This was awesome. As a religious raestake watcher, it’s great to see this link up. Justin is really showing how great a guy he is. How he moved on 🇯🇲for racers is testament to that fact. Respect to all the lovers and followers of tnf. This was worth the 1hr 48mins
When Rae talked about bringing agents into the mix more I was reminded of the Peter Bol case here in Australia. When Bol's sample returned a positive for EPO his agent James Templeton insisted on attending the testing of his B sample. Bol was cleared on the basis of the B sample testing. One thing the panel doesn't mention is that being named a drug cheat and being suspended for a short period as Bol was could be enough to derail someone's career. In 2021 at the Tokyo Olympics Peter Bol ran 4th in the 800m. He was probably the most famous track and field athlete in Australia at the time. He was suspended in January 2023. He was cleared soon after but the local doping authority continued to investigate for another 6 months and you've only got to look at his times and places since then to see he never came back from the mental and physical disruption caused by the allegations of doping.
Ion like how y’all are downplaying a 10.65 championship record. While it’s true someone from an outside lane can sneak in a win like Gatlin in 2017 but not with a 10.65! Even if they saw her Shericka and Shelly didn’t have sub 10.65 in their legs. Gatlin’s win was a 9.9 and it was a photo finish that’s different.
10.65 into a headwind too. Truly impressive. Shelly was there for the vibes tbh but shericka slept on herself. she was racing an injured shelly instead of the woman who was beating her all year in the 100.
@@Jjgunn72 Shelly ran 10.60 two seasons ago, she was also injured in 2023. Shericka ran 10.65 with a tailwind at the trials and never came close, Sha’Carri beat her every time they met before that final. So yea, Shericka and Shelly didn’t have sub 10.65 into a headwind in that final. They didn’t even come close.
@@Adam4954- yah what’s not going to happen? You didn’t answer anything. Also he is the second fastest 100m runner in the world by a lot. What facts or evidence do you have that would prove otherwise. Or are you just hating with no actual facts to back it up?
100% regarding T&F not evolving and fully agree with access to seeing meets online or for streaming. I literally just bought Peacock fully knowing the olympics will be airing on that platform….Rae you wrong about the steeplechase and 5k about ppl walking out…smh😂😂😂. Can we get traction on my idea of GMT&F (Grown Men Track and Field) and GWT&F (Grown Women Track & Field)…i wanna see what all these retired pro athletes can run these days….shoot even include dads and moms who loves to run too!
Track is such a jealous and unforgiving sport (the people and the sport itself) as its so dependent on the athlete being there throught the whole process of training of competing in or to develop mentally and physically. Typically it's almost impossible for an athlete to return to their glory after 4 years of suspension to be completely honest. The remarkable achievements/milestones Gatlin was able to obtain will forever flag him as the greatest 'what if?' stories in track and field.
I don't know a lot about track, but I think what brought me to this channel is also a problem. A little over a year ago, my old boss, who used to run track for ohio state (old cool white guy) started talking to me about track because he knew I loved sports. He spent the majority of the conversation crapping on the sport, specifically calling out justin and flo jo. He even claimed that though bolt was never caught, everyone who has ran before knows he cheated as well. Regardless of how you feel about what my boss said, it was shocking to me to see someone who ran denigrate his sport like that to someone who literally only knew that bolt was the fastest man when he was in college lol. You hardley ever hear other atheletes (at any level) crapping on their greats, even the ones that cheated and commited even uglier crimes. For example, look at how mike tyson is revered for the most part. I'd much rather have my daughter bring home a justin type than a tyson type. And tyson gets so much love, whereas when I looked up justin videos, I would say it was 98% hate. When you build up those heroes, even ones that have setbacks, it builds the mystique of the whole sport. And most people love comeback stories anyway. It's sad how they treat track athletes. The good thing is, my boss telling me all that stuff made me want to check it out myself. And now I watch the pod and have started following track.
@@raestaketv lmao! It’s good to hear you TALK about track, live…And not have you defend the pedigree and the knowledge. Been following you for a while… never personally met. But excited for these moments here!
@@TheWillofWilliam i appreciate that. lol yea if you ever meet me in person you’ll see a huge difference as everyone else does when they actually meet me in person. RaesTake is a show. But it ain’t Rae.
Those long bans they gave athletes for substance use are killing the sport. While NBA, NFL, Boxing and MMA athletes slap on the wrist suspension for using the same substances.
