MultiVersus: OFFICIAL Season 2 Tier List! (UPDATED)

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  • @larkinpritchard5104
    @larkinpritchard5104 2 місяці тому +18

    The only character I think should be moved is Marvin. He should be bottom of somewhere in between tier. A good Marvin can make the game impossible to play, however a bad or newer Marvin player gets 3 stocked by the whole roster.
    Thoughts?

    • @FGenthusiast0052
      @FGenthusiast0052 2 місяці тому +2

      Marvin is nowhere near as 'balanced'.
      The fact that he not only is very light, but also he struggles badly to get stocks is quite annoying. They even nerfed his button loops.
      His wincon requires his rocket to land on you, since his other ways to get stocks is at very high percentages. It is absurd how much you have to struggle to get stocks with him. A good player knows of the strengths and weaknesses of him, but his major flaw is how easy it is for him to die, alongside with the previous issue, he also has absurd amounts of cool downs in almost All his kit.
      All in all, he's a mid tier character (Velma isn't Mid, she's Low), because while he has some good stuff (rocket, down tilt grounded and air, button), there's a lot of problems that may make him not a viable option.
      I do main Marvin, and while he isn't terrible, a lot of the cast can rob him from stocks our out maneuver his shenanigans.

  • @Colt--ft9em
    @Colt--ft9em 2 місяці тому +10

    Finn and Arya should be in their own tier above the rest of the cast

  • @vicentegeonix
    @vicentegeonix 2 місяці тому +9

    I disagree with people that say Superman is cheap, if he was people would use him more and we barely find people using him, on the other hand we find a shit ton of Jokers, Harleys, Wonder womans, Shaggys, Samurai jacks, Batmans, Gizmo.
    People that don't play superman always say he is cheap but i bet you anything those people can't get a streak of wins with him if they face competent players.

    • @Smudgeandsquish-mu3fb
      @Smudgeandsquish-mu3fb 2 місяці тому +3

      The way I see Superman is that he’s cheap for lower level players, and the reason he doesn’t appear as much is because he doesn’t have much for higher level players to sink their teeth into, but of course that just my opinion

    • @aser7513
      @aser7513 2 місяці тому +2

      If u in the low tiers he is very good and cheap but when u get to the hight tiers he is very bad or mid

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому +1

      Superman is cheap because he’s like taz or finn. He just wants to catch a dodge and kill you. Also supermans have a lot of gimmicky tactics. Trust me lol

    • @vicentegeonix
      @vicentegeonix 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah you can say that aboit every character brother. Hahaha ​@@lostgriff

    • @sippin1375
      @sippin1375 2 місяці тому +1

      it’s the constant armor he gets that pisses me off. That’s what makes him cheap asf for me. He can just tank an attack with a charge and then kill you with an uppercut at like 40% damage. it’s insane really. He’s annoying asf to go against tbh

  • @vecko8977
    @vecko8977 2 місяці тому +9

    Jason does NOT need buffs, his kill power is some of the best in the game

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому +3

      Give him more cool combo routes fs

    • @imaginaryking5276
      @imaginaryking5276 2 місяці тому +3

      The only thing Jason has is kill power tho, just dodge and punish and he’s done before you even realize it.
      Jason just has too much going against him

    • @Tombz685
      @Tombz685 2 місяці тому +1

      ITS A KILLING SPREE WIT JASOONNNNNN 😭😭😭 YAH JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO USE HIM

    • @alimctaven7417
      @alimctaven7417 2 місяці тому

      @@Tombz685Yeah everytime I play against him in ranked he is always a headache to deal with. And knocking you out at 24 health should be illegal.

    • @DraconasTenZHG
      @DraconasTenZHG 2 місяці тому

      @@imaginaryking5276 Totally agree. I think Jason should be weaker but have better frames. I am gonna give an example of Agent Smith mu. Jason can dodge the N special and Smith is so fucking plus, he can just do it again because of how slow Jason is. Or he can dodge into jab, dodge into another N special etc. The only thing Jason seems to be able to punish is sidespecial which is a little unsafe. He is too slow to whiff punish anything else even if he reads.

