking a precaution from the unknowns of what was burning? All in all tough fought fire.
Thanks pal, it was definitely a tough situation. I'm not 100% sure on their specific protocol, but a few of them were going inside into the office portion of the building before it got sketchy, so maybe they were still on air for that. Also likely in preparation for those doors to come down. And maybe a factor of it being such a wild incident that they didn't realize they were still on air either, other things on their mind maybe.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography @Demonracer2 there is a radius of what is called the collapse zone, normally the height of the building double anywhere within that "Collapse zone" you have to be on equipment with air. Incase of building collapse and you get buried alive in rubble. You wont have time to put it on during the collapse. - If there was a safety officer present, it doesn't look like it was they wouldn't have allowed that one person to be that close to the building unattended. While putting on his equipment, for that exact reason - Gas canisters, fuel tanks exploding, if that door didn't hold the potential of projectiles being fire in his direction was high. He wouldn't have seen it coming. Why they employ a buddy system similar to the Aviation Crew resource management.
Rule of thumb for your when the smoke starts turning from dark grey to black it is in the roof, once that happens it means the building is lost, 2nd a collapse can occur at anytime so caution is used, In addition to the fire burning weakening the structure supports. The fire department is adding gallons of water weight on top of an already weakened structure. - This is why if there is no life in danger you will see what you do here, They stand back and let it burn and protect the exposures buildings around. They risk a lot to save a lot, they risk little to save little. The only caveat to that is the risk of those canisters exploding. So they switch to foam, (which is even more weight.) So together with the smoke and junk being spewed out and the risk of potential collapse at any time is the reason they have to have gear on in the collapse zone.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography possibly, just curious especially with the distance the FF is at 2:50 from the building and wind direction I was surprised to see they were still on air.
@@bartsartdrawingchannel5949 thanks for that but I have been to numerous defensive operation fires both commercial and residential and I have never seen any FFs the distance of 2:50 on air ever, which is why I was asking if this is a typical protocol for this department/area
I asked the same question initially but then realized they were depending on a tanker shuttle to get the water they needed to work the GPM problem. As it is I think that line was pulled to do an initial hit on what looked like a vent limited fire and act as a standby line for the crew that went inside. Looks like they were holding their water for the interior crew who was likely doing a quick search on the office space... I know by conventional ... "rules of thumb" let's call it anything bigger than single room and contents gets a 65mm / 2.5" if logistics allow for it- but if you've got to make your water last dumping your tank in a minute and a half isn't always the most desirable option. For the sake of discussion I looked up Inland on google maps and measured the footprint of the involved space- learning it was roughly 20m x 60m. Using deductive reasoning, the fact you asked about "why" and said 1 3/4 tells me you know a thing or two and are in the US so I imagine you know that if we take that measurement in feet and call it about 75' x 200' and, at least 2 minutes in the video the structure is arguably one quarter to half involved (looking at what we can see along the Delta side I don't get the impression the whole length of the shop was involved) we know that we need at LEAST 1250GPM to control that fire let alone extinguish it. So I know why you asked... but what do you do if you can't put 1250GPM on that fire on arrival? To be blunt, you do what these guys did.
@@FromGamingwithLove0456 As a rule of thumb, 10 lpm x M2 suffice, a 60x20 m are 1.200 M2, but 1/4 burning were 300 M2, so you need a flow of 3.000 lpm. Direct from water on board, you can attain 2.000 lpm/500 gpm from each pumper, with two of them you have 1.000 gpm capability. So three 250 gpm each nozzle, had absorbed the heath and lowered down that fire intensity in 90% in 20-30 seconds using 1.000 to 1.500 liters, and still remaining 5.000 to 4.500 liters of water for mopping up/overhaul, but besides there was a line being laid to a working hydrant. The best exposure protection it´s putting the fire out ASAP!!!
Companies who build their businesses in small towns that don’t have adequate water resources for emergencies should build retention ponds for reasons like this video to save their business in case of a fire, common sense. If Fire Fighters don’t have access to an adequate water source to quickly extinguish a working Fire. Most small Fire Departments I’ve seen have a couple of water tankers on hand and keep them filled with water all the time. One refills while one pumps to engines. These tankers can draw water from any water source (Fire Hydrant, Pool, Pond, River, Lake, etc..).
I am curious about what the back half looked like. Just doing a little exercise on reading the smoke I'm wondering where the fire was getting the air to build up the way it did. Once those lower windows on the garage were burnt out then it's easy to figure out what was up- but there's a lot of condition change in the smoke from arrival to that point. It darkens down, increases in density and velocity... Where is it getting the air to do that? (Edit: I measured out the shop on google maps and it's pretty big- 20m x 60m... so lots of air in that shop to help build up the fire.) I looked up "Inland" and it's a heavy duty mechanic shop... Those "explosions" MAY actually just be tires on big rigs blowing off. I've heard the PRVs on propane cylinders etc. venting before and it's pretty obvious pre BLEVE... Big rig tires blowing off (would explain the number of pops) seems like a likely possibility- They do let go with a pretty awakening bump and it would certainly explain the minimal change in fire condition after they happen. I did, however, notice once the door came down that you could actually see something venting- which did end up BLEVE'ing... I'm not sure they all were but either way the fact it's "unknown" is significant. I also noticed, to the credit of the folks doing the entry through the "people" door that the door was controlled while they searched to minimize air entry- must admit I was impressed they had the presence of mind to manage the door to limit ventilation instead of barbarically ripping it off the hinges while trying to scare the fire out (like we used to do). If I could make one recommendation to the living tripod who put together this video (credit to the excellent video quality and stability)- if conditions allow and to make the videos as beneficial as possible for those of us who are scanning the interwebs for learning opportunities (few of us are fighting a lot of fires anymore so we need all the help we can get), a quick shot of all 4 sides of the building as early as possible would be an excellent addition (my opinion only). Thanks for the great video and to our brothers and sisters in Brandon stay warm out there.
Thanks for the kind words! From what I could see, there wasn't a whole lot happening at the back. The back of the building was actually fenced in (with some gates) so I wouldn't have been able to get back there. Additionally most of the "action" was happening up front, so I wanted to stay there. And yes, it was quite a big building. Had a shop portion, office portion and what looked like a storage/parts portion, so lots of opportunity for airflow.
One last comment for Liam Pattison, it would be an extra "treat" if follow up video from after the fire is struck could be added to quality footage as this. Just a suggestion. I have worked at companies that have had fires. Sometimes to get the real scope of the damage follow-up footage could tell the rest of the story.
those brandon guys catch some serious fires and do a great job being a small dept. Just glad none of my stuff was at the dealer thats going to be an insurance nightmare.
