I've never even seen Moriette or Woodfall Primus. This show always has the best guests and shows off such cool and obscure decks, by far my favorite commander show. GG's
How do I convince Lynch to play a Savra, Queen of the Golgari deck? I feel like he'd love the hell out of it given how much he loves playing black and doing graveyard shenanigans.
just incase no one else said it, and i understand how chaotic these games can get btw, but moritte is a "as enter's the battlefield effect" not an etb, meaning it would of come into play as the chosen permanent, even if it was destroyed
I can not understand how Larry does not get ganged up on EVERY game. My play group tends to target me alot due to some interaction I run in decks yet he gets to play the game and win 99 pct of the time lol.
Am I misreading lava tounge? I don’t think they get an option to take the damage instead of discarding or sac a permanent. Since the ability says that his opponent have to discard or sac a permanent (period) then any opponent who did neither takes the damage
wait. Wouldn't larry still have gotten a mind's dilation? Moritte is an enters as a copy effect so it doesn't use the stack. Unless it's on Larry for not waiting for priority and should have cast his commander and asked for responses, then when Moritte enters it's a mind's dilation so destroying the original wouldn't do anything unless it was destroyed while Moritte was on the stack before a it entered and picked a permanent
I feel like +1 counters shouldn’t cancel out -1 counters. like 2 +1 and a -1 is still a net gain of +1 but I think the -1 should still be there. I understand wotc doesn’t do it that way because it would be very confusing to keep track of but it’s not any more confusing than the rest of the game. For instance if I have a card that gives a flying counter to a creature(such as cycling avian odyssey) and then I equip colossus hammer to that creature , if it worked the same way as +1/-1 counters you would think it might lose the flying counter but it actually still retains the flying counter, it just loses the flying ability as a “replacement effect” but the counter itself is still there. Commander is convoluted for no reason other than wotc doesn’t want to actually have to sit down and make a balanced game.
I have a super dumb MTG question..why doesn’t damage go through to the defending player if you block with a creature and then in response to something mid-combat sacrifice it? Wouldn’t the stack mean the sacrifice happens prior to damage meaning when damage would be assigned the blocking creature is already gone? Like, in other instances with layered counterspells if the stack resolving eliminates a target for a spell, it fizzles. So, removing a blocker should work the same way…right?
Not quite like that. Once a creature has been declared as blocking an attacker that block will absorb all the damage UNLESS that creature has/gains trample prior to damage. You'd want to clear out potential blockers before they are declared; Akroma's Will for instance should be cast before blockers are declared if the goal is to alpha strike.
Being blocked is basically a "state" something can have, and it's applied as soon as blocks are declared. After a creature has been blocked, it doesn't matter if the creature goes away - the attacker was still blocked and, unless the attacker has trample, will attempt to deal its damage to anything blocking it. In a way, you could consider it to be that you're fizzling the damage - the blocking creature became the "target" for that damage, and once the creature is gone the damage just goes poof. This is actually a pretty common way of turning chump blocks into value in sacrifice-heavy decks. Sacrificing a chump blocker to fuel something like Village Rites both blanks the attack and profits off the death. For extra fun, there's an old and bad card from OG Kamigawa called Curtain of Light. It says "Target attacking unblocked creature becomes blocked. Draw a card." Imagine the value!
No dumb questions btw. Magic is a very complex game and they're only adding more complexity with each release nowadays, and Commander is arguably the highest mental load format there is.
Naive question... Since woodfall primus ability "destroy target noncreature permanent" is not a may, would Larry have to end up destroying blasting station?
Not naive at all, the combo relies on ordering triggers onto the stack and maintaining priority once all the triggers except "destroy target non creature permanent " have resolved. You continue executing the loop while never actually resolving any of the "destroy" triggers. It works a bit like isochron Scepter + dramatic Reversal + sol ring + sensei's divining top; where you activate the top to draw a card, hold priority and activate Scepter, let Scepter resolve untapping all non lands, hold priority and activate top again (giving you 2 draw triggers now on the stack) . You never resolve any of the draw triggers until you have enough on the stack to draw your whole library.
No since he does everything on the stack, targeting allways the same land to get blown up in the end he keeps his stuff and pings everybody with blasting station. So in response of the trigger he sacs morite again, what puts the new etb triggers and untapping blasting station on top of the old trigger of blowing up a land. That way everybody else dies and he wins before the first land is blown up actually...