  • @dapperdude1550
    @dapperdude1550 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the tier list! It’ll help me figure out who to spend currency to get
    I recently started playing this game and I’m trying to be the most deranged Finn possible. Should probably check out all the Finn content you got on your channel
    I’m pretty garbage at the game. Lots of rage matches and stuck in bronze LOL
    I also play a bit of Superman but I gotta practice him a lot more

  • @FriedChicken555
    @FriedChicken555 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey Griff I think it would be a good idea to put timestamps on your tier lists in general. Video helped heaps cheers

  • @westonb.9
    @westonb.9 2 місяці тому +2

    Had to leave a like and comment for showing tier list instantly

  • @leanderbenn9146
    @leanderbenn9146 2 місяці тому +2

    watched every minute, another banger. Yeah, I'm feeling the heat as Smith rn. Making a video on him. My main problem with him is that his recoveries in comparison to the rest of the cast are so long he feels clunky as fuck to play.

    • @darthyoda1238
      @darthyoda1238 2 місяці тому

      @@leanderbenn9146 yep when they gave his down and up air so much end lag I literally stopped playing him and I think they nerfed knockback on literally every move he has which is so sad because is he truly the most balanced player on release ever in this game and then they nerf him into the ground and don’t touch samurai Jack wtf is that 😂

    • @leanderbenn9146
      @leanderbenn9146 2 місяці тому

      @@darthyoda1238 yeah for sure his up and down air are the biggest problem points, but his side special on whiff is terrible as well

  • @adro696
    @adro696 2 місяці тому

    w tier list taz underrated

  • @manoozzy7677
    @manoozzy7677 2 місяці тому +5

    Samurai Jack lagging is S tier

  • @sherlocksvp5537
    @sherlocksvp5537 2 місяці тому +1

    Honestly, if you lose to a giant. It's your own fault. He's so easy to never let him touch the ground with nothing he can do about and you can whiff punish him ALL DAY. If you lose to him. You deserve to lose

  • @EthanKohut
    @EthanKohut 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm not going to lie I have a hard time killing with Finn even if I do his combos and 0 to death, his kit relies too much on dodge reads instead of having guaranteed kills, he is a lot of fun I just wish he had stronger kill power as any opponent with good di is basically a wall finn has to climb whereas other characters can kill so much easier

    • @EthanKohut
      @EthanKohut 2 місяці тому

      alss thanks for the shout out your finn is insane

  • @blueisacolor7639
    @blueisacolor7639 2 місяці тому

    I want you to try something. Try playing Taz, doing nothing but mostly spin, then tell me if you think he's where he should be. Im telling you, you can be crazy with just that one move. Folks dodge but still get hit. It's abusable af. Please try this. He's slept on because most players arent abusing it.

    • @nsiflong
      @nsiflong 2 місяці тому

      heres the thing though the spin is incredibly slow and most people can just run away from it and avoid it now i will say in 2s he gets alot better cause more is going on and usually people get caught by more things in 2s but i still think he isnt nearly as good as anybody in the top 2 tiers

    • @blueisacolor7639
      @blueisacolor7639 2 місяці тому

      @@nsiflong not being as abusable as the top tiers doesn't mean he's just fine. Even in ones, my little brother stomps in 1s with literally just that move. I see streamers, high winning players, get destroyed or struggle with it. 2s is where he shines mostly, like you said, but he can definitely be a menace in 1v1s too, dont get it twisted.

  • @esdelul
    @esdelul 2 місяці тому +1

    Smith so honest that he actually feels weak with so many stronger characters

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 2 місяці тому

      I think the stomps a major issue with his feel
      It’s a really weighty looking move with a lot of president but it doesn’t feel good to land I’m not saying go ganondorf level but falcon or doc
      Also is it just me if do spikes in general just not feel satisfying to land

  • @kyrellwilliams6911
    @kyrellwilliams6911 2 місяці тому +24

    It feels like morty is nerfed to the ground

    • @lnlightning
      @lnlightning 2 місяці тому +2

      @@kyrellwilliams6911 he is it feels so much harder to hit his mud wall combos you also have to get used to the new timing of the mud wall