10K subs soon come! Right now the subs are at 9.84, Sembiine and Donovan Bailey's PB. A sign that Donovan Bailey will be a guest soon and also Sembine! Speaking it into existence! 20K next!
Great conversation.... As far as track goes. The athletes need to be paid more across the board. The women are much more marketable than the men. Sydney Shecarri Athing the Jamaican 3 headed monster in Shelly Elaine and Sherika, Faith kipyegon and Hasan, Valerie Allman just to name a few are holding down track and field. Noah Lyles Mondo and crouser with a few others are the only ones that make a splash. The new wave of men sprinters are so inconsistent and have dry personalities. I like that they are using Noah to drive the machine. He'll need a world record though to be fully embraced
I'm guessing these guy have people that guide them on what to take and how long they should take it. They probably either test any supplements the athlete takes or they tell the athlete to avoid supplements. You would never suspect Gatorade would be putting illegal substances into their products though. That caught them off guard. There should definitely be a big lawsuit either way.
Yah can't be serious man. go talk to your friends who went to school for this. 1 the drug he tested for synthetic and not legal in the USA. made in a specific lab. you don't aciidently cross contaminated with eh drug. 2 when they tested his gummies the outside of it was tested positive not in the inside. so they weren't manufactured like that. 3 that complete blew up any argument for cross contaminated.
Too many track meets are broadcasted at the wrong time. Why not have prime time track meets under the lights??? Need a major network like NBC to have full rights to the meets. And will broadcast them at a prime time. Run at night
In la Abby ran 22.32 and Brittney brown 22.35 they were close don't sleep on Brittney she is silver medalist in 2019 and made the final in 100 last year Brittney also beat a loaded field in Oslo please do your research
There’s faster young kids. But not all in usa. China 🇨🇳 has a 10.15 17 year old. And a 400 kid running. 45.53. Also Australia has a high school kid. Running . 10.16
Im not with the segment about switching countries. I like to see a patriotic raise up to represent his country on the big stage. Having an athlete brought in to running for your country would not help build a culture behind the sport in said country.
Olympics generated more than a billion dollars and Olympians get crumbs.... They get crumbs because the leadership still consider it an amateur sport. Top tier Battle rappers get paid more to battle than most athletes get for first place Track and field has to become more than an elitist sport. Every quarterback in the NFL gets coverage even the ones that aren't good. There is too big of a gap between the first and second place in track and field at the pro level. Everyone in a championship final needs to have big publicity.
I wanna feel bad for him but then again...when Justin was 17-18 they gave him a ban for not declaring ADHD medicine......so Asinga he be aiight...you tough right? Lol For the record: i think he or his handlers intentuonalky took it or gave it to him 🤷🏽♂️
Sprinter are showcasing the potential of the human body, through hard work. They don't do that in basketball or football, if athletes cheat they are going against everything the sport stands for so 4 years or more is not harsh a punishment.
If sprinting was truly a showcase of what the human body is capable of then enhanced athletes would be allowed. And if you think everyone at that level isn't already enhanced in some way or believe that enhancements replace hard work, then it's clear you know nothing about track and field.
@MrHurdleking24 justin gatlin, marion jones, tyson gay, lashawn Merritt etc...usa catches and bans their own....jamaica and these other countries don't drug test anywhere near as stringent as usa
@@Mr100kaday you can’t run 3 rounds at the USA champs and call it a fluke lmfaooo. Out of her top 10 11.03 is her slowest. She got 7 sub 10,s she ran 10.9 this year lmfaooo
Carl lewis was overrated on the track. In my opinion, he was average. He dominated somewhat in the 80s that was known for drug use. In his overall career, he achieved more in the long jump.
100 gold in 1984, 100 gold in 1987 ,200 gold in 1984, 100 gold in 1988,200 silver in 1988, 100 gold in 1991 with a wr? Thats average. Other than bolt qho else has these numbers? Plus relays? Come on
Been looking forward to this crossover!
This was awesome. As a religious raestake watcher, it’s great to see this link up. Justin is really showing how great a guy he is. How he moved on 🇯🇲for racers is testament to that fact. Respect to all the lovers and followers of tnf. This was worth the 1hr 48mins
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Its why Gat was at Asafa's house downing some nice oxtail and cracking jokes.
Wait till Crayvon Charleston show up out of nowhere and make that team again
The legend!!! Jackkkkkk in the building!!!
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This was a great episode! You guys definitely need to be in charge of the sport, yall have great ideas! Also get this guy back as a guest!!!
A Spectacular conversation!
