Convert Weber BBQ Grill from Natural Gas to Propane or vice versa
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- A clear and easy video on how to convert your BBQ grill from Natural Gas to LP Propane, or vice versa. (following the same basic procedures) The key is to have the right tools and the right parts -especially the right size orifices (brass nozzles). I am not a licensed whatever whatever so stay safe, don't try this at home, etc. etc. Yes, I am aware that in the video I said "ratchet" when I intended to say "open end wrench." ok relax! - just trying to help you folks to save a LOT of money.
Parts to purchase beforehand include: hand drill bit set ($15 on amazon), pipe thread sealant (this is a must! don't try to use some other product as a substitute - $4 on amazon), Brass jet nozzles (orifices) size: "M6 x 0.75mm thread and 0.5mm nozzle ($8 on amazon)," a Universal low pressure propane hose and regulator model : "QCC1" (2 feet long is usually fine; $16 on amazon). this is the final step which I did not show in the video. the best part is from the Weber website and its item number 67069. Connect the hose in place of where your Natural gas hose was. simple.
Something the narrator forgot to mention: The orifice air mix needs to be adjusted on each burner, by rotating the metal sleeve covering the screening to reduce the opening size. The propane will not ignite at the natural gas opening setting (too much air diluting the propane). Also, the orifices work as bought and don’t require drilling the opening larger.
I inadvertently bought a NG Weber Spirit 2 not knowing the difference between NP and Propane, and then stupidly just changed out the hose to LP Propane. The flames were hot and high! Stumbled upon this video and ordered the replacement brass orifices. (.5mm and drill bits to assure correct sizing.). In my case, the flame was then too low, (unit only came up to 350'f).
Given my lesson about using the NG orifice which was too big, I continued to re-drill my new brass orifices to .8mm and it now works like a dream.
I know a lot of people are correctly cautioning about doing what I did. If my experience helps, there it is. Mark, thank you for the video!
@@stevenandrews5607 you’re welcome. Glad you got it going. Happy grilling
I just finished my conversion of my Weber Spirit II with your help, and I just wanted to say Thank You So Much! The instructions were easy and I purchased the items on Amazon that I didn;t have lying around my home. So excited and pleased with the results. Thanks again for taking the time to make this video that kept me from having to purchase a new grill!!
Glad it helped!
Did you go with the same orifices that he is calling out? Do you have a link to what you bought?
Just wanted to say thank you!
I found a Weber spirit e310 for $100cad, was able to convert it from NG to LPG thanks to your tutorial. Everything was expected, drilling the 0.8mm hole, the thread size.
Hopefully this can help many others, and save some bbqs from the landfill!
Propane orifice = .032" = .8mm = 1/32"= letter size drill bit 67- approximately
Thank you. Is that what the original profane size he got in the video before drilling? I drilled mine to #57 and it’s way too much
Thank you.
Great details. I was going to sell my natural gas barbecue.
Very hard decision but now I will try following your steps.
Wish me luck.
How did it go? Were you successful?
I was just able to successfully do this with a 3 burner Weber Genesis. Thanks for the help.
Right on! Happy grilling
Very well done demonstration. Articulate and easy to follow. Thank you for the information. Exactly what I was looking for.
Wow thanks Mark followed your directions to the tee on a Weber 3 burner, works perfectly. Thank you very much.
Well done and thanks for posting. I have the weber spirit 3 burner, same model style as yours. I want to go to natural gas from propane. Of course I want both options available. Great job, much appreciated.
Ok good luck. You’ll need to remove the regulator and get the hose that’s for Natural gas. Also the 3 orifices will need to be changed for larger opening or yiu could drill them. (Which is probably what I’d do). Also the air vent on each burner Tube will need to be closed more. Meaning for. Propane is require more air vent, for natural gas it requires less vent.
I have the Spirit E-310 natural gas. Wanting to change to propane.
Great demonstration and instructions. Very impressive. Thank you!