    • @ilygalaxu
      @ilygalaxu 2 місяці тому +4

      morty still top 6 imo

    • @puzzledhypnoshroom1004
      @puzzledhypnoshroom1004 2 місяці тому

      Morty is still good

    • @Smudgeandsquish-mu3fb
      @Smudgeandsquish-mu3fb 2 місяці тому +4

      He’s still good, but he’s not as insane as he was, so he feels worse for people who got used to the busted morty, plus there’s always the built in bias of “oh my character isn’t that good” that plagues a lot of players. He’s still good, but he’s definitely worse than he was

    • @zombiefirebot6066
      @zombiefirebot6066 2 місяці тому

      i see what you did there

  • @sonfgodla5508
    @sonfgodla5508 2 місяці тому +1

    Tbh as a Morty main i care little about dirt nerf cuz it doesnt carry me to wins but sair nerf is what i really hope they revert

    • @edgardoFuentez
      @edgardoFuentez 2 місяці тому

      ive been learning that is not that bad man, it combos better into up air which is really superior then side air 2

    • @sonfgodla5508
      @sonfgodla5508 2 місяці тому

      @@edgardoFuentez so even before it connected with up air regardless prenerf the problem is that sair 2 looses its threat in killing off stage horizontally being you cant be as aggressive and makes you predictable in fishing for dirt to up air or sair1 to upair for kill confirms

    • @thepigeonman_
      @thepigeonman_ 2 місяці тому

      @@sonfgodla5508 right, it's like they want the character to be a campy mess, sair was like his only good approach option

  • @fiyinfoluwaojo-g6f
    @fiyinfoluwaojo-g6f 2 місяці тому +1

    A road to master Garnet vids would be great, I play garnet by the way, it would be a great source of information

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      I gotchu bro i am really considering it

    • @FriedChicken555
      @FriedChicken555 2 місяці тому

      I'm not a pro but doesn't Garnett have a true combo that can kill at 80 with most characters with there up air?

    • @fiyinfoluwaojo-g6f
      @fiyinfoluwaojo-g6f 2 місяці тому

      @@FriedChicken555 is that so?, well I did not know that, thank you though

    • @fiyinfoluwaojo-g6f
      @fiyinfoluwaojo-g6f 2 місяці тому

      @@lostgriff thank you so much

  • @darthyoda1238
    @darthyoda1238 2 місяці тому +1

    You can only bite with Jake once per stock. That’s not broken. If you bite twice in a stock they can immediately break out. I can tell you have played many Jake’s. Neither have I and I have 1000 Jake wins. Against most characters he isn’t good. He can only do that to Finn because of his broken loop that leaves him vulnerable at the edge of the map. I wish they would remove bite and give him big buffs but that won’t happen because why would pfg make the game fun? Lol

  • @sippin1375
    @sippin1375 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m actually getting insanely tired of shaggy. Like Samurai Jack isn’t even that big of an issue like post people point him out to be, but at the same time Shaggy is over here powering up every 2 seconds and spamming side special worse than any Samurai Jack player. Nobody is talking about shaggy and how powerful he really is, no skill at all just plain power ups and side specials. At least Jack has a bar that fills up over time, but shaggy can do it at anytime literally and nobody talks about that lmao.

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому +1

      Fr but I punish them most times or if I use a bad character I lose

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      And I he’s my second most used character

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      The power just punish and sandwich is just a good move same fir side just down air it or doadge

    • @kadensk3
      @kadensk3 2 місяці тому

      facts shaggy is the most busted low skill character

    • @DraconasTenZHG
      @DraconasTenZHG 2 місяці тому

      If you are actually dying to Ki charge and sidespecial spam then I think you're the one who doesn't have skill. You can turn on the lab and see how very minus this move is. You have 5 working days to punish it with literally any button.

  • @vitorsamuel777
    @vitorsamuel777 2 місяці тому +2

    Glad you didn't fall into the Samurai Jack overrater crew! Joker IMO is not as broken anymore solely because of the big whiff windows he has nowadays. The 3 last + Superman from the somewhere in between are also sharing the tier with some way stronger guys but I guess that's just how the tier list is set. I gotta get in on that Jake gimmick. I'm too honest with the punches and stuff instead of trying to eat people off stage.