They do what they can with the resources they have. In my opinion they're severely understaffed, especially considering they run/handle all EMS calls within the city and surrounding area as well.
It's a full time career department. In my description I explain how they had severe water supply issues, with their nearest hydrant being frozen. They had to get the busiest highway in the province shut down to run a supply line across it. Very challenging and frustrating set of circumstances.
Look at my description. I explain how they had water supply issues, and needed to close down the busiest highway in the province to get a line across. That takes time.
Why did it take them almost 5 minutes to establish a water supple? They could have at least used the water on the trucks to start fighting the fire until then got the hydrants connected I know as a volunteer Fireman we got the water established much quicker
Good video, If I were you I would send this video to the department to review - the fire fighter should have never been in that position his life was saved by the door. HE never would have seen it coming. If it hadn't of hold. He was busy looking down getting his gear on, let his guard down and it almost cost him. You can tell just by how fast he scampered away. This is something that should have never happened. You either get ready before you go in, or you have someone with you to watch you back while you get ready. - Either way it be better if the department saw this, so they can trap these errors and fix them from happening again. So they're not attending his funeral next time.
I'd have to disagree. As soon as those explosions started going off he moved back like he should've. Video is deceiving too, he was farther back than it looked on video.
Wow. Very disorienting video. Was there any shot longer than 10 seconds? It's like looking at video still frames. We want to know what the result of any particular firefighting action was. Glamour shots just don't cut it except for the useless nightly news.
No point in holding a shot of the exact same stuff for multiple minutes. I keep my videos dynamic. I also had multiple longer clips in this video, get over it.
Very toxic substances. Not sure exactly what was causing that colour of smoke, but it was very worrying. This was a heavy duty truck business, so there were numerous hazardous materials in the building.
Not a wise idea to construct a large, high value building, operating a business which is inherently hazardous, no sprinklers, in a location with inadequate water supply to fight a major fire, in a city with limited firefighting resources. Brandon firefighters were faced with an impossible situation and did the best they could with what they had to work with.
They absolutely did. Disappointing that the infrastructure didn't allow for a second hydrant on their side of the road to be close enough. Quite a frustrating situation.
Good job. It got hot before they could ever start. Smoke & soot damages to everything inside before it got going. Look at all that smoke coming from everywhere. What a challenge. Job well done.
Why these industrial facilities don't have their own sprinkler system installed? Installing them would be fraction of the cost they lost in damage. And really how much insurance actually covers?
Call me crazy but I think I would spot those rigs a little further away. And I sure as hell wouldn’t be standing outside that garage door especially if you don’t even have water supply to do anything with. No need to put yourself at risk for a structure that is already a loss.
This fire changed drastically from when trucks arrived to when it started getting really sketchy. It all got bad within a few minute span. They had their trucks at a safe distance, hard to tell from the video. Trucks were repositioned a few times throughout the day.
They didn't have a water supply at that time (read my description). The water they had in their tanks wouldn't have been enough to extinguish the fire.
This was a commercial semi truck dealership/mechanic shop, so there are plenty of combustible materials in a place like this. I believe there were a couple semi trucks inside at the time of the fire, so it could've been their tires, shocks, fuel tanks, or other materials in the shop like propane tanks, acetylene tanks, etc.
Thank you for reading my description and not posting a rude comment. There are tons of comments on here that shit on the operation without knowing what challenges they had. Extreme temps, far away hydrants across the busiest highway in the province and low staffing don't mix.
They do have on board water, but its usually only 500 gallons per truck. That is not a lot of water when faced with a big fire. Read my description and it will tell you about their water supply issues.
I don’t know where it is, but all businesses should have fire hydrant on the property, and water shouldn’t be a problem, the minimum requirement for hydrant to produce is 500 GPM, and some hydrant can provide as much as 2,500 GPM, and all of them should have annual inspection, no exceptions! If it was delay because of water issues, then it’s a big lawsuit against who responsible for inspecting fire hydrant. However, it looks like they are not in a hurry to put that fire away, they there to get their check, stretching time. I’ve being a fire fighter, but of course in different country, and as soon as we got to the place, we always bringing water truck, and starts right away with water that on truck, while other 2 people connecting hoses to a hydrant, and in less then 3 minutes we switching to a hydrant water supply, but of course through auxiliary pump to give us a much bigger pressure, however, safety should be first, but not delay.
195 Got into an attack stance 195 observed the doors buckle as an explosion occured 195 recognized the threat and retreated a safe distance Be like 195, and exercise self-preservation.
That is the chillest fire department on the planet, no one ever got out of first gear. Building was a loss from the start, good job not pushing in and getting anyone hurt for no good reason.
If they would've had a sustainable water supply off the start I believe they would've made more of a push inside, but due to no water supply they didn't want to risk any lives on a fire that was already well established.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography as an IC with what was showing upon arrival, I would have gone defensive right away too. I think they made the right call regardless of the water supply or not. That has all the signs of a well established, deep seated fire. Spend some time outside using big water (to the extent they can) and once they get it to a manageable state then move people inside if it can be done safely.
@@davidrossman7925 Totally agree. No use risking lives with something like that, especially if that fire is already rocking inside. Would've been an absolute oven in there with the all metal shop.
Their only hydrant that was reachable and not frozen was across the busiest highway in the province. It took time to shut down that road and get a line across.
I just love it when trained fire fighters just stand around an obvious fire and do nothing. It really pisses me off to no end. Why the hell didn't they get those damn garage door open before the fire took them out. Might have acctually done some good.
Well James, if you had any knowledge on how fires worked you would understand that oxygen is fuel for a fire. You think that opening two huge roll-up doors while a massive fire rages inside would help the situation? As you can see, when those doors eventually failed the rush of air caused the fire conditions to deteriorate rapidly and aggressively. If you would've read my description you would've understood the challenges they faced with this fire, including minimal staffing and a very complicated/non-existent water supply. They were working with what they had, and it took time to establish a confident water supply with the resources they had at the time.
