First Time Hearing Welcome To the Machine, Have A Cigar, Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd Album)
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This is why real Floyd fans cannot emphasize enough that you must listen to the album first to really appreciate the production engineering flow and concepts that supports all the other extraordinary musical and vocal talents you hear from just listening to one track alone. And it only makes the live performances when you see them that much more exciting.
They truly are the whole package. They were playing 3D chess in the '70s when everyone else was playing checkers.
Nice reaction.
Maybe its just my interpretation but the transition from 'Have a Cigar' into 'Wish You Were Here' hits me so hard. Its like you're one of the guys in the band at a party, living the high life, and then WHOOSH now you're poor Syd Barrett, sitting alone in your house listening to your former band's new record playing on the radio. It feels like watching your dreams coming true but stuck on the outside looking in. The song ends so you change the dial to another station, only to hear the beginning of another Pink Floyd song. You pick up your guitar and play along, for its the only way you can feel like you're jamming with your old bandmates. And then they start singing directly to you.
Wow Mental B - cool take. I never thought about it that way going back to Syd again as lonely
You have just blown my mind... nearly 50 years after it came out and after I have listened to it many hundreds of times. Pink Floyd never stops giving
Ouch! Your vision hits like a hammer. It’s a testament to how Pink Floyd seem to be able to plug their music directly into your brain and take over your senses and emotions. It’s such a trippy experience and for me this album is is simply one of the best ever.
And the band’s and Roger’s sensibility to sud’s feelings is what the “Floydisim ” is about ..
I always pictured just an average fan listening but I have wondered why the dial search. Interesting take 🌜💨
Have a cigar is an amazing example of how genius Pink Floyd was. Instead of having someone from the band sing the song, they had a fellow musician that was recording in the studio that day and they decided to have him sing the song. This gives it the Third person vibe and completely changes the dynamic of the tune 😉
That fellow musician happened to be none other than Mr. Roy Harper. From what I understand is David put down a track, so did Roger. Roger didn't care for David's, nor did David care for Roger's. Not that neither were good but it wasn't fitting. And I'm sure after much bitching, frustrated Roy wandered in and they ask him and the rest is history. The same Roy Harper that Zeppelin speaks about on 3.
@@rondarnell949 indeed. You’ve got it
@@rondarnell949 Great musician in his own right. His "When an Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease" is one of my favourite songs.
Actually they all tried the vocal, but Roy Harper imitating Roger Waters ended up on the track.
@@bartstarr100 was he imitating Waters? Thought he was just putting his own spin on it, but that’s intriguing
Ngl Roy Harper’s voice fits perfectly with Pink Floyd as if he’s one of the band members. Such a masterpiece!!😮💨👌🏻🔥🔥🔥
13:03 "We're so happy we can hardly count." One of my favorite little lines of all time.
Yes! I've loved it ever since the album came out. So nasty.
Holy shit, great points and I agree completely. The transition from Shine on to Wish You Were Here literally feels like they are entering the machine that makes products out of humans. Then it feels like you are going up an elevator above the machine, where the soulless music industry is benefiting from the product of the machine. Then its like they are sitting alone, introspecting in Wish You Were Here. Which is, definitely partially about Syd, but also like you said before, wishing that some past version of themselves was still there, and in the end for all the success and the changes, they are still running over the same old ground, with the same old fears.
This album is insane.
Darkside, wish you,animals, and the wall are the best 4 album run of any band ever!!!
The great thing about those albums is they are not just a collection of songs, they were recorded to be listened to from start to finish.
Wait until you listen to Animals!
I'd go further;
Meddle, Obscured By Clouds, Darkside, WYWH, Animals, The Wall.
Each is a masterpiece in it's own right.
No one said they they could follow Dark Side . Floyds finished . It’s a one hit wonder and they followed it with this . My favourite Floyd album . Gilmour started playing the bass as well as guitar on this album . Superb musician
My friend, I watch a lot of people reacting to músic but I feel that you are TRULY reacting to It. You analyse It, you feel It. It is a pleasure to hear you Talk about music we LOVE. And also you are make us notice Things that had escaped us for so long! Thank you! I'm longing to see you react to the last part of the record, it's my favoutite part!!
This whole album is about how the record industry destroyed the sanity of Syd Barrett, so you are spot on. Welcome to The machine is about the music industry being like a machine, initially welcoming the talent, but later controlling the person, and demanding they keep producing content to keep feeding the machine, Have a Cigar is a closer inspection of how record companies suck up to potential new talent but never really care about them, hence the line "the band is just fantastic, that's what I really think, oh by the way which one's pink". Some critics felt that Roger Waters was biting the hand that fed them, by criticising the very industy that had made all the band members multi millionaires.
