UPDATE: During the post-production of the documentary "13 Lost: The Untold Story of the Thai Cave Rescue," director Raimund Huber received an email from Rick Stanton, leader of the British rescue divers, facilitated by Ben Svasti, a liaison for the British divers. Stanton's email, containing false accusations/assumptions, was seemingly aimed to influence the director’s project and discredit Ben Reymenants. The director refuted these accusations/assumptions and asked for evidence, but neither Stanton nor Ben Svasti have responded yet. Here is the email, along with the director’s response to Rick Stanton (Ben Reymenants should not be confused with Ben Svasti): drive.google.com/file/d/1U2zWN13lAbp0qsWX6iCXUQbH25fXj2ea/view
The truth needs to be told. So the ropes were laid by Ben and Maksym. And it was BEN who suggested to use the face mask for the boys. The British found the boys BUT without 🇧🇪 and 🇫🇷 who built the infrastructure for 🇬🇧, the English will never find the boys on their own. HEROES to Ben and Maksym !!!!!
@@vincegoshi Ben was involved only in the search phase of the rescue, and there's a good reason for this. The movie "Thirteen Lives" is largely fictional, and the National Geographic documentary "The Rescue" presents the story from the perspective of the British divers, with Rick Stanton and John Volanthen having an exclusive deal (even the Euro Divers were all cut out). The documentary completely omits the crucial line-laying phase. Volanthen’s book does not even mention Reymenants during this process, and Stanton’s book provides only a fragmented account. Here is a short summary of the true story. Enjoy: qr.ae/ps8L0A
@@ThaiCaveRescue Why do you think a National Geographic (American company) and a movie by Ron Howard (an American director) would single out the British perspective? You are talking absolute garbage. Nice to see you are sponsored by Elon Musk 😂
@@Mk1Male you just proved our point: the entire narrative originates from Stanton & Co. When other significant figures shared their perspectives, Stanton attempted to intervene, seemingly to influence their narrative. And yes, you caught us-Elon Musk is paying us $190 million. Here is Musk's story: open.substack.com/pub/savingjournalism/p/the-real-thai-cave-rescue-pt-1-elon?r=3krx3e&
I would like to say thank you to Ben, Maksym and Savy...You are the true heroes, because you have laid out the pathway reaching the kids. The two Britishers should thank Ben, Maksym and Savy. Documentaries and TV series have highlighted the Australian Doctor and the British, but never mentioned both of you. However, they have forgotten to highlight Ben, Makysym and Savy big contribution. As always the Anglo Saxon people try to highlight their story. I am with you BEN, MAKSYM and SAVY. You are the true hero and the best. Kudos. Loves from Malaysia. Cheers
When I watched the movie 13 lives I ask myself who laid the red ropes since I listen to many cave diver disaster stories enough to know that guide ropes are lifeline for diver. Now I know the heroes who laid it. Thank you.
I just watched the movie today that's why I'm here. I thought the same! While watching this documentary, I'm a bit confused as to why they're not interviewing John and Rick and it turns out, these are different guys who actually did a LOT of job as well that deserves credit too! Omg.
Ben and Maksym are the unsung heroes. You guys persevered when others thought it was impossible. Sadly not many people know your contribution and sacrifices. Thank you!
As a Thai people, I’d like to thank you every unsung heroes. I can only say what you’ve done never go waste. If you don’t expect anything from a good thing you do, the result will come back to you unexpectedly as well.
As an observer in this whole thing, I knew there were many, many stories we had not heard. The remarkable rescue was because each "group" did their job. I knew the lines were placed and were a very important part of this rescue. The bravery and persistence of this group was unsung but we all knew they were there. This rescue could not happen without EACH group of incredible men doing their job. Thank you.
I wonder why they wouldn't give Maksym a rebreather? Ben had one, so he could have continued on for hours, but not alone. Maksym had tanks which didn't allow him to continue, so they both turned back. After watching a dozen retellings of this story, the cockiness of some of the "heroes," who never mention Ben, Maksym, Pae or Seva and were pretty dismissive of the Thai Seal team doesn't sit so well with me.
@@ksc743 me too, I mean respect to both british divers, but I don’t like the way they treat Ben, his team was the main reason that those boys are found, the 2 british divers only have to do is scuba into the next chamber. I love how the Thai military give Ben his props and invited him to the palace.
I didn't know the lines or rope was there.I do agree with everyone had a part and everyone was very brave But I watched the movie a few times.He never mentioned Ben.smh.God sees everything
@@Dawgdidit456.dizzle right? The movie and TV series are not mentioning the two divers who actually made it work. Ben, Maksym and Seva did the most important job..
Thank you for sharing this story, I watched the British version. Now I know, the ropes were laid by Ben and Maksym. Yes, the British found the boys BUT without 🇧🇪 and 🇫🇷 who built the infrastructure for 🇬🇧, the English will never find the boys on their own. HEROES to Ben, Bruce, Pae and Maksym !!!!!
I must have watched 6 documentaries and movies about this rescue, this one just came across my UA-cam feed. It really helps gel all the glitz given to the British divers into perspective. We know at least a dozen international divers participated, but only 3 became acknowledged heros. I'm so glad these other intimate stories of this miraculous successful global effort are out there and not washed away with time. I live 7km from the cave, been there before during and after, not the most inviting habitat to be in under any conditions. Thank you for all your efforts and the great risks you overcame towards the glorious outcome. Thank you.
I watched the Netflix series over the last few days and I wondered how much was true events. Sad the Brits had that attitude. Certainly took a huge team of many very intelligent and skilled people.
I am British and I would like to apologise for the way you were treated. You should all have got the recognition. It was an international effort. I am proud of the British team but proud of you too ❤
I’m sad & disappointed, that the new movie didn’t depict & recognize the story of these brave men. I’m so glad I saw this video! I knew there was more to the story, and this clarified much. Thank 🙏🏾 you gentlemen, for you courage & selflessness.
@@jorr1334 my guess would be he didn't want to get involved in the politics of what went down. So much easier to start an English film with 2 well-spoken English people. What a shame. As they say in this documentary many heroes have reached the top on the backs of others. The European team deserved recognition for their role in this story. Ben getting sucked into that narrow passage could so easily have ended in disaster. But he ultimately discovered the passage that led to the boys, even if the British prevented him from participating any further. Egos are something else.
@@gleaghollamon2804 I think they're talking about Thirteen Lives, general release was in July and avail on Amazon Prime. The Rescue was released last year, avail on Nat Geo. There's a also a Netflix documentary/movie coming out this month.
Thank you very much I have to be 100% honest now that I've heard the real story I'm not even sure I want to see that movie lol but again thank you very much
I am Thai. I am so happy to watch this documentary which make me know more the true story. I am so truly thankful from the bottom of my heart for unsung heroes.
Thank you Ben Reymenants and Maksym Polejaka for your bravery and never giving up when others did. This is truly a remarkable story and it's so sad that the Netflix series did not even give acknowledgement either not any media interviews that I've seen. I salute you and all the unsung heroes.
I have been following every documentary and footages of thai rescue in detail..this was a fresh perspective and I could see a bit of politics in here..although it was for a good cause I appreciate you people were mature enough not to make it a news and lay low as the priority was their safety and rescue..you opened our eyes and really appreciate it guys..surely unsung heroes
I can’t imagine how the divers went through the water with no visibility. Imagine being first to find a way through and making how many wrong turns before the right. Then realizing bringing the kids through with you. For a rescue. The bravery is insanity!
There is but yet one more unsung hero the biggest most important of all "COACH" he not only kept 12 young boys alive for 10 long days in blind darkness by keeping calm praying together, by way of meditation. In darkness he taught all 12 boys how ro find water in the rocks to fish for food with bare hands by way of sound. Taught them how to breath through their fears , not to panic in order to conserve their energy . Most importantly Courage to keep fighting not only for themselves but for one another by never giving up hope!...... Coach🕊 Guardian.....
i am BRITISH and i was very proud of our divers , and i must say you two divers deserve has much praise has them , you did a great job , so did the seals the guys who brought the pumps in to reduce the flow of water that must of helped the divers , i have learned something watching this ,
Like you, @George, I am British and in fact a cave diver as well. I did not know about this side of the story. I do think its very poor indeed that it took Rick 3 years to acknowledge Ben and Max, and a disgrace that John never did. As to how Ben was treated by the Mitchell fellow from BCRC, that was an absolute disgrace. I hope more people watch this video to better understand the contribution that Ben and Max made. They deserve equal credit alongside the British team.
Absolute respect to these guys, they are heroes. My dismay is that, not only the divers featured here but also the large numbers of support volunteers who have only been included as, “Oh yes there were others who helped,” without asking for or being given credit or acknowledgement. They too deserve much more recognition than has been offered. Personally, I am able to only name one, who I count as a personal friend, so it’s not even remotely appropriate for me to identify him. Enough for him to know that he has my undying respect! 👌 I think the lack of recognition is disgraceful, each nation involved should be encouraged to provide a roll of honour for their own Nationals, to be displayed along with the rolling credits of ANY and ALL media regarding this truly international cooperative operation!
