i see that ur question was a week ago but if you haven't got an answer or figured something out already thrawst's PLL vid has a very good explaination of the G perms, it helped me a lot :)
In the R permutation the headlights are extended by a 2 block on one of the adjacent sides. The G permuation has eitehr a 2 block that is not connected to the headlights or no 2 block at all on the adjacent sides. @Badmephisto: Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you forgot about the U perm during the headlights part and about the 3-edge cycle during the 3-block part. =|
bloopers were funny and the video was very helpfull oh and i learn how to do the rubiks cube from a different person but after that u are the person with all this videos helping me out and i just keep lowering my times thxs badmephisto
Hi badmephisto your video was posted on speedsolving and i like it a lot! Very good for beginners in cubing! The E-perm is easy to distinguish when you look an edge than you look at the corner color! Because The H and Z have head lights the E hasn't got them! and also the execution is just by looking at the edge an the corner colors!
hi, i commented about a month ago about the iphone app idea and i've just noticed you have one on your website. was that from my suggestion or was it already there or neither? thanks for you vids again, i now know all the PLLs and am finding it easier recognising them :)
For E perm, you can see that the "chameleon eyes" respective to each edge are of equal or opposite colour to that edge. You can then adjust U face so that the F face has chameleon eyes (on the L and R faces) of opposite colour to the F-face edge, and then execute the alg.
Thanks a lot man! I have been getting good times on 2 L OLL and 2 L PLL so now it's time to start with full PLL. But man, I had no clue what to look for. I was litterally looking for five minutes at my cube and then on the PLL sheets.. And still I did not find what I was looking for. LOL. This helps soooo much.
Great video, it's just what I was looking for. About E,F,N,J and some others PLL I've already used this methods, but it helps me with V and the lasting PLL. Anyway I use another method for the G. I think it's faster..but your tutorial it's great, Thanks!
If I may suggest, why don't you either post a video or a section on your site including some PLL recognition exercises. Like, "which features does this PLL contain?" and "In the ___ PLL, what features exist?"
To tell apart the clockwise and counterclockwise edge cycles, look at the UR edge. If it's the color opposite the ones around it, counterclockwise. If not, clockwise.
@IsawACDClive Depends on style. I almost always do F with right index finger, and F' with left index finger. I used to do F' with my right thumb, but after watching a guy do Y permutation in 1.05 second using left index for the F' 's, I switched immediately :)
The last case I wanna talk about is the two pair. We have already ran into it with the j perm, oh wait... g perm *does it again and fails like 3 times...
oh and for anybody reading this i would highly recommend buyin this dudes app off the app store, just search bad mephisto, its basically an app with every fridrich method algorithm for the oll's pll's and 2 look, more than worth the 69p, thank you bad mephisto!!
Depends on the angle. And also there are two different kinds of G perms: the ones where the block is next to the headlights (Ga and Gc), and the ones where the block is opposite the headlights (Gb and Gd). For sake of clarity, I'll call Ga and Gc the "adjacent G perms", and I'll call Gb and Gd the "opposite G perms". Also I'll be throwing in A perms and T perm because they're the ones meant to be learned at roughly the same time as R and G perms when learning 2-side recognition. With that out of the way, let's go. If you see headlights and a CONNECTED block, you've either got T perm or R perm. If the color between the headlights is opposite (or if the two remaining stickers are the same) then you have T perm, otherwise it's R perm. If you can see headlights and a DISCONNECTED block, you've either got one of the A perms or one of the adjacent G perms. To tell the two apart: look for a checker pattern in the headlights. The A perms have one but the adjacent G perms don't from that angle. If you see a giant 2x2 block in the middle, you either have A perm or V perm, and to check you have to look at the colors of the stickers at the ends. If they're the same, it's an A perm (and the headlights will be opposite the opposite corner), but if they're different it's a V perm. If you can see the headlights, and it looks like an H perm for 5 stickers in a row EXCEPT FOR THAT LAST ONE, you've got an opposite G perm. The position of the block will be opposite the headlights and pointing away from you. If you see headlights and it looks like it alternates colors for 5 out of the 6 stickers, check where the odd sticker out is. If it's on the far corner, you have an R perm and the block is on the other side of the checker. If it's in the middle however, you have an opposite G perm. This time the block is opposite the headlights and pointing toward you. If you have a length 4 checker pattern on the side and nothing else, you have an adjacent G perm, and the block is on the other side of the checker. This is where it starts to get tricky. If you have just one 2x1 block on the INSIDE you either have a G perm or a Y perm. Y perm won't have book-ends (where the stickers on the far sides are the same) so if there are book-ends you can rule Y perm out. The 2x1 block on the inside will be trapping one sticker on the very side, and if it's adjacent you have an adjacent G perm, and if it' s opposite it's an opposite G perm. If you see a block on the OUTSIDE however, and there's nothing else, you have several options. To tell these apart, check the sticker next to the outer block, and check the sticker on the edge next to that corner you checked. If the block were on the first two stickers from the left, for examples, you want to check the 3rd and 5th stickers from the left. And vice versa. If they're opposite it's a T perm. If they're adjacent it's an A perm. If it's the same: check for book-ends. If there are no book-ends, it's V perm. If there are, compare the color of the stickers you were checking before, and compare it to the color of the block. If they're adjacent, it's R perm. If it's opposite, it's an opposite G perm. If you do see a pair of headlights but no checkers or blocks, you have an A perm. The 2x2 block is always on the sides you can't see. That leaves the last case scenario for these PLL cases: bookends and nothing else. I personally recommend just going for 3 sides when you see that, but here we go anyway. There will be just 1 color that repeats in between the book-ends. If the repeated color is adjacent to the book-ends, it's R perm, and the headlights are opposite the repeating colors. If it's opposite to the book-ends, it's an adjacent G perm, and the headlights are adjacent to the repeating colors. This is way better explained with an image or a video rather than in pure text, so please do look up a tutorial for 2-side recognition. I can only give so much advice in text format.
