But did not everyone really go mad form the Grandfather Paradox to Jalpax. From Borusa (is that spelt right) to Commander Maxilla. Even Romana goes mad in the Eighth Doctor books. I don’t think anytime is really sane some where still inspired and some still ran but they where all mad.
@@stephenmurphy2212 Modern Who is AWFUL with using Gallifrey and the Time Lords. It says a lot that Moffat has done the best so far. In the RTD, the Master literally got 3 episodes and 1 special. Chibnall nuked the planet twice. Hell Bent is the only modern Who Gallifrey episode with Time Lords (that isn't destroyed or in the Time War) and only half of it forced on Gallifrey (the other half was another Clara episode). Modern Who has a serious Gallifrey/Time Lord Problem (and a companion problem (and a "OH MY GOD JUST EXPLORE THE TARDIS BEYOND THE CONSOLE ROOM FOR MORE THAN ONE EPISODE" problem (and then randomly a problem moving away from old reoccurring villians who have been used and genocide too much to still be threatening (and a problem with fans nitpicking everything and always complaining (that last one is a joke; criticism is how the things we love grow))))).
0:55 _it's not just the gorgeous CG in the following scene that makes finally seeing Gallifrey so satisfying._ The lighting of the alley where they sit eating chips is intrinsic to making it work. The whole set is cloaked in blue, with just half of David's face in the burnt orange light. Like he's half-remembering something. Only half. As he confesses in The End of Time, this is how he _chooses_ to remember them. Also a nice way to demonstrate the Doctor's fall from grace. To go from scarlet cloaks and soaring spires to an alleyway and chips. Like an angel among men, as I'm sure 10 himself would have put it.
@@minimalgrammar1276 - fire and water. Fire _in_ the water. The Fires of Pompeii and The Waters of Mars. _"Like fire and ice and rage."_ The iconography of the 10th Doctor. Iconography to bare in mind for the 60th.
Even the greatest and most noble cultures have their evil ones, their mad ones, their bad ones. To be honest, though, the Rani frightened me more than the Master.
for paul mcganns movie adaptation, the master was going to turn out to be the doctors long lost brother so that line, "you've been watching too much tv" always got me dying cuz how meta it is for him to say that
Also, in a roundabout way, a callback to the initial planned final story for Jon Pertwee, The Final Game - The Master was gonna be revealed to be the Doctor’s brother/shadow (in the Jungian sense), and would then sacrifice himself at the end of the story - had it not been for Roger Delgado’s tragic and untimely death.
I mean, it is a wiki page, but imagine you were one of the Apollo Astronauts. If someone asked you what the moon was like, you'd wax lyrical like The Doctor does here.
Hearing the Torchwood music in the background was such a brilliant feeling! And I love the little glimpse into the Doctor and Master’s relationship... if only The Doctor knew what truly happened to The Master that night!
@@kryten1016 a very very strong contender and in a completely different way too, but David takes the no.1 spot for me but I can fully understand why someone would have Matt as their favourite.
1:20 _"Sworn never to interfere, only to watch."_ And this is what he ran away from. This is the rule he so-defied. So, no, 13. Do not stand by and "let history take its course." Are you a renegade Time Lord, or a Johnson-voting Guardian reader? Next time you see injustice - whether it be Rosa Parks or Nicola Tesla - don't just tell Graham to put his feet up. Not the best message for kids really, is it Chris? Side note, but I adore that shot of the Time Lord overlayed on top of the Citadel. The curl of the collar next to the globe makes for such vivid imagery. Nothing intrigued me more than Russell's Gallifrey as a kid. All in the visuals, as he well knew.
@dr103 - he should. I don't care about time travel logic (I understand the Ripple Effect). But telling kids "There's nothing you can do, just stand back and let them deal with it themselves" is just horrible. And applying that to the Civil Rights Movement? A _white woman_ saying this?? God, it's terrible. At least in the RTD/Moffat years, this 'non-interventionalist' policy was only brought up in timey-wimey situations. For the most part, those Doctors were keen to take part in history. Classic Who is as guilty as Chibnall's.