Wow, I’m glad I watched this version. Credits to Ben & Max. I’m sorry that the Brits took all the credit for this. In the Netflix movie, it depicted the two Australian’s are the real brains behind the final rescue where they were sedated and taken out by the divers. I’m glad Ben & the guys got the recognition they deserved by the Thai president. All in all, the kids are rescued by a huge team effort. Everyone is a hero in their own right. At least the kids are alive and well, returned to their families. I hope they close this cave down.
The cave isn't at fault. It has been visited safely by many before. What needs to be done is changing the work culture in Thailand. It should not hierarchy based. The incident could have been prevented if employees at the weather centre had the authority to issue a public warning about monsoon starting. The slow process of getting critical information to the higher ups and then waiting for their response. That really played a strong part in this unfortunate incident. If public warning had been issues just a little faster. The soccer team would not have entered the caves.
2 Ukrainians not even mentioned , 2 people divers which are Ukrainians suppose to get credit because it was riskiest part of all mission ( mission impossible) became possible
Thousands of people were involved but boo hoo Ben and Max not mentioned. 188 medals were handed out by King of Thailand, please why were not all 188 mentioned in the dramatization? Ben and Max should be spammed all over youtube? What about the other 186?
I am an American living in Thailand and of course I followed this rescue with rapt attention while it was in progress. As others have said, I am so happy to hear Ben, Seva's and Max's side of the story. On behalf of everyone in Thailand and around the world, thank you for everything you did and for the class and grace you demonstrate in this retelling of the story. It is fitting that you were with the Thai Seals because you exhibit the compassion, kindness, and humility of the Thai people. As someone also said, what you do out of the goodness of your heart will come back to you perhaps through an unexpected channel, but it will come back. It will be wonderful to see how that happens, or has already.
Synopsis: The untold story is that Rick Stanton and John Volathen of The British Cave Rescue Council initially found it too difficult and dangerous to penetrate into the cave and were about to give up when two other divers were called in, Ben Reymenants of Belgium and Maksym Polejaka of Ukraine. Ben and Maksym did much of the ground work in way of exploring the right side of the T junction and laying of guide ropes through the most difficult sections- making the rescue possible and yet are barely mentioned in most articles and documentaries. In 12 Lost interview, Ben states he was the first to say the kids would need to be brought out in full face masks and was ridiculed by the Brits and shunted off to manage the O2 tank replenishment station. However both were recognized by The Thai Royal Navy and His Majesty The King to receive medal commendations.
Fantastic story, after this happened I have to say I was a bit Thai cave rescued out but this was completely engaging a story. The 2 divers Ben and Max are just awesome in what they did for those kids, strangers, and without deserved recognition. And they are understandably pissed off, but not bitter. I can’t even conceptualise how they did what they did, leaving jobs and loved ones to dive in murky water and deal with international ego politics. I never could see myself even dreaming I might risk it all for a dozen kids I didn’t know. Now that I can own that I’m not hero material, how about those British? To be fair, of course they too were extremely heroic, and deserved allthe praise they got but I couldn’t help but think, Maksym and Ben: been snubbed, robbed and I the end, pwned by the English? I’m Australian, welcome to my world!
I have always heard of the British divers but not of these guys who have put the ropes and did a lot of the ground work. Thanks for sharing this story. Good grief, just watching this video of the under water work gives me lots of anxiety. You must be truly fearless to want to be a cave diver. Brave men all of you and true heroes for not giving up.
I'm glad I watched this version of events before seeing any other documentation of this rescue. All of the people involved deserve credit for doing something most would never even attempt, but especially the ones who laid the lines. It is the most dangerous part of cave diving.
I think everyone didn’t expect anything; it was a beautiful story, and thank you to everyone who went there and helped the boys, even the farmers; when I watched the movie, I thought there was a gap in the story, and this was the missing one.
Good job, Ben Reymenants, Maksym Polejaka, Bruce Konefe, Ruengrit Changkwanyuen, Vsevolod Korobov and to all the hundreds of volunteers - The Thai Navy Seals, divers, engineers, rock climbers, drainage specialists, medical volunteers, even the cooks, corporates, civilians and businessmen who donated equipments, food, and daily supplies. The world is thanking you for the hard work, persistence, bravery, generosity and selflessness during the rescue. Dont worry, real recognition comes from the Higher Power Above. Some people may missed giving you credit but when we all pass from this world, on our Judgment Day, all will be revealed. Sleep in peace at night knowing that you did all your best. 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍🎉🎉 🎉
There were so many parts and many groups in this operation. May be the movie just picked up a part of them to show out. No one can tell all details of that situation. We just know when they talk out loud. I very appreciate every single of THE TEAM.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💝😊
@@dr.davidenglish778 13 lives was made in Australia , two movies think where made in Thailand has the rescue was going on. the best movie i have seen is THE CAVE , been about 6 movies made of the rescue . in the CAVE it was the divers who gave the kids the injection . made up by the Australian doctor , i live in Australia and
I know this is not a laughing matter. Personally, I consider this rescue the most audacious thing that's ever happened in my lifetime. But I have to smile when I hear Maxim say " I was close to be stucked, he WAS stucked". Thanks to Maxim he didn't stay stucked. Beautiful.
I tend to observe that the people least concerned about personal recognition and credit are the most effective at getting results. In many instances big egos, often those of legit NPD cases, will come in to take credit and glory after the hard work is done. This story seems to at least somewhat keep with that trend.
This was not meantioned in 13 Lives. If totally true, the more famous 3 divers from the movie ought to have explicitly mentioned the efforts of these men who pioneered the way to the children.
In the National Geographic Documentary Rick Stanton DID mention and thank Ben and the NAVY SEALS for persevering when he and John thought there was no hope. He thanked Ben for continuing to put the line.
Not entirely true. Rick Stanton thanked Ben 3 years after the rescue (1 year after the release of this documentary) and John Volanthen never thanked or shared the credit to this day.
Thanks for this video from another angle. Watched many videos and agree that names Ben n Max did not pop out alot. As depicted by the Netflix series, the official story must have much political "relationship" at play.
I am so sorry they treated you guys like that Ben. That really makes me sick. The British are very stuck up. So happy you guys got credited. You and Max did Amazing. Great Job 🙏🏼
Glad to watch this documentary... Ben and Maxsym did it on another level of bravery where you guys risk your life to dive into the unknown laying the line. Thanks you Ben, Maxsym, Savy and Pae... Disappointed with others documentaries not mentioning any of your guys efforts...
Thanks guys, for share all of this with us. I always thought that there was something more about the British’s story. They were incredible, but you’re incredible too. God knows that… the true recognition comes from Him. Don’t be upset. That rescue it was only possible because of all those parts working together. We can’t talk about just two heroes at all.
Титанічна робота і неймовірна відвага, яку продемонстрували Максим, Бен, морські котики Таїланду і всі першопрохідці цієї небезпечної операції з порятунку, заслуговують окремого фільму! Особисті амбіції і "перетягування ковдри" як прояви низького людського єства, втім, не відміняють героїзму британців. Головне - життя, які було врятовано неймовірною жертовністю простих людей, котрі об'єдналися для створення цього дива! 💙
An Eye opening! I‘ve many questions while i was watching „the rescue“ documentary, and this documentary answered them all. I appreciate the hard work of the team. You guys are awesome!
Extremely brave of you real unsung heroes who really needs to be appreciated and known for their part of laying the rope which was the extremely crucial part in this whole mission. Great job. Even after several years of this incident it’s so sad that the world still thinks it’s the Britishers who did everything.
Many thanks to : ☞ Ben, Sevo and Maksym, who were unfortunately a little forgotten about this rescue 🌊🤿⛑️💦 in Thailand... 👏🏼 🆒 🤝 ☻ 🙏🏼 ✓ Congratulations to all rescuers ! 👏🏼 🙏🏼 ✓
Thank you for all you have done. Although you may not be internationally recognized and celebrated, I hope you all know you how instrumental your dives were for the rescue mission. I’m glad the Thai Prime Minister and the seal team celebrated and honored you. At first, I felt very disheartening for you, but I’m glad the Thai team knew of your selfless sacrifice and gave you the honor, respect, and credit you all deserved. This is how Thai people are and I’m proud to call myself a Thai person. Thank you again for your hard work and dedication.
Outstanding work! Brilliant documentary! In the 2022 film Ben's team's work was replaced by the Thai Navy seals entirely. It's just filmmaking but I am glad this documentary was made.
Synopsis: This video is about two divers who laid down some guide rope which helped the later dives (they were still a long way a way from the boys) and they did not have the right breathing regulation system to allow one of the divers to go long enough. The one who did have the right equipment probably could have made it to the boys but divers always have to go in pairs. The pair also have some 'near misses' e.g. diving watch broke, getting sucked in to a current, some of the rope they laid was not tied properly and floated away. After the Brits reach the boys the divers in this video do not dive in the cave again. It is not made clear in the video why they are asked to leave (around 40 minutes in) but they state that they go back home to work. Just before this there is a scene of one diver pouring large glasses of vodka to celebrate the boys being found. A few days later one diver returns to help load oxygen tanks and the other who did not have the correct equipment does not return (His diving breathing regulation system would not have given him enough oxygen to reach the boys and get back). In the end the divers are bitter and jealous that the Brits got so much fame and attention and they did not. The two divers are invited to a Thai palace for a reunion ceremony and are given an award for their efforts and bravery. The video does not mention the experience and skills that the successful British and Aussie rescue team had (anaesthetics, cave rescuing) which ultimately meant that they were the ones who saved the boys lives, not these two. It also does not mention that there were thousands of people involved in this operation and that every miniscule role played an important part.