Just got a notification if I am doing something against the community lines. I hope I wasn't rude explaining... My English isn't the best,... But my explanation for someone to read that doesn't play magic 😂😂😂
No they covered that if he targets the same land each time and responds to his own trigger of targeting said land by activating blasting station to sac again his saccing the copy (his commander) would never allow it to trigger and destroy the permanent as it and its trigger would not exist on the bf by then.
Doesnt Zoyowa only give u the option to choose to discard or sacrifice a permanente (U have u choose one). And if u cant discard (u picked discard) or cant sacrifice a permanente (u picked sac) . THEN U LOOSE 3 life as a consequence , the pay 3 life isnt a choice.
is there a reason they didnt take commander damage from lynch's commander? it says he deals the damage so all the 3 pings shouldve been commander damage
Am I mistaken, or, once General's Kabuto was equipped, that creature should no longer have been able to attach other equipments (including by way of using the creature's own ability)?
nah the kabuto says it cant be the target of spells or abilitys and balen doesn't target. if balen said attach all equipment to target creature then you would be correct.
If someone is holding a rift, or a wipe, and you offer not to attack them, thats a dumb play. You attack that player hard and make them use it. Having them sit there for a turn cycle and still have a threat in hand is not doing anything.
Countering the Cyclonic Rift was such a bad play by Ray. It was cool, but bad. Same with Lynch and the Trickery countering the Wrath. The Wrath would have helped-ish.
Lighting brotha - I feel like when its pointing to the right its bright then the left is darker and the OVER head is so " HIGH CONTRAST - lower the contrast; even out the studio lighting; and ya dont need to go so high on the "Saturation" the color grading doesnt make it look to good to be honest; it sjust constructive critisim.
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Never miss a Larry episode.
How could you with that mustache
I've never even seen Moriette or Woodfall Primus. This show always has the best guests and shows off such cool and obscure decks, by far my favorite commander show. GG's
Cheers brother, glad you enjoyed!
"Kill Larry, world peace" bomb t shirt right there 😂
Larry I love when you get to join the show the decks you bring are very unique and off the wall. Great game.
Didn’t knew Freddy Mercury played commander! Awesome!!
What a good group. These are some of my favorite guys that have been on the show.
Wow, this episode was a blast, more precisely it was a Red Elemental Blast!!! 😮
16:54
such a great surprise hahahaha
Ray is Patrick from SpongeBob: He's just passing his turn MENACINGLY!! lol
Larry is too damn cool man
I don't comment on pretty much ever, but your hosting vibe and overall content makes this the best EDH content on youtube.
LARRY, GUYS LARRY IS HERE
How do I convince Lynch to play a Savra, Queen of the Golgari deck? I feel like he'd love the hell out of it given how much he loves playing black and doing graveyard shenanigans.
If there's one thing I've learned from The Villainous Killstache episodes it's you always kill The Villainous Killstache first.
Great job going into detail in that BRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Loved all the guests, felt like everyone did something very ~typical~ for their character but really fun :):)
I was literally yelling, "No, you should have discarded the Blasting Station with Grief". Omg. 😂
Fantastic game! Larry came in won like the legend he is
Lynch representing with the Santa riding a dragon sleeves!!! I use them too!
Larry the Daddy A.K.A. Freddy Mercury cooking everyone again, love it.
Dude im sooo running red elemental blast in my red decks from now on, that play was GOLD XD
Larry is deff a personal favorite MTG online personality/human! Deff need a "Kill Larry, world peace" shirt y'all. lols
❤ I love seeing uncommon commanders shine!! Always great content 🔥❤️
Larry is a ticking timebomb every. single. game. Love it
Larry is the 🐐
lynch entire closet must be nothin but tool shirts lol 😂😂
Great game as always. My favorite MTG channel❤
Im here for the 🔧 👕.....and Scary Larry
just incase no one else said it, and i understand how chaotic these games can get btw, but moritte is a "as enter's the battlefield effect" not an etb, meaning it would of come into play as the chosen permanent, even if it was destroyed
I love the show guys. Decklists in the future?
Larry always blasts the wombo combos
When I saw the Blasting Station in Larrys hand. I knew that's when they F'D UP!! 😂 Team Larry!
36:11 he can not ping the planeswalker....
Come on now guys, we all know that the Modern Horizons Snow Covered Island is Marit Lage’s Tentacle…course, some people may still be into that 😂
I can not understand how Larry does not get ganged up on EVERY game. My play group tends to target me alot due to some interaction I run in decks yet he gets to play the game and win 99 pct of the time lol.
Wouldn't Razaketh card search count as a stack piece? I thought the stack would have to resolve before Lynch could cast the card he searched for?