I love RAE but so far I have never seen his predictions to actually happen….. so far they were wrong 🤷🏽♀️
😂😂😂 that’s cold blooded lol! But I love you too!
He's drunk most of the time lol
When Rae talked about bringing agents into the mix more I was reminded of the Peter Bol case here in Australia. When Bol's sample returned a positive for EPO his agent James Templeton insisted on attending the testing of his B sample. Bol was cleared on the basis of the B sample testing. One thing the panel doesn't mention is that being named a drug cheat and being suspended for a short period as Bol was could be enough to derail someone's career. In 2021 at the Tokyo Olympics Peter Bol ran 4th in the 800m. He was probably the most famous track and field athlete in Australia at the time. He was suspended in January 2023. He was cleared soon after but the local doping authority continued to investigate for another 6 months and you've only got to look at his times and places since then to see he never came back from the mental and physical disruption caused by the allegations of doping.
Ion like how y’all are downplaying a 10.65 championship record. While it’s true someone from an outside lane can sneak in a win like Gatlin in 2017 but not with a 10.65! Even if they saw her Shericka and Shelly didn’t have sub 10.65 in their legs. Gatlin’s win was a 9.9 and it was a photo finish that’s different.
Yelp I agreed...she still would have ran right by them like she did the whole year.
10.65 into a headwind too. Truly impressive. Shelly was there for the vibes tbh but shericka slept on herself. she was racing an injured shelly instead of the woman who was beating her all year in the 100.
You are totally incorrect. Shelly has ran 10.60 and Shericka 10.65…..
@@Jjgunn72 Shelly ran 10.60 two seasons ago, she was also injured in 2023. Shericka ran 10.65 with a tailwind at the trials and never came close, Sha’Carri beat her every time they met before that final. So yea, Shericka and Shelly didn’t have sub 10.65 into a headwind in that final. They didn’t even come close.
Four years is too long. The ban is warranted because he couldn’t prove that the gummies were tampered with.
This must have been made before the Jamaican GP because Noah is definitely winning the 100 and 200
Noah will not double at the 2024 Olympic Trials.
@@JackDamjien77 why do you believe that? Has he said that?
Yea that aint gonna happen, i could see him not winning either honestly
@@Adam4954- yah what’s not going to happen? You didn’t answer anything. Also he is the second fastest 100m runner in the world by a lot. What facts or evidence do you have that would prove otherwise. Or are you just hating with no actual facts to back it up?
Stop dreaming Yohan Blake will smoke Noah lyles at Paris Olympics
You gotta love Rae, what you see is what you Get
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Another great pod from the team
Finally!!!!!! Been waiting for Ray to be on the show!
Rae and Justin on one platform, it got me!
Rae went on the boys podcast and hit em with a Hi YAH with them takes. Im happy for the crossover
The assinga story is really heartbreaking
Idk. Seems sus
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You guys are hilarious 😂😂😂
MY BOY RAE IN THE BUIDLDING! 😎
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Someone need to send this to Ms. Tara…
Yea ppl don’t realize Rae was actually a really good pro
@@certifiedchaos4643I appreciate that 🤘🏿
i see it. hun
So no one mentioning Jameesha Ford ( I might be spelling her name wrong) but she is fire this season.
100% regarding T&F not evolving and fully agree with access to seeing meets online or for streaming. I literally just bought Peacock fully knowing the olympics will be airing on that platform….Rae you wrong about the steeplechase and 5k about ppl walking out…smh😂😂😂. Can we get traction on my idea of GMT&F (Grown Men Track and Field) and GWT&F (Grown Women Track & Field)…i wanna see what all these retired pro athletes can run these days….shoot even include dads and moms who loves to run too!
Big up yuself Justin 🇯🇲.You are a well respected former athlete and track star and your history speaks for itself.Nuff love
Track is such a jealous and unforgiving sport (the people and the sport itself) as its so dependent on the athlete being there throught the whole process of training of competing in or to develop mentally and physically. Typically it's almost impossible for an athlete to return to their glory after 4 years of suspension to be completely honest.
The remarkable achievements/milestones Gatlin was able to obtain will forever flag him as the greatest 'what if?' stories in track and field.
Leroy was actually the Head coach at UH.