    • @kingchato3052
      @kingchato3052 2 місяці тому +1

      @@vitorsamuel777 joker has a 35+dmg combo for free and a free 50 dmg kill confirm , he’s strong , just because whiff lag is strong doesn’t mean he isn’t

  • @KEnBevamping
    @KEnBevamping 2 місяці тому +2

    Y’all don’t think morty above tj is crazy like jerry literally destroys all of MORTYS tools then on top of that people yell grenades but they’re only as good as the player because u have to Manipulate them yourself by themselves they’re sad and the sair nerf and mud wall yeah ion agree my personal opinion

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      It be like that, I need more time to see how tnj vs morty stack up but this is how it looks so far

  • @elieg.8920
    @elieg.8920 2 місяці тому

    tried gizmo yesterday and was surprised how great he his now..

  • @KingCuzco
    @KingCuzco 2 місяці тому

    idk if it’s me but when i play against a steven or a wonder woman i STRUGGLE omfg they’re so annoying. i think i’ve played against a lot more steven’s and wonder woman’s during season 2 more than everyone else.

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      That Steven at lest one could be me I main him and he’s is so hard to fight
      Against I see people raging or trying cokked

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      When u fight him he’s easy

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      And ya Wonder Woman just annoying but I do hear them

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      Best

  • @JoshPedro-p4n
    @JoshPedro-p4n 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice tier list
    also who is better tom and jerry or bugs bunny

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      I’d have to argue bugs bunny but thats a personal take

    • @DraconasTenZHG
      @DraconasTenZHG 2 місяці тому

      T&J is op because of uptilt loop and spike into upair being true. Bugs is op because of a lot of more things.

  • @martinsteiger8360
    @martinsteiger8360 2 місяці тому

    Nice tierlist lostgriff but why is jack and tom and jerry not s tier?

  • @vCxge
    @vCxge 2 місяці тому

    i’m a newly plat finn who plays with a scuff xbox controller, tips on learning how to instant air dodge into Sair? I can only do it into my up air. Struggling to get any other attack? Is it a timing thing?

  • @WickWolfTiger
    @WickWolfTiger 2 місяці тому +2

    Do people just want arya to be super light without any payoff?

  • @ZeekeyProductions561
    @ZeekeyProductions561 2 місяці тому +1

    YESSSSSSSS GRIFF UPLOAAAADDD

  • @joezak5486
    @joezak5486 2 місяці тому +1

    It is nice to see Arya get nerfed a bit. It was so frustrating playing Arya players😂

    • @casualboy2239
      @casualboy2239 2 місяці тому

      Still broken😭😭

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      Fr, but it barely did anything which is sad

    • @calebkennedy2237
      @calebkennedy2237 2 місяці тому

      She’s already super light, nerf her more and she’s useless

    • @casualboy2239
      @casualboy2239 2 місяці тому +1

      @@calebkennedy2237 huh? Gizmo is also super light and still deserves nerfs. Weight doesn’t really do anything for her as she is extremely mobile and hard to catch. Also: still broken

    • @unLokii-
      @unLokii- 2 місяці тому

      @@casualboy2239she’s a perfect glass cannon character. Yall just can’t play around her for some reason.

  • @sethbarley3884
    @sethbarley3884 2 місяці тому

    I don’t think you’ve played Velma if you don’t think she needs buffs.

  • @JDYTt
    @JDYTt 2 місяці тому

    Hey griff how do you do that was side attack combo with Finn where you dodge into them after hiting two sword side attacks?

  • @Fearedits-q8c
    @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

    Morty at Stevean and stevean at Morty

  • @ulrich101
    @ulrich101 2 місяці тому +2

    In 1s I can maybe see how some people think banana guard isn’t top tier but in 2s that fruit is a terror lol the chaos lets him sneak in those cheeky kill moves.
    Also Marvin is catching me by surprise in 2s. Seems impossible to approach some games.
    And I see you still have some Jake trauma left over from the beta lol will keep you in my prayers
    Just messing with you

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      Nah fr you gotta keep me in your prayers 😭 these jake players needs touch grass. Also yeah if banana guard had some combos he’d actually be good

  • @ps4pw
    @ps4pw 2 місяці тому

    Bron needs a buff NOW!!!!