look its all to do with the yellow square on the top layer(2x2 square) on the top right corner of the LL. whenevr u do an R or R' the square muat be a square. i woundnt think u would have understood but i ll try to make a vid and show u.
@speedstackingmanduh Yeh, because it's much more fun seeing progress immediately, if using beginner last layer, rather than spending hours memorizing the shit, and then spending even more hours, LOTS more hours, practicing every algorithm and recognization.
@providief hehe yea i searched back in comments history, it was you! thanks, i guess :) Right after I read it I thought it was great idea... I started the development that same day :) thanks! :p
the way i reconize the e perm is that i look for the nothing but then there is also the 2 opposite diagonal corners being solved if you see that you can just do the e perm and it will be solved if you don't see it just do a U or U' and do the alg
thanks so much for these videos, they are a real help. i had an idea that you should make a badmephisto algorithm app for the iphone. i'd buy it (if i had an iphone..) you'd be rich :)
well there is one way to recognize an E perm, when you have 2 diagonal corners solved. Thats about it though, gahh I hate E!! (recognition and the algo itself) :( P.S. yay for bloopers!
@badmephisto you deserve to make some money from all the effort you put into your site and vids, i hope people buy the app. maybe you can credit me one day ;)
Super helpful 7 years later! Great video, it is amazing!
to this day this is the channel i send friends learning to speedcube to, its great to get sub 20 from
i see that ur question was a week ago but if you haven't got an answer or figured something out already thrawst's PLL vid has a very good explaination of the G perms, it helped me a lot :)
Hey badmephisto,. Pls add some new videos... U r really amazing....
Wow! This is a ton of help!! I never would have thought of it this way... Thanks a lot!
lol i love the bloopers on your vids, e permutation is easily recognised because all edges are in correct realtive position! ::) thnx for the vid
mate, you are a wizard, you should get an emmy or a hug or something, squaring me right away with these videos, thanks from england!!!!!
In the R permutation the headlights are extended by a 2 block on one of the adjacent sides. The G permuation has eitehr a 2 block that is not connected to the headlights or no 2 block at all on the adjacent sides.
@Badmephisto: Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you forgot about the U perm during the headlights part and about the 3-edge cycle during the 3-block part. =|
bloopers were funny and the video was very helpfull oh and i learn how to do the rubiks cube from a different person but after that u are the person with all this videos helping me out and i just keep lowering my times thxs badmephisto
hey nice vid. do u have any tips to remember which algorithm matches up with the particular PLL. (especially for the G perms)?
Hi badmephisto your video was posted on speedsolving and i like it a lot!
Very good for beginners in cubing! The E-perm is easy to distinguish when you look an edge than you look at the corner color! Because The H and Z have head lights the E hasn't got them! and also the execution is just by looking at the edge an the corner colors!
hi, i commented about a month ago about the iphone app idea and i've just noticed you have one on your website. was that from my suggestion or was it already there or neither? thanks for you vids again, i now know all the PLLs and am finding it easier recognising them :)
12 years ago but still best tutorial, thanks m8
For E perm, you can see that the "chameleon eyes" respective to each edge are of equal or opposite colour to that edge. You can then adjust U face so that the F face has chameleon eyes (on the L and R faces) of opposite colour to the F-face edge, and then execute the alg.
A ridiculously useful video. Thank you!
Thanks a lot man! I have been getting good times on 2 L OLL and 2 L PLL so now it's time to start with full PLL. But man, I had no clue what to look for. I was litterally looking for five minutes at my cube and then on the PLL sheets.. And still I did not find what I was looking for. LOL. This helps soooo much.
