are these SEP injectors the china boi's we have been waiting for? I think so! we need more in car testing and long term reliability checking but i am blown away so far.
Matt, Congratulations on the 60k subscribers! Also, thanks a ton for your time and the quality in which you did the review. I would have been completely stoked for just half of what you have done. That being said, if you want a 3% set sometime around early-mid May, I have one for you. These were literally the only 8 I had in this flow rate. I have a device I call the "Iron Maiden" which I built out of a spare fuel system that pushes up to 120PSI through these to test the seal and case pressure. I had to do that to one of yours (why it smelled like fuel) because that is the only 8 I had made. Thanks again for your time and this review!
Thanks for attempting to do this. I def think there's a market for injectors you are attempting to bring to market. If you do succeed, i will be a buyer in the 150lb market.
I'm with this guy. than you for going out and doing this. I can't wait till the rest of the test is done and you start selling them. I'm in the middle road where I'm growing out of 80s and 210 are too big.
What sort of timescale is realistic before you will have these avaliable for us, im currently running deka 80s on a big power 4 cylinder and im already at 100% duty on them so when these are ready, it would make a great and easy upgrade without changing a thing
This kind of information is so valuable,I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to share it.No where else would a regular meathead like me learn these things.I love watching this channel.
Super interested in seeing how they hold up after a month or 2 of use. And if they really are in the $200 range for a set of 8 sounds like he's going to be a busy guy.
That flowbench was running out of pump with injectors that big, maybe that also affected results. I guess running them in pairs ore one by one may be more precise.
Just a thought. These Injectors are perfect for a throttle body unit. It could be very little off and not affect the tune. With fuel injectors in the intake runners it could affect tune with one injector being off. But for someone like me who has a holley sniper it's perfect. My warranty was out with them and an injector fails. Replaced them with these and they fit perfectly.
KEEP SPREADING THE GOOD WORD. Allot of people try to keep there tricks and what nots to there sells. That's NOT what hotrodding is ABOUT. YOU'RE THE MAN KEEP IT SLOPPY.
If he can keep the consistency good and QC in control, and continue to offer more products then he will be a pretty rich guy. I'd like to see the 130s around $180 matched though honestly
Hi, please can you tell me what liquid you are using? I have tried denatured alcohol and the stuff gives me a headache. Next I tried destilled water but that foams so much ...... your liquid is much better. Thanks Bernhard
Wow i never realized how loud injectors are! Very informative! You mentioned that even the motor isnt 3%, out of curiosity any idea how close your 4.8 is or a typical LS? Or is the only way to know is to have individual lambda or temp sensors for each of the cylinders? Doing the community a great service! Thank you
Ryan Bernard If you really wanna lose your mind, go check out a diesel pump/injector test stand. Haha under 100 psi fuel pressure, that’s cute. Up that about 10-15x and that’s some fuel pressure.
Matt, if you end up trying these injectors and pulling the 210s, would it be feasible for you to head back to your buddy's house and run the 210s on his test bench, just for the hell of it (and for video content)? I'd love to see them run.
So iv got a modified turbo engine. Bigger turbo bigger injectors and all rest. However iv had my ecu mapped to suit and now my car struggles to start. Runs rough and won't rev high. I do believe my injectors are unfortunately fake siemens deka 630cc. Could fake ones cause my issues? The mapping is done correctly buy the best man for job so I'm hoping it's my injectors but don't want to pay out for more if it might not be the issue.
How about trying a test cycle that would simulate a racetrack episode. Idle too the line, burnout, bump-in, rev-limiter to desired boost level. That might take us through a “cycle of concern” and see how they perform. Can your flow machine be “programmed to do that? And if not you are the “GOAT” of tuning, IT and all things “Dark Magic”.....I can see it now the Sloppy Tunable Flow Bench” we will all want one! What say you?
Phew...this makes me feel much better about mine. I got a set from eBay that said they were deka80s for about $150 and said they were shipped from USA. However when they arrived they were clearly from China. They look exactly like this physicly. I'm just thinking they may have been more like 300 bux.