    • @nsiflong
      @nsiflong 2 місяці тому

      well they made his ball good but then nerfed it cause people complained about it and now im stuck with a character that has good combos good kill potential and the best edge guarding in the game in my opinion but hes incredibly hard to start combos with unless you really know what you are doing whereas other characters you can flat out play them once and get better combos with them

    • @ps4pw
      @ps4pw 2 місяці тому

      @@nsiflong need a lebron buff still they had no reason there’s a max of 700 people that play him out of the 3k people that play Tom and Jerry,shaggy,samurai jack etc and multi decides to nerf Bron not enough people had to have begged multi to nerf Bron there’s no way not enough people play bron to make a impact within the game

  • @redfacegames293
    @redfacegames293 2 місяці тому

    Finn being godlike is so jarring, considering he wasn’t very good in beta.
    Or I was just bad

    • @smeargy
      @smeargy 2 місяці тому

      He was really good in the beta, mainly because of his speed, up b, and jem

    • @DraconasTenZHG
      @DraconasTenZHG 2 місяці тому

      He wasn't very good in the beta. When the game was like one month old, he was top 3 strongest characters for the rest of the beta. Haha I had you in the first half.

  • @Larry_Suave
    @Larry_Suave 2 місяці тому

    Does anybody know a good place to go to learn higher level tech with individual characters? I've been playing marvin and stripe but I can't find any real guides to combos and how to master them.

  • @3alphonse5
    @3alphonse5 2 місяці тому

    Hello i have do a tl on mvs france with maths. Joker, wonder, Black adams, ig lower and batman, superman Tom and Jerry Steven raindog upper

  • @sammydimes
    @sammydimes 2 місяці тому

    Good list. lowkey feel like they should rework or just remove iron giant

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      Yeahh, as of right now he just creates so many issues for high level players trying to take the game seriously

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      To me he’s never been a issue

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      Aslo why sleep on taz reindog and Marvin

  • @MFDeeksGaming
    @MFDeeksGaming 2 місяці тому

    Honestly pretty new fan of yours since I downloaded Multiversus but this video (although it’s opinion) is pretty mid. The fact that you put banana guard in the “where the balance should be” category is hilarious. Dude has no solid combos, crazy damage for single input moves and is the definition of a spammer whose moves tend to take priority. Not to mention his hit boxes for his attacks are really good.

  • @Weescottishladfan
    @Weescottishladfan 2 місяці тому

    Any ody that says morty is mud wall spam I gotta say are actual dumb as hell cause not only is it morty stun gun that they should be complaining abt but it's like if Finn spammed jab and was called a jab spammed like it's morty approach option only difference is its ranged it's not like you can't dodge or jump over it sti

  • @davondavis4079
    @davondavis4079 2 місяці тому

    Keep sleeping on Velma😈

  • @Mid-AirMan
    @Mid-AirMan 2 місяці тому

    People who don't play gizmo rate him high.

    • @Olmlo.
      @Olmlo. 2 місяці тому

      Hes top tier

    • @Mid-AirMan
      @Mid-AirMan 2 місяці тому

      @@Olmlo. He constantly has to run because he is outmatched in melee.

    • @Olmlo.
      @Olmlo. 2 місяці тому

      @@Mid-AirMan His up and down air are great for me+ his arrows are just a free 5 damage+ignite.I rl like him.

  • @CaptainG-zero
    @CaptainG-zero 2 місяці тому

    Jake's bite does make him broken as hell for the most part. At least now it's easier to escape it now, so he is not bad to play. What holds him back is that you have to delay certain moves to counter dodges abit, cause majority of the cast has ways to have lingering hit boxes to cover that dodge space. Probably make fair linger just a bit longer and we be fine, that's my only buff I give him.

