Thanks, I hope to meet you guys as well next year. I watched your video on this saw and you seem like cool guys. The review was great and answered all my questions about it. 🙌💯
Milwaukee reps had an event going on at my local Canadian Home Depot, I tried the top handle 14” and it’s such a powerhouse and I swear has more beans than my M18 16” saw.
Oh, I run a 20 inch bar on my 61 cc saw, but 18 on my 50 cc. They are both VersaCut Oregon laminated bars, and they rock. Save weight too. Most people don't need anything over 18-20 inches, for typical homeowner, or ranch and storm cleanup, etc.
@@georgedavall9449 thanks for the recommendation. I’ll have to check them out. For me,the majority of my cutting can be done with an 18-20 too, but I always have the 24 inch bar handy, just in case.
@@MarkThomasBuilder You're Welcome, and I while I have a like new TimberWolf that I have been tempted to try a 24 inch bar on, I will be giving it to my Son. I know You have and like Echo products, and they are very good, but I have never really cared for it? It only has about 6-8 tanks through it. Solid saw and it was a great bargain, on sale at The Home Despot.
I haven't tried a TimberWolf version from ECHO, but I'm a fan of their saws. My 2 favorites from them are the CS2511TN and the CS7310PW. I also have a Husqvarna saw from a long time ago that's a 371XP. I'll have to look closer at that TimberWolf the next time I'm in HD.
@@MarkThomasBuilder Those are two higher end Echo saws Mark, and good saws. The TimberWolf is their Version of a Farm and Ranch saw from other brands. It is made to a price point, but is favored by many. A lot of Bang for the Buck, as they say. Awww, You speaking to my heart with Husky, and that 371XP is Boss! 😊
Hey Mark Thomas! That fellow delivered a good demonstration of the new saw. It is very expensive as a Kit, and I wonder what the weight of it is? I like the VS trigger, and selectable ‘power,’ as well as onboard scrench storage. I still don’t see someone taking this out in the woods, on a daily basis, or even on an all day job back in the woods? Sure, compare it to a 70cc saw, but I don't even have a 70 cc saw. I have a 61 cc though, and I don't take that out in the woods, maybe on the perimeter on occasion. The ‘Duel’ didn't seem right? It looked like the gas saw here was spewing finer chips, which would make it cut slower. And if that was a MS460 ( I’m guessing ) or similar, it should have done better. Not taking away from this, but it does require two batteries, and that is something that a lot of guys/ gals don’t care for. At least it looks serious, and looks to have a decent bar, and the dual bucking spikes is a nice touch. Looking forward to your review on this Mark. They should give You a saw ( You hear me Milwaukee? ) for all the publicity and promo You give them! 😊 Take care 👍
@@georgedavall9449 Hey George, happy Sunday! The guys in the video posted a video where they brought this out in the woods, because they had an early version sent to them. It’s an interesting video to find out some more in-depth info. Their channel is: Rooted Arborists. Thanks for recommending me to test the saw. I have a nice project to test this out on.😁🙌💯
I like how it has the same power on “low” as my 261 with exhaust port and filter and 462 power on high. But I think the bulk might be a draw back. It looks very chonky. Still a much better saw than the current rear handle M18 which I’ve only used 4 times before buying the 261. It’s a back up back up back up saw for me if my 500i, 261, and M18 hatchet with 12 inch Stihl bar shits the bed.
Yes, I agree that it's a nice step up from their M18. I like a battery powered saw when I'm working around a wood chipper. It's nice when you're wearing ear muffs to just grab the saw and go, no pull starting.
A slightly modified 462 will run a 36" bar to the dogs and stay in it's power band. Big fan of Milwaukee and cordless saws are cool but this thing ain't replacing a 70cc saw it might do 70cc saw work but not for long. It's pretty sweet I'll give them that but realistically it's still just another part time firewood saw and 900$ for the kit is crazy for that. Hope next gen gets closer to the mark don't make sense to me to try and make a 70cc equivalent though not with battery tech we've got if anything should look to make 50cc equivalent and maybe get broader power from gearing and proprietary chain maybe.