Thanks for your comment. I agree they are bitter and jealous. Attempting to make more of their contributions than they are worth. The cave divers who did the rescue have done many rescues over 30+ years. These guys aren’t in their class both as divers and as humans. True hero’s don’t add up tshirts and caps, or vague mentions by navy seals. Rick Stanton et Al didn’t brag, just got on with the job. Now they have received proper recognition people like the “stars” of this video try to steal credit.
Totally amazing. I heard the children were givin a sedation to get them out alive .no mention of this diver who was an anastesiaoligost. So they would not panic .he is one of the unsung heros .it worked and very risky . Either way God was with the children all the way .God bless everyone involved in this rescue your all 🙏🙏🙏 all elite talented heros . Thank you for your service,.love you all . Your all the best of the best 👍🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸
I don't want to be the guy who point who made the biggest contribution, but I would say each and every efforts involved in this rescue mission should be applauded all the same, all of them! It's pointless arguing who did their best, cause all of them did. We're just people after all, no one is perfect. Also rest in peace to the two rescuer who passed away from this mission(one directly, and other indirectly, from what I read). Your bravery live on!
Say that to all the Australians and NZers that were put in the frontlines by Britain that died like lambs to the slaughter. It is obvious some have taken credit for something they didnt deserve in this story - glad I know now it was Ben and Max that were behind the real rescue.
Indra - I agree. When 'one/some' (very understandably) lost hope, others stepped in and pushed forward, and so and so forth. Without the team on top of the mountain, directing the water away from the sink holes the rescue would not have happened; without the strength of the coach keeping the children calm, the ending would have been tragic; etc. etc. etc. ...and so and so forth. Every person involved played a their very important part - the aim was to rescue those poor children and their coach - the aim was achieved. Precious lives were saved, by everyone stepping in and stepping out, and pulling together to achieve that aim. A magnificent effort from each and every one concerned - it upsets me when people sour this fantastic and magnificent happy ending with negative unhelpful comments.
@@coopermorehead Yeah, I somehow think the comment you replied to wasn't talking about the history of Australian and Kiwi soldiers when fighting with the British...
Definitely a great untold story of the rescue!!! The storytelling was clear and articulate!!!! Hats off to Ben and Maksym for doing their part of this incredible rescue!!!!
Indeed , like Max said 'In any situation I dont mind because the important thing is the result and it was a good result' Max truly has a fantastic outlook.
I feel sad they werent credited though... thats not fair... Its hurtful. Every ounce of hard work deserves recognition... Ego should be one of the 8 Deadly Sins!...
Amazing story! It filled the void! You guys are heroes! You did such crucial work! So well done! You will be also remembered now by all who followed that rescue! THANK YOU! xoxoxox
As usual complex procedures require team effort ,and the more seamless it is the better it usually turns out .anybody who has performed difficult difficult surgeries ,difficult military operations...etc knows or should know that ,maybe not the general public but still I knew there had to have been more specialists involved for it to have worked so well, I’m glad those people were portrayed in this documentary I wish they would have been recognized more even by the British team and internationally .To them goes my recognition ,for their humbleness for the quiet , unnoticed but resilient and strong effort .It should be known that these people were the cornerstone of the rescue.
A must see documentary! The movie sums it up very well: 'In nearly every epic story, there are heroes who stood on the shoulders of others to achieve the impossible'. Thank you. You are true heroes!
Every one who came to help are heroes, No one stood on the shoulders of others! I followed this news everyday all day as a Thai and there are many interviews from volunteer drivers, Thai SEALs and documentaries in Thailand that told the same thing that the British drivers are the main key of this successful and somethings different from this documentary. However, there are many drivers take turn to work in various tasks and focused to help, not to show themselves to the media. But “SOME” drivers came for the “Pictures and News” inside the cave to sell to the media which is illegal, that is why they are not allowed to enter the cave in the later.
Your comment didn't age well. It was Rick and John who banned the diver from the rescue after he brought the Brits back in when they had given up on the rescue and the children.
Unsung heroes but God knows your bravery and dedication and above all - THEY know they played a huge part in saving 13 human beings and ultimately that is all that matters. May God bless them.
Thanks for doing this film, I had no idea about this part of the story- although I was wondering who had laid the rope. I'm glad at least the Thai government properly recognized and rewarded those men.
YOU GUYS WERE GREAT PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE RESCUE OPERATIONS! KUDOS TO EVERYONE AS WELL LOCAL & INTERNATIONAL DIVERS WHO RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE THE KIDS & THE COACH! LIKEWISE TO ALL THE ONES WHO SUPPORTED THE RESCUE TEAM, THE FAMILIES& EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED & CONTRIBUTED IN ANY WAY !❤👌
I sing for you Ben, Maxim, Ivan and Poe. I respect all divers include our Finnish diwer. Also navy seals were impressive. I wonder why two British behave not so professional way, maybe there was "too big egos" but as the Maxim said, the result is most important. I send thanks to this untold story and huge respect Ben and Maxim and your group with navy seals🌻
In his book, Rick Stanton falsely insinuated that Ivan Karadzic, who was suffering from a fever and severe dehydration in the field hospital, was essentially seeking a way out of the rescue. And John Volanthen in his book said “Some of the Euro Divers only went into the cave once before deciding the work was not for them. The egotists in the group were noted too.” However, in reality, it was only Rick and John who gave up on the rescue and the children, opting for sightseeing instead. Besides of Ben's team (the Thai Navy Seals support team) and the Euro Divers, the British also downplayed and/or made false accusations or insinuations against the Governor, the Admiral, the Thai Navy Seals, and the SpaceX team, all of whom were essential to the successful outcome of the rescue but were not part of the British team.
YOU GUYS WERE GREAT PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE RESCUE OPERATIONS! KUDOS TO EVERYONE AS WELL LOCAL & INTERNATIONAL DIVERS WHO RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE THE KIDS & THE COACH ❤👌
Amazing. Thank you so much for your will to just “do” what you do and not only NOT give up but to give hope for others to follow, like a lit path you laid in the dark and despair. You’re super heroes.
So, basically the Brits were "losing hope" on it all until these two men came and forged on and laid the lines...then they made it almost to the finishing line, only for the Brits to take all the glory.
These men did a fantastic job and deserve the credit but never forget it was the admiral and the navy seals that continued when all decided it was too dangerous. Ben even mentions this- it’s what changed his mind to continue. The Thai people had to continue with or without international help because they couldn’t abandon their own. The only reason the British didn’t go home is because this team stayed behind- the British obviously knew and decided to wait to see what progress they made and between them had decided to let others risk their lives and do the dangerous work. They timed it perfectly- really disappointed in the British- it’s a shame that they behaved this way. Then again, I’m not surprised tbh.
It's a shame that with the whole world watching yet they couldn't get all these divers rebreathers systems instead of the standard scuba tanks. The French man wasn't a small guy and shouldn't have been carrying 4 tanks. They should've gotten him the re breather for safety reasons
Everyone did a part. It truly was a joint effort. But Max & Ben, WOW. 👏👏👏 The world needs to know more about this part. Mostly, we've just heard how 2 British divers found the boys & Dr Harris the anesthesiologist, who won the Australian award. Edited: in my original comment, I had mentioned about the rumors that had circulated, about why the British weren't on speaking terms with the 1st team anymore etc. A reply comment has explained the other side. So to not continue on the rumors, I have edited/deleted the original piece. All in all; the Thai Cave rescue was truly a joint effort. EVERYONE & every bit was critical. From the divers to pump workers, all risked their lives, to the people who donated all the food, cooks cooking, to the owners who donated all the lines used, all the pump materials, and... to the poor villagers who had given up their farmlands knowing full well their land would have no crops for a year. And still agreed unanimously to allow the flood waters to be diverted to flood their farm lands. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Without any one of those, the rescue may not of been successful.
This is absolutely incorrect. The British divers gave up on the rescue and children and went sightseeing at the Tham Pla temple when the Thai Seals with the help of Ben & Maksym finally managed to make progress and laid guideline. The Seals, Ben & Maksym who had little to none information of the cave were practically diving blind when they laid the guideline through the most COMPLEX part of the cave. Robert Harper and Vern Unsworth who explored the cave in the past and were familiar with its passageways were with Rick and John sightseeing. According to Rick Stanton before diving even was possible the British team had distanced themselves from the Thai Navy Seals and Ben's team and mainly worked with the US Air Force. The Thai Seals, Ben and Maksym recorded all their progress they have made in a waterproof notebook and when Ben had informed the British divers of the amazing progress and brought them back on the rescue with the help of Ruengrit (Pae), the British divers were briefed by the Thai Navy Seals (there is a existing video of it). And the next day when the children were found it was Ben personally who briefed the British divers of his progress in chamber 3, just moments before they dived (there is also a existing video of it). Elaine, the rumors you have heard could not be further from the truth.
