Beta 500 RR-S Dual Sport First Impressions - A Tale of Two Betas
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- I had a chance to ride two very different Beta 500 RR-S Dual Sport Motorcycles recently, and while they were essentially the same bike, they were VERY different!
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I own a 2018 Beta 390 RR-S set up for week long off-road Moto-Camping trips. I avoided the 500 due to excessive HP that I figured would just get me in trouble. The 390 has a longer stroke than the 500-430 or 350 and feels like it has the most useable torque of the bunch. Im a lazy, short shifting old bastard that often finds himself in a gear or two higher then he should be. With the 390 it just doesn’t seem to matter. Twist the throttle and it just chugs its way out of the predicament.
Kind of like driving a diesel truck.
Dirt Bike Channel Kyle Brotherson (a diehard KTM devote) rated the Beta 390 RR as his favorite trail bike.
Easy to ride🤗
I just talked to the local Beta dealer, a guy in his 60's (I'm 71) who rides a 390 himself. He says the 350 needs to rev, the 390 is for short-shifters like us (now riding a DR650) the 430 has a big "hit" and the 480 is a "big baby" - like a 390 but more power.
Now I just gotta wait 10 years for all these awesome new bikes to come down in price...
If you can run across an older Beta say 2012 - up they are basically the same bike aside from fuel injection - I have a 2012 Beta 520RS & geared properly itll still cruise @ 65-70 easily, & top out near 100 & still have all you can hang onto in the woods.
The 2010 bikes are cheap now 🤣
That's why I listen to the reviews on the 2019 and 2020's.. so when I'm ready to buy another bike in 2024 I'll know what to look for! Lol!
TAC Idaho , don't hold your breath. I still see used bikes priced over retail.
I always get excited whenever I see you have posted a new video. As a Utah native myself, I love how well you show off this amazing state that we live in! All the time and effort you put into each one of your videos is definitely worth it! Keep it up!
500 beta is definitely on my bucket list! that perfect bike to do it all and highway speeds! capabilities to do tough single track and power to just get you back home or to your truck if you end up exploring and going way out. Perfect for logging roads and old mining roads with plenty of power in the bank in case something comes up! 701 690 is also close to that "unicorn bike" both are great bikes
I wish there weren’t so many awesome new bikes. I really do. Haha. It tempts the ol’ hankering for a new bike that lay deep in me. I’d love that Beta, a PR7 and a 500 EXC.. oh and a WR 250R. and ... I digress. Great vid man.
I second that !
I have the 2011 "520" ~497 since new and I have had no problems. Best machine I've ever owned. These bikes are amazing.
Thank you so much eveRide and team, outstanding once again. Hands down number one on UA-cam. If you're ever in Australia you will have many travel companions. Cheers mate.
Nice to hear from you again, bless you brother
Video content is great... transition volume between the music and the voiceover was a bit to drastic for me though... had to turn it down for the music and back up for the voice at points...
Regardless, thanks for your contribution to our sport!
I will do better next time.
Love your channel been watching for a few years now
I've been enjoying the 2019 Beta 500 RR-S loaner from Beta USA...it's an amazing bike.
Beautiful video! It was great to hear what a competent bike this can be in either role. It really seems like it could benefit from the bleeding edge technology that was present on my old '73 Suzuki TC-100.... It was a 4-speed, but had a High/Low range lever on the transmission case. It worked really well, and I'd love to have that on my KTM. Thank you for putting so much work and love into your productions. It really shows!
Someone lost there Phone @ 5:40 / 9:27 Hope they realized it, and recovered it.
Yes he got it back right after that shot :)
Loving this side by side comparison of the same bike!
I also ride a KTM 1190 Adventure- and I'm buying a 2019 Beta 500 RR-S this week. So the fact you appreciate KTM and speak so highly of this bike makes me happy that I'm making the right choice. Cool vid. Thanks.
Never got to ride a Beta 500, but I liked the KTM 530 that a friend had. It also was geared really tall. We had a really good buying experience getting a brand new '17 beta crosstrainer 300, set up with a bunch of aftermarket goodies AND plateable here...for substantially less than a stock KTM 2T. I still have a KTM 200EXC for most trail riding or to loan to friends (my wife fits on the Beta better when we go out and ride occasionally). Maybe eventually I'll get a 4 stroke...lots of realllly good fuel-injected options these days, but expensive ($10k). Beta also has a 200RR which is supposedly a light weight beast.