I love all of your videos! they are so helpful
Hey I need some help on the N Perms. Is there any faster algo for it? It's awfully long.
Great video man....awesome.....most helpful... Thank you very much
Great video, it's just what I was looking for. About E,F,N,J and some others PLL I've already used this methods, but it helps me with V and the lasting PLL.
Anyway I use another method for the G. I think it's faster..but your tutorial it's great, Thanks!
If I may suggest, why don't you either post a video or a section on your site including some PLL recognition exercises. Like, "which features does this PLL contain?" and "In the ___ PLL, what features exist?"
Holy crap this was so incredibly insightful. Thank you so much!
where'd you get those KIND of cubes?and there are so many that you own...
the Uperm doesnt have headlights, and the 3edge cycle (which IS the Uperm) doesnt have a 3block either...
To tell apart the clockwise and counterclockwise edge cycles, look at the UR edge. If it's the color opposite the ones around it, counterclockwise. If not, clockwise.
right. but you cant see both diagonal corners at the same time easily.
E perm sucks :(
@merrygoround6707 Or you just think that if you can't recognize the case then its an E perm.
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Do you adlib these videos or do you practice then film? and could plz start making videos again your a beast
I need help recognizing which N perm to do.
@IsawACDClive
Depends on style. I almost always do F with right index finger, and F' with left index finger. I used to do F' with my right thumb, but after watching a guy do Y permutation in 1.05 second using left index for the F' 's, I switched immediately :)
Is there a way to remember the G perms ????
9:00 it does have a feature, the corners are always opposites
hi...can u pls show me hw u made ur iphone appp????? m trying to make a app but i dunno hw? pls help me
@providief Yea someone commented and that's what gave me the idea. Maybe it was you, hah :)
the g perm has a way of memorising actually,
after practice it will be in your fingers
do diy cubes make a big difference with ur times. roght now i have a 33s avrg with a rugular lubed rubix branned
The last case I wanna talk about is the two pair. We have already ran into it with the j perm, oh wait... g perm
*does it again and fails like 3 times...
What state do you live in
sorry could you tell me your website name?
This is really helpful!!
But on your site, the perms have different variations, e.g G(a), G(b) etc
@skatercuber4life Um. I was joking that he says no one knows he cubes . . . like he's cubophobic. Still don't get it?
oh and for anybody reading this i would highly recommend buyin this dudes app off the app store, just search bad mephisto, its basically an app with every fridrich method algorithm for the oll's pll's and 2 look, more than worth the 69p, thank you bad mephisto!!
how do you recognize R from G from just 2 sides
Depends on the angle. And also there are two different kinds of G perms: the ones where the block is next to the headlights (Ga and Gc), and the ones where the block is opposite the headlights (Gb and Gd). For sake of clarity, I'll call Ga and Gc the "adjacent G perms", and I'll call Gb and Gd the "opposite G perms".
Also I'll be throwing in A perms and T perm because they're the ones meant to be learned at roughly the same time as R and G perms when learning 2-side recognition.
With that out of the way, let's go.
If you see headlights and a CONNECTED block, you've either got T perm or R perm. If the color between the headlights is opposite (or if the two remaining stickers are the same) then you have T perm, otherwise it's R perm.
If you can see headlights and a DISCONNECTED block, you've either got one of the A perms or one of the adjacent G perms. To tell the two apart: look for a checker pattern in the headlights. The A perms have one but the adjacent G perms don't from that angle.
If you see a giant 2x2 block in the middle, you either have A perm or V perm, and to check you have to look at the colors of the stickers at the ends. If they're the same, it's an A perm (and the headlights will be opposite the opposite corner), but if they're different it's a V perm.
If you can see the headlights, and it looks like an H perm for 5 stickers in a row EXCEPT FOR THAT LAST ONE, you've got an opposite G perm. The position of the block will be opposite the headlights and pointing away from you.
If you see headlights and it looks like it alternates colors for 5 out of the 6 stickers, check where the odd sticker out is. If it's on the far corner, you have an R perm and the block is on the other side of the checker. If it's in the middle however, you have an opposite G perm. This time the block is opposite the headlights and pointing toward you.
If you have a length 4 checker pattern on the side and nothing else, you have an adjacent G perm, and the block is on the other side of the checker.
This is where it starts to get tricky. If you have just one 2x1 block on the INSIDE you either have a G perm or a Y perm. Y perm won't have book-ends (where the stickers on the far sides are the same) so if there are book-ends you can rule Y perm out.
The 2x1 block on the inside will be trapping one sticker on the very side, and if it's adjacent you have an adjacent G perm, and if it' s opposite it's an opposite G perm.