@@zack6892 It would be nice if I had one tree fall in my yard after a hurricane at 7:00 am. Small one so I can cut the whole thing in to pieces. But the biggest thing I don't like about it, the weight. It's 20 pounds... an 881 powerhead weighs that... Not sure if that's with or without batteries installed. Probably more with HD 12.0's. My 261 with a 20 inch bar weighs somewhere around 14.5 pounds and I can use it all day long. When my Ripsaw 500i full wrap comes, I think it will weigh less than 20 pounds with a 25 inch bar. I have the original M18 rear handle saw and it's not horrible. Kills batteries quick. Bulkier than my 261 and half the time I forget I have it. I do have the M18 hatchet with a 12 inch Stihl bar. That thing is actually impressive like that to the point where I decided it stays with my 261. and with an HD 8.0 battery, the battery doesn't die quick.
@@zack6892 I also don't think they would make a proprietary chain in the future. It would cost them too much to develop. And then the cost to the consumer would be way higher to make up for it. Right now, every bar and chain they use is made by Oregon. Just with Milwaukee branding. Not a bad thing because Oregon makes good stuff. But they need to cut costs somewhere and price it "somewhat competitively".
The company I work for has about 20 of the single battery ones. They ALL leak oil. How about some commitment to fixing that problem already. Even the newer ones we now have still leak. They cut great but come on already how many complaints do you need before someone fixes the problem.
I've owned various brand chainsaws and experienced the bar oil leaking. It's frustrating, especially if you haven't looked at them and they've left a big puddle.
@tb3410 just curious what brand and colour of bar oil do you run? I have no idea why but I tried two different bar oils but both were red in colour and they make most of my saws leak. So I went back to clear not thinking anything of it and all of my saws stopped leaking bar oil. So to test it I tried red again and boom they leak. I’ve never heard anyone talk about this and not sure why maybe it is the dye to make the oil red? Anyway I will say my saws were cheaper Chinese clone saws so maybe it is cheap rubber in the oiling system and the red oil makes them leak or something but just try so clear oil like Husqvarna all season and see what happens.
No pro is going to use this thing. How would I run this all day? My Stihl and Husky run all day long with a small gas can. limb saws can be electric on small jobs and that’s about it.
With the super charger it charges the biggest high output 12 amp hour forge batteries in 30 mi uses and you can get more then 30 minutes out of a set . So I'd say it's comparable
@@MarkThomasBuilder I use an older single-battery 16". 4 12HDs are enough for me to fell and cut up a couple dead 20" maple trees. The rest of the day (and a good chunk of the next) will be spent hauling and splitting the wood. Though a backpack style battery, like from Stihl or that new fancy MX FUEL lineup would've been nice.
400$ more than the 20 inch ego is too rich for my blood. I’ll always use stihl to fell trees but the ego has been amazing to buck up firewood. Looks like I’ll be sticking with the ego because that’s way too much money.
@@MarkThomasBuilder that would be a fun video. I do think the Milwaukee all slightly outperform the 55cc ego but not to the tune of 400$. Ego has their 60cc commercial saw that is still 250$ less. I think Milwaukee missed the boat with this one.
Its impressive. That comparison is questionablr. That gas saw sounds like it had a crap chain. A 70cc gas saw with a good chain would do better than that. Honesty though...I think the cordless would beat ANY stock 70cc gas saw. I can see buying one. I will get TWO 8ah Forge batteries to use elsewhere also. Those 2 batteries list for $350 at HD. Sure makes the saw purchase hurt less...
EGO and Milwaukee are both made by Chervon group, this new 20" dual battery Milwaukee looks like it is a tough one (dual bucking spikes)the EGO commercial chainsaw model looks like it is more streamlined having only one battery module and is 56 Volt I forget the amp size 10 Aur i think and up to 24" so who wins? CHERVON does!!!😂🤣💲💰💲
Sorry my guys at Milwaukee but it’s too big, bulky, and heavy to even try to compete with good ol two stroke saws… We get our two strokes ported and fully modded and they absolutely spank any electric saw and they are a lot more compact and lighter…. Also your batteries require just as much emissions as our saws will ever even try to produce in a lifetime… yeah no thanks 🤣 I love Milwaukee but not electric chainsaws!