That was a nice W Larry!
Great game! I love the ending
15:25 in my playgroup it is a plug...
Another game, another day everyone doesn't kill Larry in time
Damn it Ray you will win eventually !
Does he have a link to his zoyowa deck?
Am I misreading lava tounge? I don’t think they get an option to take the damage instead of discarding or sac a permanent. Since the ability says that his opponent have to discard or sac a permanent (period) then any opponent who did neither takes the damage
It says they "may" discard or sac.
wait. Wouldn't larry still have gotten a mind's dilation? Moritte is an enters as a copy effect so it doesn't use the stack. Unless it's on Larry for not waiting for priority and should have cast his commander and asked for responses, then when Moritte enters it's a mind's dilation so destroying the original wouldn't do anything unless it was destroyed while Moritte was on the stack before a it entered and picked a permanent
Larry is so goated also I want to see somebody play Alela Cunning Conqueror.
Larry… uh… finds a way.
I feel like +1 counters shouldn’t cancel out -1 counters. like 2 +1 and a -1 is still a net gain of +1 but I think the -1 should still be there. I understand wotc doesn’t do it that way because it would be very confusing to keep track of but it’s not any more confusing than the rest of the game. For instance if I have a card that gives a flying counter to a creature(such as cycling avian odyssey) and then I equip colossus hammer to that creature , if it worked the same way as +1/-1 counters you would think it might lose the flying counter but it actually still retains the flying counter, it just loses the flying ability as a “replacement effect” but the counter itself is still there. Commander is convoluted for no reason other than wotc doesn’t want to actually have to sit down and make a balanced game.
Cookie duster & Ray Mr. Food tokens in the same episode on a Friday!! Let's goooooo 🎉🎉🎉
I have a super dumb MTG question..why doesn’t damage go through to the defending player if you block with a creature and then in response to something mid-combat sacrifice it? Wouldn’t the stack mean the sacrifice happens prior to damage meaning when damage would be assigned the blocking creature is already gone? Like, in other instances with layered counterspells if the stack resolving eliminates a target for a spell, it fizzles. So, removing a blocker should work the same way…right?
Not quite like that. Once a creature has been declared as blocking an attacker that block will absorb all the damage UNLESS that creature has/gains trample prior to damage. You'd want to clear out potential blockers before they are declared; Akroma's Will for instance should be cast before blockers are declared if the goal is to alpha strike.
Being blocked is basically a "state" something can have, and it's applied as soon as blocks are declared. After a creature has been blocked, it doesn't matter if the creature goes away - the attacker was still blocked and, unless the attacker has trample, will attempt to deal its damage to anything blocking it. In a way, you could consider it to be that you're fizzling the damage - the blocking creature became the "target" for that damage, and once the creature is gone the damage just goes poof.
This is actually a pretty common way of turning chump blocks into value in sacrifice-heavy decks. Sacrificing a chump blocker to fuel something like Village Rites both blanks the attack and profits off the death.
For extra fun, there's an old and bad card from OG Kamigawa called Curtain of Light. It says "Target attacking unblocked creature becomes blocked. Draw a card." Imagine the value!
No dumb questions btw. Magic is a very complex game and they're only adding more complexity with each release nowadays, and Commander is arguably the highest mental load format there is.
Nice loop!
Naive question... Since woodfall primus ability "destroy target noncreature permanent" is not a may, would Larry have to end up destroying blasting station?
Not naive at all, the combo relies on ordering triggers onto the stack and maintaining priority once all the triggers except "destroy target non creature permanent " have resolved. You continue executing the loop while never actually resolving any of the "destroy" triggers. It works a bit like isochron Scepter + dramatic Reversal + sol ring + sensei's divining top; where you activate the top to draw a card, hold priority and activate Scepter, let Scepter resolve untapping all non lands, hold priority and activate top again (giving you 2 draw triggers now on the stack) . You never resolve any of the draw triggers until you have enough on the stack to draw your whole library.
No since he does everything on the stack, targeting allways the same land to get blown up in the end he keeps his stuff and pings everybody with blasting station.
So in response of the trigger he sacs morite again, what puts the new etb triggers and untapping blasting station on top of the old trigger of blowing up a land. That way everybody else dies and he wins before the first land is blown up actually...
