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I love the start of this bit so much lol
“In one of Star trek’s most controversial episodes-“
“Threshold”
“…Threshold”
That one was Wild
Hey, he specifically said Voyager, that's important. If he hadn't said that, there'd be three times as many episodes on TNG alone, Voyager's just too bland to be controversial often. When you know it's Voyager, it's either Threshold, or the Very Special Episode about how hypnotists are giving people false memories that reads like an MRA screed about false rape accusations, or the one about how Native Americans had literally no culture before they were given one by aliens from space. And nobody ever remembers those other two.
@@manjackson2772I DONT EVEN REMEMBER THOSE TWO
@@arbyw.1889 Season 4 Episode 17, "Retrospect", Season 2 Episode 9, "Tattoo".
@@manjackson2772 Also the one where two characters merge in a transporter accident and the solution to separate them again is deliberately framed as murdering the newly fused person.
Woolie says Quantum Leap and everyone immediately knows why they start laughing
Good serotonin
There's like at least a dozen different episodes that could've popped in their head in that moment, and the laughs that ensued would have been justifiable for every single of them.
"I'm 😢"
Is it I'm Black? I never watched it.
@@RavenCloak13It’s a word starting with an R. There’s your hint.
>"Oh yeah, he was Italian."
>"That's the worst."
I guess in Pat's head, that's the next French/Brit.
Not even the right fake Native. Voyager's fake Native was Jackie Marks, who if you sound his last name out, you might pick up that his family came from the more germanic part of Europe.
Someone clip that for later use
The power of *Ambiguously Swarthy*
My face when Pat told Woolie about the planet of the angry black people. What a pure gift Woolie gets from his friend Pat
Oh wow, we need to get Woolie to watch "Code of Honor."
And Pat didn't even have to tell him that the angry black men's plot was entirely about kidnapping the blond white woman.
@@lexofexcel886 And immediately afterwards, he needs to get into Stargate SG-1 and watch Emancipation, because it's THE SAME EPISODE, BY THE SAME WRITER.
The look on pat's face when he realizes he gets to teach his good friend about another Racism in Media
Star Trek is a lot of fun to explain to someone who knows absolutely nothing about it
I love how Pat has been obsessed with the lizard sex episode of Voyager for years, this is like the fifth time he's brought it up.
Threshold is admittedly the worst episode of VOY so it's understandable.
I would argue the worst episodes are the ones that aren't memorable. So bad it's funny always beats mediocre.
@@HumanoidCableDreads That I disagree and TNG is definitive proof of that. All the worst episodes of TNG are not the least bit unmemorable, it's shit like Sub Rosa which you WISH you could forget.
EDIT: and JUST as I finished typing that, I hit resume on the video and Pat described the plot of Sub Rosa.
I watched DS9 years ago and the main episode I remember is when Gul Dukat became a cult leader and cucked the guy who was painting his mural. I often think about that episode. It was not good, but it always makes me laugh thinking about it.
@@HumanoidCableDreads When it comes to such an opinion, I could take it or leave it.
I agree that an entertainingly bad episode is more watchable than a boring bad episode, but then you could run into an episode so bad it taints your view on the show.
I love how Pat INSTANTLY knows what Woolie is talking about when he brings up Quantum Leap, because there is only ONE thing that comes to mind these days when someone says the words “Quantum Leap.”
I didn't even know what they were talking about until I saw a single (unrelated) screenshot. Instantly went "oh, right, yeah, that one"
@@goronheadI knew about that meme clip long before I knew what it came form.
Im surprised Pat didn't go into the whole "Janeway dragging Tuvix to the gas chambers while he is begging to not be murdered" episode.
This was the episode after she saved Harry from evil VR by staring the personification of fear itself down until it died of fright.
The only episode I remember is the one where a guy who wasn’t even part of the voyager crew roleplayed like he was a major character in the cast. There might have been two of those according to my mom who was an actual fan of voyager (can someone confirm I’m not making this up? I only caught this episode once and trying to google it is making me worry I’ve gone insane)
@@gameb9oy I forget the name, but that guy is Reg Barclay.
@@manjackson2772just thank you for telling me you know what I’m talking about
@@gameb9oy Spoilers but IIRC it's revealed half way through the episode to be holograms programmed to be like Voyager's bridge crew because Barclay is a huge fanboy
Dominion wanted some initiative. Blew up their entire quadrant
I’m movin’ like Q.
Romulans in shambles, they stay picking the corn outta my shit
@@jaideay3003 Time displacement cops interrogating me over a minor temporal incursion, as if I didn't just assassinate a Romulan senator two sectors away
Snortin' that Whoopi Guinan South Bajoran Sluggo Cola Deluxe Mega Millions Dabo Skunk Beetle Snuff. (Need to do Ferengi Flow goddamn it)
@@steelgriffin7716 My Latinum long. My Prophets deep.