This fire had a huge headstart on these men and women . I dont know about the heavy duty powerlines that ran across the overhead doors. The only smart thing was to retreat and regroup as the one ff did. These looks like a heavy duty repair shop. Lots of fuel,tires shop equipment. Any idea the temp was, these guys were very short handed for the size and fuel load of that building. The only thing is that maybe nobody got hurt.👍
You're right, this fire was well established and somewhat beyond the capabilities of what resources they had. Minimal staffing, severe water supply issues, and a well established commercial fire are not a great mix. This was a semi dealership/heavy duty truck mechanic shop, so there were lots of extremely flammable and combustible products inside the building. Very toxic environment. The temperature was around -20°C with a windchill of around -30°C, very very cold when you're out there for multiple hours. It dipped into the -40°C (with windchill) range later into the night while crews were still on scene. So far there have been no injuries reported which is fantastic, especially for such an intense incident. Thank you Vinny for your nice comment! Cheers
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Here in Texas on the Gulf Coast, we got to single digits (Fahrenheit) and people died. I was without power about 12 hours, much less than some. Our houses are not insulated for this kind of cold and hardly anyone has clothing for these kinds of temperatures.
@@enid0mom I've been seeing much of that on the news, incredible and horrible stuff. Seems that your state's infrastructure failed you, and systems weren't in place to handle that type of situation. Hopefully going forward there are more plans made for similar events!
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Politicians are responsible for infrastructure. They are who failed. Did you know Texas has its own electric grid that is not connected to the others in the country. That is to avoid federal regulations and oversight. After a similar but smaller incident in around 2009, the problem was investigated and solutions proposed in 2011. Those solutions included weatherizing all the facilities. That report was put on a shelf and ignored. Facilities that literally froze up, coal fired, gas fired, nuclear, and wind. Solar doesn’t freeze. Wind turbines are used all over the world, including Antarctica, so they can be winterized for the most extreme conditions. The GOP doesn’t believe in climate change and the GOP has been holding EVERY statewide elected position since George W Bush was governor. We would have still had the problems of icy roads, etc. that didn’t rely on electricity, but at least people wouldn’t be dying of hypothermia. Desperate people do desperate things and people died from CO because they tried to burn charcoal grills in their house, or run a car in an attached garage. Several apartments burned and some hotels. Fire suppression systems were breaking everywhere at apartments, hospitals, hotels, churches, and places that were being used for warming people whose electricity was out. The building my daughter’s apartment is had its sprinkler system bust in the middle of the night setting off fire alarms; her apartment seems to be the one most seriously damaged, so she will have to move to another unit on the same property. She has 4 year old twin girls. Another major problem is that building codes don’t require insulation on plumbing. Almost all plumbing is in the attic in this part of Texas. I hope people in other states are paying attention to all the things that went wrong. Places like Arizona and Southern California could have the same problems under similar circumstances.
@@enid0mom...my daughter and her family live in Texas too. In Midlothian. It sounds to me like inadequate preparation for a weather emergency, vulnerable infrastructure, and horrible decision making on the part of the politicians at the local, state and federal level. Everybody dropped the ball and the system collapsed. I hope some heads roll at high levels and some lessons are learned.
I remember when that place used to be MacArthurs. My dad used to take his truck there all the time for small parts, or have spare parts on hand just in case.
first thing, the total response was inadequit. 2, the number of active hoses again just not enough. if fuel was also alight why was foam not used. looking at some firefighters in vid poor or not enough training.
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That was most of one of the most ferocious fires I have ever seen!
But I have so much respect for all you fifefighters in the US, and here in the UK. Fair play to you all!
Yeah it was a nasty and intense fire, very scary! Cheers!
This happened in canada lol
@@landcaster1234 Upper USA same difference...JOKING lol
Chemically speaking…. Garage…truck garage…. Yellow would think some sulfide/ sulfur content. Green, geeeeze some variant of chlorine powder. And neither identification is going to help at this stage, except, don’t breathe it.
Yep mask on and go in 2 1/2 blazing, keep your head down and watch for incoming;!
I'd have run like a jackrabbit at the first "boom." These guys are real professionals. So few of us really understand what these men and women go through on a daily basis. Well done, BFES, and thanks Liam Pattinson for posting this amazong video.
Thank you for the kind comment, cheers!
Nothing more frustrating trying to fight a fire, but no water available. Winter sucks!! Great job by the firefighters, great job filming
Thank you for the kind words! It indeed would've been very frustrating. Tons of armchair quarterbacks in these comments throwing their two cents in on a situation they don't know about, disappointing. They did what they could with the resources they had.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography do you know why additional units were not called in to bring the smoke under control?
As a VFF for 34 yrs is a very difficult fire since it's metal and it holds in heat and fire 🔥 Great job guys ! And great filming the beast .
Thank you very much Will, it was an intense one. Very difficult conditions.
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I was wondering why it took so long to get water on the fire, never had to deal with a frozen hydrant. Thats a bad day. Well done guys.
It was absolutely dumb luck for their nearest hydrant to be frozen. We had experienced more than a week of extremely cold temps before this fire, and this day was extremely cold too. Definitely frustrating!
To all the armchairs firefighters typing a comment, keep in mind: this is rural firefighting. There are not hydrants at every corner, or even at every other corner. And if you’re truly on the job, you know that you need water to fight a fire. Every department does things differently. So unless your going to give them crap about the euro helmets, I’d keep it to yourself. :)
There are many reasons for the euro helments too, Heavy SAR, Airial Teams utilize, Medical reasons for FF safety etc. Good catch good comments OKie
Was a very dynamic scene with multiple issues, very frustrating. Frozen hydrants, too far away hydrants, needing police/highways to shut down the highway to run a line across, all with minimal staffing and a rippin' fire. Not every department has unlimited resources.
It is a terrible feeling for firefighters when they don’t have enough water to properly attack the fire. Deck guns and big pumpers won’t do anything if you don’t have the water supply system to back them up. I looks to me that they did a pretty good job with what they had.👍
Perhaps with their rural district and limited water supply, consideration should be given to more pumper-tanker type apparatus with CAFS. I currently work in a county with only a few hydrants in the towns only. We have an apparatus committee and have been upgrading to pumper-tankers with CAFS and large attack tenders for the past 12 years. It has helped us a lot and helped to lower insurance rates in some areas.
In a rural area near where I lived, there were few hydrants. Fire dept went out and bought a good used stainless steel tanker truck that had been used to haul milk. Bought a used truck cab to pull it and it worked great for the district and was/still called into support other towns that are rural. This spending big bucks for a tanker that holds 5,000 gallons when you can get a used tanker and cab like they did that holds 11,000 gallons for probably 40 grand.
Wow, that's some intense footage- great job! I bet you were able to feel the heat when that rolling door collapsed. Also glad the wind was blowing away from you - that smoke looked nasty!
Thanks much Lucas, it got a little warm where I was but I bet it was scorching for those firefighters who were up closer. Definitely was slowly moving back as that was all unfolding!