If you see a block on the OUTSIDE however, and there's nothing else, you have several options. To tell these apart, check the sticker next to the outer block, and check the sticker on the edge next to that corner you checked. If the block were on the first two stickers from the left, for examples, you want to check the 3rd and 5th stickers from the left. And vice versa.
If they're opposite it's a T perm. If they're adjacent it's an A perm. If it's the same: check for book-ends. If there are no book-ends, it's V perm. If there are, compare the color of the stickers you were checking before, and compare it to the color of the block. If they're adjacent, it's R perm. If it's opposite, it's an opposite G perm.
If you do see a pair of headlights but no checkers or blocks, you have an A perm. The 2x2 block is always on the sides you can't see.
That leaves the last case scenario for these PLL cases: bookends and nothing else. I personally recommend just going for 3 sides when you see that, but here we go anyway.
There will be just 1 color that repeats in between the book-ends. If the repeated color is adjacent to the book-ends, it's R perm, and the headlights are opposite the repeating colors. If it's opposite to the book-ends, it's an adjacent G perm, and the headlights are adjacent to the repeating colors.
This is way better explained with an image or a video rather than in pure text, so please do look up a tutorial for 2-side recognition. I can only give so much advice in text format.
Roughly 21 cases?
How many rubies cubes do you have???
look its all to do with the yellow square on the top layer(2x2 square) on the top right corner of the LL.
whenevr u do an R or R' the square muat be a square.
i woundnt think u would have understood but i ll try to make a vid and show u.
Great video for PLL recognition. Funny bloopers too! ^_^ Thanks meph!
hey badmephisto, thx for he video and i really, really, really love your oll-pdfs!^^
Thanks, watching in 2020. if you are still using this channel badmephisto, thanks man
hmmm... maybe
another great video!
thanks for the help.
@speedstackingmanduh
Yeh, because it's much more fun seeing progress immediately, if using beginner last layer, rather than spending hours memorizing the shit, and then spending even more hours, LOTS more hours, practicing every algorithm and recognization.
@providief hehe yea i searched back in comments history, it was you! thanks, i guess :) Right after I read it I thought it was great idea... I started the development that same day :) thanks! :p
great stuff
the way i reconize the e perm is that i look for the nothing but then there is also the 2 opposite diagonal corners being solved if you see that you can just do the e perm and it will be solved if you don't see it just do a U or U' and do the alg
i was just about to post a tutorial on this.
darn
try magnetic cube pls
badmephisto u still active?
what do L,M,D,X AND Y signify?????
@IsawACDClive
/watch?v=hPdXn0MFtTc
There you go', in related videos you can see how he executes it slow.
U make very good videos but plz change the title cause i don't know wat's the next part
Very useful, thanks.
Thank you badmephisto!
yeah lol i commented on it 2 days ago...!!
its a great vid, thanks dude!
@badmephisto yeah that was me! it looks good, i may have to buy an iphone 4 now. good luck with it :)
@providief ahaha that's actually exactly why I didn't reply the first time! A scenario like that went through my head :P. NO! GO AWAY!!! lol
wats y prime? offtopic :P
nope, never. vast majority of my real life friends don't know I'm on youtube, or that I can even solve the cube
thanks so much for these videos, they are a real help. i had an idea that you should make a badmephisto algorithm app for the iphone. i'd buy it (if i had an iphone..) you'd be rich :)
at 9:30 there are headlights everywhere
:D "...It's definitely AN N AND if you see TWO TWO pairs.." Funny :D
*Is one of those comments I'm gonna make*
Gotta love the bloopers; I wouldn't mind if you messed up on purpose every once in awhile ;)
Lol G J permutation 10:30 LOL
well there is one way to recognize an E perm, when you have 2 diagonal corners solved. Thats about it though, gahh I hate E!! (recognition and the algo itself) :(
P.S. yay for bloopers!
heh yes i got that :)
and thanks, glad to hear it
THNX MEAN UR THE BEST !
please do....=)
@badmephisto you deserve to make some money from all the effort you put into your site and vids, i hope people buy the app. maybe you can credit me one day ;)
Did I just say "J" again? LOL!
Ho watch this in 2021? SO OLD
THANKS!!!!
Thanks it helped a lot
k thanx
YAY!!!!!!
this vid. rockz O.o ty
I just need to learn N perm ......
Canada I found out already thanks for answering:/
yeah me too , i hate n perms
@badmephisto no problem, i am quite pleased you liked the idea. i want %10. jk :D
Now they are easy, its just problem memorising them :D
OLL & PLL on Fridrich are F***** Hard to understand and memorize
thanks:)
hooray!
But thank you
i can solve it in 41 secs! with 2 look oll and 2 look pll
j ferm
lol blooper.
not hard at all ....
it was just a joke sheesh
You're a closet cuber. I'm worried dude. That's not healthy.