@@nightowl8477 she didn't tell him to put his feet up. The Doctor is a time traveler. She knows that Rosa Parks is critical to history. Interfering in THAT particular moment, with what is supposed to be Rosa's moment, could have catastrophic consequences for the internal development of humanity. The Doctor protects humanity from outside threats, interferes to keep them safe. Which is why she and her companions stopped the guy threatening to end Rosa's legacy. Messing with what leads into a critical moment in history is the opposite of helping.
@@nightowl8477 god what a terrible idea a 'white' woman saving the 'black' woman and thus destroying the civil rights movement. No. The whole point was that Rosa Park had to do what she did to inspire the Montgomery bus boycott which lead to the rising up of the civil rights movement. It's a fixed moment in time which cannot be interfered with
That’s Chibs for ya! Steal ideas especially terrible ideas like the Cartnell master plan and makes it even more worse somehow like how he did with the timeless children. Plus the unoriginal ideas like one you just said. I also have a feeling he stole half of the main plot idea from “The planet of evil” for “42” yet ppl are still sucking up to him in the fandom here??
Ah, yes. The totally original and unique to Russell T Davies story trope of “characters being on the run”. As derivative as some moments of the Chibnall era were, this is a bit of a stretch.
@SirDanFilmsUnltd - ahh, I don't think so. But I'm not gonna argue it since I find it frankly boring how much criticism - and _dull_ criticism at that - Chris and his era get. There's also a lot of misogyny behind it frankly. And I'm tslking about central fandom, on Twitter, not even NMDs. Not my era, I have many faults with it, but jesus has fandom been boring the last five years. Everyone itching to find another minor plot hole or a character being _flawed._ Like a bloodsport.
I LOVE THIS SCENE. IVE WATCHED IT ON UA-cam FROM RANDOM PEOPLE BUT THEYVE FINALLY OFFICIALLY UPLOADED IT THE MUSIC WHEN THE DOCTOR TALKS ABOUT GALLIFREY IS AMAZING
And unbeknownst to the Doctor. He would later save his wonderful planet with his past and future selves in the Day of the Doctor. Then it was destroyed again....
The mystery of the Time Lords, regeneration and Galifrey are some of the things I loved about Doctor Who. I don't feel we have that anymore and the thought of those silly cybermen Time Lords just made it feel like everything was a joke to the current writers.
The time lords have never been mysterious, we’ve known their origins since the earlier 80’s, it’s just changed. And what’s wrong with the CyberMasters?
Always makes me wonder if any relevance to new episode when you post on new day! Then, or now a long winded discussion has ensued in my house as to potential links, no doubt none of which play out but this I think is why I love this show!
Now we know from watching The Timeless Children that the Time Vortex had nothing to do with the birth of the Time Lords. So my theory is the Untempered Schism actually played a part in the Time Lords evolution not their creation e.g. it induced Gallifreyan offspring with artron energy in their initiation ceremony. Billions of years of exposure to the time vortex gave the Time Lords the power to be space-time beings. For example: It gave them the ability to see through time, to posses knowledge of time and so on. The Timeless Child’s DNA only gave Time Lords the ability to regenerate, a binary vascular system (two hearts) and other physical characteristics associated with Time Lord biology. Edit: River Song/Melody Pond did become half Time Lord by being conceived by Amy and Rory on board the TARDIS whilst travelling through the vortex. Plus Time Lord DNA is embedded in the TARDIS’s systems which is why it is tuned to the Doctor (isomorphic). The embryo Amy was carrying was induced with Artron energy from the vortex and the TARDIS did the rest by incorporating Time Lord DNA into it, hence River became the Child of the Tardis.
@@shalomwilsonn2853 nah, not really. Just liberal woke nonsense ruining decades of established cannon. The sooner 13’s era is retconned into oblivion the better.
@@alegl5141 it hasn’t ruined canon because the Doctor is obviously a reincarnation of the Timeless Child. William Hartnell is still the first incarnation. But I do admit I have mixed feelings about The Timeless Children.
I rather ignore Chiballs bad fan fiction. Thinking he could take imagination the limit of creativity way too far! He’s literally rewriting Doctor Who in his own image! It’s meant for everyone Chibnall you moron!