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Yup, way too many BTUs for the GPMs available.
Water issues, weather issues and more. A bastard of a fire to fight.
Well done firefighters.
Very frustrating I'd imagine, they did what they could with what they had.
Been reading the comments about this and what the armchair professionals are forgetting is this is the same fd that fought tooth and nail with the assistance of multiple mutual aid vfd's to put out the Christie's fire that spread to multiple other downtown structures and fought with so much water that the city's water treatment plant was down to less than 10% of volume and were getting ready to pump untreated river water into the mains to keep the boys pumping where this fire occurred there is minimal infrastructure to fight big fires like this which is not good considering how many gas stations hotels restaurants and other businesses up there
Good points John. It's not the fault of the firefighters if the hydrant infrastructure doesn't allow them to do their job easier. First hydrant was frozen, next nearest was actually too far away for supply line to reach, third and final option was to lay across the TransCanada, which needed to be closed in both directions. Definitely not a simple or instant action to perform.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Many Departments find themselves having to go into politics for this reason. Our organization has to constantly remind "The Board" when infrastructural changes are needed, as we continue to build farther away from big cities. Million dollar (US) homes with 1/4 mile driveways out there, only to find one hydrant and a pond 3 miles away, is quite discouraging when you show up 1st due. I find myself talking to citizens regularly to get them involved before it's too late. (And it's their house or business). And occasionally my own letter to a local Representative calling out such situations. But cutting into the Kenworth sign? Sacrilege! Great video and story. Stay safe!
@@charmcitytoe Disappointing indeed. Their nearest hydrant was frozen, and their next nearest was too far away for their hoses to reach, they had no other choice but to go across the highway. You'd think that in an industrial/commercial business area you'd have hydrants at almost every major property, unfortunately not. Thanks for the comment!
When everyone else is running away, these heroes are running in.... God Bless.
Yeah
LOL, that's why lineman backs off when the "explosions" start and sits there with a charged line and does nothing....
@@johncottrell7901 Read my description John. They didn't have a water supply. Why waste water on a fire you're not able to put out with just tank water?
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I was first response team member. I'm retired now and been at so many fires thru the years. The last one was 9/11 and still have nightmares. I guess I wasn't ready for that much destruction that my brain was too much. Can happen to anyone.
This stunning video should have a sub title giving the current weather conditions and wind chill. Also including the fact that that only one of the several available hydrants were frozen! The windchill was something between -40 and -50C.
You bet, was a intense and frustrating set of circumstances these firefighters faced.
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Being an Arizona FF I can't imagine having to deal with a frozen hydrant. Nice job adjusting and securing water. Big Fire = LOTS of water.
It was very frustrating from the looks of things. Not much you can do when your nearest is frozen, next nearest is literally too far away for your hoses, and the only other option is shutting down the busiest highway in the province. Not a quick or simple thing to do. Thank you for realizing their struggles and not being an armchair quarterback. Cheers!
That yellow smoke is reminiscent of burning sulphur. Wondering what was burning there to produce that particular shade of yellow smoke
i am just going to guess it may be Oil. they do (did) have a ton of oil on site for oil changes
Great coverage! I'd love to see uncut version to really get a sense of how the fire went.
Thank you! I switch between videos and photos so I am not able to film continuously throughout an incident, but I'll try and get longer clips on the next one!
Wowwww. Mad respect to firefighters in Canada and all of the world!
Was a very very cold day, they worked hard!
Certainly makes one more appreciative of those in the profession of fighting fires and of course, those who are out there documenting their efforts!
@@BrockCox1 Much appreciated Brock, thank you! Those guys definitely deserve a beer and a warm bed after that lol.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Tell them firefighter they did a great job for what they were dealing with, size, fire load, water supply vs size of fire you can only work with the tools in your tool box.
@@jimboles967 Absolutely agree, not every department has unlimited resources. Thanks Jim!
Wow. That’s sad. Great footage I’m guessing the smoke was from burning trucks and parts (oils and such also) damn what a fire.
Yup for sure. Lots of extremely flammable and combustible materials in there, including semi trucks.
They may have been having water supply issues, large fire large diameter hose to fight it. Great video showing conditions and great smoke colors, reasons why these fires are so dangerous. Hazardous material response more than likely came too with the possibilities of the chemicals inside. Glad to see air pac used during operation with the toxic air surrounding this fire. Good job
Yes, they had severe water supply issues. As I mentioned in the description, their nearest hydrant on the same side of the highway was frozen. Their next nearest on the same side was physically too far away to run hoses to, and their only other option was to close down the busiest highway in the province and run a supply line across the highway. That all took a lot of time to figure out and coordinate, meanwhile this fire was already well-established in the structure. Very frustrating circumstances for those firefighters knowing they couldn’t do anything until they had a water supply.
All very true. Would have preferred to see larger lines used and utilizing that line reach to stay out of the collapse zone of a no. Salvageable building.
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My first guess for the yellow smoke was sulfur because sulphur is yellow. Crude oil comes with varying amounts of sulfur in it. (The less sulphur, the “sweeter” it is) There are pits full of sulfur around refineries with the sulfur removed in the refining process. (If you drive through Eastern New Mexico where there are a lot of working oil wells, you can smell the sulphur in the air; refineries smell like that too.) There was probably some petroleum contaminated with sulfur because it turns out that sulphur burns with yellow smoke. People on site could have easily smelled it. Did you smell it while recording?
No I didn't, I wasn't planning on getting any closer to that yellow smoke. Thanks for the info though, interesting to learn about!
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Yep, and the hydrogen that makes up the hydrocarbons in crude oil reacts with the sulfur to produce hydrogen sulfide which gets carried along with the crude oil as it's pumped out of the ground, and this stuff not only smells nasty and is horribly toxic, it can also explode under certain conditions.
What a miserable set of circumstances they had to contend with. I don’t think I could handle that kind of cold. Great videography btw.
Thank you for the kind words Brian, it was quite a frustrating set of circumstances.
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I've never seen smoke that color in my life. Great job guys! 💯
Me either, definitely was a little concerning! Thanks for your comment.
Last year I worked a fire on a massive ground transformer that was for our cities water treatment facility. Lightning strike was the cause. We noticed that the flame was green and blue and the smoke that followed was a yellowish color, just like the video here. There is a mineral oil in some transformers used for cooling. It was wild looking. I’m not saying that the yellow smoke from this video is caused by the same stuff. I was just sharing my experience.