Darkside is the making of a rockstar, wish you where here is the machine as in the record company telling them how great they are. Animals is how they feel like they are just animals or puppets in the game. Then the wall is them alienating themselves from the record label and fans.
The end of Welcome To the Machine is a high speed elevator transporting the main character to a penthouse party on the heels of his success. This is where the executives are celebrating the money he made for them. What literally everyone misses is if you listen very closely and carefully, after the laughter fades out completely you can hear a "pop" sound as if the bubble burst on his fame and fortune as he fades into oblivion. It's an amazing yet subtle touch.
Hah! I remember thinking that about the pop and I've NEVER until you writing this now seen another person say out the same thing. Nice. 👍
Yes!
And the start of track Wish You Were Here, where its the artist alone scrolling through radio stations finds one of the bands previous hits, an example of the "steel breeze" referenced in the earlier Shine On You Crazy Diamond which he then just jams over it with his acoustic guitar. Beautifully done.
Roy Harper sings on this and Have a cigar. When Gilmour did some solo shows in early 80s; I saw him and he had Roy come on and play. Great gig btw.
The Engineer behind Dark side of the Moon was the amazing Alan Parsons.
The engineer on Wish you were here was Barry Humphries. he did Animals aswell.
Hmmmm I wonder why they didn’t continue with Parsons? I mean, good lord…he did DSOTM for Pete’s sake!
@@helenespaulding7562 I'd have to check my dates of record and release but Alan Parsons did an album called I Robot...The Alan Parsons Project...
Thinking about the album as a whole is also a 'journey' or storytelling...lots of good songs on I Robot...I Breakdown is my favorite...I Wouldn't Want To Be Like You is another great song from it as well
@@sqonk21 love I Wouldn’t Want to be Like You
I appreciate that you listened for the transition from Machine to Cigar, but there isn't one because that was the flip from side 1 to side 2 of the album. One of my favorite PF transitions is from Cigar to WYWH. For me, it is hearing the now famous "band" of the story on the radio; the listener (maybe the guitarist for the "band") turns the dial on the radio and lands on an acoustic guitar player. Maybe it reminds him of his earlier days and he begins to play along and improvise a melody, reminiscing of his old band mate(s). That leads into the lyrics of WYWH and sets up the lyrical climax of the album. Sad and poetic and very much a piece and part of life.
I think theres no transition musically but theres definitely a transition in the story they are telling. The end of Welcome to the Machine very clearly seems to lead to them going to a big room full of stars and music industry executives.
Also, Welcome to the Machine was originally supposed to transition directly into Have a Cigar when they recorded it. But in production they decided to split Shine on into two halves and stuck the second half into the second side, moving Welcome to the Machine to the first side.
My word, of all the youtube streamers you are by far the best and most inciteful commentator have heard, many thanks for your perspective....
Great reaction and interpretation to a great Floyd album Syed. It's hard to pick a favorite for me but I sure do like "Have a Cigar". I love the groove, the guitar licks and last but not least, the vocal delivery. Provided by none other than the great Roy Harper who was the inspiration to the Led Zeppelin song "Hats off to Roy Harper", off of their 3rd album. Apparently he happened to be in the studio and offered to do the vocal after both David and Roger "declined" for some reason. I for one am glad that they did. Hats off to Roy Harper for that. 😊✌️🎩
Pink Floyd is,was,always will be just bad ass.The creativity in their music is amazing. They have a sound that is all their own,nothing else like it.Everything about them from lyrics,vocals,musicianship,videos, and live performances just doesn’t get better.Each person in the group was a star in their own right, but David Gilmours abilities with the guitar was the sound that made Pink Floyd such a iconic group.
So glad your starting to understand these tracks as a whole!! Awesome band of ALL TIME!!!!🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴
I've really been enjoying your Pink Floyd videos. It was my Dad's favorite band and became one of mine as well. Hope you hit up some of their early stuff as it is kind of different. Also, I'd like to request Too Old To Rock and Roll, Too Young to Die by Jethro Tull. Lyrically, it one of my all time favorite songs and I' think you would enjoy digging into it. Cheers!
Thanks for the donation and the kind words. Its so cool to see people connect through music and my videos. Your Dad had great taste in music.
Your suggestion is now on the list mate!
Great great album as well, by the same name!
I'm so happy you're checking this shit out man. Musician of a very long time of my life and they are not my absolute favorite band by any means but they are way way way way way way up there. They had such an impact on me growing up as a kid.