We consider Chinese goods to be very poorly made, but they manufacture majority of Apples phones and computers and we pay Billions for that merchandise and never complain???? They know how to get the quality down when they want to.
impactajuvenile I used to believe they were crappy manufactures. But given the Apple and many other products being quality, and priced like Made in USA. I think it's the individual companies owners that are pushing to make high volume low price garbage to be the price point leader.
Thats all ( im american also ) american propaganda. Im a machinist. China makes The best robitics "cnc equptmment" in the world. Our best 5 axis machine in the shop comes from asia. If you spend a honest dollar you will receive a product that just as good or superior to the worlds best manufactures. Thats been my finding. I dont fear buying Chinese goods. Just look around your house 99% of what you own comes from there. Most of our cars are made there .
Matt, Congratulations on the 60k subscribers! Also, thanks a ton for your time and the quality in which you did the review. I would have been completely stoked for just half of what you have done. That being said, if you want a 3% set sometime around early-mid May, I have one for you. These were literally the only 8 I had in this flow rate. I have a device I call the "Iron Maiden" which I built out of a spare fuel system that pushes up to 120PSI through these to test the seal and case pressure. I had to do that to one of yours (why it smelled like fuel) because that is the only 8 I had made.
Thanks again for your time and this review!
Thanks for attempting to do this. I def think there's a market for injectors you are attempting to bring to market. If you do succeed, i will be a buyer in the 150lb market.
It's truly been my pleasure. Thanks for your gratitude and support, more stuff incoming!
I'm with this guy. than you for going out and doing this. I can't wait till the rest of the test is done and you start selling them. I'm in the middle road where I'm growing out of 80s and 210 are too big.
What sort of timescale is realistic before you will have these avaliable for us, im currently running deka 80s on a big power 4 cylinder and im already at 100% duty on them so when these are ready, it would make a great and easy upgrade without changing a thing
turbotoaster1984 I will begin testing the new batch of 1500’s May 10th’ish
This kind of information is so valuable,I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to share it.No where else would a regular meathead like me learn these things.I love watching this channel.
60k subs! Congrats!
thanks for giving us the info and review!
I’ll definitely be looking into these when I’m ready to order injectors.. hope you do some more testing! Thanks Matt!
HEY IT'S MASSIVE BURNOUT TIME!!!!!!! Congratulations on 60k subs Matt.
great video I can't wait till your done testing them and there available to buy
cool. building my own arduino flow tester now. cant wait to check out my china injectors!
Hope these end up working out. Its kind of hard to beat decaps, so more options are great.
Really hope these work out, need an economical injector above 80lbs thats not a 210
Very interesting, I would be interested in these since I'll be going e-85 would be great if he can get these going and staying consistent.
Super interested in seeing how they hold up after a month or 2 of use. And if they really are in the $200 range for a set of 8 sounds like he's going to be a busy guy.
That flowbench was running out of pump with injectors that big, maybe that also affected results. I guess running them in pairs ore one by one may be more precise.
yep he wants to add a surge tank and wally 450 for more extensive testing with large injectors
won't be enough.
i made a similar testbench and for three 1200cc injectors a bosch 044 can't hold 3bar static testing.(>> 100 PW)
Thanks matt,
China will build the quality as required, they will make above oem quality.
It's down to the profit margin.
good project and information
Great things happening here. Awesome middle ground and far as injector sizing is concerned.
Just a thought.
These Injectors are perfect for a throttle body unit. It could be very little off and not affect the tune.
With fuel injectors in the intake runners it could affect tune with one injector being off.
But for someone like me who has a holley sniper it's perfect.
My warranty was out with them and an injector fails. Replaced them with these and they fit perfectly.
I want a flow tester now!
hope this works out. decaps are sweet but this would be a great next step.
KEEP SPREADING THE GOOD WORD. Allot of people try to keep there tricks and what nots to there sells. That's NOT what hotrodding is ABOUT. YOU'RE THE MAN KEEP IT SLOPPY.
Fast forward to 4 years later and his 80 lb injectors are just as much as genuine siemens 80 lbs
Doing God's work as always
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If he can keep the consistency good and QC in control, and continue to offer more products then he will be a pretty rich guy.
I'd like to see the 130s around $180 matched though honestly
Thanks Matt!
Looks promising
Hi, please can you tell me what liquid you are using? I have tried denatured alcohol and the stuff gives me a headache. Next I tried destilled water but that foams so much ...... your liquid is much better.