@@johnr.7374 Interesting. Never would have guessed Mineral oil did that. I watch a lot of fire videos and this one is nuts. When I saw that green/yellow smoke I wanted to evacuate my house. You guys are awesome. Thank you for your service 💯
@@johnr.7374 Interesting! This was my first time seeing that colour of smoke. I was definitely backing up as I was filming lol
been a ff for 22 years now and a mechanic. Saw that color of smoke at a fire once. It turned out to be R143a refrigerant. They probably had a collection tank that blew.
Nasty fire from the get go. Smoke color and force of it pushing. Garage doors impediment.
Tower streams into the garage Bay Area would have done the job but it seems like small department.
Considering the handlines used, they did a pretty good job.
Not much manpower but the brothers did damn pretty well considering the chemicals and explosives it seemed inside.
Stay safe from NYC.
Cheers from Manitoba. Unfortunately with their manpower they didn't have the aerial on scene when it was getting intense. They also didn't have enough water pressure to supply the pumper AND the master stream. Gotta work with what you've got I guess!
I read your ignorant comment and had the compulsion to spit on the floor. See those little windows in those garage doors? Aerials? This fire needed water inside on the burning material not on the roof. Go0d I hate hero worshippers!
@@JB91710 who said anything about aerials ?
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Looks like a cold day in hell really does exist with this fire.
Yup, windchill was around -30°C that day. Extremely cold!
I clicked on like and it changed from 999 to 1k. Omg that is massive. I bet those hardworking firemen feel like taking 5 showers when they get home. :)
Thank you for viewing and liking, much appreciated! It was a crazy fire. So many challenges, especially with the cold.
Incredible on scene footage! Ive watched a couple times now.
Thank you very much! Definitely one of my craziest scenes, cool to see it be my most viewed video too.
Why did they stop putting water on the fire? Could have saved a lot.
All those frozen hydrants. The city and the department need to get to the bottom of that issue.
Where else in the city, is that the case? Without water, you're powerless to fight fire. Were the underground water supply lines, and the hydrants themselves, installed properly, and does the fire department conduct regular checks of the hydrants?
May I ask why it took so long to get any water on this fire. We were taught in firefighter school that there should be water on that fire within one minute of arriving on scene less if you can
Read the description
Hopefully there was a useful after action debrief..
Great video Mr Pattison. I have a (possibly dumb) question for you experts (including automotive repair folk) What would produce that weird Yellow/green smoke while burning. Again, a great video! Stay safe!!!
Thank you very much for the kind words Ed, they're much appreciated. As for the smoke... I'm not sure. It was a heavy duty truck shop with semi trucks inside, so possibly could've been the byproduct of some semi materials catching fire, maybe a fuel tank letting go, or one of the other many hazardous materials that are present in heavy duty shops like this one. I'd be interested to find out the exact cause of that yellow/green smoke... it was a little worrying!
Mustard coloured smoke is a sign of an intense fire and is a result of the gasses - the smoke - containing a lot of unburnt products of combustion. I’ve never seen it quite so intensely yellow, the only time it come close was at a net factory. It could be burning something that’s causing that colour as well, but I’d be tempted to think that in the circumstances it’s just the intensity of the fire
Thats what def fluid does after it explodes,after all it is spent ammonium nitrate
When you’ve no water , sorry for the owners
they had water just very bad maintenance on equipment
That fire REFUSED to go out. I've seen some invasive fires, but this was pretty crazy. I think, due to it being a trucking company, there were a lot of flammable and caustic materials inside that just made a cocktail of NOPE NOT GOING OUT.
You're 100% right. Couple that with no water supply for an extended period of time, low staffing/trucks for this sort of fire, and -35 degrees celsius and it's a recipe for disaster.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography I've noticed a lot of videos where lack of water supply, which most of the time isn't the fault of the responders, turn a savable situation into a total loss. That yellow smoke, though, made me happy there wasn't a supply line sooner. Most caustic chemicals don't do well to fire + water. Worked for a trucking company and we would always let Fire and EMS know if there were certain chemicals in the facility.
@@Redman147 You bet. If they would've had another close-by hydrant and some more staffing this may have been a different story. And yeah that yellow/green smoke definitely had me backing up as I was filming/taking pictures. I had never seen that sort of smoke before and didn't want to find out how it smelt lol.
Brandon needs encouragement. Can we get a "Let's go..."
Wow one of your best videos by far, really incredible shots especially showing the smoke conditions and colors. Question though not making any accusations just curiosity, is it a common practice for guys to be on air on the exterior from that distance or where the crews taking a precaution from the unknowns of what was burning? All in all tough fought fire.
Thanks pal, it was definitely a tough situation. I'm not 100% sure on their specific protocol, but a few of them were going inside into the office portion of the building before it got sketchy, so maybe they were still on air for that. Also likely in preparation for those doors to come down. And maybe a factor of it being such a wild incident that they didn't realize they were still on air either, other things on their mind maybe.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography @Demonracer2 there is a radius of what is called the collapse zone, normally the height of the building double anywhere within that "Collapse zone" you have to be on equipment with air. Incase of building collapse and you get buried alive in rubble. You wont have time to put it on during the collapse. - If there was a safety officer present, it doesn't look like it was they wouldn't have allowed that one person to be that close to the building unattended. While putting on his equipment, for that exact reason - Gas canisters, fuel tanks exploding, if that door didn't hold the potential of projectiles being fire in his direction was high. He wouldn't have seen it coming. Why they employ a buddy system similar to the Aviation Crew resource management.
Rule of thumb for your when the smoke starts turning from dark grey to black it is in the roof, once that happens it means the building is lost, 2nd a collapse can occur at anytime so caution is used, In addition to the fire burning weakening the structure supports. The fire department is adding gallons of water weight on top of an already weakened structure.
- This is why if there is no life in danger you will see what you do here, They stand back and let it burn and protect the exposures buildings around. They risk a lot to save a lot, they risk little to save little. The only caveat to that is the risk of those canisters exploding. So they switch to foam, (which is even more weight.) So together with the smoke and junk being spewed out and the risk of potential collapse at any time is the reason they have to have gear on in the collapse zone.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography possibly, just curious especially with the distance the FF is at 2:50 from the building and wind direction I was surprised to see they were still on air.
@@bartsartdrawingchannel5949 thanks for that but I have been to numerous defensive operation fires both commercial and residential and I have never seen any FFs the distance of 2:50 on air ever, which is why I was asking if this is a typical protocol for this department/area
Why in the heck would you even pull an 1 and 3/4 on that?
Pretty sure they didn't have the water to supply master streams. Doing the best they can with what they got to work with imo.