Yes. It's the flow of the music throughout the album on a lot of the older '60's, 70's...
Simply put, this song and "Have a Cigar" were written as an indictment of the recording industry and how they treat artists.
Cigar might have my favourite solo from Dave. Love it. and the Radio transition into Wish is just amazing.
Masterful commentary on this video. Yet again it's another insightful triumph
"It's so much more impactful when you hear it in the context of the album"... YES! and the transitions go boom.
I never realized that the vocal on Cigar wasn't Waters till years after I got into Floyd. He knocked it out of the park.
Quite the album, the way it flows for this band is an audio miracle, it just never gets old, no matter how many times you hear it. Quite the 3 song stretch and a withering commentary on the music industry in those days. For me Meddle, through the Wall, is as good a 5 album stretch as you will ever hear. More greatness to come. Enjoy! 🎵🎸🎤🎹🎷🎶
Don't forget Obscured By Clouds and count the string 6 masterpieces in a row!
@@ianfortier6796 Yes, another fine effort, and remarkable that it is a soundtrack. Like More it has some killer tracks.
Have a Cigar is such a great track. I love it when Gilmour goes all bluesy. And when you think when this was made, this was so far ahead of its time in terms of how they played with their sound. It still sounds better than anything produced today. It is a masterpiece ❤️
Roy Harper worked extensively with Jimmy Page and influenced Led Zeppelin. When you get to Led Zeppelin's third album, you'll find a Hats Off to (Roy) Harper song
One of the first chord progressions I learned on guitar. Still an amazing song all these years later.
Same here, it was so satisfying to make such simple chords with your own fingers.
from have a cigar to wish you were here, they transitioned into and old radio, then a guy playing along to that radio, then into the song, a call back to how they first got into music.
That is Gilmour singing along with the guitar at the end. He composes most of his solos by singing them first, then working them out on guitar. This time, he left the voice bleed into the track.
They need to see them live !
Your "Another Brick in the Wall" comment was appropriate. "Welcome to the Machine" definitely points the way towards some of the musical sounds and lyrical ideas used on The Wall. A great track. It and "Have a Cigar" are both scathing attacks on the music business and the way it is run by people who only see the dollar signs. And "Wish You Were Here" is another beautiful song for Syd - a song which you grasp perfectly for its context within the album.
Yes often Floyd's songs often link in but welcome to the machine was the end of side one on LP and cassette 😉👍
The guitar lick on have a cigar- wicked as all out
Have you done an album side reaction to Rush’s 2112 album? Or The Who’s rock operas Tommy and Quadrophenia? I think you would really enjoy all three. #rush #2112 #thewho #tommy #quadrophenia
Yes, those albums would sound fine next to Pink Floyd reactions, more musical genius.
You realize that now you have to move on to "Animals" the next step before "The Wall" - Waters begins to take over the direction of the band. Gilmour is absolutely on fire. "Animals" is a bitter, ugly, mean-spirited and paranoid masterwork. But man, this is a band that handles self-destruction very well. In the beginning.
Wish you were here makes me cry thinking of my friend that's passed- every damn time- pink Floyd really are masters at what they do
Maybe it's just me but I love how the record exec is so "sincere" that he doesn't even bother to add the "ly".
Damn man your actions are smart enough you might be able to actually handle really early pink floyd. It doesn't show up in reactions from what I can tell although I haven't explicitly searched for it. But I would say like see Emily play. And then follow that with be careful with that axe eugene. This will give you a want to punch glimpse into their earlier Persona which of course now we're back heavily in the 60s and said bear it is around and all that but it just shows you what they evolved into later. But each in their own way, I actually fell in love with those songs. They were really special even back then.
Roy Harper, Zeppelin did a tribute to him, Hats Off to Roy Harper.
Welcome to the Machine is interesting for two factors. First - here for the first time a musical progression is heard, which will receive its final development in the Wall. The second is that dreams of rock star success and fame will later also be developed in the Wall. So this song is like a teaser for the upcoming album
22:43
1. Not a trumpet but a synthesizer.
2. vocalization is a vocal rendition of a slide guitar solo replacing the guitar with voice. The fact that Gilmore can hit all those notes with his voice I think reveals a lot of the inspiration for rock vocals with the singer in almost a competition with the guitar. Robert Plant demonstrated this scatting along with page's guitar a few times.
3. Bands like Pink Floyd and Genesis didn't just craft songs as little dalliances, but crafted entire albums as long pilgrimage style journeys that represent lifelong studies in the existential puzzles of living design.