I am still not a big fan of the "Timeless Child" twist since I feel it retcons too much of the series' continuity and the Doctor as a character. If they had just gone the route of The Doctor lived an entire regeneration cycle that they chose to forget about (like how Capaldi forgot Clara) I think that would have worked fine, but I feel the route they went goes against too much of the established Time Lord lore/history of Gallifrey. Plus, before this twist The Doctor was just an average Time Lord who was interested in Earth/loved exploring the universe while the rest of the Time Lords looked down on other forms of life and chose to isolate themselves, but if Time Lord society as we know it only exists because of The Timeless Child then The Doctor would have been more respected and been aware of their significance. So, I blame this idea solely on Chibnall since I feel this twist wouldn't have worked regardless of who was The Doctor, but I do like Whitaker as The Doctor.
@@K_10107 Basically The Master shows The Doctor a presentation that says "You are Adopted" in the end. If to be serious, it says that The Doctor was originally a black girl, who was found by ancient Gallifreyan traveller on other planet near the unknown portal. After learning that this girl has the regeneration powers, this traveller experimented on her, before she could obtain this power by herself. After this, regeneration became a common thing for Gallifreyan elite, who built themselves a cytadel and called themselves a "Time Lords". So, basically, The Doctor is the basis for regeneration ability, even though it is impiled that they've got it from the Time Vortex (River Song).
I like to think that the Untempered Schism was merely the first trial of many on the path to earning the rank of Time Lord. Perhaps the final would be to alter the timeline of the universe in a wholly positive way. I had an idea for a Christmas episode, whereby a pre-renegade Doctor faces his final task (sacred territory, I know). Basically, it's just It's A Wonderful Life meets Doctor Who, with the Doctor showing a suicidal man an alternate timeline if he were never born. To earn his halo, or so he says (his Time Lord robes and collar, in actuality.)
I heavily doubt that changing history would be part of academy trials, especially considering that the Timelords swore never to interfere with history (unless it was the CIA doing it that is)
I love this scene! It’s a shame! The new doctor who series just f**ked it up! The writer and the feel and theme of Doctor who just isn’t the same since Peter left which is such a shame! She is a good doctor just the show isn’t the same!
mmmm fish and chips XD anyone heard the story john barrowman tol about exactely this scene? they got rather sick after this having to eat this stuff in every take they had to do
We need tennant back for 60th anniversary and the next doctor after Jodie to be similar and have the music that the tennant era had. It’s the best type of DW
Turns out not that powerful. They’ve got really powerful technology but they’re really sneaky about it’s usage and they just spend most of their time playing politics with one another
But then The Deadly Assassin and Trial of a Time Lord made them not terrifying at all... The Time Lords were best done when the information we had about them was limited.
The music is so great in this, I miss the character development and the grittiness of Doctor Who. I can't wait to not watch the show tomorrow, looking forward to read the reviews though. I'm glad the channel is reminiscing on the times when the show was actually good.
It's all fun until you get to stare at something at age 8. I am telling you that is no way to grow a child. I would love to have 2 hearts but I am not a fan of becoming mad.
We all know now that the Doctor is NOT a timelord from Galifrey. Originally born as a young girl, she was a senitant being with unlimited regenerative ability from another dimension. She was discovered by a traveler from Galifrey. From there the traveler continually forced the child to regenerate until discovering the base code for regeneration. This was then planted in all the Timelords with the ability restriced to 13.
The Doctor is still a Time Lord, just not originally Gallifreyan. She was still raised on Gallifrey and that is the only life she had ever known, so in a sense she can still claim she’s from Gallifrey although not being born there.
@@chilean395 I also thought about that. I still hope to hear "I know exactly who i am. Maybie i am not from Gallifrrey, but i know exactly, that Gallifrey will always be my home..." in the end of Series 13
They can't be called frauds, because, if to judge by the current "canon", only founders of Time Lord society knew about the Timeless Child. Other Gallifreyans ans eventually Time Lord saw this as just an "invention". So basically, all of them had no idea.