I asked the same question initially but then realized they were depending on a tanker shuttle to get the water they needed to work the GPM problem. As it is I think that line was pulled to do an initial hit on what looked like a vent limited fire and act as a standby line for the crew that went inside. Looks like they were holding their water for the interior crew who was likely doing a quick search on the office space...
I know by conventional ... "rules of thumb" let's call it anything bigger than single room and contents gets a 65mm / 2.5" if logistics allow for it- but if you've got to make your water last dumping your tank in a minute and a half isn't always the most desirable option.
For the sake of discussion I looked up Inland on google maps and measured the footprint of the involved space- learning it was roughly 20m x 60m. Using deductive reasoning, the fact you asked about "why" and said 1 3/4 tells me you know a thing or two and are in the US so I imagine you know that if we take that measurement in feet and call it about 75' x 200' and, at least 2 minutes in the video the structure is arguably one quarter to half involved (looking at what we can see along the Delta side I don't get the impression the whole length of the shop was involved) we know that we need at LEAST 1250GPM to control that fire let alone extinguish it.
So I know why you asked... but what do you do if you can't put 1250GPM on that fire on arrival? To be blunt, you do what these guys did.
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@@FromGamingwithLove0456 As a rule of thumb, 10 lpm x M2 suffice, a 60x20 m are 1.200 M2, but 1/4 burning were 300 M2, so you need a flow of 3.000 lpm. Direct from water on board, you can attain 2.000 lpm/500 gpm from each pumper, with two of them you have 1.000 gpm capability. So three 250 gpm each nozzle, had absorbed the heath and lowered down that fire intensity in 90% in 20-30 seconds using 1.000 to 1.500 liters, and still remaining 5.000 to 4.500 liters of water for mopping up/overhaul, but besides there was a line being laid to a working hydrant.
The best exposure protection it´s putting the fire out ASAP!!!
13 Minutes in and no water on the fire? Why?
I explained it in my description. They had severe water supply issues.
All I could think about watching this was "Let's Go Brandon"
Companies who build their businesses in small towns that don’t have adequate water resources for emergencies should build retention ponds for reasons like this video to save their business in case of a fire, common sense. If Fire Fighters don’t have access to an adequate water source to quickly extinguish a working Fire. Most small Fire Departments I’ve seen have a couple of water tankers on hand and keep them filled with water all the time. One refills while one pumps to engines. These tankers can draw water from any water source (Fire Hydrant, Pool, Pond, River, Lake, etc..).
This happening within the city where hydrants are present... their nearest hydrant was frozen though.
That's interesting how the yellow/green smoke eventually disappears after a while, whatever was causing it must have burned fairly quickly.
Those are fire trucks….whenever there’s a fire you see them there standing around while the fires consume everything
Meanwhile, while we are all sitting lokking at and making comments, someone's business that supports families is literally going up in smoke.
Very bright business!!!
Don't like the comments don't read them
Stfu u act like they have no money at all
That is some NASTY smoke!! Shhheeeeash!
Great, great footage!
Nasty is right, I was backing up as I was filming! Thanks for watching.
I am curious about what the back half looked like. Just doing a little exercise on reading the smoke I'm wondering where the fire was getting the air to build up the way it did. Once those lower windows on the garage were burnt out then it's easy to figure out what was up- but there's a lot of condition change in the smoke from arrival to that point. It darkens down, increases in density and velocity... Where is it getting the air to do that?
(Edit: I measured out the shop on google maps and it's pretty big- 20m x 60m... so lots of air in that shop to help build up the fire.)
I looked up "Inland" and it's a heavy duty mechanic shop... Those "explosions" MAY actually just be tires on big rigs blowing off. I've heard the PRVs on propane cylinders etc. venting before and it's pretty obvious pre BLEVE... Big rig tires blowing off (would explain the number of pops) seems like a likely possibility- They do let go with a pretty awakening bump and it would certainly explain the minimal change in fire condition after they happen. I did, however, notice once the door came down that you could actually see something venting- which did end up BLEVE'ing... I'm not sure they all were but either way the fact it's "unknown" is significant.
I also noticed, to the credit of the folks doing the entry through the "people" door that the door was controlled while they searched to minimize air entry- must admit I was impressed they had the presence of mind to manage the door to limit ventilation instead of barbarically ripping it off the hinges while trying to scare the fire out (like we used to do).
If I could make one recommendation to the living tripod who put together this video (credit to the excellent video quality and stability)- if conditions allow and to make the videos as beneficial as possible for those of us who are scanning the interwebs for learning opportunities (few of us are fighting a lot of fires anymore so we need all the help we can get), a quick shot of all 4 sides of the building as early as possible would be an excellent addition (my opinion only).
Thanks for the great video and to our brothers and sisters in Brandon stay warm out there.
Thanks for the kind words! From what I could see, there wasn't a whole lot happening at the back. The back of the building was actually fenced in (with some gates) so I wouldn't have been able to get back there. Additionally most of the "action" was happening up front, so I wanted to stay there.
And yes, it was quite a big building. Had a shop portion, office portion and what looked like a storage/parts portion, so lots of opportunity for airflow.
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Hey Gaming, today I learned the term BLEVE, because of you. Neat. Thanks, dude. 😊
I never seen fire trucks that didn't have no water before?
They do have water, not enough to put this fire out though. They needed a hydrant. Read my description.
One last comment for Liam Pattison, it would be an extra "treat" if follow up video from after the fire is struck could be added to quality footage as this. Just a suggestion. I have worked at companies that have had fires. Sometimes to get the real scope of the damage follow-up footage could tell the rest of the story.
Wet stuff on red stuff makes black stuff turn to white stuff, what took so long before more than one hand line placed?
Read the description. Extreme water supply issues with minimal staffing. Doing what they can with what they had.
those brandon guys catch some serious fires and do a great job being a small dept. Just glad none of my stuff was at the dealer thats going to be an insurance nightmare.
They do what they can with the resources they have. In my opinion they're severely understaffed, especially considering they run/handle all EMS calls within the city and surrounding area as well.
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Who’s bright idea was it to fan the flames with the exhaust fans?
Is it a volunteer dept? Small dept? Just curious. Probably water issues? Severe cold? Tough looking conditions.
It's a full time career department. In my description I explain how they had severe water supply issues, with their nearest hydrant being frozen. They had to get the busiest highway in the province shut down to run a supply line across it. Very challenging and frustrating set of circumstances.
2:25 yup time to back up!
You bet!