Just got a notification if I am doing something against the community lines. I hope I wasn't rude explaining... My English isn't the best,... But my explanation for someone to read that doesn't play magic 😂😂😂
Maybe look up some explanation for the stack later, it might explain more than me. 🤔
No they covered that if he targets the same land each time and responds to his own trigger of targeting said land by activating blasting station to sac again his saccing the copy (his commander) would never allow it to trigger and destroy the permanent as it and its trigger would not exist on the bf by then.
Larry casting cyclonic rift confused me, as grief still ETB'd so his ability would still resolve where Larry would reveal and have to discard
Lol Another episode down....and no win for Ray. Sadness on the stack. Great episode though.
Great episode!
I just finish my zoyowa Deck for 80$. Very easy to trigger the descend effect and it can be a 5 to 7 damage every time it triggers 😂 very very fun.
I don’t know why but I guess he would blow up a treasure lol 41:09
Hey guys do you have a deck list for this game
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The best way to refer to the partner commanders would be Jenny and Vastra
I feel Lynch is always the aggro but in an asshole way.
Scary Larry!
Scary Larry
What kinda d-bag do you have to be to put an infinite combo in your EDH deck?
Is it just me or does Larry look like Freddy Mercury?
Larry chose the copy as mind's dilation, so Morrie would have came in as nothing since Larry chose the enchantment as a target and not as the baloth
Doesnt Zoyowa only give u the option to choose to discard or sacrifice a permanente (U have u choose one). And if u cant discard (u picked discard) or cant sacrifice a permanente (u picked sac) . THEN U LOOSE 3 life as a consequence , the pay 3 life isnt a choice.
I know I don't have a patreon but damn I wish I could play with Larry and lynch
No one ever learns to go at Larry from the first draw
even if you red elemental Larrys rift he managed to beat everyone, hes a master
Ill sell some spare acadamy manufacturors to ray if need b xD i have mayb 3 extras
Ive been looking for zoyowa gameplay for over 2 weeks now. B l e s s
Damn and here I thought I was going to watch ray win a game lol
I didn't know freddy Mercury played commander.
I don’t think mirette of the frost can copy that thing entering, although it could have copied minds dilation
I love larry. but I have to watch Ray because I refuse to miss his win. Go team Ray!
is there a reason they didnt take commander damage from lynch's commander? it says he deals the damage so all the 3 pings shouldve been commander damage
If I'm not wrong commander damage it's only counted on combat damage
commander damage is combat damage only
Commander damage is for combat damage only.
commander dmg is only through combat, turn him sideways.
Commander damage only applies to combat damage by that specific commander.
kinda want RAY to win yo! he plays solid and faithful to his themes. #RESPECT
I felt bad for Larry at first. Then he counter spelled my pity
great game!
Ray should've attacked Ray and not lynch to force out that rift.
When are they going to learn to kill Larry first lol
Am I mistaken, or, once General's Kabuto was equipped, that creature should no longer have been able to attach other equipments (including by way of using the creature's own ability)?
Balan's ability doesn't target, so it goes around shroud
nah the kabuto says it cant be the target of spells or abilitys and balen doesn't target. if balen said attach all equipment to target creature then you would be correct.
LARRY LARRY LARRY!!!
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God dammit… I saw Larry.
If someone is holding a rift, or a wipe, and you offer not to attack them, thats a dumb play. You attack that player hard and make them use it. Having them sit there for a turn cycle and still have a threat in hand is not doing anything.
I can be a funny salty player. Have you hosted a prismatic bridge player yet?
Larry episode ftw
MORE LARRY :)
i See larry i like and watch
Zowala, Lava Tongue.. sure Lynch
The counter of cyclonic rift was dumb…
Countering the Cyclonic Rift was such a bad play by Ray. It was cool, but bad. Same with Lynch and the Trickery countering the Wrath. The Wrath would have helped-ish.
Lighting brotha - I feel like when its pointing to the right its bright then the left is darker and the OVER head is so " HIGH CONTRAST - lower the contrast; even out the studio lighting; and ya dont need to go so high on the "Saturation" the color grading doesnt make it look to good to be honest; it sjust constructive critisim.
Thanks for the feedback. We strive to be better all the time. Def make mistakes on the way. But we are working to be better for sure. Cheers and thanks.
I cant be the only one to notice that Neoform is a sorcery (prbly just to avoid this pretty creative blocking and upgrading move by Larry), can I!?
Is he gonna cheat again lol jk scary larry
I Love To Hate These Decks ^^
On my mama’s kids Larry’s the truth
KLWP
Is it just me, or are the colors of the video a bit off?
With my very limited knowledge of video editing, my guess is that (except for Lynch and Larrys camera) the saturation is a bit high.