I prefer not to think about the timeless child plot, too many plot holes. I prefer to see them as a noble race lead by a man the was resurrected and then poisoned by war, seeing and observing all of time and space.
It's literally a) an attempt to virtue-signal and, more insidiously, b) to promote mental illness as some kind of badge of honor, something that makes you uniquely sensitive and special, thus enfeebling society when too many people fall for it. I totally reject the idea that mental disorders are something to aspire to / share with others. I'm not trying to downplay the pain or medical significance of a mental illness, but I cannot stand the postmodern idea that sharing it with anyone outside of your immediate family somehow alleviates it, and endears you to people. It doesn't.
Man, This Is Gallifrey is an absolutely beautiful bit of DW soundtrack.
Murray Gold was the best choice for composer they could have ever made
Some would be inspired: The Rani
Some would run away: The Doctor
And some would go mad: The Master, Borousa and Morbius
But did not everyone really go mad form the Grandfather Paradox to Jalpax. From Borusa (is that spelt right) to Commander Maxilla. Even Romana goes mad in the Eighth Doctor books. I don’t think anytime is really sane some where still inspired and some still ran but they where all mad.
@@cousinmonachpsis5707 I’m just naming the key ppl in the categories
I can’t believe the Rani hasn’t made her New Series debut yet.
@@stephenmurphy2212 Modern Who is AWFUL with using Gallifrey and the Time Lords. It says a lot that Moffat has done the best so far. In the RTD, the Master literally got 3 episodes and 1 special. Chibnall nuked the planet twice. Hell Bent is the only modern Who Gallifrey episode with Time Lords (that isn't destroyed or in the Time War) and only half of it forced on Gallifrey (the other half was another Clara episode). Modern Who has a serious Gallifrey/Time Lord Problem (and a companion problem (and a "OH MY GOD JUST EXPLORE THE TARDIS BEYOND THE CONSOLE ROOM FOR MORE THAN ONE EPISODE" problem (and then randomly a problem moving away from old reoccurring villians who have been used and genocide too much to still be threatening (and a problem with fans nitpicking everything and always complaining (that last one is a joke; criticism is how the things we love grow))))).
And Omega too.
Back in 2007, it felt like the wait was worth it to see Gallifrey for the first time if you had been watching since Series 1.
So many gold soundtracks from the Tennant era !
Murray Gold, perhaps?
The best music ever in this serie
Yes. I approve.
@@Houharium you are the best 😁
Its definitely one of. My personal favourite is the shepards boy from heaven sent
@@hdrd28 Thank you. 👍
I dissagree but respec your opinion personally I like tomb of the cybermen and “all the strange creatures”
0:55 _it's not just the gorgeous CG in the following scene that makes finally seeing Gallifrey so satisfying._
The lighting of the alley where they sit eating chips is intrinsic to making it work. The whole set is cloaked in blue, with just half of David's face in the burnt orange light. Like he's half-remembering something. Only half. As he confesses in The End of Time, this is how he _chooses_ to remember them.
Also a nice way to demonstrate the Doctor's fall from grace. To go from scarlet cloaks and soaring spires to an alleyway and chips. Like an angel among men, as I'm sure 10 himself would have put it.
Oh shit yeah I didn't even notice that: Orange and blue!
@@minimalgrammar1276 - fire and water. Fire _in_ the water. The Fires of Pompeii and The Waters of Mars. _"Like fire and ice and rage."_
The iconography of the 10th Doctor. Iconography to bare in mind for the 60th.
@@nightowl8477water can also symbolise him drowning the Racnoss children
Cant wait to see John back on the show!
#KEEPJACKBACK
dont we all.
to bad the show died before he could come back
It’s still got a bit of life let’s hope chibers pulls through or he leaves in 2023 and someone else takes control
@@dorikaroxby783 is 2023 when season 14 happens, or is this more of a vague thing?