@@ThaiCaveRescue Hi! Cool, thanks for replying! There were stupid "drama" rumors out around the 1 yr anniversary, and I think small news outlets, weirdos, just started embellishing, wanting to get ratings/attention? There'd be those saying "I know what really happened, I was there" etc. I myself, I am a regular person who lives halfway across the world in Canada. I personally don't believe rescuers would be that childish. Anyhow, I thank you for your reply comment. I will edit my original comment, so as to not spread anymore rumors, but not delete; so that it saves your comment. More people should really see this video clip, it's really awesome. These are things that so many people around the world didn't know.
I watched “the rescue” by National Geographic, I think they just too focus on 2 British guys, like make them main actors. they even brought up someone unrelated to the main issue like “amp” 😁 Make it like a good movie. But Thanks to you guys, this documentary answered the missing part ☺️ Ben, Max, Seva, navy team, all of you are amazing
Guys please share this video to everyone they should know who are the real heroes of this Thai cave rescue mission!! HATS OFF TO THESE HEROES! -> BRUCE KONEFE (BRUCE) -> RUENGRIT CHANGKWANYUEN () -> BEN REYMANENTS (BEN) -> MARKSYM POLYJEKA (MAX) -> VSEVOLOD KROBOV (SEVA) truly remarkable!!!!
Their work to find these lost souls was brave and heroic. Thankful for every single person who put their lives on the line and supported the miraculous rescue.
Has there ever been a movie made where they actually tell the TRUE story? I don't know why they can't do this. The truth is always stranger and more interesting than fiction.
Since the release of the documentary 13 LOST numerous complaints were made that the British divers Rick Stanton and John Volanthen in fact did credit Ben Reymenants and Maksym Polejaka for their essential contribution in finding the children, especially when Rick and John gave up on the rescue. Truth is Rick Stanton did not officially credit the two European divers until 3 years after the rescue (1 year after the release of 13 LOST) and John Volanthen never assigned any credit to their invaluable help. Even though in his book "Thirteen Lessons that Saved Thirteen Lives" John explained that one should always give credit where credit is due (Lesson 8). In fact John only discredited Ben Reymenants in his book and never even mentioned Maksym Polejaka once.
John made a ridiculous claim in his book that Ben, who is an exceedingly competent diver and taught high level diving courses for decades, pushed for an immediate extraction without making any plan whatsoever on the night the children were found. It's John's against Ben's word because nobody understood what was said between them on that night, not even Rick who sat right next to John during the argument. However one team, believe it or not, did push to dive the children out right there and then the same night. But it wasn't Ben, It was the British team, namely Vern Unsworth who told the New York Times that night that "It would be far better for the boys to be taken out immediately" Vern added " Because they have never dived before, they will have to learn very quickly, like in the next few hours."
Ben was also quoted in the same article, here is the link: archive.is/At3bm#selection-1271.0-1663.88
Ben was later blocked from entering the cave. To support this action, false claims were made that Ben had sold pictures and footage of the rescue and gave unauthorized interviews where he apparently had slagged off the British divers. But the truth is, when the British divers gave up on the rescue and the children, a reporter asked where the British divers were and Ben simply stated that he didn't know, but reports said that they had packed their bags and left. Master sergeant Derek Anderson, who is on record, said that Rick Stanton refused to work with Ben when he had returned just one day before the rescue and because the rescue team was already set with Rick as the leader and because the British team was under the wings of the US Air Force, they had no choice but to act upon Rick's request. Two Thai government officials also confirmed Derek Anderson's claim. Derek thought that Ben was a good diver and that all the accusations about Ben were conveyed to him by Rick but personally never made any negative observations of Ben.
When two leaders can not work together one has to leave, so simple is that and the USAF made a decision which Ben fully understood. But the way the ban of Ben was executed by hanging pamphlets with pictures grabbed from his facebook account can only be described as immoral, moverover the pamphlets looked more like a 19-century WANTED sign. Instead of handling the matter professionally and discreetly Gary Mitchel from the British Cave Rescue Council according to Rick Stanton approved flyers with Ben's pictures on it prohibiting him entrance into the cave. Knowing that hundreds if not thousands of cameras would pick up on it, the flyers were distributed all around the cave site and Chiang Rai airport. Of course the hungry media reported on it and caused irreversible damage to Ben's character. Even Rick Stanton personally called Gary Mitchel’s act unprofessional, unfair and harsh. Others just called it disgusting.
How sad. Its one thing to be not recognized for what you have done. And I believe both Ben and Maksym (and the unsung heroes that this documentary mentions) are absolutely fine with that, knowing what they've made possible. But its another thing to take credit for somebody elses effort (or worse, actively discredit that somebody with false allegations). Why do people behave like this? Especially people like these, who volunteer and risk their lives to save the lifes of others. Anyhow, I just found this documentation and saw it for the first time. It's wonderful! Thank you!
Whatever the actual circumstances, this documentary would have been better served being just a celebration of the feats of Ben, Maksym and co IMO. The constant little swipes against "the British" team sours the tone and make it appear more like a hit-piece than a celebration of unsung heroes. Ben & the other divers _are_ heroes, and are regarded as such in Thailand, just perhaps less well known internationally as the Media focus on the finding and the actual rescue (in which the 2 Aussies feature prominently). This part of the 18 days deserves to be told, the bitter tone detracts from it.
It’s really to sad, All this either by Hollywood,MEDIA or Ego’s This was a GROUP RESCUE!!! We should HONOUR ALL OR NONE!! I am thankful to all who played even the tiniest part in saving theses boys❤️🇨🇦
Sounds like textbook "intel" and govt and "private security" corporate cr ---. There were media and govt spook types swarming the place. Some, not all, trying to exploit the crisis and story. You probably should be suing for defamation, which would include discovery of exactly when John/Rick made their first media contacts.
By the children's account, they were about to die that 9th and 10th day, they had hit the end of all human endurance. HAD Ben and Maxim not pressed as they did ... God bless!
In every story of heroism there is someone that takes credit where credit isn't due. That's human pride and ego and people that can't accept their failure. "the person who says it can't be done is always interrupted by the person who just did it!"
UPDATE:
During the post-production of the documentary "13 Lost: The Untold Story of the Thai Cave Rescue," director Raimund Huber received an email from Rick Stanton, leader of the British rescue divers, facilitated by Ben Svasti, a liaison for the British divers.
Stanton's email, containing false accusations/assumptions, was seemingly aimed to influence the director’s project and discredit Ben Reymenants. The director refuted these accusations/assumptions and asked for evidence, but neither Stanton nor Ben Svasti have responded yet.
Here is the email, along with the director’s response to Rick Stanton (Ben Reymenants should not be confused with Ben Svasti): drive.google.com/file/d/1U2zWN13lAbp0qsWX6iCXUQbH25fXj2ea/view
The truth needs to be told.
So the ropes were laid by Ben and Maksym. And it was BEN who suggested to use the face mask for the boys.
The British found the boys BUT without 🇧🇪 and 🇫🇷 who built the infrastructure for 🇬🇧, the English will never find the boys on their own.
HEROES to Ben and
Maksym !!!!!
Dang
@@vincegoshi Ben was involved only in the search phase of the rescue, and there's a good reason for this. The movie "Thirteen Lives" is largely fictional, and the National Geographic documentary "The Rescue" presents the story from the perspective of the British divers, with Rick Stanton and John Volanthen having an exclusive deal (even the Euro Divers were all cut out). The documentary completely omits the crucial line-laying phase. Volanthen’s book does not even mention Reymenants during this process, and Stanton’s book provides only a fragmented account. Here is a short summary of the true story. Enjoy: qr.ae/ps8L0A
@@ThaiCaveRescue Why do you think a National Geographic (American company) and a movie by Ron Howard (an American director) would single out the British perspective? You are talking absolute garbage. Nice to see you are sponsored by Elon Musk 😂
@@Mk1Male you just proved our point: the entire narrative originates from Stanton & Co. When other significant figures shared their perspectives, Stanton attempted to intervene, seemingly to influence their narrative. And yes, you caught us-Elon Musk is paying us $190 million. Here is Musk's story: open.substack.com/pub/savingjournalism/p/the-real-thai-cave-rescue-pt-1-elon?r=3krx3e&
I would like to say thank you to Ben, Maksym and Savy...You are the true heroes, because you have laid out the pathway reaching the kids. The two Britishers should thank Ben, Maksym and Savy. Documentaries and TV series have highlighted the Australian Doctor and the British, but never mentioned both of you. However, they have forgotten to highlight Ben, Makysym and Savy big contribution. As always the Anglo Saxon people try to highlight their story. I am with you BEN, MAKSYM and SAVY. You are the true hero and the best. Kudos. Loves from Malaysia.
Cheers
When I watched the movie 13 lives I ask myself who laid the red ropes since I listen to many cave diver disaster stories enough to know that guide ropes are lifeline for diver. Now I know the heroes who laid it. Thank you.