I love my 500, it’s more bike than I need and more capable than I am but who cares!
1:50 ... God what a view !!!
Kudos dude you have a spectacular playground !
That is a great video on the 500. I love my 200rr and have been wanting to add a 500 to the stable ever since I rode one a year ago at a demo.
Love that bike! I was lucky enough to ride a bunch of 2019 Betas at a factory test ride day, and the 500 RR surprised me. It was not on my serious list of models to focus on (Barry has me fixated on the Xtrainer!) but it was the overall best for me. It will be my next purchase. And then I'll be heading to Utah to do some riding with you!
Awsome route , hopefully someday. greatings from Spain!!!!!
I bought a new 2021 Beta 390 RR Race based on this video. Was supposed to get it mid April, got it a month later ... without an exhaust pipe. Two months later ...still no exhaust. Plus the speedo doesn't work.
I guess that's why it is called a Beta. Not ready for production.... no response from dealer, Canadian distributor or Beta Italy. Crickets.
cant hide from my all seeing eye!! i see you at 5:39 hitting that jump and during the landing i see ur phone eject out of ur unzippered riding pants haha.. made my day man thank you for that!! check it out for urself mayb u just didnt see but for some reason pulled my eye right to it... god bless man i salute you for being able to handle such a beast on some of those trails!!! i need to move to the west side of the usa seems like there is amazing riding locations i would die to have over here in boring old ct on the east coast..
take care & check that out for yourself ull get a chuckle for sure 5:39,
-P3T3R
Good to see you back on a bike, we've missed you brother =)
That was one of your best reviews, i really likes the way you edited in the background music, and the drone shots were amazing, I loved it!
Great video and always entertaining to watch as always 🤙🏽 keen for a trail ride now.
Wow, did you just say you liked the KTM??? Yep, agreed!!!! The XC is the deal!
Not just liked... I'd have to say it's the best dirt bike I've ever had the pleasure to ride!
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I couldn’t agree more. I have had many, the most recent being a 530 EXC, now on a 2017 300 XC. They in my opinion are not close in there ability in the single track stuff I ride in southern Oregon. I decided on a Husqvarna 701 for my dual sport because of the maintenance frequency needed on the 500’s. I am assuming the Beta is no different than the KTM. Yes I am blessed to have the 300 for narr off road and the 701 for moto camping. All that’s left is the KTM 1290 or BMW 1250 for long adventures 🙄.
@@JS-ny8sn Have you tried mt-09? Its decent for touring and its fun city bike.
Good to see you well(mostly) in body and spirit
Great vid again mate. Like the look of this bike! Keep em comin
Interesting that they call it a 500rr in america as for the rest of the world it's called a 480rr because it's 480cc
Beta doesnt care , they know with less displacement they can still slay the competition
My dream bike right there :D
I was so torn between the beta and husqvarna but just because of dealer support I went husqvarna
would love to hear your thoughts on the beta 390 / 430. Been eye balling them for a year now.
Beautiful scenery and great cinematography as usual. Utah is looking pretty green for summer. Interesting content and comparison. It made me quite curious about the setup details. Was it as little as countershaft sprocket and clickers? Or were rear sprockets and purpose oriented suspension work involved? Thanks for the great vid.
Excellent content.
Putting together my Sprinter toy hauler so I can get longer distances in comfort as well as get a bike home if I have issues. I may knock on your door next year. Stay up on two!
A 500cc dual sport with a 6 spd should not require a regear when you pull off the trail onto the highway. Why can the manufacturers not figure this out?
Agree 100%, 1st , 2nd & 3rd geared low...5th & 6th geared for lower rpm.
Or just add a 7th gear and make everyone happy.
Mitch and Cassie Shepherd - it can be easily done, remember the older Husky 8 speeds...
My Honda XL 650 sure didn't need a regear. .
Exactly! 1-5 geared low, 6th should be half or less rpm as 5th. Big overdrive.
When you say the suspensions were different, was that because they were just adjusted differently or that the springs had been changed?
You need to give the 390 beta a go, it's a tractor and great in technical terrain.
What is the service interval?
Good show today. I have always loved Colorado, but the Southwest is a close 2nd. If it wasn't so hot in the summer. Hey, I know. I'll by some land in Colorado and Utah. Yeah that's it. Colorado in the summer and Utah in the winter. Then I can ride over to your house and say... let's ride!!! Vaughn
What is d service interval
Another incredible vid!
what about maintenance?