Kate Mulgrew who played Cpt. Janeway openly said she didn't know which character she was going to play from one episode to the next. When the actress playing the character says their character isn't consistent, take heed.
The time an engineer had to be confronted about his video game addiction after he was caught creating deep fakes of his work colleagues.
Look all I'm saying is if everyone is gonna walk around in a skin tight jumpsuit!-
Didn't that happen TWICE with the same guy?
The funny thing is Troi thought it was fine until she saw that SHE was in the simulation too.
@@SeruraRenge11what an incredible empath
Black Mirror ripped that off wholesale
I am waiting for Pat to one day mention when Riker pulled off his sideburns to reveal he had a gotee the whole time.
it's the close-up and dramatic musical sting that elevates this
and that it was actually THOMAS RIKER ALL ALONG.
And if like me you watched DS9 first, you just go "who?"
@@SeruraRenge11 technically it's star treks deepest lore. He is from TNG but he had a different shirt in that one. They gave him a gotee because that indicates he is evil like the mirror universe in TOS.
Do you remember the time when the Enterprise crew found Abraham Lincoln floating on a chair in space, and he called Lt. Uhura "a charming negress?"
I refuse to believe that's real.
@@tbotalpha8133 It was to show how far society had come because he apologized after realizing the word might be offensive to her, but humanity has so completely gotten over race that it didn't even register to her as offensive and so she basically laughed it off.
The episode's called "the savage curtain" and she says that she has no reason to fear words in the 23rd century
@@skizzmt6291: It's odd how she says that, yet on DS9, O'Brien and another incidental crewman drop the S slur about Cardassians
@@fifthgod ya, ds9 wanted to “test the boundaries of the federation”, but it felt like they mostly just ignored it’s baked in morals. You can argue that they just aren’t the enlightened crew of the enterprise, or that war sowed that hate back into the enlightened humans of the federation. Either way, I leave you with this:
TOTAL SPOONHEAD DEATH
None of that would've happened if Janeway had just started firing the ship's weapons in every direction simultaneously
The power of “You don’t even know!”
You can extend this to Star Trek Online too because that game goes places.
"Hey remember the time in STO when thanks to Future Janeway's virus in the final VOY episode, the Borg were so weakened that the good guys were able to wipe them out? But then the Iconians (you know, those extinct hyper-advanced peoples that TNG and DS9 mention a bunch of times) come back and they're so insanely powerful that even a Federation/Klingon/Romulan front is standing no chance, so Nog and a bunch of scientists decide to rebuild Arronax's timeship from VOY to try and erase the Iconians from history, but they fuck up so badly that they create a timeline where the Borg have assimilated the Romulan Empire? And in trying to undo that, they end up inadvertently creating and living in the timeline all the tv shows exist in, revealing we were in an alternate timeline for almost 10 years of the game's existence?"
"Hey remember when it was revealed that the Terran Emperor in the mirror universe is Mirror Wesley after he killed The Traveller and absorbed his powers?"
"Hey remember when after the Hobus supernova the Romulan Star Empire split into about 3 factions, then it split into 5 factions, then they condensed into 2 factions, and then those 2 factions had a civil war with Se'la as the new Empress?"
I forget who The Traveller was.
@@music79075 The dude they met in season 1 that had reality-warping power like a Q (because he can perceive reality from a different perspective, which gives him a level of control over it) but his interest was purely in observing life in our universe. In the Native American episode of the final season Wesley accidentally reveals he has potential to develop the same powers so they leave together to travel the universe.
@@SeruraRenge11 oh okay ty
Wait what? Why did Wesley just decide to become a murderer?
Like was that alternate Wesley who experienced the same events, but was crazy?
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat It's the Mirror Universe.
Pat's lying about the grandma's Irish sex ghost.
It was Scottish.
And the ghost was her Grandmothers lover, and not the docs Grandfather. I believe. Lol
nice Mike Stoklasa section
I think the worst part about the sex ghost episode is ITS SOMEHOW A FUCKING FINAL SEASON EPISODE
Not surprising though, s7 is only matched by s1 in how terrible its good episodes to bad episodes ratio is.
If I've learmed one thing from these comments it's that sci-fi show writers love their Mpreg.
Remember how the DS9 writers shipped Kira with everyone in the cast EXCEPT the guy whose actor Nana Visitor married and had a kid with (Bashir)?
She just had to shtup every religious figure that showed up, minus Kai Wynn of course. Very gross, Kai Wynn
That's because Bashir committed a microaggression against Kira in the first episode, duh.