I love the small hints of the Torchwood theme when Jack and 10 are talking about Torchwood. God bless Murray Gold
Even the greatest and most noble cultures have their evil ones, their mad ones, their bad ones. To be honest, though, the Rani frightened me more than the Master.
the music... ah what a masterpiece
for paul mcganns movie adaptation, the master was going to turn out to be the doctors long lost brother so that line, "you've been watching too much tv" always got me dying cuz how meta it is for him to say that
Also, in a roundabout way, a callback to the initial planned final story for Jon Pertwee, The Final Game - The Master was gonna be revealed to be the Doctor’s brother/shadow (in the Jungian sense), and would then sacrifice himself at the end of the story - had it not been for Roger Delgado’s tragic and untimely death.
Love this scene so much. And that music, I could listen to it all day.
Counting down the dayssss
"Won't you show pity on your own-Ah!"
The Master to the Doctor, Planet of Fire (1984)
0:17
_Honey, with respect,_ no-one _can be_ that _daft_
_How can David make reading from a Wiki page this enchanting?_
I mean, it is a wiki page, but imagine you were one of the Apollo Astronauts. If someone asked you what the moon was like, you'd wax lyrical like The Doctor does here.
Hearing the Torchwood music in the background was such a brilliant feeling! And I love the little glimpse into the Doctor and Master’s relationship... if only The Doctor knew what truly happened to The Master that night!
God I miss torchwood
The music is phenomenal in this scene
there will never be anyone like David Tennant.
How about my matt smith🥺
@@kryten1016 a very very strong contender and in a completely different way too, but David takes the no.1 spot for me but I can fully understand why someone would have Matt as their favourite.
1:20 _"Sworn never to interfere, only to watch."_ And this is what he ran away from. This is the rule he so-defied. So, no, 13. Do not stand by and "let history take its course." Are you a renegade Time Lord, or a Johnson-voting Guardian reader? Next time you see injustice - whether it be Rosa Parks or Nicola Tesla - don't just tell Graham to put his feet up. Not the best message for kids really, is it Chris?
Side note, but I adore that shot of the Time Lord overlayed on top of the Citadel. The curl of the collar next to the globe makes for such vivid imagery. Nothing intrigued me more than Russell's Gallifrey as a kid. All in the visuals, as he well knew.
@dr103 - he should. I don't care about time travel logic (I understand the Ripple Effect). But telling kids "There's nothing you can do, just stand back and let them deal with it themselves" is just horrible. And applying that to the Civil Rights Movement? A _white woman_ saying this?? God, it's terrible.
At least in the RTD/Moffat years, this 'non-interventionalist' policy was only brought up in timey-wimey situations. For the most part, those Doctors were keen to take part in history. Classic Who is as guilty as Chibnall's.
@@nightowl8477 she didn't tell him to put his feet up. The Doctor is a time traveler. She knows that Rosa Parks is critical to history. Interfering in THAT particular moment, with what is supposed to be Rosa's moment, could have catastrophic consequences for the internal development of humanity.
The Doctor protects humanity from outside threats, interferes to keep them safe. Which is why she and her companions stopped the guy threatening to end Rosa's legacy. Messing with what leads into a critical moment in history is the opposite of helping.
@@nightowl8477 god what a terrible idea a 'white' woman saving the 'black' woman and thus destroying the civil rights movement. No. The whole point was that Rosa Park had to do what she did to inspire the Montgomery bus boycott which lead to the rising up of the civil rights movement. It's a fixed moment in time which cannot be interfered with
Changing history or causing a loophole making more alternate histories?
Those strange wizards of the universe of Doctor who there like The servants of Emperor Ming the Merciless from the Flash Gordon series
LOL
Long flappy cape and gloves included
This scene basically summarises why the new series was never the same after RTD left.
God, I wish we got more of this TARDIS team on the run.
_No wonder Chris stole the idea, it was pretty short-lived._
That’s Chibs for ya! Steal ideas especially terrible ideas like the Cartnell master plan and makes it even more worse somehow like how he did with the timeless children. Plus the unoriginal ideas like one you just said. I also have a feeling he stole half of the main plot idea from “The planet of evil” for “42” yet ppl are still sucking up to him in the fandom here??
Ah, yes. The totally original and unique to Russell T Davies story trope of “characters being on the run”. As derivative as some moments of the Chibnall era were, this is a bit of a stretch.