Great video! Only complaint was turning volume up and down when the music played vs your narrative
I have a ‘19 Beta FE 450 and after something absolutely love it. I’ve always had a hankering to ride a Beta since I’ve heard good things about them. Maybe someday soon
Proofread....
210th!!! Do you have the flu, started smoking, attended a Nickleback concert, or just going for that soulful smooth sexy vocals?
Sprockets are still the best and cheapest performance mod.
Looked up the date a few minutes after the music started. Most youtubers learned it drives viewers away by the thousands in 2017.
Why I couldn't finish or like the video to.
Have 250xcw, WRR, need a 390, 500, 690, 790, 1090, 1190, 1290, R1, Street Glide, Grom, Scout, etc., etc., etc. ; )
So, Ty... what you're saying is that I need to sell everything and get two Betas? ;-)
LOL
Highest consistent sales figures in the trials market worldwide for average Joe the last two decades. Beta know the off road market.
Welcome back:)
Nice Vid. thankyou. Nice area too :-)
most riders are not comfortable on a 500 in tight trails, Roost been riding 500 2T's forever, KX500's are my fav and i would love to be on mine in this vid. You think that Beta is a handfull, nah, you just gotta know how to use that power in your favor and not fight it. Looks like a perfect place for a KX500 to me....Roost
Did he find his phone when it fell off at 5:41?
If you get a chance, a review from you on the KTM 790 Adventure R would be awesome. this bike seems to be a game changer.
Shame that a high and low ratio setting isn't within many of these types of bikes.
Man! Have I missed your videos,Tyler! I’ve added SW Utah, meeting you, and possibly riding with you to my 2 year bucket list!
Well done Mr Tyler
Yes Beta are great machines, Long time Mfg early 1900's.
Have rode the mx version, but agree that KTM gets the nod.
Any possibility there maybe a Sherco review sometime ?
There becoming a major player in the enduro market.
Yes there a mixed bag of pieces and parts from euro markets, but
they also come from a long line of moto history. Bultaco and Sherpa..
Nice video! I'm looking to change my HVA 701 for a Beta 500. Where did you find the large capacity fuel tank? What brand? Regarding the maintenance of the motorcycle, what do you think about my 701? The 701 is a superb bike but I find it too heavy for enduro use ... Your region is beautiful! I live in the South of France the slopes are very beautiful but difficult!
Hi. I’m in the same exact situation. What did you end up doing ? Did you buy it/like it ??
@@Lowdown13blues no
Finaly i selle m'y 701
@@giorgio676 so how do you like your Beta 500 so far ?
PLEASE, PLEASE try and do the 390 BETA review
When you say by changing the gearing for different riding situations do you mean by changing front?rear sprockets? I want to purchase a Beta 390RR-S
Yep, those sprockets can make an enormous difference and they're a cheap and easy swap. They're kinda the dual sport's magic potion :)
What ever happened to the 450x? I know you sold it (still a little butthurt you didnt go all out on it) but who has it now? I'd love to see that project carried out. Torture test mag would be awesome for that.
So what was the actual road gearing on the highway Beta?
Nice review.
That is one sexy looking bike.
Usually you do a great job of touching on the reliability of bike/brand, didnt hear anything about it in this video tho :(
So what was the gearing on the low gearing and high gearing. I am running 15/51 and it seems to do everything quite well. My suspension on the soft side as I do more bitumen than I would like.
The cult! Can Galen!
I dug the vid, I didn't even know about this bike Small reminder though, some of the buying links in your description are broken. For example, the shin guards link didn't work:l
Beta 500RR-S 80 mph on the highway, grunt for in the dirt. The answer to the missing 2020 KLR. Not at $10,600 MSRP. Parts availability? Meh.
Typically cool video.
That you so much for the awesome videos and for you being you!
I'm invited to ride with you? Tempting... Do you have a 30 amp RV outlet and a water hookup? I have a toy hauler...
love my beta!