Anyway, remember how it got revealed that Bashir was a superhuman created by illegal genetic engineering and it basically only ever gets brought up again as either a running-gag or in the "Bashir wrangles the pseudo-autistic people" episodes?
When Woolie said 'Quantum Leap' I burst out laughing because I KNEW. I KNEW EXACTLY.
"Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home" is my trigger phrase
Remember that time that Dr Crusher fell in love with a worm parasite that "melds" with its hosts consciousness and Riker willingly becomes its host for a short time till they find a new vessel and Crusher and the Worm totally do it using Rikers body as a middleman.
Remember how he wakes up afterwards with ZERO memory of his time as Worm Host and its played for laughs?
Remember that time Riker finds out there was a teleporter malfunction over a decade ago and theres another Riker stuck on a nearly abandoned ship where the possibly original Riker has been stranded this entire time.
Wierd how they never mention that ever again!
Hey remember the time the duplicate Riker actually did come back on DS9 and he became a terrorist and stole the cool ship and as he did it he peeled his fake sideburns off
@manjackson2772 holy shit the faintest blurb of a memory did boil to the surface at that. Wtf happened again?
Was it confirmed he was the duplicate or the original?
@@music79075There's no original. Riker had two transporter beams pointed at him. One got to the ship, the other bounced off some science magic and rematerialised on the surface. They both have equal practical right to be considered William T. Riker, except that one of them got to go on and keep using that name around other people for ten years and the other was stuck on that godawful planet. The one who got stuck goes by Thomas Riker now.
@@manjackson2772 OK ty
Star Trek has a long and storied history of just throwing the craziest shit on the wall to see what would stick.
Almost always in the final seasons where they ran out of ideas and start pulling out of the vault scripts that were considered not high enough quality for seasons 3-4.
@@SeruraRenge11 I think TNG's final seasons though are some of the best ones. I am a recent fan, so I don't know my exact rankings really, but like. 6 and 7 are great, and I've seen that take echoed before.
I also think Season 2 is probably one that jumps out in my mind for sure, especially with the cool doctor.
I'm elated to see Pat there in person. Loving the new DmC 3 co-op, I didn't even know that was a thing outside mods for 5.
"The older older star trek" Woolie klingons were concieved with blackface
Remember that time when Seven of Nine fought The Rock?
“You may not believe me, but remember that time in Jojo when…?”
Remember when Jesus Christ of Nazareth told Jojo "Yeah you got superpowers because you stood next to my bones for a while"
Dont forget the time The Rock guest stars as a alien 'gladiator' in Voyager for no reason besides 'Hey, this show is on UPN so is Smackdown so here's The Rock'
What about that insanely dumb episode where wesley accidentally ruins a garden and is literally sentenced to death by a planet of weird aryan sex hippies..
Are we sure they didn't sentence him to death for being Wesely and cooked up an excuse afterwards?
I'm pretty sure he screws up the garden while running to catch a fucking frisbee lmao
I love the Star Trek Do You Remember That Time? game.
Do you remember that time Quark got a sex change operation so that the Grand Nagus could keep his job?
Do you remember that time they ripped a fetus out of Chief O'Brian's wife then put it in Major Kira and she walked around as surrogate mother for a bunch of episodes?
Do you remember that time they went to that planet where if you die you get trapped on the planet because the microbes that endlessly revive you don't work if you leave the planet and they just left the Bajoran Space Pope there and never talked about her again?
Also Mike erhmentrout is their leader, and he has the most UGLY fucking wig I’ve ever seen
TO BE FAIR, for the third one, one of the big early subplots for season 1 actually is them dealing with the fallout of that and the shakeup of the Bajoran Faith's leadership.
Just want to say thank you to Pat for all the horror stories about Voyager, cause when i actually watched the show myself i came away appreciating it way more than i would have since i only knew the bad bits. In essence, Pat helped me enjoy Voyager 😂
Oh voyager is not the worst Star Trek has to offer, it’s just like Janeway, the writing can be bipolar at times
They definitely made the Borg tough to take seriously for me
That one time Bones got high on space drugs and went back in time to the great depression and inadvertently fucked up WWII.
WHAT!?
and it was considered one of the best episodes of the whole series!
@@leithaziz2716 It was written by Harlan Ellison! Well, the first draft was.
@@manjackson2772I read the comic that focused on an early draft, it’s even more wild than the final TV version.
the politics of that one are SO interesting though!
Kirk was about to prevent the death of a peace activist who, if she were to live, would start an anti-war movement that would keep the US from joining the war against the nazis until it was too late and they won.
like,, them being like "hey, this peace activist is *nice* in her beliefs but those actually aren't helping us and are actively detrimental to our safety" is SUCH an interesting look at beliefs of the late 60s
As a native
Hearing about the mimic native white dude (wendigo har har) is awesome.
.