@SirDanFilmsUnltd - ahh, I don't think so. But I'm not gonna argue it since I find it frankly boring how much criticism - and _dull_ criticism at that - Chris and his era get. There's also a lot of misogyny behind it frankly. And I'm tslking about central fandom, on Twitter, not even NMDs. Not my era, I have many faults with it, but jesus has fandom been boring the last five years. Everyone itching to find another minor plot hole or a character being _flawed._ Like a bloodsport.
This song that plays here is so beautiful
I am so excited for Doctor Who
0:44
Jacks face when martha said secret brother
Think it gives a clue to the s2 of torchwood when jacks brother Gray was introduced
0:46
I watch Doctor Who way too much !!
And I’m proud to see the series !!
I'm so excited because of Captain Jack returning!!!
I LOVE THIS SCENE. IVE WATCHED IT ON UA-cam FROM RANDOM PEOPLE BUT THEYVE FINALLY OFFICIALLY UPLOADED IT THE MUSIC WHEN THE DOCTOR TALKS ABOUT GALLIFREY IS AMAZING
"I thought you were going to say he was your secret brother"....if John Leekley had his way, then yes he would have been.
I fancied a chippy tea now
Absolutely sublime music and cinematography (for a bbc show at that time).
And unbeknownst to the Doctor. He would later save his wonderful planet with his past and future selves in the Day of the Doctor.
Then it was destroyed again....
Off-screen. In a temper tantrum. For no narrative reason. Fun, eh?
@@Cailus3542 We dont acknowledge the newest series
Jack: How come the ancient society of Time Lords created a psychopath.
The Doctor: *Laughs in The Eleven*
It kind of cracks me up that through this whole emotional conversation, the Doctor never stops stuffing his face..
The mystery of the Time Lords, regeneration and Galifrey are some of the things I loved about Doctor Who. I don't feel we have that anymore and the thought of those silly cybermen Time Lords just made it feel like everything was a joke to the current writers.
Listen to iris wild thyme cannon is a joke get over it
@@cousinmonachpsis5707 No way my friend. The Canon is what makes the show so cool, or at least it was.
@@mwd5001 the show has no canon
The time lords have never been mysterious, we’ve known their origins since the earlier 80’s, it’s just changed. And what’s wrong with the CyberMasters?
@@DoctorWhoHugh it would be cool to see a first human being with ability to regenerate
Always makes me wonder if any relevance to new episode when you post on new day! Then, or now a long winded discussion has ensued in my house as to potential links, no doubt none of which play out but this I think is why I love this show!
that bowl cut disturbs me
Now we know from watching The Timeless Children that the Time Vortex had nothing to do with the birth of the Time Lords. So my theory is the Untempered Schism actually played a part in the Time Lords evolution not their creation e.g. it induced Gallifreyan offspring with artron energy in their initiation ceremony. Billions of years of exposure to the time vortex gave the Time Lords the power to be space-time beings. For example: It gave them the ability to see through time, to posses knowledge of time and so on.
The Timeless Child’s DNA only gave Time Lords the ability to regenerate, a binary vascular system (two hearts) and other physical characteristics associated with Time Lord biology.
Edit: River Song/Melody Pond did become half Time Lord by being conceived by Amy and Rory on board the TARDIS whilst travelling through the vortex. Plus Time Lord DNA is embedded in the TARDIS’s systems which is why it is tuned to the Doctor (isomorphic). The embryo Amy was carrying was induced with Artron energy from the vortex and the TARDIS did the rest by incorporating Time Lord DNA into it, hence River became the Child of the Tardis.
@@shalomwilsonn2853 nah, not really. Just liberal woke nonsense ruining decades of established cannon. The sooner 13’s era is retconned into oblivion the better.
@@alegl5141 it hasn’t ruined canon because the Doctor is obviously a reincarnation of the Timeless Child. William Hartnell is still the first incarnation. But I do admit I have mixed feelings about The Timeless Children.
I rather ignore Chiballs bad fan fiction. Thinking he could take imagination the limit of creativity way too far! He’s literally rewriting Doctor Who in his own image! It’s meant for everyone Chibnall you moron!