Thanks Bernhard
How are the injectors doing still going ok
hey matt how have these injectors held up???
How much did the psi drop when testing the injectors?
Wow i never realized how loud injectors are! Very informative! You mentioned that even the motor isnt 3%, out of curiosity any idea how close your 4.8 is or a typical LS? Or is the only way to know is to have individual lambda or temp sensors for each of the cylinders? Doing the community a great service! Thank you
Ryan Bernard
If you really wanna lose your mind, go check out a diesel pump/injector test stand.
Haha under 100 psi fuel pressure, that’s cute.
Up that about 10-15x and that’s some fuel pressure.
Nice!
audio levels are waaay too low and it sounds like you have the mic at the other end of a phone call?
Hi, what do you think about ksm motorsport injectors
Damn China makes really good fuel injectors
Does anyone know of a more affordable yet reliable set of injectors for my 2014 Mustang?
HELL YA
Do injectors within 2% idle better than stock?
Where can I order a set of these?
Matt, if you end up trying these injectors and pulling the 210s, would it be feasible for you to head back to your buddy's house and run the 210s on his test bench, just for the hell of it (and for video content)? I'd love to see them run.
his bench is a little small for the 210, hes trying to work out a way to install larger tubes
Would be cool content if he can figure it out, thanks!
My friend and I is how you properly word that sentence Mr. Matthew's.
So iv got a modified turbo engine. Bigger turbo bigger injectors and all rest. However iv had my ecu mapped to suit and now my car struggles to start. Runs rough and won't rev high. I do believe my injectors are unfortunately fake siemens deka 630cc. Could fake ones cause my issues? The mapping is done correctly buy the best man for job so I'm hoping it's my injectors but don't want to pay out for more if it might not be the issue.
How about trying a test cycle that would simulate a racetrack episode. Idle too the line, burnout, bump-in, rev-limiter to desired boost level. That might take us through a “cycle of concern” and see how they perform. Can your flow machine be “programmed to do that? And if not you are the “GOAT” of tuning, IT and all things “Dark Magic”.....I can see it now the Sloppy Tunable Flow Bench” we will all want one! What say you?
Brad’s machine does this
Got any for 2.7 prerunner?
#IBT have any injector data comments.
"I'll put them in my friends car" lmao
Matt did you or can you give contact info for the guy that test and cleans the injectors.thanks
Yes check recent uploads for mail time injector video his info is all over the screen
hey bud can you attach a link for his website i want to buy some of those injectors please they look like they will work great
www.snakeeaterperformance.com thanks for the interest
Phew...this makes me feel much better about mine. I got a set from eBay that said they were deka80s for about $150 and said they were shipped from USA. However when they arrived they were clearly from China. They look exactly like this physicly. I'm just thinking they may have been more like 300 bux.
some people are selling genuine deka 80s for that cheap it seems, be cautious either way
Sloppy Mechanics hmmm. I will research the part num on the injectors. But should probably get them tested as well. Once again your info is priceless.
Yea about that $200 price point.
What kind of fuel was being used in the tests?
you cant leave this empty windex
mineral spirits
God please work. I don't want to pay $1200 for injectors lol
I'd run them in my twin turbo 5.3 build
How they working
Howw ?
We consider Chinese goods to be very poorly made, but they manufacture majority of Apples phones and computers and we pay Billions for that merchandise and never complain???? They know how to get the quality down when they want to.
impactajuvenile I used to believe they were crappy manufactures. But given the Apple and many other products being quality, and priced like Made in USA. I think it's the individual companies owners that are pushing to make high volume low price garbage to be the price point leader.
Thats all ( im american also ) american propaganda. Im a machinist. China makes The best robitics "cnc equptmment" in the world. Our best 5 axis machine in the shop comes from asia.
If you spend a honest dollar you will receive a product that just as good or superior to the worlds best manufactures. Thats been my finding. I dont fear buying Chinese goods. Just look around your house 99% of what you own comes from there. Most of our cars are made there .
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Lol are you filming this at work?
Sean Newman nope.
I can get real Dekas from deka for not much more in 2020.
DONT SELL THE COLORADO!!!!
someone is coming this weekend to peep it, might leave with it
Sep=thumbs down.