What a hustle
What's crazy was he was a known fraud even at the time. But they still gave him the job.
Ngl it's a good grift, I couldn't pull that off, and he kept up the act even after being called out, acting like everyone was a liar but him.
Despite its reputation, I still have a soft spot for Voyager for being my introduction to Star Trek as a kid.
Janeway, Seven of Nine, Tuvok, B'elanna, The Doctor... memorable characters played by good actors trying to make due with the wild ass writing that they got.
Everyone remembers Threshold and Tuvix but who remembers "Course: Oblivion"?
In that episode Pat brings up, they didn't clone Harry Kim. There was a spacial anomaly in which the entire ship was split into two tangential realities. So neither ship is the original or a copy. By the end of the episode, one of the Voyagers gets destroyed and the other escapes, however, he Harry Kim from the ship that stays together is killed and the Harry Kim from the one that gets destroyed switches ships and survives. So... yeah, it's not the same Harry, but neither is it really a clone. He's has had all the same memories and experiences as the other Harry up until the moment the ship split. So it is essentially the same guy as always. Still kinda jarring to think about though.
Close. The one that died was from the ship that got utterly wrecked, and the ship that was fine has its shields go down at the most inopportune time which allows a boarding invasion by the Vidiians to harvest them. So during that the alive Kim goes over to the wrecked ship and survives.
EXCEPT THEN in Star Trek Online, we find out the Kobali (who reproduce by taking the bodies of other species' dead and converting them into Kobali) found the dead Kim and turned him into one of them!
@SeruraRenge11 I knew the details of what happened to each ship. I was simplified it for people who were familiar. The basics of what I said it correct.
Also, yeah, I played STO and it's crazy. Lol
Oh I thought he got clones and THEN that happened.
There was also the goo clones
The time Troi was a cake
Dont forget, she had mint frosting too :v
A cellular peptide cake!
That's why Data had to stab her in the turbolift!
Wait do Dream Sequences count?
Remember that episode of DS9 where the station crew is possessed by a cloud of psychic energy that forces them to reenact the last hours of a ship whose crew were all paranoid, treacherous assholes, and Sisko spends the entire time locked in his office building a clock for no reason?
No I didn't, I had to look that one up, and in hindsight no wonder I don't remember because it's a season 1 episode, and outside of the pilot and s1 finale, the only really memorable episode is Duet.
@@SeruraRenge11 that's bullshit. "Progress" and "Battle Lines" are among the best of DS9. "The Forsaken" is a good down-to-earth episode, with great chemistry between Odo and Lwaxana. "Babel" is a typical fun Trek episode that could've been part of the best seasons of TNG.
@@RIDDICK0911 Progress is a meh episode elevated by Brian Keith's performance as the old man, and while Battle Lines is a very lore-important episode and an important one for Kira's character (before you know, they decide to reset her character as they did multiple times in the show), the actual script is not great. And to me The Forsaken is not a good episode, but rather an episode with one really good scene, as opposed to Half a Life from TNG which is also a Lwaxana episode and is so good it actually redeemed the character for me.
Babel is fun, I'll admit that. But I have really high standards for DS9.
I like the very quiet "fuck" when Woolie says Voyager.
the best star trek is when everyone gets trapped in the holodeck through the transporter which gets every one stuck is a james bond like situation
I would pay good money to see woolie's reaction to "code of honor" from TNG.
Voyager went off the rails, but it's still my favorite cast and has a few of the all time great Star Trek episodes in there. But in the spirit of the conversation. Does anyone remember that episode where the whole ship and crew gets cloned (the quantum one, not the time with the goo) only for one of the ships and all crew to perish aside from like a baby and a crew member they were able to transfer before the explosion?
So Harry clone got cloned? If he had a nickle...
@@fifthgod The Harry of Theseus
@@fifthgod No that was the harry clone they were talking about. But yes that clone did also get cloned later by the Silver Blood, and that Silver Blood clone carried on for months thinking it was the real Voyager until its warp engine made it lose cohesion and disintegrate in space, leaving no sign it had ever existed.
@@manjackson2772 And they died almost sending a message to the real voyager who are clueless about what happened and they fly away. WILD episode.
I recall they probably slid home. But the squeaky gate was fixed, so they slid out.
that's the episode of sliders i remember most! i think it was the finale of the first season, too
@@gorimbaud I will always remember that camera pan down to the can of oil after they left
Remember the one where Voyager's attacked by aliens who think the Doctor's daydreams are real, and the crew beats them by turning the Doctor's clothes red?