What do you think about this chainsaw? Is a 20" bar an ideal size for you?
Maybe Milwaukee should have given it a 24" bar? Good Battery saw to go HtoH vs Stihl.
way to $$$ compare to gas
Great video, we’re really excited about this saw and the future of battery! Hope we get the chance to meet you at pipeline next year!
Thanks, I hope to meet you guys as well next year. I watched your video on this saw and you seem like cool guys. The review was great and answered all my questions about it. 🙌💯
I bought the 14 inch top handle and i love it! Its adequate for around the yard and at the cabin! A great saw!
@@chadfallon3378 That’s a great saw too! It will pair very nice with this 20 inch door battery saw.
Milwaukee reps had an event going on at my local Canadian Home Depot, I tried the top handle 14” and it’s such a powerhouse and I swear has more beans than my M18 16” saw.
@hammerheartdan6311 I saw a review of that 14" used by an arborist for a year. He loved it.
Oh, I run a 20 inch bar on my 61 cc saw, but 18 on my 50 cc. They are both VersaCut Oregon laminated bars, and they rock. Save weight too. Most people don't need anything over 18-20 inches, for typical homeowner, or ranch and storm cleanup, etc.
@@georgedavall9449 thanks for the recommendation. I’ll have to check them out.
For me,the majority of my cutting can be done with an 18-20 too, but I always have the 24 inch bar handy, just in case.
@@MarkThomasBuilder You're Welcome, and I while I have a like new TimberWolf that I have been tempted to try a 24 inch bar on, I will be giving it to my Son. I know You have and like Echo products, and they are very good, but I have never really cared for it? It only has about 6-8 tanks through it. Solid saw and it was a great bargain, on sale at The Home Despot.
I haven't tried a TimberWolf version from ECHO, but I'm a fan of their saws. My 2 favorites from them are the CS2511TN and the CS7310PW. I also have a Husqvarna saw from a long time ago that's a 371XP.
I'll have to look closer at that TimberWolf the next time I'm in HD.
@@MarkThomasBuilder Those are two higher end Echo saws Mark, and good saws. The TimberWolf is their Version of a Farm and Ranch saw from other brands. It is made to a price point, but is favored by many. A lot of Bang for the Buck, as they say. Awww, You speaking to my heart with Husky, and that 371XP is Boss! 😊
all i wanna know is if they fixed the oiler issue the single battery saw has on this new saw.
Hey Mark Thomas!
That fellow delivered a good demonstration of the new saw. It is very expensive as a Kit, and I wonder what the weight of it is? I like the VS trigger, and selectable ‘power,’ as well as onboard scrench storage.
I still don’t see someone taking this out in the woods, on a daily basis, or even on an all day job back in the woods? Sure, compare it to a 70cc saw, but I don't even have a 70 cc saw. I have a 61 cc though, and I don't take that out in the woods, maybe on the perimeter on occasion.
The ‘Duel’ didn't seem right? It looked like the gas saw here was spewing finer chips, which would make it cut slower. And if that was a MS460 ( I’m guessing ) or similar, it should have done better. Not taking away from this, but it does require two batteries, and that is something that a lot of guys/ gals don’t care for. At least it looks serious, and looks to have a decent bar, and the dual bucking spikes is a nice touch.
Looking forward to your review on this Mark. They should give You a saw ( You hear me Milwaukee? ) for all the publicity and promo You give them! 😊 Take care 👍
@@georgedavall9449 Hey George, happy Sunday! The guys in the video posted a video where they brought this out in the woods, because they had an early version sent to them. It’s an interesting video to find out some more in-depth info. Their channel is: Rooted Arborists.