@@stephenmurphy2212 I get it. So The Timeless Child is essentially The Other. (read Lungbarrow by Marc Platt)
@@BarryLetts379 Yes that’s what a lot of fans are saying.
Oh my gosh. How much remember.
David tennant just nailed the character .....🙃☺
This is a great scene.
Miss him so much
Tenth Doctor: The oldest and most mighty race in the universe, looking down on the galaxies below.
Me: Next to the Watchers.
He could voice any documentry with that accent.
I have a theory that the doctor the master and the Rani where the 3 children of gallifrey
One of my earliest memories of Doctor Who after becoming a Whovian.
That 1 dislike... The Master
I am still not a big fan of the "Timeless Child" twist since I feel it retcons too much of the series' continuity and the Doctor as a character. If they had just gone the route of The Doctor lived an entire regeneration cycle that they chose to forget about (like how Capaldi forgot Clara) I think that would have worked fine, but I feel the route they went goes against too much of the established Time Lord lore/history of Gallifrey. Plus, before this twist The Doctor was just an average Time Lord who was interested in Earth/loved exploring the universe while the rest of the Time Lords looked down on other forms of life and chose to isolate themselves, but if Time Lord society as we know it only exists because of The Timeless Child then The Doctor would have been more respected and been aware of their significance. So, I blame this idea solely on Chibnall since I feel this twist wouldn't have worked regardless of who was The Doctor, but I do like Whitaker as The Doctor.
@@K_10107 Basically The Master shows The Doctor a presentation that says "You are Adopted" in the end.
If to be serious, it says that The Doctor was originally a black girl, who was found by ancient Gallifreyan traveller on other planet near the unknown portal. After learning that this girl has the regeneration powers, this traveller experimented on her, before she could obtain this power by herself. After this, regeneration became a common thing for Gallifreyan elite, who built themselves a cytadel and called themselves a "Time Lords". So, basically, The Doctor is the basis for regeneration ability, even though it is impiled that they've got it from the Time Vortex (River Song).
@@K_10107 I can just say "The One with the Box".
Basically, Chris chibnall fucked up the entire canon.
Makes me wonder, really wonder what the Doctor saw that made him want to run. Did he see himself in all his iterations?
Miss this theme and he has been back a couple of times and they didnt use it!
Andddd it’s gone
Gallifrey no more
1:21 does that time lord look like frank langella or is it just me
Hopefully the new years episode doesn't get delayed
They film it way before it’s due to air. Don’t worry it will be on New Year’s Day.
I like to think that the Untempered Schism was merely the first trial of many on the path to earning the rank of Time Lord. Perhaps the final would be to alter the timeline of the universe in a wholly positive way.
I had an idea for a Christmas episode, whereby a pre-renegade Doctor faces his final task (sacred territory, I know). Basically, it's just It's A Wonderful Life meets Doctor Who, with the Doctor showing a suicidal man an alternate timeline if he were never born. To earn his halo, or so he says (his Time Lord robes and collar, in actuality.)
I heavily doubt that changing history would be part of academy trials, especially considering that the Timelords swore never to interfere with history (unless it was the CIA doing it that is)
The one person who disliked this is not cultured
Best comment ever! You work for torchwood!? Aaah..
"In HD" *watches in 480p*
i want chips now
wait the vortex is the same from the intro ...HOLD UP
So after all this time Gallifrey wasn’t really gone but then the Master destroyed it?
I love this scene! It’s a shame! The new doctor who series just f**ked it up! The writer and the feel and theme of Doctor who just isn’t the same since Peter left which is such a shame! She is a good doctor just the show isn’t the same!
mmmm fish and chips XD anyone heard the story john barrowman tol about exactely this scene? they got rather sick after this having to eat this stuff in every take they had to do
We need tennant back for 60th anniversary and the next doctor after Jodie to be similar and have the music that the tennant era had. It’s the best type of DW
Wish granted mate
МОЙ ЛЮБИМЫЙ СЕРИАЛ
How powerful are the Time Lords?