Remember that time on star trek The alternate version of tasha yar gets kidnapped by romulans and forced to give birth to sela and become a concubine , which is exactly what happened to cyclops mom and how we got vulcan , minus the time travel . Its The shiar empire in marvel ,in star trek they have a romulan organization called the tal shiar , theres no way its a coincidence lol
Remember that episode of DS9 where O'Brien gets irradiated in a way that makes him keep briefly time travelling, and by the end of the episode he's actually dead and the O'Brien who carries on going for the entire rest of the series is the one from a timeline that now never happened?
Sliders had an episode where they did make it back but, the MC checked if the front gate to his house would squeak like it always does. It didn't squeak and he figured it wasn't his home dimension and then left the dimension. Right afterwards you hear his mother asking his father if he had finally fixed the squeaking gate and the father said he had.
This was a sight to behold live. Like seriously woolie said "quan-" and 1 guy types "I'm retarded?"
My knowledge of Star Trek comes purely from Ginger Dwarf and Friends. I don't know who Worf is but fuck that barrel for crushing his spine.
I can't believe that Pat didn't talk about Tuvix. Voyager was always a wild show, but especially if you got to see it when it originally aired. It's like every week there was a new, baffling surprise from the writing team.
Remember that time on star trek enterprise when they showed the scene from first contact in season 4 and instead of doing the proper vulcan gesture cochram takes out a gun and shoots the vulcans and takes the ship and suprise !!! Its the origin of the mirror universe, and we see captain archer and his evil crew find a original series constitution class ship that actually went missing in canon and cause they have technology from the future , thats how they were able to conquer as much as they did , its a really good episode even if u hate enterprise , like remember the time archer and the comic relief doctor sided with eugenics and genocide for the menk?
This is why I always thought that Star Trek fanfiction is fine, because they will never be as wild as the actual source material.
To clarify, because this gets misunderstood a lot, but both Harrys are the original Harry. Voyager got split into two Voyagers simultaneously, but one Voyager lost its Harry and the other had to sacrifice itself to save the first Voyager, so they sent their Harry over before self-destructing. It's a zany premise but Harry is just as much the real deal as the rest of them are to him.
I know there were problems with how she was written but I can't not love Janeway.
Yeah, she's inconsistent depending on the writers, but still at least a third of the time she's got a straightforward no bullshit kind of approach that gives me Granny Weatherwax vibes. I love it when a character is given a contrived pseudo-philosophical quandary like it's a gotcha question and their response is to brute force their own answer because they don't respect the question.
Glad to see I wasn't the only person watching random Star Trek episodes lately either.
The final season of TNG is fascinating to me because it has some of the best in the entire franchise like All Good Things but on the flip side it also has some really bizarrely bad episodes like Sub Rosa and Masks.
And the episode with Spiderlord Barclay
And the one where the Enterprise is a train
And the one about how warp drives are bad for the universe in a really contrived environmentalist message
And the one with Picard's "son"
And the one with Worf's brother which has a really confusing message about the PD
And the REALLY preachy Native American episode where Picard is supposed to feel guilty for something that happened like 700 years ago and that's why he can't do the right thing NOW
And the second half of that fucking terrible 2-parter Descent that is probably the worst way to cap off the Data/Lore arc on top of being imo the true start of the Borg looking pathetic, not Voyager
Yeah, we got stuff like AGT, Parallels, Lower Decks, The Pegasus, and the Gambit 2-parter, but goddamn did s7 make it clear they were running out of ideas.
"Well maybe they just commit more crime"
You just don't understand, they were in the Delta Quadrant. Sh*ts fucked over there.
Lt. Tom Redpill. The most hilarious part is he turned out to be right.
I unironically love it whenever they talk about the stupid trek shit.
Good bit, strong bit.
Sounds like everyone here should watch the Quantum Break Vs Sliders Podcast over on the Gigaboots podcast network for more great conversations like this one
Pat's face after mentioning the planet of violent black people is the most perfect shit eating grin.
Misleading, yet accurate descriptions of Star Trek episodes are so much fun regardless of whether they are good or bad.
Remember when Frank Sinatra was the Love-matic Grandpa?
Now its Pats turn to go super saiyan through the power of racisim
And that same Sinatra helped a capitalist alien specie cadet recover from PTSD from his lost leg.
I wouldn't even say that the Ligonians were violent, just really sexist. And it mainly came across as racist because of the director's decision to make everyone in that society as black and look like they're wearing tribal outfits, when they were written as like lizard people with a Bushido-like code.
@@SeruraRenge11 OK so here's the thing. The same writer wrote Emancipation for SG-1, which is the same script, and that one was also racist and sexist as hell. So either she got really unlucky, or she had some input on the process here.