I used the blackstone griddle natural gas conversion kit for my Weber genesis e310 and everything worked perfectly! I was looking at a kit online for the grill conversion and it cost $115+ where the blackstone kit was $49. The one online came with a 1/2 psi regulator and from my research a residential meter regulates your home to 1/4 psi so there was no point in having the 1/2 psi one since it cant get that high anyway. I hooked everything up with a shutoff valve below the quick connect and it works perfectly and now I can also plug my griddle into the line, so no more propane!! Hope this helps and saves you some cash.
We have the same grill.....I'm thinking about doing the same. It's really that easy?
Insanely helpful. Thank you Mark!
Now this is how you make a tutorial, excellent!
glad you liked it :)
Outstanding video sir
This is a homemade video on how to convert your BBQ grill from Natural Gas to LP Propane, or vice versa if you follow the same basic procedures. The key is to have the right tools and the right parts -especially the right size opening on the orifices (nozzles). I am not a licensed whatever whatever so stay safe, don't try this at home, etc. etc. Yes, I am aware that in the video I said "ratchet" when I intended to say "open end wrench." ok relax; LOL. Also, this isn't a Hollywood production - just trying to help you folks to save a Lot of money.
Parts to purchase beforehand include: hand drill bit set ($15 on amazon), pipe thread sealant (this is a must! don't try to use some other product as a substitute - $4 on amazon), Brass jet nozzles (orifices) size: "M6 x 0.75mm thread and 0.5mm nozzle ($8-$10 on amazon)," a Universal propane hose and regulator model : "QCC1" (2 feet long is usually fine; $16 on amazon). this is the final step which I did not show in the video. Connect this new QCC1 hose in place of where your Natural gas hose was. simple.
Been trying to figure to this conversion out for a couple years now. Perfect video! Thanks for the product info as well!
Great! happy to help - good luck!
Is it the low pressure or high pressure hose?
@@thomasbishop3334 low pressure
@@markjaquith8359 thank you sir it's all ordered from Amazon:) I'll let ya know how it goes
thanks Mark!
Without question one of the BEST 'step-by-step' instructional videos I've ever seen - VERY well done - thank you! (and it took me 10 minutes to get my UA-cam 'account' opened so I could post this! But you deserve the compliment. One thing I'd ask/mention: I'll assume you enlarge the 0.5 orifice because 'we want a higher burn' on the grill? Thanks again - well done.
I'm glad it was helpful. yes correct, the 0.5 will NOT allow enough fuel to pass through. you must drill/open it a bit. For converting to propane you want to get the orifice to .8mm. one person commented below the following and I believe its accurate: "Propane orifice = .032" = .8mm = 1/32"= letter size drill bit 67 approximately"
@@markjaquith8359 Thank you again. Per your advice I got the 0.50 jets and the 0.80 mm drill bit(s). I discovered that even the smallest collet I have for my Dremel would not 'hold' this tiny drill bit. And I didn't have the hand tool that you used. So . . . what I did - and it worked quite well - was to put the jet in my handheld drill chuck - lightly tightening it. I then put the drill in a small pair of Vice-Grips. So as I'm sure you've just guessed. I rotated not the drill bit, but rather the jet . . . with the Vice-Grips I 'pressed' the drill bit to the existing hole and had the handheld drill rotate the jet . . . carefully. It worked well and I got the jet drilled out. I used some 1000 sandpaper to smooth everything down, and now I'm ready to go. I HOPED I could use the natural gas hose and especially the expensive quick-release fittings that are on the grill . . . but researched and have been advised to absolutely NOT use ANYTHING from the natural gas 'system.' So thank you again!
Hi their, I want to do the opposite , I want to convert from LP to natural gas for my Weber Genesis barbeque I believe the model is 438 , and I don’t seem to be able to find the conversion kit on Weber‘s website can you tell me where can I find something like that, by the way I’m in Canada. Thanks a million for your help
I can’t control the flame after swapping out the orifices and regulator hose. Converted NG to LP. What can I do?