    • @derrickrobinson7269
      @derrickrobinson7269 2 місяці тому +3

      FUCK no. Timing his Sairs to counter dodge is a form of skill expression, something this game seems to be lacking. It's called reading your opponent, something nearly all fighting games have as a fundamental skill yet in this game the better half of the roster doesnt need to have that skill nearly to the degree everyone else does because some of them are damn near plus or in a good position on whiff

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому +2

      I think they should just make his down b better and continue with the small buffs cause as of right now he could easily become gamebreaking

    • @CaptainG-zero
      @CaptainG-zero 2 місяці тому

      @@derrickrobinson7269 fair enough. I don't mind it.

    • @CaptainG-zero
      @CaptainG-zero 2 місяці тому

      @lostgriff buffing him small is good enough yeah. And Down B I wish it was better.

    • @CaptainG-zero
      @CaptainG-zero 2 місяці тому

      @derrickrobinson7269 also I don't mind reading the opponent and getting the timing right, and overtime I learned how to counter the dodges with fair cause sometimes I have to do other moves to catch those dodges or delay the fair to even catch that. Game sometimes does not register whether or I not got the hit especially if I hit it at the exact time they were going to dodge. Dam I sound like Piccolo saying dodge so much lol.

  • @aser7513
    @aser7513 2 місяці тому

    Gizmo is good if u master his movement other than that if u don’t master it he will die so fast

    • @lostgriff
      @lostgriff  2 місяці тому

      True but you dont need movement to hold arrow and auto win

  • @yawns3004
    @yawns3004 2 місяці тому

    Everyone sleeping on Tom. Hes top 5 easy. Also i can't understand how anyone thinks Iron Giant is good anymore. Hes legitimately mid tier

  • @Fearedits-q8c
    @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

    Yall I hit hot takes gizmo is not that good I see him in middle of a tier Batman should be lower in sane tier but lower bugs in yellow taz reindog in a tier and smith at higher in a but low a and jabs in middle of it Marvin at top of balance

    • @Fearedits-q8c
      @Fearedits-q8c 2 місяці тому

      Finn at red and iron in low middle a cuz yall complain so much

  • @ZERODE11
    @ZERODE11 2 місяці тому

    Perfect

  • @Gfazo38
    @Gfazo38 2 місяці тому

    BUGS need a buff so underwhelming to play bugs they nerfed him to the ground forced to play with gizmo lol bugs was so fun🤣

  • @sacalicious7254
    @sacalicious7254 2 місяці тому

    his setup is lost

  • @ChrisXtophers
    @ChrisXtophers 2 місяці тому

    nerf lebron

  • @G4bri3lR_Z
    @G4bri3lR_Z 2 місяці тому

    Must be the most acurrate tierlist

  • @puzzledhypnoshroom1004
    @puzzledhypnoshroom1004 2 місяці тому

    Honestly Tom and Jerry should be in the exact same tier but just a little lower

    • @casualboy2239
      @casualboy2239 2 місяці тому

      No. I’m a tj main and tbf they aren’t good enough. Tom without Jerry is Literally worse than Jason, Jerry can get killed by any move that does 10 dmg (ik that not many characters have like fast 10 dmg moves but yeah still a problem), the only reliable kill moves are up air, rocket and maybe fishing rod (cheesy)…… only environment where I could see them as a godlike tier is 2s, but no one playing 2s realistically

    • @puzzledhypnoshroom1004
      @puzzledhypnoshroom1004 2 місяці тому

      @@casualboy2239 Yk what i completely agree

    • @puzzledhypnoshroom1004
      @puzzledhypnoshroom1004 2 місяці тому

      @@casualboy2239 I am too and I try to tell ppl he’s not that good. But they argue with me and say he’s broken and top 3 to 1.

    • @casualboy2239
      @casualboy2239 2 місяці тому +1

      @@puzzledhypnoshroom1004 he is still good. I love the Jerry shot so much cuz it combos so well into up b and dair. His Zoning, projectile spam and damn near infinite nspecial up b combo make him so tuff to face and fun to play. Imo he top 10, but Arya, IG, Gizmo, Finn, Joker n Morty are js a tier for themselves.

    • @puzzledhypnoshroom1004
      @puzzledhypnoshroom1004 2 місяці тому +1

      @@casualboy2239 he’s good but other characters just have more broken sht if that makes sense