I have a 2000 drz 400e and I am thinking of changing it to a bike I can commute on, only 12miles each way; a bike that can cope with trails and also be used to tour on. Been looking at ktm500exc, husky 501, crf450l, wr450f, gpx450, swmr500rs. Buying second hand except for gpx which is affordable new. Can I be so bold to ask your opinion on these or others I should consider. Phil from N.ireland
Hey! I've been watching your videos for a while and it prompted me to put dual-sporting in Utah on my bucket list. I have a DRZ400SM that I've rode for a few years and have loved it (this is what made me find you a couple of years back).
My brother & I will be putting this on the books for next year - Could you give any advice for routes and where to rent bikes? (We'll be flying in from the Southeast, they won't let me bring my dizzer on the plane for some reason...) I tried to find a way to message you through your website & related links, but couldn't find one. Thanks in advance for the help - it is much appreciated!
Never heard of a Beta, is that the make ?
Can you tell something about the traction control ? I want to know if the throtle is still abrupt withe the mildest setting. Can ABS be instaled ? Do you know if the piston has 3 rings , as Honda CRF450L has ?
I’d own a beta if there was a beta dealer within 150 miles of me.
Great Great Vid!
I'm just starting to motovlog and i would like to know what frame rate you shoot in. Also do you shoot video in 4k then upload to 1080 or just shoot in 1080 and upload in 1080. Thanks again for any information and please keep you epic videos coming.
@ 1:34 abandoned golf corse
What's the valve clearance and oil change schedule for the Beta 500 RR-S?
How do I get the stickers for my dualsport?
I don't want to distract from the video (which turned out really great, btw. this Beta sounds seriously awesome from the way you describe it), but I just wanted to make the humble request that you do a video on the Kawasaki Super Sherpa if you get the opportunity. I've been without a dual sport for a few years and I want to get another one, and I've narrowed it down to the XR400, the Super Sherpa, and the XT225/XT250. You're the source I trust the most on these things, so I'd really like to know what you think of the Sherpa.
What did you think of it compared to the 690/701?
5:41 he dropped something ...
How bout the Honda CRF250L? More people can afford it.
From personal experience, too heavy and underpowered for its weight, nice on the street and suspension sucks on serious offroad situations. But it can be a good small adventure bike, still a honda and a reliable single cylinder motor.
After 4yrs i sold it and bought a beta Alp200, totally different type but way more lighter , more ground clearance and lower seat, less power but not that bad for its weight.
Please tell me where you got that skid plate?
Some one lost somthing at 5:41 looked like a phone or something
The thing about motorcycle videos is that they are all about the motorcycle(s), not the SHITTY/annoying music. Thanx.
I'm in st George......now
Soundgarden or solo Chris Cornell?
How do they get the weight down that low
me and my dad ride these those's dirt bikes but it is almost time for Christnas and i think my big gift is a dirt bike i really want one and i have one but it is like a small tiny one ever time me and my sister we go on our dirt around the block almost ever day but we stoped for a while becuase of the karens and they think it is to much noise my sisters dirt bike breaks almost all the time and i ride with my dad on the dirt bike and we go on trails it is very fun and i hope i get a real dirt bike like my dad's and my dad wants a new dirt bike to so all of use want new dirt bike i got to say their are not cheap me and my dad look at the dirt bike's when we go to the dirt bike shop we look at the miny ones to mostly the big ones.
Beta 500 is a nice DIRT BIKE. Its not a dual sport just cause it comes plated!
What band and song is playing on the video?
Garrett, as in Pat Garrett is more like it. Remember this: HE is the one that shot Billy the Kid in the BACK = NOT TO BE TRUSTED! As the legend goes, he'll surely stab you too if he can get some SWAG out of it!
Like then watch the video
xt 250 or xt 660 r i want it light in the woods but i want it fast on the highway. A2 compliant being a swede, any suggestion helps
Buy one for each duty, anything else is a compromise
XT 660 if you only can buy one. If you have money, buy the KTM 690 R.
What do you mean by "regear"? Pull apart the trans and put a new set of gears in with different ratios? Does anybody actually do that? I must be missing something. Fly down the highway at 80mph, stop by the side of the road and pull your trans apart, then hit the dirt!
You change the drive sprockets to ones with more or less teeth affect the gearing. This can require getting a longer chain or removing links from your stock chain.
@@MarylandWearAndCarry ..... ok, still not something you do on the fly. I'm familiar with sprocket changes, but would be suprised if that made the huge difference Tyler described.
@@paulschonschack3051 I definitely makes a huge difference but it takes some wrenching and you have to carry a spare sprocket.