I was asking this question too like we missed out on a whole story…
I just watched the movie today that's why I'm here. I thought the same! While watching this documentary, I'm a bit confused as to why they're not interviewing John and Rick and it turns out, these are different guys who actually did a LOT of job as well that deserves credit too! Omg.
@@cadmielcortejo4438 Unfortunately Rick Stanton declined to be on camera for this documentary
Ben and Maksym are the unsung heroes. You guys persevered when others thought it was impossible. Sadly not many people know your contribution and sacrifices. Thank you!
they could have been credited more for their utmost efforts. it is unfair that even Netflix do not mention/included these unsung heroes.
Yeah. But YOU still pay Netflix?
Fuk netflix
As a Thai people, I’d like to thank you every unsung heroes. I can only say what you’ve done never go waste. If you don’t expect anything from a good thing you do, the result will come back to you unexpectedly as well.
As an observer in this whole thing, I knew there were many, many stories we had not heard. The remarkable rescue was because each "group" did their job. I knew the lines were placed and were a very important part of this rescue. The bravery and persistence of this group was unsung but we all knew they were there. This rescue could not happen without EACH group of incredible men doing their job. Thank you.
I wonder why they wouldn't give Maksym a rebreather? Ben had one, so he could have continued on for hours, but not alone. Maksym had tanks which didn't allow him to continue, so they both turned back. After watching a dozen retellings of this story, the cockiness of some of the "heroes," who never mention Ben, Maksym, Pae or Seva and were pretty dismissive of the Thai Seal team doesn't sit so well with me.
@@ksc743 me too, I mean respect to both british divers, but I don’t like the way they treat Ben, his team was the main reason that those boys are found, the 2 british divers only have to do is scuba into the next chamber. I love how the Thai military give Ben his props and invited him to the palace.
I didn't know the lines or rope was there.I do agree with everyone had a part and everyone was very brave But I watched the movie a few times.He never mentioned Ben.smh.God sees everything
@@Dawgdidit456.dizzle right? The movie and TV series are not mentioning the two divers who actually made it work. Ben, Maksym and Seva did the most important job..
Thailand appreciates the help from all countries at this time
Thank you for sharing this story, I watched the British version. Now I know, the ropes were laid by Ben and Maksym. Yes, the British found the boys BUT without 🇧🇪 and 🇫🇷 who built the infrastructure for 🇬🇧, the English will never find the boys on their own.
HEROES to Ben, Bruce, Pae and Maksym !!!!!
I must have watched 6 documentaries and movies about this rescue, this one just came across my UA-cam feed. It really helps gel all the glitz given to the British divers into perspective. We know at least a dozen international divers participated, but only 3 became acknowledged heros. I'm so glad these other intimate stories of this miraculous successful global effort are out there and not washed away with time. I live 7km from the cave, been there before during and after, not the most inviting habitat to be in under any conditions. Thank you for all your efforts and the great risks you overcame towards the glorious outcome. Thank you.
I watched the Netflix series over the last few days and I wondered how much was true events. Sad the Brits had that attitude. Certainly took a huge team of many very intelligent and skilled people.
Reality.. salute to all who had made efforts & scarified to the rescue eg the unsung heroes ..!!
I’m glad the tai people honored them. These guys definitely did the hardest part of the rescue!
Thai not tai
I am British and I would like to apologise for the way you were treated. You should all have got the recognition. It was an international effort. I am proud of the British team but proud of you too ❤
I’m sad & disappointed, that the new movie didn’t depict & recognize the story of these brave men. I’m so glad I saw this video! I knew there was more to the story, and this clarified much. Thank 🙏🏾 you gentlemen, for you courage & selflessness.
Ron Howard acknowleges there is much he had to leave out because of time constraints concentrated on the actual rescue.
@@jorr1334 my guess would be he didn't want to get involved in the politics of what went down. So much easier to start an English film with 2 well-spoken English people. What a shame.
As they say in this documentary many heroes have reached the top on the backs of others. The European team deserved recognition for their role in this story. Ben getting sucked into that narrow passage could so easily have ended in disaster. But he ultimately discovered the passage that led to the boys, even if the British prevented him from participating any further. Egos are something else.
What is the name of movie I would like to check in out please
@@gleaghollamon2804 I think they're talking about Thirteen Lives, general release was in July and avail on Amazon Prime.
The Rescue was released last year, avail on Nat Geo.
There's a also a Netflix documentary/movie coming out this month.
Thank you very much I have to be 100% honest now that I've heard the real story I'm not even sure I want to see that movie lol but again thank you very much
I am Thai. I am so happy to watch this documentary which make me know more the true story. I am so truly thankful from the bottom of my heart for unsung heroes.
We don't forget all the workers who even moved a rock, or cooked a meal everyone saved those boys and we appreciate you!
Thank you Ben Reymenants and Maksym Polejaka for your bravery and never giving up when others did. This is truly a remarkable story and it's so sad that the Netflix series did not even give acknowledgement either not any media interviews that I've seen. I salute you and all the unsung heroes.
What the hell is with spamming the Ben and Max all over the place? 5000 people took part! Enough with this shit
This needs to be made into a movie, they need their recognition!!!
I have been following every documentary and footages of thai rescue in detail..this was a fresh perspective and I could see a bit of politics in here..although it was for a good cause I appreciate you people were mature enough not to make it a news and lay low as the priority was their safety and rescue..you opened our eyes and really appreciate it guys..surely unsung heroes
I can’t imagine how the divers went through the water with no visibility. Imagine being first to find a way through and making how many wrong turns before the right. Then realizing bringing the kids through with you. For a rescue. The bravery is insanity!
There is but yet one more unsung hero the biggest most important of all "COACH"
he not only kept 12 young boys alive for 10 long days in blind darkness by keeping calm praying together, by way of meditation. In darkness he taught all 12 boys how ro find water in the rocks to fish for food with bare hands by way of sound. Taught them how to breath through their fears , not to panic in order to conserve their energy .
Most importantly
Courage to keep fighting not only for themselves but for one another by never giving up hope!......
Coach🕊 Guardian.....
i am BRITISH and i was very proud of our divers , and i must say you two divers deserve has much praise has them , you did a great job , so did the seals the guys who brought the pumps in to reduce the flow of water that must of helped the divers , i have learned something watching this ,
Like you, @George, I am British and in fact a cave diver as well. I did not know about this side of the story. I do think its very poor indeed that it took Rick 3 years to acknowledge Ben and Max, and a disgrace that John never did. As to how Ben was treated by the Mitchell fellow from BCRC, that was an absolute disgrace. I hope more people watch this video to better understand the contribution that Ben and Max made. They deserve equal credit alongside the British team.
@@ahamilton63 watch the cave great movie ?
no, "your divers" are an embarrassment to your country!!
sure they did good in getting the kids out, but besides that their behavior was disgusting!
Absolute respect to these guys, they are heroes.
My dismay is that, not only the divers featured here but also the large numbers of support volunteers who have only been included as, “Oh yes there were others who helped,” without asking for or being given credit or acknowledgement. They too deserve much more recognition than has been offered. Personally, I am able to only name one, who I count as a personal friend, so it’s not even remotely appropriate for me to identify him. Enough for him to know that he has my undying respect! 👌
I think the lack of recognition is disgraceful, each nation involved should be encouraged to provide a roll of honour for their own Nationals, to be displayed along with the rolling credits of ANY and ALL media regarding this truly international cooperative operation!
Wow, I’m glad I watched this version. Credits to Ben & Max. I’m sorry that the Brits took all the credit for this. In the Netflix movie, it depicted the two Australian’s are the real brains behind the final rescue where they were sedated and taken out by the divers. I’m glad Ben & the guys got the recognition they deserved by the Thai president. All in all, the kids are rescued by a huge team effort. Everyone is a hero in their own right. At least the kids are alive and well, returned to their families. I hope they close this cave down.
that part stood out to me the most. i wanted more info about the divers when watching on netflix, so i’m glad we get to see their pov here
The cave isn't at fault. It has been visited safely by many before.
What needs to be done is changing the work culture in Thailand. It should not hierarchy based.
The incident could have been prevented if employees at the weather centre had the authority to issue a public warning about monsoon starting.
The slow process of getting critical information to the higher ups and then waiting for their response. That really played a strong part in this unfortunate incident.
If public warning had been issues just a little faster. The soccer team would not have entered the caves.
'Took all the credit'???.. I must have missed that bit,
2 Ukrainians not even mentioned , 2 people divers which are Ukrainians suppose to get credit because it was riskiest part of all mission ( mission impossible) became possible
Thousands of people were involved but boo hoo Ben and Max not mentioned. 188 medals were handed out by King of Thailand, please why were not all 188 mentioned in the dramatization? Ben and Max should be spammed all over youtube? What about the other 186?
The true "heroes" are the ones we dont talk about.
I am an American living in Thailand and of course I followed this rescue with rapt attention while it was in progress. As others have said, I am so happy to hear Ben, Seva's and Max's side of the story. On behalf of everyone in Thailand and around the world, thank you for everything you did and for the class and grace you demonstrate in this retelling of the story. It is fitting that you were with the Thai Seals because you exhibit the compassion, kindness, and humility of the Thai people. As someone also said, what you do out of the goodness of your heart will come back to you perhaps through an unexpected channel, but it will come back. It will be wonderful to see how that happens, or has already.