@@manjackson2772 Unpopular opinion: While "Code of Honor" is terrible, it's not at the same level of terribleness as, say, "Threshold" or "Sub Rosa". What truly makes "Code of Honor" terrible is the decision made, at production time, to cast all African-American actors as the Ligonians. Without that, it's a poorly-executed Mars Needs Women plot that relies too heavily on "Amok Time" for its resolution - a bad script, but a coherent one. Compared to something like the others, where even just the script leaves you asking "what the hell did I just read?" and it is clear that "Code"'s trouble lies mostly in its execution rather than its conception.
Remember when they made the Cardassian equivalent to Josef Mengele in a hologram to cure someone's illness
I’ve got one for you: remember how the structure and general feel of the justice league cartoon is just Star Trek? The way ships are shown, the variance in episode type while still being obvious enough to guess usually, the technobabble. The appearance of both Michael Dorn and Rene Aubergenois, the time travel plots and alternate worlds where everything is evil. Etc.
There's another Sliders episode where they make it home, but they think it's a fake world again because the hinge on the gate on his house doesn't squeak. They slide out but it turns out someone just oiled the hinge
The only episode of Sliders I ever saw was they artificially impregnate John Rhys Davies
Wait did Sliders have two mpreg episodes? Because I distinctly remember an episode where Remy got pregnant too
What about the episode where bashir’s parents were so insecure they literally made him into another Khan and the only thing we see Bashir being really good up to at that point is being a doctor and playing tennis..
it's more the episode where it was _revealed_ his parents had done this than the episode where they did it
Hey be fair they thought he had a mental disability (Also The Federations persecution of the augmented is portrayed negatively and failing of their's)
Not true, if you watch DS9 knowing he's an augment, there's actually a ton of little moments that make you go "wait a minute, is Bashir hiding is capabilites from everyone?"
Which is even crazier when you consider that this was a last-second writing decision for the season that made Alex Siddig upset because he said he would've portrayed Bashir differently if he had known the whole time that he was a hidden augment.
@@SeruraRenge11 It is true, that's why they augmented him as a child, and hid it. IIRC Bashir's dad ends up going to prison over the whole thing getting exposed
@@cyberninjazero5659 I meant "not true" as in regards to "there was never any signs of it prior to the episode where it was revealed."
Remember the episode of Enterprise where they send the chief engineer to help fix an alien ship and him and the alien engineer lady go into a first gen holodeck and she knocks him up?
The episode where they turned into lizards and had babies was the first episode of Star Trek I ever saw.
I have not watched it since.
Pat with the ABSOLUTE NO SCOPE
Sliders had an episode where they genuinely, *actually* made it home... but thought they weren't home because the fence gate didn't squeak and only had about one minute to decide so they left again.
Always wanted an episode of Enterprise to open with chaos on the bridge, people yelling out damage reports and weapons failing. Cut to Archer looking around in confusion, says “Oh boy”, opening credits.
Remember that time in sliders where Rembrandt got mpreg?
SF Debris, one of the true OG, does overview of Star Trek episodes on his website and he had one of the great alternative reads of Janeway.
Just by using what's in the show he gave us Janeway of Borg, a omnicidal mad scientist that is enjoying the constant suffering of the crew and especially Harry Kim's suffering.
Oh and the horrible mess that was Chakotay, became Chief Religious Experience Officer Chakotay.
Fun stuff. Most of it is not on UA-cam for obvious reasons.
For me it's Lorerunner.
IMO people dont talk about the DS9 pregnancy swap enough
Ah the space Africa episode of TNG lol
7:45 2X HYENA LAUGH BREAKER!!!
Speaking of ST and bad writing. Generations COULD have been good, but there were all of those decisions that were handed down by the company. Kirk had to be in it and die, passing of the torch had to be in it, Enterprise had to be destroyed, etc etc. The more years that go by, the more I reckon they did the best they could with the shit that was handed down to them. Not sure what else they could have done to get the two captains together aside from maybe use one of the original script ideas where the way Kirk died was sacrificing himself to save the Enterprise-D.
I've thought about Generations a lot of the years as a 'how could this be better' kind of thing and yeah, it's just stuck with too many things it had to do, and far too much subverting expectations crap, to be much more than what they did with it. You can fix stuff like have them all in proper uniforms not half DS9 ones for no reason, you could beef up the Klingons aspect by giving them a decent ship so there could be a proper space battle. Bring back a lot the cut scenes... but none of this would fix those core problems, it's just papering over the cracks a bit better and this was already a script that they went back and forth on for ages in development, as compared to All Good Things that they banged out the script for in record time.
Also fun fact about that movie, I was looking into why Generations had half the crew in DS9 uniforms and half not, and it's a funny story. They designed a whole set of new uniforms, began filming, then a couple of weeks into the shoot the producers said, "gee, we're worried there's going to be too many unfamiliar elements in this movie that might put audiences off, can we go back to the old uniforms?" But then they didn't have enough TNG uniforms to meet the demands of a movie's casting and scheduling. And they couldn't afford to spend the money on making ANOTHER set of brand new costumes, so they had to borrow costumes from DS9. But there weren't enough DS9 costumes going spare either, so they had to mix and match, even with the same actor (so Frakes is left wearing Avery Brooks' costumes for some scenes, even though the sleeves aren't long enough for his sasquatch-esque frame).