I'm no expert how come it seems to take ages to start fighting the fire? Too risky?..... Just asking is all
Look at my description. I explain how they had water supply issues, and needed to close down the busiest highway in the province to get a line across. That takes time.
Is that normal to hose what is obviously an electrical sparking at the near start of the video ?
I'm completely impressed..............the foundation was saved!
Why did it take them almost 5 minutes to establish a water supple? They could have at least used the water on the trucks to start fighting the fire until then got the hydrants connected I know as a volunteer Fireman we got the water established much quicker
Read my description.
Good video, If I were you I would send this video to the department to review - the fire fighter should have never been in that position his life was saved by the door. HE never would have seen it coming. If it hadn't of hold. He was busy looking down getting his gear on, let his guard down and it almost cost him. You can tell just by how fast he scampered away. This is something that should have never happened. You either get ready before you go in, or you have someone with you to watch you back while you get ready. - Either way it be better if the department saw this, so they can trap these errors and fix them from happening again. So they're not attending his funeral next time.
I'd have to disagree. As soon as those explosions started going off he moved back like he should've. Video is deceiving too, he was farther back than it looked on video.
Wow. Very disorienting video. Was there any shot longer than 10 seconds? It's like looking at video still frames. We want to know what the result of any particular firefighting action was. Glamour shots just don't cut it except for the useless nightly news.
No point in holding a shot of the exact same stuff for multiple minutes. I keep my videos dynamic. I also had multiple longer clips in this video, get over it.
I have a question about the fire. starting at 3:40 you see yellow smoke coming out of the garage. what does that mean?
Very toxic substances. Not sure exactly what was causing that colour of smoke, but it was very worrying. This was a heavy duty truck business, so there were numerous hazardous materials in the building.
great short catch of the Environmental Officer, saw one here in Wpg today.
Thank you, I wanted to focus more on it but I was absolutely frozen to the bone. First time I've seen it with lights!
Not a wise idea to construct a large, high value building, operating a business which is inherently hazardous, no sprinklers, in a location with inadequate water supply to fight a major fire, in a city with limited firefighting resources. Brandon firefighters were faced with an impossible situation and did the best they could with what they had to work with.
They absolutely did. Disappointing that the infrastructure didn't allow for a second hydrant on their side of the road to be close enough. Quite a frustrating situation.
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Good job. It got hot before they could ever start. Smoke & soot damages to everything inside before it got going. Look at all that smoke coming from everywhere. What a challenge. Job well done.
Why did they wait so long to finally start hosing it down,after it got much larger and more intense?
Read my description.
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Thank you for the kind words, cheers!
Why these industrial facilities don't have their own sprinkler system installed? Installing them would be fraction of the cost they lost in damage. And really how much insurance actually covers?
That's a great question. I'm not sure if sprinklers were present in this building or not, but a very valid point to bring up.
I totally agree with Lisa Lee's comment, and if I may add it looks bitter cold too
It was a very cold day!
Call me crazy but I think I would spot those rigs a little further away. And I sure as hell wouldn’t be standing outside that garage door especially if you don’t even have water supply to do anything with. No need to put yourself at risk for a structure that is already a loss.
This fire changed drastically from when trucks arrived to when it started getting really sketchy. It all got bad within a few minute span. They had their trucks at a safe distance, hard to tell from the video. Trucks were repositioned a few times throughout the day.
what causes the smoke to change colors?
Likely some form of off-gassing from materials inside the building. Not sure exactly what would've caused it, but there were many hazardous in there.
Sometimes the Fire Dept uses 2 1/2 lines to fight a fire.
wow holy smokes
why not squirt water at it , hose is charged?
They didn't have a water supply at that time (read my description). The water they had in their tanks wouldn't have been enough to extinguish the fire.
learn to read
Its good to show videos like this. It shows the incompetence and wasted tax money
What an ignorant and disrespectful comment. Read my description before giving your uneducated opinion next time.
Why are they not even trying to put the flames out?
I'm curious what the explosions were from
This was a commercial semi truck dealership/mechanic shop, so there are plenty of combustible materials in a place like this. I believe there were a couple semi trucks inside at the time of the fire, so it could've been their tires, shocks, fuel tanks, or other materials in the shop like propane tanks, acetylene tanks, etc.
At least there is a clear explanation in the description to understand why it took so much time for them to start fighting the fire. Damn winter!
Thank you for reading my description and not posting a rude comment. There are tons of comments on here that shit on the operation without knowing what challenges they had. Extreme temps, far away hydrants across the busiest highway in the province and low staffing don't mix.
Sounded like propane tanks going off. I have seen a few of those fires. I stayed blocks away as they were being launched like a rocket.
Very dynamic fire, dangerous one to fight. Glad there were no injuries!
On good lord...hope all souls were well following this awful fire xxx
Thankfully nobody was injured!
It would be a great video if the editing wasn't so crap. 2-5 second clips edited together with cross fades make it virtually unwatchable!....
Oh nooooo Max, are you okay?
what a fire! awesome coverage dude
Thanks very much pal, definitely one of the most intense fires I've been on. Thanks for watching!
OMG THIS IS AMAZING
Why is this amazing?
Yeah why!
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@@shaun6991 the smoke looks very ashy!
@@gibco25-offical56 its very black smoke
I never understood whu the US-firebrigade doesn't have trucks with a watersupply, so they can already start extinquishing the fire right away..
They do have on board water, but its usually only 500 gallons per truck. That is not a lot of water when faced with a big fire. Read my description and it will tell you about their water supply issues.
They do have water and this isn't the US.
I don’t know where it is, but all businesses should have fire hydrant on the property, and water shouldn’t be a problem, the minimum requirement for hydrant to produce is 500 GPM, and some hydrant can provide as much as 2,500 GPM, and all of them should have annual inspection, no exceptions! If it was delay because of water issues, then it’s a big lawsuit against who responsible for inspecting fire hydrant. However, it looks like they are not in a hurry to put that fire away, they there to get their check, stretching time. I’ve being a fire fighter, but of course in different country, and as soon as we got to the place, we always bringing water truck, and starts right away with water that on truck, while other 2 people connecting hoses to a hydrant, and in less then 3 minutes we switching to a hydrant water supply, but of course through auxiliary pump to give us a much bigger pressure, however, safety should be first, but not delay.
excellant catch
Thanks for watching!
195 Got into an attack stance
195 observed the doors buckle as an explosion occured
195 recognized the threat and retreated a safe distance
Be like 195, and exercise self-preservation.
That is the chillest fire department on the planet, no one ever got out of first gear. Building was a loss from the start, good job not pushing in and getting anyone hurt for no good reason.