Synopsis:
The untold story is that Rick Stanton and John Volathen of The British Cave Rescue Council initially found it too difficult and dangerous to penetrate into the cave and were about to give up when two other divers were called in, Ben Reymenants of Belgium and Maksym Polejaka of Ukraine.
Ben and Maksym did much of the ground work in way of exploring the right side of the T junction and laying of guide ropes through the most difficult sections- making the rescue possible and yet are barely mentioned in most articles and documentaries. In 12 Lost interview, Ben states he was the first to say the kids would need to be brought out in full face masks and was ridiculed by the Brits and shunted off to manage the O2 tank replenishment station.
However both were recognized by The Thai Royal Navy and His Majesty The King to receive medal commendations.
Brilliant 🤩🤩
Fantastic story, after this happened I have to say I was a bit Thai cave rescued out but this was completely engaging a story. The 2 divers Ben and Max are just awesome in what they did for those kids, strangers, and without deserved recognition. And they are understandably pissed off, but not bitter. I can’t even conceptualise how they did what they did, leaving jobs and loved ones to dive in murky water and deal with international ego politics. I never could see myself even dreaming I might risk it all for a dozen kids I didn’t know. Now that I can own that I’m not hero material, how about those British? To be fair, of course they too were extremely heroic, and deserved allthe praise they got but I couldn’t help but think, Maksym and Ben: been snubbed, robbed and I the end, pwned by the English? I’m Australian, welcome to my world!
We had to send the rapists and paedophiles somewhere
Your last two sentences are utterly ridiculous.
I have always heard of the British divers but not of these guys who have put the ropes and did a lot of the ground work. Thanks for sharing this story. Good grief, just watching this video of the under water work gives me lots of anxiety. You must be truly fearless to want to be a cave diver. Brave men all of you and true heroes for not giving up.
I'm glad I watched this version of events before seeing any other documentation of this rescue. All of the people involved deserve credit for doing something most would never even attempt, but especially the ones who laid the lines. It is the most dangerous part of cave diving.
Fr they were basically the first daredevils who gave the way to the rescue
I think everyone didn’t expect anything; it was a beautiful story, and thank you to everyone who went there and helped the boys, even the farmers; when I watched the movie, I thought there was a gap in the story, and this was the missing one.
Good job, Ben Reymenants, Maksym Polejaka, Bruce Konefe, Ruengrit Changkwanyuen, Vsevolod Korobov and to all the hundreds of volunteers - The Thai Navy Seals, divers, engineers, rock climbers, drainage specialists, medical volunteers, even the cooks, corporates, civilians and businessmen who donated equipments, food, and daily supplies. The world is thanking you for the hard work, persistence, bravery, generosity and selflessness during the rescue. Dont worry, real recognition comes from the Higher Power Above. Some people may missed giving you credit but when we all pass from this world, on our Judgment Day, all will be revealed. Sleep in peace at night knowing that you did all your best. 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍🎉🎉 🎉
Great Sacrifice - Ben, Max and Seva.. you did a great job to save lives.
Watching Thirteen Lives I knew something significant was missing in the story and this is the missing piece ..... Great job guys!!!! Awesome!!!
Yes i was thinking the same too!
I watched Thirteen Lives first and then this and really notice a difference between the two.
There were so many parts and many groups in this operation. May be the movie just picked up a part of them to show out. No one can tell all details of that situation. We just know when they talk out loud. I very appreciate every single of THE TEAM.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💝😊
@@dr.davidenglish778 13 lives was made in Australia , two movies think where made in Thailand has the rescue was going on. the best movie i have seen is THE CAVE , been about 6 movies made of the rescue . in the CAVE it was the divers who gave the kids the injection . made up by the Australian doctor , i live in Australia and
I know this is not a laughing matter. Personally, I consider this rescue the most audacious thing that's ever happened in my lifetime. But I have to smile when I hear Maxim say " I was close to be stucked, he WAS stucked". Thanks to Maxim he didn't stay stucked. Beautiful.
I tend to observe that the people least concerned about personal recognition and credit are the most effective at getting results. In many instances big egos, often those of legit NPD cases, will come in to take credit and glory after the hard work is done. This story seems to at least somewhat keep with that trend.
This was not meantioned in 13 Lives. If totally true, the more famous 3 divers from the movie ought to have explicitly mentioned the efforts of these men who pioneered the way to the children.
In the National Geographic Documentary Rick Stanton DID mention and thank Ben and the NAVY SEALS for persevering when he and John thought there was no hope. He thanked Ben for continuing to put the line.
Nat Geo ‘The Rescue’ - great documentary
@@danbroughton1 i like the cave ,
Not entirely true. Rick Stanton thanked Ben 3 years after the rescue (1 year after the release of this documentary) and John Volanthen never thanked or shared the credit to this day.
Thanks for this video from another angle. Watched many videos and agree that names Ben n Max did not pop out alot. As depicted by the Netflix series, the official story must have much political "relationship" at play.
Thank you for bringing this to light... These guys are no longer 'unsung' heros thanks to this. Truly an incredible story.
I am so sorry they treated you guys like that Ben. That really makes me sick. The British are very stuck up. So happy you guys got credited. You and Max did Amazing. Great Job 🙏🏼
Glad to watch this documentary... Ben and Maxsym did it on another level of bravery where you guys risk your life to dive into the unknown laying the line. Thanks you Ben, Maxsym, Savy and Pae... Disappointed with others documentaries not mentioning any of your guys efforts...
Thanks guys, for share all of this with us. I always thought that there was something more about the British’s story. They were incredible, but you’re incredible too. God knows that… the true recognition comes from Him. Don’t be upset. That rescue it was only possible because of all those parts working together. We can’t talk about just two heroes at all.
Титанічна робота і неймовірна відвага, яку продемонстрували Максим, Бен, морські котики Таїланду і всі першопрохідці цієї небезпечної операції з порятунку, заслуговують окремого фільму! Особисті амбіції і "перетягування ковдри" як прояви низького людського єства, втім, не відміняють героїзму британців. Головне - життя, які було врятовано неймовірною жертовністю простих людей, котрі об'єдналися для створення цього дива! 💙
Ben Reymenants and Maksym Polejaka thank you.. you are hero with a diamond heart
An Eye opening! I‘ve many questions while i was watching „the rescue“ documentary, and this documentary answered them all.
I appreciate the hard work of the team.
You guys are awesome!
Extremely brave of you real unsung heroes who really needs to be appreciated and known for their part of laying the rope which was the extremely crucial part in this whole mission. Great job. Even after several years of this incident it’s so sad that the world still thinks it’s the Britishers who did everything.
What an incredible group of men. Bless them all for their courage and dedication - in addition to integrity, intellect,and wit. 🌻
Many thanks to : ☞ Ben, Sevo and Maksym, who were unfortunately a little forgotten about this rescue 🌊🤿⛑️💦 in Thailand... 👏🏼
🆒 🤝 ☻ 🙏🏼 ✓
Congratulations to all rescuers ! 👏🏼 🙏🏼 ✓
Thank you for all you have done. Although you may not be internationally recognized and celebrated, I hope you all know you how instrumental your dives were for the rescue mission. I’m glad the Thai Prime Minister and the seal team celebrated and honored you. At first, I felt very disheartening for you, but I’m glad the Thai team knew of your selfless sacrifice and gave you the honor, respect, and credit you all deserved. This is how Thai people are and I’m proud to call myself a Thai person. Thank you again for your hard work and dedication.
just watched 13 lives, and my question about the red rope finally answered here.. i knew there alway more to a story,. kudos to these men..
Outstanding work! Brilliant documentary! In the 2022 film Ben's team's work was replaced by the Thai Navy seals entirely. It's just filmmaking but I am glad this documentary was made.
Synopsis: This video is about two divers who laid down some guide rope which helped the later dives (they were still a long way a way from the boys) and they did not have the right breathing regulation system to allow one of the divers to go long enough. The one who did have the right equipment probably could have made it to the boys but divers always have to go in pairs. The pair also have some 'near misses' e.g. diving watch broke, getting sucked in to a current, some of the rope they laid was not tied properly and floated away.
After the Brits reach the boys the divers in this video do not dive in the cave again. It is not made clear in the video why they are asked to leave (around 40 minutes in) but they state that they go back home to work. Just before this there is a scene of one diver pouring large glasses of vodka to celebrate the boys being found. A few days later one diver returns to help load oxygen tanks and the other who did not have the correct equipment does not return (His diving breathing regulation system would not have given him enough oxygen to reach the boys and get back).
In the end the divers are bitter and jealous that the Brits got so much fame and attention and they did not. The two divers are invited to a Thai palace for a reunion ceremony and are given an award for their efforts and bravery.
The video does not mention the experience and skills that the successful British and Aussie rescue team had (anaesthetics, cave rescuing) which ultimately meant that they were the ones who saved the boys lives, not these two. It also does not mention that there were thousands of people involved in this operation and that every miniscule role played an important part.