What unit are you working on? A Weber or some other brand? It’s possible the regular hose is the wrong one or is defective. I’d try using a different one
That’s so much! I’ll Let you know how it goes. We are trying to convert my Mom’s Weber Spirit to Propane. One question: Why did you have to drill the new nozzles out? Should they come with the correct size opening? Thanks so much.
I haven’t been able to find the nozzles for sale that come pre drilled for the exact right size. They come with a microscopic hole which is nice and serves as a drilling guide. Buy the micro bit set and match it up with the thickness of a standard American SMALL paper clip. Not a large paper clip, nor the ones that come plastic coated!
@@markjaquith8359 I can’t find the one’s that needs drilled. Where do you get them? What size is the final hole? I can only find one’s with openings .8mm or .5mm. Is either of those the correct size?
I have a weber Genesis natural gas grill without a regulator. I was reading that Weber natural gas grills do not need a regulator. I was going to change my other Weber Summit to natural gas. Does this need a regulator? Anybody know? Please help.
Natural gas units do not have or need a regulator. You will however need the appropriate hose and the orifices that are much more open and appropriate for NG
Do you have a link for the orifices?!
Can you please tell me what the orifice size should be for this specific weber model number running on natural gas? Im converting to natural gas.
Thanks for the video. I did this but didn’t drill into the orifices based on advice from someone at my local hardware store. Did it on a BRAND new unused Weber spirit II but once I’ve hooked the tank up, I cannot get the grill to light. Igniter appears to be working, and we can smell the propane making its way through, but even with a long lighter we get nothing. Is this the result of not poking a hole thru orifices?
@@neils8020 I only didn’t drill into the orifices because I was advised not to - totally new regulator/hose and used sealant. I am so annoyed I listened to the guy at the hardware store now. I really don’t want to disassemble this thing again. I am seeing in the shadows of the inside of the grill that propane is being emitted, curious as to why it’s still not enough to light?
@@neils8020 ended up getting a mini hand drill and doing the orifices. Just lit! I’m still a bit nervous because it’s gas etc but I’m just a worrier.
Kevin, the reason it won’t ignite is the air mixture is not properly adjusted for propane. You will need to rotate the metal sleeve that covers each burner screen to reduce the size of the air opening from the natural gas setting to the smaller propane setting. I had the same problem, because there was too much air mixing with the propane, so it would not burn. Good luck!
Is there anything I need to do with the hose after this procedure? Or can I just use the hose from the grill and attach directly to my propane tank?
The hose that is intended for natural gas needs to be disposed of and replace it with a hose for propane with the regulator.
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Just made this switch after drilling out the orifices--thanks! The 0.8mm bit broke right away so went with 0.9mm. The grill works, however, I only have a high flame now except for between off and pilot light I can get a low flame. Just nothing in the normal range from high to low. Any thoughts?
Hi Tim, unfortunately you'll have to get new orifices and get back to 0.8. opening. I made the same mistake once and made the hole too big and it did like you said, basically a High flame the whole time, and not only that, when too much propane is flowing it can make it difficult to actually light. is your unit 3 burner or 2?
3 burner
@@TimCindi ok, I think my best advice would be to redo it with orifices drilled to .8mm. the other thing is the regulator/hose. sometimes they are faulty and getting a different brand can work better than some. the weber ones are so expensive (I think ballpark of $60) I have used charbroil purchased on amazon, and my latest was this one (which worked well on a 3-burner unit):
www.amazon.com/dp/B01J5DLW9K?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
What size orifice do I drill for a 3 burner since the BTU rating is higher than a 2 burner? Would it be the same .7 or .8mm bit?
I would go .8mm bit
Weber natural gas to propane
Can I insert the new orfices and not apply tube sealant?
You might b able to use Teflon tape. But do not insert the new orifices alone or there could be leaks. Any reputable plumber would say the same -must seal the threads.