The concept of this album is very much what the band was experiencing at the time, particularly after they had achieved such massive success with DSOTM. Missing Syd, being consumed by the machine, the big wigs that wanted the next "hit" and the fractures within the band that had started to appear.
Great reaction!! I have heard this song a lot over the years, but I never thought of the transition as a door opening - wow - thank you for your insight! Keep up the classic Rock
The Machine is the music industry.
The GOAT bro who else could.... ???
Pink Floyd is one of the all-time greats that didn't make singles. Listening to any of their albums outside of the whole or album significantly negated the overall effect of the material. I grew up a hard rock guy, mainly listening to Zep, Sabbath, Deep Purple, Van Halen, etc. But Floyd is one of those bands that broke all boundaries and stretched way beyond any genre, thus the success of Dark Side of the Moon and many of their mid-period albums. Nothing flashy about them, but the way they sculpted a musicscape with sound, song, and word is second to none.
Those funny sounds ar the end of Wish……is David making his famous guitar sound with his voice. You can see him do at Pulse…..I once saw him pick up a Sax and play it like it was his instrument and sit down at a set of drums and go off…..he is a musical god.
Although not completely confirmed as far as I know, it is rumoured that the cough in the beginning is David coughing before he starts playing. Even though they opted to keep it in the recording he didn't like how he sounded and quit smoking.
The machine and have a cigar is about the music industry that chewed Syd up and spit him out. This album is awesome.
I think the acid did that.
@@helenespaulding7562 acid is a blast!
@@robertherring9277 it can be. However, done too often and too much can be damaging. That’s what happened to Syd.
"it's a hell of a start"..... Except the band has been working their asses off for years struggling, but to the music exec this is the first he's heard of them.... an overnight success 🤔
Genios absolutos, en el que quizás fué su máximo momento de inspiración musical. Liricamente, desde Dark................. fueron brillantes
I am absolutely not saying it was better, but that's how we used to do it. We'd buy an album, get together with friends and any appropriate party favors, and listen to the album. And we'd talk about the musical performance and the composition, and the songs, and what they meant.
Wish you were here …so simple ,yet it grabs you hard and will not let go.The sum of loss is a simple eloquent melody.From the least of things comes the greatest.
Slightly more nuanced than Queen's Death on Two Legs, it is indeed about the music industry. And yes, Syd did fall prey to it, although the core of his issues were within him I believe.
The “Trumpet sound” is a synthesizer setting.
I always thought in the I'll of have a cigar - the machine is the record industry
On ""Wish You Were Here" Gilmour is playing the solo and scat singing the same notes at the same time. He does this also on live performances.
your analysis of music is amazing so it is no surprise to me that you put Pink Floyd on a entirely different level from other bands.
the album is 1 of the great artifacts of human history imo
Syed... What you hear at the end of Wish you were here is Gilmour using either a Vocoder or Talk Box in order to merge his vocals and his guitar, he is notorious for that. Just a creative genius.
He's just harmonizing with himself. Singing the same thing he's playing. Neither talk box nor vocoder have separate sounds for voice and instrument. Talk box just uses the mouth as an expression device, like wah or an envelope filter. Vocoder adds your vocal characteristics to the tone of an instrument. I'm sure you can separate the 2 somehow but this is not that complicated
you really should check out Alan Parsons project - I Robot album. He was the Pink Floyd engineer
Pink floyd is my favorite band, have a cigar my favorite song from them. My sadness when I found out it was a studio singer
It's records like this that make you realize that it cannot be reproduced today.
Polyphonic has just released a quite deep analysis of this song.
Check out the documentary on pink Floyd on when they meet and started playing together. Fascinating. you'll like it
Alan Parsons was an engineer on Floyd projects. You need to dive into his library.
I've said it before, but listening to a song from Pink Floyd is akin to reading a random chapter from a book.
You can get the flavor, but you'll never get the story.
Whish You Were Here is a lament to Syd and hearing it in context makes if sound even more mournful, the acoustic guitar at the beginning now sounds even more like more like it is crying. The sound that sound sad is the beauty of Rick Wright's synthesiser work, it is always amazing but on this album Rick is just performing at another level.
The machine is reference to the corrupt system we live in, specifically the music industry theme of this album (have a cigar)
Your interpretations are mostly spot on. I wouldn’t necessarily put Have a Cigar in my top 10 Floyd songs, but it’s brilliant on several levels. The story is neither Roger or David were happy with their own vocals when they tried it. I’ve heard live versions from that time and I think they do fine on it. But Roy Harper somehow, for me, sounds like a mash of both Roger and David at the same time. And the context of the song, having somehow else sing seems fitting. Which One’s Pink? This was explored later on The Wall, with the “surrogate band” idea. Whether it was a brilliant idea or a happy coincidence, it works so well.