Thanks for recommending me to test the saw. I have a nice project to test this out on.😁🙌💯
@@MarkThomasBuilder Thanks Mark! I will have to check it out! 👍💪🤝
What's the chain speed
Wait - what's the grey saw? Who makes that?
That's a good question. I haven't looked at it close enough to figure it out yet.
I like how it has the same power on “low” as my 261 with exhaust port and filter and 462 power on high. But I think the bulk might be a draw back. It looks very chonky. Still a much better saw than the current rear handle M18 which I’ve only used 4 times before buying the 261. It’s a back up back up back up saw for me if my 500i, 261, and M18 hatchet with 12 inch Stihl bar shits the bed.
Yes, I agree that it's a nice step up from their M18. I like a battery powered saw when I'm working around a wood chipper. It's nice when you're wearing ear muffs to just grab the saw and go, no pull starting.
@@MarkThomasBuilder That is the one thing I can agree that's nice about the electric saws. Get up and go lol.
A slightly modified 462 will run a 36" bar to the dogs and stay in it's power band. Big fan of Milwaukee and cordless saws are cool but this thing ain't replacing a 70cc saw it might do 70cc saw work but not for long. It's pretty sweet I'll give them that but realistically it's still just another part time firewood saw and 900$ for the kit is crazy for that. Hope next gen gets closer to the mark don't make sense to me to try and make a 70cc equivalent though not with battery tech we've got if anything should look to make 50cc equivalent and maybe get broader power from gearing and proprietary chain maybe.
@@zack6892 It would be nice if I had one tree fall in my yard after a hurricane at 7:00 am. Small one so I can cut the whole thing in to pieces. But the biggest thing I don't like about it, the weight. It's 20 pounds... an 881 powerhead weighs that... Not sure if that's with or without batteries installed. Probably more with HD 12.0's. My 261 with a 20 inch bar weighs somewhere around 14.5 pounds and I can use it all day long. When my Ripsaw 500i full wrap comes, I think it will weigh less than 20 pounds with a 25 inch bar. I have the original M18 rear handle saw and it's not horrible. Kills batteries quick. Bulkier than my 261 and half the time I forget I have it. I do have the M18 hatchet with a 12 inch Stihl bar. That thing is actually impressive like that to the point where I decided it stays with my 261. and with an HD 8.0 battery, the battery doesn't die quick.
@@zack6892 I also don't think they would make a proprietary chain in the future. It would cost them too much to develop. And then the cost to the consumer would be way higher to make up for it. Right now, every bar and chain they use is made by Oregon. Just with Milwaukee branding. Not a bad thing because Oregon makes good stuff. But they need to cut costs somewhere and price it "somewhat competitively".
Would it be stronger with the 12.0?
Forge 6.0 is 12.0 high output power in a smaller package.
Cool but price is lil to high for just the tool
Husqvarna 572XP ❤❤
I haven't tried that one. I have an older 371XP, which is an awesome saw!
@@MarkThomasBuilder which one is better,faster
Looks like a stihl 362 their running it against
Interesting to hear that. I was wondering what model saw that was. I looked it up and notice it's a 59cc saw.
No one ever clarifies when racing saws if the chains are both the same type and unused, obviously big determining factor
Good point. Whenever I compare saws in my own testing, I buy brand new chains, so the outcome is fair. I also specify the chain type.
The company I work for has about 20 of the single battery ones. They ALL leak oil. How about some commitment to fixing that problem already. Even the newer ones we now have still leak. They cut great but come on already how many complaints do you need before someone fixes the problem.
I've owned various brand chainsaws and experienced the bar oil leaking. It's frustrating, especially if you haven't looked at them and they've left a big puddle.
I agree!
@tb3410 just curious what brand and colour of bar oil do you run?
I have no idea why but I tried two different bar oils but both were red in colour and they make most of my saws leak.
So I went back to clear not thinking anything of it and all of my saws stopped leaking bar oil.
So to test it I tried red again and boom they leak.
I’ve never heard anyone talk about this and not sure why maybe it is the dye to make the oil red?