Thanks for your comment. I agree they are bitter and jealous. Attempting to make more of their contributions than they are worth. The cave divers who did the rescue have done many rescues over 30+ years. These guys aren’t in their class both as divers and as humans. True hero’s don’t add up tshirts and caps, or vague mentions by navy seals. Rick Stanton et Al didn’t brag, just got on with the job. Now they have received proper recognition people like the “stars” of this video try to steal credit.
THANK YOU BEN, MAKSYM, SEVA, AND POR FOR YOUR COURAGE AND DEDICATION!
Totally amazing. I heard the children were givin a sedation to get them out alive .no mention of this diver who was an anastesiaoligost. So they would not panic .he is one of the unsung heros .it worked and very risky . Either way God was with the children all the way .God bless everyone involved in this rescue your all 🙏🙏🙏 all elite talented heros . Thank you for your service,.love you all . Your all the best of the best 👍🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸
Now this is a documentary! It has a heart and soul in it. Unbiased and fair. Hats off to you unsung heroes!
Awesome Film! Huge respect to Ben, Max and Seva! Thank you guys!
When someone can tell you the whole story and not just the ending of it is when you know they are true.
I don't want to be the guy who point who made the biggest contribution, but I would say each and every efforts involved in this rescue mission should be applauded all the same, all of them! It's pointless arguing who did their best, cause all of them did. We're just people after all, no one is perfect. Also rest in peace to the two rescuer who passed away from this mission(one directly, and other indirectly, from what I read). Your bravery live on!
Say that to all the Australians and NZers that were put in the frontlines by Britain that died like lambs to the slaughter. It is obvious some have taken credit for something they didnt deserve in this story - glad I know now it was Ben and Max that were behind the real rescue.
Indra - I agree. When 'one/some' (very understandably) lost hope, others stepped in and pushed forward, and so and so forth. Without the team on top of the mountain, directing the water away from the sink holes the rescue would not have happened; without the strength of the coach keeping the children calm, the ending would have been tragic; etc. etc. etc. ...and so and so forth. Every person involved played a their very important part - the aim was to rescue those poor children and their coach - the aim was achieved. Precious lives were saved, by everyone stepping in and stepping out, and pulling together to achieve that aim. A magnificent effort from each and every one concerned - it upsets me when people sour this fantastic and magnificent happy ending with negative unhelpful comments.
@@coopermorehead Yeah, I somehow think the comment you replied to wasn't talking about the history of Australian and Kiwi soldiers when fighting with the British...
Definitely a great untold story of the rescue!!! The storytelling was clear and articulate!!!! Hats off to Ben and Maksym for doing their part of this incredible rescue!!!!
Congratulations on a job well done guys. True heroes doesn’t seek fame and credits.
Indeed , like Max said 'In any situation I dont mind because the important thing is the result and it was a good result' Max truly has a fantastic outlook.
I feel sad they werent credited though...
thats not fair...
Its hurtful.
Every ounce of hard work deserves recognition...
Ego should be one of the 8 Deadly Sins!...
Amazing story! It filled the void! You guys are heroes! You did such crucial work! So well done! You will be also remembered now by all who followed that rescue! THANK YOU! xoxoxox
As usual complex procedures require team effort ,and the more seamless it is the better it usually turns out .anybody who has performed difficult difficult surgeries ,difficult military operations...etc knows or should know that ,maybe not the general public but still I knew there had to have been more specialists involved for it to have worked so well, I’m glad those people were portrayed in this documentary I wish they would have been recognized more even by the British team and internationally .To them goes my recognition ,for their humbleness for the quiet , unnoticed but resilient and strong effort .It should be known that these people were the cornerstone of the rescue.
We, Malaysian - Salute you!!! Thank you for everything you do!
A must see documentary! The movie sums it up very well: 'In nearly every epic story, there are heroes who stood on the shoulders of others to achieve the impossible'. Thank you. You are true heroes!
Every one who came to help are heroes, No one stood on the shoulders of others! I followed this news everyday all day as a Thai and there are many interviews from volunteer drivers, Thai SEALs and documentaries in Thailand that told the same thing that the British drivers are the main key of this successful and somethings different from this documentary. However, there are many drivers take turn to work in various tasks and focused to help, not to show themselves to the media. But “SOME” drivers came for the “Pictures and News” inside the cave to sell to the media which is illegal, that is why they are not allowed to enter the cave in the later.
Your comment didn't age well. It was Rick and John who banned the diver from the rescue after he brought the Brits back in when they had given up on the rescue and the children.
Unsung heroes but God knows your bravery and dedication and above all - THEY know they played a huge part in saving 13 human beings and ultimately that is all that matters. May God bless them.
Thank you everyone in this clip
You are hero .thank you with my heart
yeah I wish the media would cover more on more parts such as this of the operation. These guys deserve more recognition.
All of you guys are the true heroes of the century...
Now your unsung hero story was properly told. With my respect and grateful.
Thanks for doing this film, I had no idea about this part of the story- although I was wondering who had laid the rope. I'm glad at least the Thai government properly recognized and rewarded those men.
This two diver are the real heroes
this is going to history nobody done before credits to all hero
you guy are super hero for all
whoever dive into the cave that day, you're our national hero 🙏 with the utmost respect.
YOU GUYS WERE GREAT PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE RESCUE OPERATIONS! KUDOS TO EVERYONE AS WELL LOCAL & INTERNATIONAL DIVERS WHO RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE THE KIDS & THE COACH! LIKEWISE TO ALL THE ONES WHO SUPPORTED THE RESCUE TEAM, THE FAMILIES& EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED & CONTRIBUTED IN ANY WAY !❤👌
Ben and Maksym are true heroes!
I sing for you Ben, Maxim, Ivan and Poe. I respect all divers include our Finnish diwer. Also navy seals were impressive. I wonder why two British behave not so professional way, maybe there was "too big egos" but as the Maxim said, the result is most important. I send thanks to this untold story and huge respect Ben and Maxim and your group with navy seals🌻
In his book, Rick Stanton falsely insinuated that Ivan Karadzic, who was suffering from a fever and severe dehydration in the field hospital, was essentially seeking a way out of the rescue. And John Volanthen in his book said “Some of the Euro Divers only went into the cave once before deciding the work was not for them. The egotists in the group were noted too.”
However, in reality, it was only Rick and John who gave up on the rescue and the children, opting for sightseeing instead. Besides of Ben's team (the Thai Navy Seals support team) and the Euro Divers, the British also downplayed and/or made false accusations or insinuations against the Governor, the Admiral, the Thai Navy Seals, and the SpaceX team, all of whom were essential to the successful outcome of the rescue but were not part of the British team.
@@ThaiCaveRescue blah blah blah
ภาพยนตร์นี้ทำได้ดีมาก ขอบคุณมากๆ เรื่องราว ของพวกคุณ มันเหลือเชื่อมาก มันจะเป็นที่จดจำของผู้คนอย่างแน่นอน ผู้อยู่เบื้องหลังความสำเร็จในการกู้ภัยที่ยากลำบากที่สุดอีกหนึ่งเหตุการณ์ พวกคุณคือฮีโร่ที่แท้จริง ขอบคุณจริงๆครับ🙏
YOU GUYS WERE GREAT PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE RESCUE OPERATIONS! KUDOS TO EVERYONE AS WELL LOCAL & INTERNATIONAL DIVERS WHO RISKED THEIR LIVES TO SAVE THE KIDS & THE COACH ❤👌
Amazing. Thank you so much for your will to just “do” what you do and not only NOT give up but to give hope for others to follow, like a lit path you laid in the dark and despair. You’re super heroes.
So, basically the Brits were "losing hope" on it all until these two men came and forged on and laid the lines...then they made it almost to the finishing line, only for the Brits to take all the glory.
yes, they have lost hope.
Shame of this Brits attitude
These men did a fantastic job and deserve the credit but never forget it was the admiral and the navy seals that continued when all decided it was too dangerous. Ben even mentions this- it’s what changed his mind to continue. The Thai people had to continue with or without international help because they couldn’t abandon their own. The only reason the British didn’t go home is because this team stayed behind- the British obviously knew and decided to wait to see what progress they made and between them had decided to let others risk their lives and do the dangerous work. They timed it perfectly- really disappointed in the British- it’s a shame that they behaved this way. Then again, I’m not surprised tbh.
Thanks for telling us about the "shoulders" upon whom the 'heroes"stood, and did not even have the esteem to thank.
It's a shame that with the whole world watching yet they couldn't get all these divers rebreathers systems instead of the standard scuba tanks. The French man wasn't a small guy and shouldn't have been carrying 4 tanks. They should've gotten him the re breather for safety reasons
Everyone did a part. It truly was a joint effort.
But Max & Ben, WOW. 👏👏👏 The world needs to know more about this part.
Mostly, we've just heard how 2 British divers found the boys & Dr Harris the anesthesiologist, who won the Australian award.
Edited: in my original comment, I had mentioned about the rumors that had circulated, about why the British weren't on speaking terms with the 1st team anymore etc.
A reply comment has explained the other side. So to not continue on the rumors, I have edited/deleted the original piece.