As powerful as gods
Turns out not that powerful. They’ve got really powerful technology but they’re really sneaky about it’s usage and they just spend most of their time playing politics with one another
They seemed to be at their strongest in their first appearance in _The War Games._
Pog
Why would you get rid of Matt doing the sonic fun time
cool
Pray for Croatia, there was a big earthquake, a lot of damage... 😭😭
The most random thing to post on doctor who
Probably not an idea to remind us how much better previous showrunners treated Gallifrey before we go back to Chibbers on Friday...
What ep is that of Dr who
Please tell me your joking.
Abraços do BRAZIL
Ahh, the time when Gallifrey was cool. Then came the Chibnall-
Do you mean cool in temperature or cool like bow ties? Because both work really
It was only ever cool if you completely ignored the classics
The War Games made the time lords terrifying.
But then The Deadly Assassin and Trial of a Time Lord made them not terrifying at all...
The Time Lords were best done when the information we had about them was limited.
Ik. The beginning of new who restored them. Then Steven Moffat made them weak again, then Chris Chibnall completely ruined them.
The music is so great in this, I miss the character development and the grittiness of Doctor Who.
I can't wait to not watch the show tomorrow, looking forward to read the reviews though. I'm glad the channel is reminiscing on the times when the show was actually good.
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It's all fun until you get to stare at something at age 8. I am telling you that is no way to grow a child. I would love to have 2 hearts but I am not a fan of becoming mad.
We all know now that the Doctor is NOT a timelord from Galifrey. Originally born as a young girl, she was a senitant being with unlimited regenerative ability from another dimension. She was discovered by a traveler from Galifrey. From there the traveler continually forced the child to regenerate until discovering the base code for regeneration. This was then planted in all the Timelords with the ability restriced to 13.
Also known as terrible fanfiction by Chibnall.
P.S.
This scene is from the times before it was introduced.
Timelord is not a species, it’s a rank. Most Timelords are Gallifreyan but there have been one or two instances of non Gallifreyans becoming Timelords
The Doctor is still a Time Lord, just not originally Gallifreyan. She was still raised on Gallifrey and that is the only life she had ever known, so in a sense she can still claim she’s from Gallifrey although not being born there.
@@chilean395 I also thought about that. I still hope to hear "I know exactly who i am. Maybie i am not from Gallifrrey, but i know exactly, that Gallifrey will always be my home..." in the end of Series 13
Chibnall ruined galleifrey
Lol. This is funny Now we know that the timelords are frauds
They can't be called frauds, because, if to judge by the current "canon", only founders of Time Lord society knew about the Timeless Child. Other Gallifreyans ans eventually Time Lord saw this as just an "invention". So basically, all of them had no idea.
@@deferguard7748 I have a feeling people like The one and the monk knew about it
I prefer not to think about the timeless child plot, too many plot holes.
I prefer to see them as a noble race lead by a man the was resurrected and then poisoned by war, seeing and observing all of time and space.
They always were. As the sixth doctor described: “The oldest civilisation: decadent, degenerate, and rotten to the core.”
@@MichaelO2000 acord fandom, six doctor are trash, so I prefer this video
I miss the older series,they were actually good. Better than dr.nasty and her diversity hires.
Now its just Doctor Who Cares travelling in the Retardis in a Waste of Time and Space. Rip 1963-2017
Chibnall has destroyed doctor who. So sad to see such a wonderful show fall so far.
Go woke Go broke.
I mean, it died a few seasons before Chibnall.
Go woke go broke? That’s what you think the problem is? Fucking christ
this is dr who
not whatever it is now
1963-17
Omg get over. It didnt end.
It's literally a) an attempt to virtue-signal and, more insidiously, b) to promote mental illness as some kind of badge of honor, something that makes you uniquely sensitive and special, thus enfeebling society when too many people fall for it. I totally reject the idea that mental disorders are something to aspire to / share with others. I'm not trying to downplay the pain or medical significance of a mental illness, but I cannot stand the postmodern idea that sharing it with anyone outside of your immediate family somehow alleviates it, and endears you to people. It doesn't.
Doctor who is garbage
Wrong place to say this bud
Look what they've done to our boy 😭. How far things have fallen. Hoping NYE restores my hope for this show
You're weird
@@hothemeep1219 ok I'm weird. Now what ?