If they would've had a sustainable water supply off the start I believe they would've made more of a push inside, but due to no water supply they didn't want to risk any lives on a fire that was already well established.
@@LiamPattisonPhotography as an IC with what was showing upon arrival, I would have gone defensive right away too. I think they made the right call regardless of the water supply or not. That has all the signs of a well established, deep seated fire. Spend some time outside using big water (to the extent they can) and once they get it to a manageable state then move people inside if it can be done safely.
@@davidrossman7925 Totally agree. No use risking lives with something like that, especially if that fire is already rocking inside. Would've been an absolute oven in there with the all metal shop.
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Yep, the explosions and smoke said a lot. Be careful and don't get hurt. That was some ugly smoke . Good video.
Thanks for the kind comment. I was slowly moving backward when those explosions started going off, very violent fire.
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@@tonyboss3025 I saw that one. A helpless feeling when you see the glow in the sky en-route. Thanks.
There is no reasons to kill the fire anymore, fire fighter is just wanting their water.
Absolutely insane! Great camera work man, so happy you were able to get to this!
Me too pal, one of the craziest fires I've been able to film. Was wild. Thanks man!
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so why is the FF just standing there with a charged hose not putting any water on the fire
Read my description.
If there was only 1 hydrant available, there was no way to put that amount of fire out.
Their only hydrant that was reachable and not frozen was across the busiest highway in the province. It took time to shut down that road and get a line across.
I just love it when trained fire fighters just stand around an obvious fire and do nothing. It really pisses me off to no end. Why the hell didn't they get those damn garage door open before the fire took them out. Might have acctually done some good.
Well James, if you had any knowledge on how fires worked you would understand that oxygen is fuel for a fire. You think that opening two huge roll-up doors while a massive fire rages inside would help the situation? As you can see, when those doors eventually failed the rush of air caused the fire conditions to deteriorate rapidly and aggressively.
If you would've read my description you would've understood the challenges they faced with this fire, including minimal staffing and a very complicated/non-existent water supply. They were working with what they had, and it took time to establish a confident water supply with the resources they had at the time.
7 minutes 50 seconds in a fireman litterally sitting on a hose, do they wear a cup ?
Never seen yellow smoke before, is that chemical in origin?
Not sure exactly what caused that colour of smoke but I wouldn't doubt it if it was produced from some nasty substance or material.
Why are they Not dropping water or foam on this till now
Read my description
Amazing coverage!
Thanks very much Alex!
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Jeez, you think you might want to move that $100,000 truck away from the burning building ?
This fire had a huge headstart on these men and women . I dont know about the heavy duty powerlines that ran across the overhead doors. The only smart thing was to retreat and regroup as the one ff did. These looks like a heavy duty repair shop. Lots of fuel,tires shop equipment. Any idea the temp was, these guys were very short handed for the size and fuel load of that building. The only thing is that maybe nobody got hurt.👍
You're right, this fire was well established and somewhat beyond the capabilities of what resources they had. Minimal staffing, severe water supply issues, and a well established commercial fire are not a great mix.
This was a semi dealership/heavy duty truck mechanic shop, so there were lots of extremely flammable and combustible products inside the building. Very toxic environment.
The temperature was around -20°C with a windchill of around -30°C, very very cold when you're out there for multiple hours. It dipped into the -40°C (with windchill) range later into the night while crews were still on scene.
So far there have been no injuries reported which is fantastic, especially for such an intense incident. Thank you Vinny for your nice comment! Cheers
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Here in Texas on the Gulf Coast, we got to single digits (Fahrenheit) and people died. I was without power about 12 hours, much less than some. Our houses are not insulated for this kind of cold and hardly anyone has clothing for these kinds of temperatures.
@@enid0mom I've been seeing much of that on the news, incredible and horrible stuff. Seems that your state's infrastructure failed you, and systems weren't in place to handle that type of situation. Hopefully going forward there are more plans made for similar events!
@@LiamPattisonPhotography Politicians are responsible for infrastructure. They are who failed. Did you know Texas has its own electric grid that is not connected to the others in the country. That is to avoid federal regulations and oversight. After a similar but smaller incident in around 2009, the problem was investigated and solutions proposed in 2011. Those solutions included weatherizing all the facilities. That report was put on a shelf and ignored. Facilities that literally froze up, coal fired, gas fired, nuclear, and wind. Solar doesn’t freeze. Wind turbines are used all over the world, including Antarctica, so they can be winterized for the most extreme conditions. The GOP doesn’t believe in climate change and the GOP has been holding EVERY statewide elected position since George W Bush was governor. We would have still had the problems of icy roads, etc. that didn’t rely on electricity, but at least people wouldn’t be dying of hypothermia. Desperate people do desperate things and people died from CO because they tried to burn charcoal grills in their house, or run a car in an attached garage. Several apartments burned and some hotels. Fire suppression systems were breaking everywhere at apartments, hospitals, hotels, churches, and places that were being used for warming people whose electricity was out. The building my daughter’s apartment is had its sprinkler system bust in the middle of the night setting off fire alarms; her apartment seems to be the one most seriously damaged, so she will have to move to another unit on the same property. She has 4 year old twin girls. Another major problem is that building codes don’t require insulation on plumbing. Almost all plumbing is in the attic in this part of Texas. I hope people in other states are paying attention to all the things that went wrong. Places like Arizona and Southern California could have the same problems under similar circumstances.
@@enid0mom...my daughter and her family live in Texas too. In Midlothian. It sounds to me like inadequate preparation for a weather emergency, vulnerable infrastructure, and horrible decision making on the part of the politicians at the local, state and federal level. Everybody dropped the ball and the system collapsed. I hope some heads roll at high levels and some lessons are learned.
I remember when that place used to be MacArthurs. My dad used to take his truck there all the time for small parts, or have spare parts on hand just in case.
GPMs vs BTUs until the GPM is greater than the BTUs fire won’t go out .. Laymond’s terms big fire big water
You bet. Can't have big water when your hydrants are frozen/too far away.
The spirit of firefighters👍👍👍
Great footage and great description of what they were facing.
Thank you for the kind words Dan! Was quite the fire and situation.
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@@tonyboss3025 WOW! just watched the full length video of that fire. Incredibly stunning and horrifying at the same time. Thanks for the link
first thing, the total response was inadequit. 2, the number of active hoses again just not enough. if fuel was also alight why was foam not used. looking at some firefighters in vid poor or not enough training.
May I suggest to look up the description and why there were issues?