"Oh, by the way, which one's Pink," such a perfect example of a fake music exec kissing up to a band when he knows nothing about them. And the best part of that line is it is an actual quote that some exec said to them in a meeting.
Oh, there is no transition between Welcome to the Machine and Have a Cigar because they were on different sides of the vinyl album!
Welcome to the Machine was originally supposed to transition directly into Have a Cigar when they recorded it. But in production they decided to split Shine on into two halves and stuck the second half into the second side, moving Welcome to the Machine to the first side.
@@shaheerraza4096 I don't think that SOYCD I-IX could fit on one side di they had to split it. It works very well as bookends.
@@izzonj Isnt echoes just 2 minutes shorter. I agree 27 minutes would be a bit long and they'd have to cut something. Which might have been a good idea tbh.
@@shaheerraza4096 Echoes is 23 1/2 min. which is a long run for an lp but not outrageous. I wonder if they edited Echoes it to fit an album side but they didn't want to edit SOYCD.
A couple of years after WYWHI know that Stevie Wonder would use some special record pressing techniques on "Songs..." that spaces the grooves closer to get longer plays without too much loss of fidelity.
Floyd mostly had a couple of years between albums so by the time WYWH, Animals and the Wall were released you were foaming at the mouth! Most other bands would drop an album a year but Floyd were Floyd and loved it!
When I first bought WYWH back in '76 the immediate impression was that the entire album had a defined structure, a geometry, like a matrix or machine consisting of different compartments accessed by lifts, circuitry and ducts. I found myself moved from one compartment to the next through various transportation and filter modes in rigid perpendicular directions up down and sideways, revealing on each level a new soundscape with its own complexion and mood. The genius of this album is not only in its musicality but also in its stylized structure.
Gilmour added his voice to the guitar solo in Wish You Were here, most of us do not recognize though. He performs thin in live. You got to check it.
The amazing thing is not only what the did, but the fact that they did it when no one else had. Everything was groundbreaking, and new.
The line "Oh, and by the way...which one's Pink?" was a line that an executive actually said to them in a meeting. Also the name of a really solid BBC doc. Worth your time: ua-cam.com/video/202wWg4QAss/v-deo.html
Time you expose your self to the greatness of devin Townsend, deadhead is a good song to start with.
Excellent reaction Sir🤟
Alan Parsons, a great musician in his own right (The Alan Parsons Project), was the engineer. I think!
I love how you can hear echoes of past and future albums in WYWH. Have a Cigar feels like a premonition of Animals.
At last, someone who does these together!. Seen a few reactors look very puzzled when it suddenly goes mono😊. Thats the problem with doing PF track by track, it messes up all the great transitions . With Time, most reactors don't even realise they listen to Breathe Reprise as a second song, they assume its just the ending of Time.
Animals next? Really enjoying your reactions.
I believe it's about the machine being the music industry.
Suddenly PF was a Cash Cow and a valuable commodity to be sold in the marketplace.
So it wasn’t music but product that needed to be moved. And they resented it. So they did this satirical criticism of how they were being treated.
There is no transition between Welcome to the Machine and Have a Cigar because that's when you flipped the vinyl album over back then.
You got it , 👍
You got it
Love FLOYD ❤also Suggest SHINEDOWN Simple Man cover & then the Sound of Madness 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You really need to let that transition play out into the second half of Shine On You Crazy Duamond. It's critical to get the full effect.
Wish You Were Here was Engineered by Brian Humphries where as Dark Side was Engineered by Alan Parsons, Alan was asked to Engineer the album but turned it down as he wanted to be more involved with the sound as a producer, not just mix things following the bands instructions, he wanted more creative input and he knew Pink Floyd would jot let him do that.
Also the two men on the cover are making a deal - but one of them is getting burned (figuratively and literally)
Also I believe the trumpet is Richard Wright on synths.
For me it sounds like at the end of Welcome to the Machine there is a descent to reality and the elevator door opens to a large group of party-goers discussing the success of the band and they all shut up when the band exits the elevator joining them for a ceremony in the next part of the story where the band is offered something less than an understanding in the guise of a cigar.
Just found you. Like your analytical observations. I'm sure you would like Pink Floyd's album, "Animals". Thanks.
Could you please react to their last concert together in Live 8? It's a thrill to see, it's historic and there Will never be again... 😔❤️