Anyway I will say my saws were cheaper Chinese clone saws so maybe it is cheap rubber in the oiling system and the red oil makes them leak or something but just try so clear oil like Husqvarna all season and see what happens.
If it's 70cc equivalent put a 28 inch bar on it
I should've asked the product manager about bigger bars. 24" is a good size for my needs.
No pro is going to use this thing. How would I run this all day? My Stihl and Husky run all day long with a small gas can. limb saws can be electric on small jobs and that’s about it.
I'd be curious to see how many batteries this would go through in a day's work.
With the super charger it charges the biggest high output 12 amp hour forge batteries in 30 mi uses and you can get more then 30 minutes out of a set . So I'd say it's comparable
@@MarkThomasBuilder I use an older single-battery 16". 4 12HDs are enough for me to fell and cut up a couple dead 20" maple trees. The rest of the day (and a good chunk of the next) will be spent hauling and splitting the wood. Though a backpack style battery, like from Stihl or that new fancy MX FUEL lineup would've been nice.
Not to say that electric doesn’t have its place. I have a 20 inch ego chainsaw that is great in amp pinch around the farm.
400$ more than the 20 inch ego is too rich for my blood. I’ll always use stihl to fell trees but the ego has been amazing to buck up firewood. Looks like I’ll be sticking with the ego because that’s way too much money.
Interesting price difference. I'd like to compare the two sometime, just to see how they compete.
@@MarkThomasBuilder that would be a fun video. I do think the Milwaukee all slightly outperform the 55cc ego but not to the tune of 400$. Ego has their 60cc commercial saw that is still 250$ less. I think Milwaukee missed the boat with this one.
I'd rather buy a gas Echo or Husqvarna. This is a rip-off.
Throw in the flexvolt 20" and see how all 3 compare
Does that kit come with two 8ah pouch cell batteries?
Its impressive. That comparison is questionablr. That gas saw sounds like it had a crap chain. A 70cc gas saw with a good chain would do better than that. Honesty though...I think the cordless would beat ANY stock 70cc gas saw. I can see buying one. I will get TWO 8ah Forge batteries to use elsewhere also. Those 2 batteries list for $350 at HD. Sure makes the saw purchase hurt less...
I'm excited with the power that this saw has.
Milwaukee saws suck. Theres no comparison for stihl 261. We have both at work
I was thinking of getting a 261 after my 251cbe turned out to be a pos. But then I thought maybe an electric would be was more reliable.
@seanhammer6296 long term it wont be. Can always rebuild a carb
put more money into battery life improvement not bigger saws
far too expensive and too heavy.
Thousand bucks? Nah..... I'm good.
EGO and Milwaukee are both made by Chervon group, this new 20" dual battery Milwaukee looks like it is a tough one (dual bucking spikes)the EGO commercial chainsaw model looks like it is more streamlined having only one battery module and is 56 Volt I forget the amp size 10 Aur i think and up to 24" so who wins? CHERVON does!!!😂🤣💲💰💲
Milwaukee is owned by TTI. EGO is owned by Chevron. If you Google tool company owners, you'll see some charts that show the popular tool companies.
This is not for professional tree flinging.homeowners and hobby tree people
JUST a heavy saw,, ,,My m18 ---16 inch is already heavy weight------more than 10 pounds,,,,
BET you this 20 inch is a ----15 lbs plus hefty toy,,,
Tks a lot for your vidéo but Milwaukee have take the choose The china finition and fabrication , It is Shame
My 1970's all original Echo 602VL will walk all over that POS!!
Sorry my guys at Milwaukee but it’s too big, bulky, and heavy to even try to compete with good ol two stroke saws… We get our two strokes ported and fully modded and they absolutely spank any electric saw and they are a lot more compact and lighter…. Also your batteries require just as much emissions as our saws will ever even try to produce in a lifetime… yeah no thanks 🤣 I love Milwaukee but not electric chainsaws!
Man, you're too high on those exhaust gases.
Been having nothing but problems outta new still carbs
Few more years most arborist will have a truck full of batteries and nothing but electric saws
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