When the top track podcast collab
22:42 i think *the master forgetting more than the student could ever learn* is better fitting
I don't know a lot about track, but I think what brought me to this channel is also a problem. A little over a year ago, my old boss, who used to run track for ohio state (old cool white guy) started talking to me about track because he knew I loved sports. He spent the majority of the conversation crapping on the sport, specifically calling out justin and flo jo. He even claimed that though bolt was never caught, everyone who has ran before knows he cheated as well. Regardless of how you feel about what my boss said, it was shocking to me to see someone who ran denigrate his sport like that to someone who literally only knew that bolt was the fastest man when he was in college lol. You hardley ever hear other atheletes (at any level) crapping on their greats, even the ones that cheated and commited even uglier crimes. For example, look at how mike tyson is revered for the most part. I'd much rather have my daughter bring home a justin type than a tyson type. And tyson gets so much love, whereas when I looked up justin videos, I would say it was 98% hate. When you build up those heroes, even ones that have setbacks, it builds the mystique of the whole sport. And most people love comeback stories anyway. It's sad how they treat track athletes. The good thing is, my boss telling me all that stuff made me want to check it out myself. And now I watch the pod and have started following track.
1:22:37 He forgot to say "ninja" instead of the N WORD this time
I really dig the whole agent being a mediator guy
That's a great idea
Naw, that Freshman from South Carolina?!?! She looked TOO SMOOTH
I MET JUSTIN AT PRAIRIE VIEW IN HOUSTON BACK IN 2021
RAE blowing up!
Rae’s TAKE stop celebrating Christmas.
LET'S GO!!
Did I hear right, Gat was coached by Coach Hob fr a time?
Bout time Rae can talk and not be hollering 2 damn hours😅😅😅😅
Rae does that for views he’s actually mellow and chill
lol right! Be going horse and s*** on my show
@@raestaketv lmao! It’s good to hear you TALK about track, live…And not have you defend the pedigree and the knowledge. Been following you for a while… never personally met. But excited for these moments here!
@@TheWillofWilliam i appreciate that. lol yea if you ever meet me in person you’ll see a huge difference as everyone else does when they actually meet me in person. RaesTake is a show. But it ain’t Rae.
@@raestaketv understood.
Those long bans they gave athletes for substance use are killing the sport. While NBA, NFL, Boxing and MMA athletes slap on the wrist suspension for using the same substances.
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10K subs soon come! Right now the subs are at 9.84, Sembiine and Donovan Bailey's PB. A sign that Donovan Bailey will be a guest soon and also Sembine! Speaking it into existence!
20K next!
Donovan has his own boring podcast.
Great conversation.... As far as track goes. The athletes need to be paid more across the board. The women are much more marketable than the men. Sydney Shecarri Athing the Jamaican 3 headed monster in Shelly Elaine and Sherika, Faith kipyegon and Hasan, Valerie Allman just to name a few are holding down track and field. Noah Lyles Mondo and crouser with a few others are the only ones that make a splash. The new wave of men sprinters are so inconsistent and have dry personalities. I like that they are using Noah to drive the machine. He'll need a world record though to be fully embraced
Crown is a blended Whiskey. NOT Cognac.
Bring Rae Back after trials
😂 I got to. Gotta stand on my picks 🏄🏿♂️!
I'm guessing these guy have people that guide them on what to take and how long they should take it. They probably either test any supplements the athlete takes or they tell the athlete to avoid supplements. You would never suspect Gatorade would be putting illegal substances into their products though. That caught them off guard. There should definitely be a big lawsuit either way.
23:30 Leroy's been coaching much longer than Carl. Leroy's the Nick Saban.
Yah can't be serious man.
go talk to your friends who went to school for this.
1 the drug he tested for synthetic and not legal in the USA. made in a specific lab. you don't aciidently cross contaminated with eh drug.
2 when they tested his gummies the outside of it was tested positive not in the inside. so they weren't manufactured like that.
3 that complete blew up any argument for cross contaminated.
Coleman could win the 100
He would be 23 when he comes back from his ban
22 ,he served time last year ,he didn't compete because of it
@@RodriqueMcbean I thought his ban started this year, but in that case damn...
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YESSSSIR RAAEEE
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Did Ray just say the only person that was next to Sydney McLaughlin that 200 was Abby? Unbelievable
I was drinking on this show 😂
@@raestaketv Great work Rae. I was talking about Brittany Brown. She was real close to her as well. 👋🏾
@@27baltimore yelp I thought Brittany got second in LA.
Abby over gabby i thought that too
Too many track meets are broadcasted at the wrong time. Why not have prime time track meets under the lights???