All in all; the Thai Cave rescue was truly a joint effort. EVERYONE & every bit was critical. From the divers to pump workers, all risked their lives, to the people who donated all the food, cooks cooking, to the owners who donated all the lines used, all the pump materials, and... to the poor villagers who had given up their farmlands knowing full well their land would have no crops for a year. And still agreed unanimously to allow the flood waters to be diverted to flood their farm lands.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Without any one of those, the rescue may not of been successful.
This is absolutely incorrect. The British divers gave up on the rescue and children and went sightseeing at the Tham Pla temple when the Thai Seals with the help of Ben & Maksym finally managed to make progress and laid guideline. The Seals, Ben & Maksym who had little to none information of the cave were practically diving blind when they laid the guideline through the most COMPLEX part of the cave. Robert Harper and Vern Unsworth who explored the cave in the past and were familiar with its passageways were with Rick and John sightseeing. According to Rick Stanton before diving even was possible the British team had distanced themselves from the Thai Navy Seals and Ben's team and mainly worked with the US Air Force.
The Thai Seals, Ben and Maksym recorded all their progress they have made in a waterproof notebook and when Ben had informed the British divers of the amazing progress and brought them back on the rescue with the help of Ruengrit (Pae), the British divers were briefed by the Thai Navy Seals (there is a existing video of it).
And the next day when the children were found it was Ben personally who briefed the British divers of his progress in chamber 3, just moments before they dived (there is also a existing video of it).
Elaine, the rumors you have heard could not be further from the truth.
@@ThaiCaveRescue Hi!
Cool, thanks for replying!
There were stupid "drama" rumors out around the 1 yr anniversary, and I think small news outlets, weirdos, just started embellishing, wanting to get ratings/attention?
There'd be those saying "I know what really happened, I was there" etc.
I myself, I am a regular person who lives halfway across the world in Canada.
I personally don't believe rescuers would be that childish.
Anyhow, I thank you for your reply comment. I will edit my original comment, so as to not spread anymore rumors, but not delete; so that it saves your comment.
More people should really see this video clip, it's really awesome. These are things that so many people around the world didn't know.
We have never forgotten all of you, unsung heroes.
Thank you heroes🇨🇦we can all be daily selfless heroes. That’s how we honour these heroes. Including those who gave their lives
I will support you. Even if others can't see Please know that we can see you. And thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I watched “the rescue” by National Geographic, I think they just too focus on 2 British guys, like make them main actors. they even brought up someone unrelated to the main issue like “amp” 😁 Make it like a good movie. But Thanks to you guys, this documentary answered the missing part ☺️ Ben, Max, Seva, navy team, all of you are amazing
You all are my heroes and frankly, have conducted yourselves as true gentlemen and are an inspiration for us all. God Bless!
Knowing the great deeds you guys have done, I am honored as a diver.
We all know it was a massive team effort. Thank you to every one of you. I live in CR for many years. Thank you every one.
Guys please share this video to everyone they should know who are the real heroes of this Thai cave rescue mission!!
HATS OFF TO THESE HEROES!
-> BRUCE KONEFE (BRUCE)
-> RUENGRIT CHANGKWANYUEN ()
-> BEN REYMANENTS (BEN)
-> MARKSYM POLYJEKA (MAX)
-> VSEVOLOD KROBOV (SEVA)
truly remarkable!!!!
You guys are super…i was thinking all the time who had laid the ropes… now i found my answer …with all Respect..🙏🙏🙏
Their work to find these lost souls was brave and heroic. Thankful for every single person who put their lives on the line and supported the miraculous rescue.
Has there ever been a movie made where they actually tell the TRUE story? I don't know why they can't do this. The truth is always stranger and more interesting than fiction.
Thanks for the documentary and knowing who laid the guide ropes. These heroes I think did not received the recognition for their efforts.
They clear the line for the British divers to get through the kids. These divers did the extra ordinary also ... Thebravest heroes
Thank you very much for the group who first driver into the cave for do the baseline.you are hero.
พวกคุณไม่ได้ถูกลืม เพียงแต่ไม่ได้ถูกกล่าวถึงต่างหาก
อย่าเสียใจเลย การเสียสละของพวกคุณ คือสิ่งที่กล้าหาญมาก จงภูมิใจในสิ่งที่คุณทำ พวกคุณทำได้ดีมาก
สิ่งที่พวกคุณทำเหมือนการปิดทองหลังพระ ทำความดีไม่จำเป็นต้องให้ใครเห็น แค่เราเห็นของเราเอง เราก็สุขใจแล้ว
Amazing!!! Unsung heroes for sure. Thank you all for your help, dedication, and bravery. ❤️❤️❤️
I think that Hollywood must make a movie about it. Ben, Maxim, Seva, I really proud of you!
Since the release of the documentary 13 LOST numerous complaints were made that the British divers Rick Stanton and John Volanthen in fact did credit Ben Reymenants and Maksym Polejaka for their essential contribution in finding the children, especially when Rick and John gave up on the rescue. Truth is Rick Stanton did not officially credit the two European divers until 3 years after the rescue (1 year after the release of 13 LOST) and John Volanthen never assigned any credit to their invaluable help. Even though in his book "Thirteen Lessons that Saved Thirteen Lives" John explained that one should always give credit where credit is due (Lesson 8). In fact John only discredited Ben Reymenants in his book and never even mentioned Maksym Polejaka once.
John made a ridiculous claim in his book that Ben, who is an exceedingly competent diver and taught high level diving courses for decades, pushed for an immediate extraction without making any plan whatsoever on the night the children were found. It's John's against Ben's word because nobody understood what was said between them on that night, not even Rick who sat right next to John during the argument. However one team, believe it or not, did push to dive the children out right there and then the same night. But it wasn't Ben, It was the British team, namely Vern Unsworth who told the New York Times that night that "It would be far better for the boys to be taken out immediately" Vern added " Because they have never dived before, they will have to learn very quickly, like in the next few hours."
Ben was also quoted in the same article, here is the link: archive.is/At3bm#selection-1271.0-1663.88
Ben was later blocked from entering the cave. To support this action, false claims were made that Ben had sold pictures and footage of the rescue and gave unauthorized interviews where he apparently had slagged off the British divers. But the truth is, when the British divers gave up on the rescue and the children, a reporter asked where the British divers were and Ben simply stated that he didn't know, but reports said that they had packed their bags and left.
Master sergeant Derek Anderson, who is on record, said that Rick Stanton refused to work with Ben when he had returned just one day before the rescue and because the rescue team was already set with Rick as the leader and because the British team was under the wings of the US Air Force, they had no choice but to act upon Rick's request. Two Thai government officials also confirmed Derek Anderson's claim. Derek thought that Ben was a good diver and that all the accusations about Ben were conveyed to him by Rick but personally never made any negative observations of Ben.
When two leaders can not work together one has to leave, so simple is that and the USAF made a decision which Ben fully understood. But the way the ban of Ben was executed by hanging pamphlets with pictures grabbed from his facebook account can only be described as immoral, moverover the pamphlets looked more like a 19-century WANTED sign. Instead of handling the matter professionally and discreetly Gary Mitchel from the British Cave Rescue Council according to Rick Stanton approved flyers with Ben's pictures on it prohibiting him entrance into the cave. Knowing that hundreds if not thousands of cameras would pick up on it, the flyers were distributed all around the cave site and Chiang Rai airport. Of course the hungry media reported on it and caused irreversible damage to Ben's character. Even Rick Stanton personally called Gary Mitchel’s act unprofessional, unfair and harsh. Others just called it disgusting.
How sad. Its one thing to be not recognized for what you have done. And I believe both Ben and Maksym (and the unsung heroes that this documentary mentions) are absolutely fine with that, knowing what they've made possible.
But its another thing to take credit for somebody elses effort (or worse, actively discredit that somebody with false allegations). Why do people behave like this? Especially people like these, who volunteer and risk their lives to save the lifes of others.
Anyhow, I just found this documentation and saw it for the first time. It's wonderful! Thank you!
Whatever the actual circumstances, this documentary would have been better served being just a celebration of the feats of Ben, Maksym and co IMO. The constant little swipes against "the British" team sours the tone and make it appear more like a hit-piece than a celebration of unsung heroes. Ben & the other divers _are_ heroes, and are regarded as such in Thailand, just perhaps less well known internationally as the Media focus on the finding and the actual rescue (in which the 2 Aussies feature prominently). This part of the 18 days deserves to be told, the bitter tone detracts from it.
It’s really to sad, All this either by Hollywood,MEDIA or Ego’s This was a GROUP RESCUE!!! We should HONOUR ALL OR NONE!! I am thankful to all who played even the tiniest part in saving theses boys❤️🇨🇦
Sounds like textbook "intel" and govt and "private security" corporate cr ---. There were media and govt spook types swarming the place. Some, not all, trying to exploit the crisis and story. You probably should be suing for defamation, which would include discovery of exactly when John/Rick made their first media contacts.
By the children's account, they were about to die that 9th and 10th day, they had hit the end of all human endurance. HAD Ben and Maxim not pressed as they did ... God bless!
In every story of heroism there is someone that takes credit where credit isn't due. That's human pride and ego and people that can't accept their failure.
"the person who says it can't be done is always interrupted by the person who just did it!"
Thank you all from Thailand. How can I explain my feeling word by word? Some story is a part of all. Thank you again.