All to avoid having too many 'new elements'...in the movie where the TNG crew, on the TNG ship, team up with Captain Kirk, to beat the Duras sisters and an El-Aurian, Data's finally using the emotion chip, Picard's deeply disturbed by a tragedy with Robert and the vineyard, etc. The change was even so late into the production that the toys for the movie have the TNG cast wearing those scrapped costumes. It's such a great microcosm of how incompetent Paramount were with late-90s Trek; pointless decisions implemented for stupid reasons in the most self-destructive ways possible.
The guy who wrote the worf spider episode was also one of the Voyager showrunners
3:15 they also showed that drugs are basically pointless in the future, because a little dodad on your forehead can get you high as fuck instantly with the press of a button
Voyager was so wild as a teenager. I'd watch it after school and it held my interest where ds9 didn't. I'm the 1% who likes it more lmao.
I watched a little star trek with my dad. But he kept jumping around and the episodes we watched were the one where Wesley needs to get the magic water for Picard, the one where war criminal Janeway says "there's coffee in that nebula" (that told me everything I need to know about her), and they Voyager episode with the "they make up 20% of the population but commit 90% of all crime".
I don't know if he was screwing with me or if his taste in star trek is trash.
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thirteen minute conversation and not a single shout out to plague? pat really never learned how to use assists moves
Remember that time when sentient mercury turned into voyager plus the full crew? And then the follow-up episode when every single one of them just fucking melted in the most horribly agonising death ever?
Just breezing past Pat calling Ensign Kim Chinese is really funny knowing the Twitter battle over his ethnicity between Garret Wang and Nick Mullen. One of the funniest internet feuds in history over the dumbest joke.
Do you remember that time on Star Trek when Data went crazy and Picard had to LARP in Eyes Wide Shut cosplay to take back the ship?
One day I will watch Star Trek. But I'm in no rush, because watching fans talk about weird episodes with no context is one of my favourite things.
You wanna' talk about unhinged Voyager Episodes: _TUVIX._
It was about Tuvok and Neelix getting fused into a singular individual due to a plant sample they'd picked up frm a planet messing with the transporter beam somehow.
That episode fucked me up FOREVER. They legitimately just killed a guy -- disrespecting his sentience and sapience and right to self-autonomy, who had gotten, at best, a few days to live, because everyone else was in mourning about two other crewmates disappearing -- just to resurrect those two crewmates who constituted him. They weren't even technically dead, just different. Worse yet, Tuvix seemed like he was in a way better place, mentally and emotionally, than either Tuvok or Neelix were, and was like a complete ass person in a way that neither of them were, balancing out Neelix's levity with greater professionalism, and Tuvok's emotionlessness with a capacity for emotion that wouldn't fuck him up like it does with most Vulcans.
More still, he inherited their memories. From his perspective, he had lived two lives that combined into one, so it's like double the betrayal when his crewmates, who he cared for and trusted, decide to murder him to resurrect his component individuals.
And then there's the implications about how people react to people who change after major events. The sort of "I liked you better when you were more fucked up" response to someone improving their mental state. The crew mourned for who Tuvok and Neelix _were_ and refused to accept their autonomy as who they _became._
It's just... it infuriates me. Especially because I have a certain romanticism when it comes to people fusing together.
One that sticks with me is how Aku catfished Jack so hard they almost kissed. I always wondered how far he would of went to get to that portal first.
The movie Signs.
I don't like the message of the ending, but the atmosphere and build-up and mood of the whole movie up to that point is just so, so, SO GOOD.
(People like to say the water thing doesn't make sense but it's perfectly plausible that water vapor wouldn't be a problem but liquid water would. It also never rains in the movie.)
Signs actually makes sense when you realize the aliens were supposed to be demons and it's a religious movie. That's why the water could hurt them, it was his faith harming them with holy water. The movie as a whole is about the importance of faith, it kinda screams it in your face.
It's a shame Mel is such a wacko because he's a REALLY good actor and director, the only movie of his that made me say "I wish i didn't see that" was What Women Want.
I will say, I feel like Pat overstates the Harry clone thing because basically what happened was that ALL of voyager got cloned due to anomaly reasons and one ship was getting super fucked up while the other one was mostly fine. Harry and the baby that gets born on Voyager die on the fine one but survive on the fucked one and the fucked up one beams the two over before the ship explodes.