Need a major network like NBC to have full rights to the meets. And will broadcast them at a prime time. Run at night
4 years is too much for a ban
Dont sleep on Cravont Charleston.
In la Abby ran 22.32 and Brittney brown 22.35 they were close don't sleep on Brittney she is silver medalist in 2019 and made the final in 100 last year Brittney also beat a loaded field in Oslo please do your research
28:04 His name is Zachaeus Beard‼️‼️
The USA 100m trial is going to be serious!
There’s faster young kids. But not all in usa. China 🇨🇳 has a 10.15 17 year old. And a 400 kid running. 45.53. Also Australia has a high school kid. Running . 10.16
Man Noah winning every race nobody touching that man in the 200 no disrespect to Kenny but lol Noah is Noah for a reason
Hobbs has made world finals bro
Im not with the segment about switching countries. I like to see a patriotic raise up to represent his country on the big stage. Having an athlete brought in to running for your country would not help build a culture behind the sport in said country.
Olympics generated more than a billion dollars and Olympians get crumbs.... They get crumbs because the leadership still consider it an amateur sport. Top tier Battle rappers get paid more to battle than most athletes get for first place Track and field has to become more than an elitist sport. Every quarterback in the NFL gets coverage even the ones that aren't good. There is too big of a gap between the first and second place in track and field at the pro level. Everyone in a championship final needs to have big publicity.
AND HIS 100m MALE PREDICTION WAS CORRECT
No athlete has ever tried to cheat. Just ask them.
I wanna feel bad for him but then again...when Justin was 17-18 they gave him a ban for not declaring ADHD medicine......so Asinga he be aiight...you tough right? Lol
For the record: i think he or his handlers intentuonalky took it or gave it to him 🤷🏽♂️
Basically....draft black athletes...
Sprinter are showcasing the potential of the human body, through hard work. They don't do that in basketball or football, if athletes cheat they are going against everything the sport stands for so 4 years or more is not harsh a punishment.
If sprinting was truly a showcase of what the human body is capable of then enhanced athletes would be allowed. And if you think everyone at that level isn't already enhanced in some way or believe that enhancements replace hard work, then it's clear you know nothing about track and field.
If he ran for the U.S. he wouldn't be banned.
That's not true at all...the USA has caught and banned their own biggest stars over the years....
Agreed
Like how Coleman Justin Randolph Ross Tyson gay shacri Mike rogers weret ban right?
@MrHurdleking24 justin gatlin, marion jones, tyson gay, lashawn Merritt etc...usa catches and bans their own....jamaica and these other countries don't drug test anywhere near as stringent as usa
@@m43854Of course you have to mention jamaica right. Jamaican domination living rent free in your head. 🤣🤣🤣
Kenny is not making the 100 team. Hell he’d be lucky to make the 200!
Mellisa has no chance
Stop it
@@MrHurdleking24 u know she an 11.1 chick. That 10.6w was a fluke. She will not make this team. Mark my words
@@Mr100kaday you can’t run 3 rounds at the USA champs and call it a fluke lmfaooo.
Out of her top 10 11.03 is her slowest. She got 7 sub 10,s she ran 10.9 this year lmfaooo
@@MrHurdleking24 well we see how she ran at worlds. Lol. Come on man. Yall be ignoring the stats and facts. She has no chance and you know it
@@Mr100kaday how can she be a 11.1 girl if her worst time average is 11.03, she got a 10.9 11.03 this year. She got a shot lol
Lol
Boring
@@cosmicwisdom999?
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Leave the Rae dude with the Kevin Hart cheesy comedy act 😅
Carl lewis was overrated on the track. In my opinion, he was average. He dominated somewhat in the 80s that was known for drug use. In his overall career, he achieved more in the long jump.
100 gold in 1984, 100 gold in 1987 ,200 gold in 1984, 100 gold in 1988,200 silver in 1988, 100 gold in 1991 with a wr? Thats average. Other than bolt qho else has these numbers? Plus relays? Come on
Also don't forget he woulda blown the 200m out of the water if not for the slow down.
Rae talk too much - don’t bring him back
Yohan Blake will run sub 10 sec 100m next month mark my words
Yohan Blake hasn’t run sub 10 since that false start 9.95 he ran in Georgia a few seasons ago.
He will break 11 seconds every time.
@@briangibson94 he ran 9.85 at jamaica trials in 2022
@@briangibson94He ran 9:85 after I think
@@JackDamjien77 stop disrespecting bro Yohan Blake he will smoke Noah lyles and other guys at Paris Olympics