The money you can get for the natural gas grill by selling it will get you a new propane grill. Why would you downgrade?
not always true. often times there is a higher demand for propane and if you try to see a NG grill then you may not get a buyer. Depends completely on the city and demographic, and of coarse the publics' needs.
Why do you have to drill?
As I shared in the video; The orifice comes too small so the right amount of propane will not pass through. Must drill it a bit. Please watch the whole video and you’ll get it.
What size is the orifices hole? What size drill bit did you use??
Well he said a 7mm pencil should be close enough. So, a 7mm or 8mm bit will suffice.
@@meirrox100 do not drill a hole 7mm or 8mm. It is .8mm
What size is the drill bit? Trying to do the same grill and orfice. Thank you
The micro drill bits are not labeled. It’s about the thickness of a standard SMALL Paper clip. Actually, the thickness of the bit should be a teeny tiny bit less than the paper clip
@@markandaimee1 luckily I have another spirit e-210 so I am going to pull one of those lp orfice and buy a pack of micro bits and match it up. Thanks for the response. I can’t make heads or tails of the online size charts…👍🏼
GREAT idea to compare from your other orifices. also, some of the regulators on amazon are allowing too much flow - making a huge Flame. you may consider buying the weber OEM regulator from their website. its part number 67069.
@@impetiousdoom Did you find out what size nozzle is needed?
I've been looking for an answer for one simple question. I can't seem to get a definite answer anywhere. I came here to find out what size the orifice hole (#Drill Bit) needs to be and He doesn't say!
sorry bro - get a set of micro bits and simply chose the one that is the same thickness as a small paper clip! That's the one! I'm sure you can scrounge up a paperclip somewhere right ? :)
I just followed this video, but the propane doesnt seem to be coming out of the orifaces. Should I retry with the next size up drill bit? Is there anything else that could be causing this issue?
No! Do not make the orifice openings any bigger or they become useless for Gas LP. If no gas flow then maybe you used excess pipe dope and clogged the hole. (?) Or maybe your tank is mostly empty and the gas is not getting through. If your propane tank is older than 8 years I highly suggest getting a new one. Check your gas line into the manifold to make sure all connections are back in place
Also, if your burners are old and crusty (or clogged with BBQ sauce) then take a wire brush to them so that the burner tubes are cleaned and the holes are clear
Is it the same size hole you drill for a 3 burner spirit?
The btu per-hour input, will determine the size hole to drill.
Will this work on a Monument 14633 Grill two burner?
I am not familiar with that brand of grill. I use Weber only
Could be dangerous. Very irresponsible to be giving advice on something as serious as a fuel conversion. Especially in such a non technical way. Each model of Weber has a different BTU rating. Using a paper clip as your guide as to which size drill bit needed is not a good idea. This video is for converting a 2 burner Spirit model, a 3 burner Spirit has a different BTU rating therefore a different size hole. Same thing with the Genesis and Summit Models, they all have different BTU ratings per burner and different size holes.
It’s ok if u don’t like the video - however it has been helpful to many!
Of course a 3 burner Spirit has a higher BTU rating than a 2 burner - 3 burners put put more heat (BTU’s) than 2 burners. Duh. Your comment is incorrect and irrelevant, Pete.
I just did a 3 burner one like this and it’s letting all the propane threw very loudly when i ignited it the knobs caught on fire what did i do wrong?
@@cesarrosales7793 check your lines, you must have a leak. I'm guessing the fuel pipe (semi-bendable) that connects to the manifold is not tight and its leaking fuel...or the orifices are too large. for propane, the opening needs to not exceed 0.8mm., the other thing is maybe you didn't use pipe sealant when you put the orifices back into place.
@@glensamels4964 So, you agree that different models have different BTUs therefore different hole sizes. Then how is my comment incorrect? Try not to stutter this time. "3 burners put put more heat"... Lol