There was a video I watched way back that posited that the warp scale is a sliding one, and as the technology improved "warp 10" just kept getting moved back further from the new standard speed.
I can't think about Quantum Leap with hearing that Berserk song because of the internet.
One of my favorite bits from Galaxy Quest is "This episode was badly written! IT WAS BADLY WRITTEN!"
Matt and Pat talked about the Janeway/Paris episode in that retro Star Trek video. I think they were playing on the SNES but I can't remember which game specifically.
I am going through TNG with a friend and we got to Code of Hero AKA The Drums AKA Every Joke we can make here is the most inappropriate joke. And the entire time was like "HOLD! HOLD IT IN! IT'S TOO EASY!" AND LIKE... IT'S SO BAD! HEY DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEY MET THE PLANET OF SPACE AFRICANS AND ONE OF THEM KIDNAPPED THE WHITE WOMAN SECURITY OFFICER BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MATE WITH HER, AND SHE HAD TO FIGHT ON A JUNGLE GYM WITH THE MAN'S WIFE, AND INSTEAD OF THE EPISODE BEING "NO I DON'T WANT TO MARRY THIS GUY WHO KIDNAPPED ME" IT'S INSTEAD "OKAY YEAH I DO HEAR THE DRUMS BUT-"
ALSO! THE WRITER WOULD GO ON TO WORK ON STAR GATE SG-1 AND DO THE EXACT PLOT THERE TOO!
Here’s all the “that times” that either annoy me or blow my mind they ever happened (I will update as I frantically search my mind):
-Ben sisko killing all life on an m class planet just to get one guy
-janeway torturing a guy because she justified it to herself because he “was no longer human” after using aliens as fuel for their warp cheats that the voyager crew get constantly
Whatever the fuck that means
-troi being mind sexed by alien goblins
-Doctor crusher and the rest of the crews embarrassing drunk moments
Almost every episode has some dumb adds shit like this somewhere, I can go on.
-That time Dax morally postures at Kira over being willing to date a clear headed alien guy
That time a Native space American guy postures at Picard about his ancestry and how he should help them now to atone for his ancestors crimes as French colonists even though this is hundred of years into the future and that’s long past
- siskos dad getting pissed off that his son wants to test his blood to see if he’s who he says he is, and goes on to say and I quote “you can’t just go around making people prove who they are! It’s not right!!”
And it’s like... “hey gramps, you are aware of the concept of personal ID? And licenses and all that shit? Are you fucking high or have you just been huffing too much kitchen pepper you fuddled old fool?
-the dog in an alien costume (of course)
The last one is unironically the worst. Its arguing that because a long ass time ago picard's ancestors probably fucked over some native americans, that not only should he feel guilty but that he shouldnt try to relocate them due to space nazis (cardassians) taking over their planet due to a treaty with the federation saying they must do so. So he wants themout of nazi control and they keep going "no youre the real bad guy mr white man!" And he gets depressed. Then wes agrees to help his groomer who doesnt give a shit about any of these people and causes a firefight after picard wanted to sneak transport the natives, and the cardassians and enterprise and thr natives get into a firefight because of wes. Then once things cool down the space nazis agree to let the natives stay under their rule. Ds9 is all about how evil said space nazis were and is likely why native americans are part of thr rebelion group against them as a consequence of this.
For those unaware, the Sisko one is really wacky because Sisko is doing this as /direct retribution/ to one guy poisoning a planet with a substance that's only hazardous to Cardassians, which he did so that humans could take it. It's not an automatic nuke, it's 'just' a selective poison.
The other guy is horrified at Sisko despite it being essentially the same thing he did (because he sees himself as the hero and Sisko as the villain) and decides to turn himself and the bombs in to prevent further atrocities from Sisko's part.
The only reason this isn't /more/ horrifying is because at the end, the humans and Cardassians of the affected planets just basically relocate to each others' former homes - otherwise we'd be looking a gigantic diaspora of people on both sides and/or genocide.
@@lordentropy460 Yeah, what it effectively ended up as, is a horrific version of a population exchange. "Oh, you're going to make a planet inhabitable for humans for uninhabitable for Cardassians? Well we'll do the reverse to a different planet. Do you want to keep playing this game, Eddington? How far does your hate go?"
The time a facist dictator wanted to confirm to his terrorist enemy, that he fucked her mom and she liked it.
@@SeruraRenge11 It's even more fucked up that he's less morally concerned and rationalizing about that than about what he (unintentionally) was accomplice to in "In the Pale Moonlight". Sisko's the man but damn was he slippin
Remember that time Kira and Jake Sisko had a DBZ beam struggle on the promenade?
TNG season 1 has so many explicit references to "rape gangs" it kinda becomes hilarious.
Another Issue that turning into lizards was called "Evolving." Not Devolving.
Far from the bones of my people