Deutekom Troyanos NORMA Live
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Cristina Deutekom, despite her somewhat strange (but rather amusing) mannerisms and slight pitch problems offers an effective Norma, with stunning tops (listen to that high D at the end!) and more vocal color than usual. Troyanos is, as always a luscious sounding and sensitive Adalgisa. Recorded live at the San Francisco Opera House 31 October, 1973
I saw Deutekom in person three times: one a concert, the second time singing I PURITANI in Hartford, CT opposite Pierre Duval, third time singing I VESPRI SICILIANI at the Met. She had NO pitch problems. What you are hearing are the unbelievable overtones of that voice. A Philips recording engineer once said that she was the hardest singer he ever recorded; he had to set bafflers up around her to keep the voice from bouncing off the walls and ceiling. In person you heard it all, and she was both on pitch and immensely thrilling (despite her portly frame and lack of acting ability).
every now and then just under the note like around 2:14 thru 2:36 4:17 thru 4:43
the way she sings "Vanne, si, mi lascia indegno!" is just so so wonderful. her voice is so well coordinated, you don't even know when she switches to chest voice until way later, and both registers sound powerful and projected. but above all, i can hear the emotion. she truly sounds angry and assertive, and she delivers it with so much power. i have yet to hear anyone do it better than her.
One could say anything about Deutekom except that she had pitch problems. It is in fact obvious in all her (in-famous) glottal coloratura in how distinctly precise her pitch was and throughout her very well developed registers.
I have never heard her even shake on a high note, up to her Retirement concert and even later on in the masterclass videos.
She was perfectly appoggiata with an iron diaphragm.
....and often slightly flat
Acacia Bloom do point out exactly on which notes then ;)
@@gianerajohn436 every now and then just under the note like around 2:14 thru 2:36 4:17 thru 4:43
Gotta love those huge dramatic voices of the past!!! She's musically clawing Pollione to shreds! What a performance!
Who'd have thought Deutekom the ideal Norma!?! No doubt Troyanos owned the role of Adalgisa ... Tremendous!
Certainly more ideal than Sills ,Devia ,Sass,& Caballe.Deutecom had lot of power
BRAVA Cristina! I did not know she had performed Norma and bow my head in shame, it is lovely!!!!!!!!
Fantástica!!! Deutekom es una de las grandes Norma's del siglo XX
Love the way she colors her voice for this role. Thanks for sharing.
Unforgettable voice in the role of Norma.
Amazing duet with Tatiana Troyanos another opera mezzo with her timbre and phrasing when singing their roles.
From Santiago of Chile
2016
Ce sont les deux chanteuses que j'admire le plus. Deutekom par sa force et sa sûreté dans sa voix surhumaine. Sa déchirure est très émouvante.Quelle voix magnifique! Et Troyanos par la douceur de velours dans sa voix. Je crois que c'est la plus jolie voix parmi les mezzos.
When one is so generous with aplomb, power, stamina and pure voice as Deutekom, why would you point out something as trivial as "pitch problems" in one or two notes during a live performance? If they wouldn't have been there, it would have been perfect. And nothing is more boring than perfection. I'll take excitement over perfection on any given day.
this is over the top opera like its supposed to be!!! Deutekom was no slouch thats for sure
This was a shared production with the Lyric of Chicago where I saw her. She was stunning.
I think you are right that there s more excitement when they sing live!
Mamma mia! Bravissima!
This is heaven o my Lord
Maravillosa cristina,la fortuna de cantar con ella en los 80,i puritani ,Nabucco ,trovador y lucia
exciting brave amazing reckless but utterly gripping!
To set the record straight: In this trio there are obviously no pitch problems - I didnt say there were. I was refering to the rest of the recording whcih I have. I chose the trio to post BECAUSE it was so good and exciting.
The tenor has a very rich voice! Never heard of him before, though.
MARAVILLOSAS VOCES
I saw Deutekom as Norma at the Lyric in Chicago. Rather like Callas, the acoustics of the house softened the somewhat distinctive glottal technique that she used at times in the fioratura. I say this having heard Callas once in her final tour but also having heard recordings in the acoustic of a theater when attending the play "Master Class". In that case as well the theater acoustic changed what is often described as flaws in the voice or strangeness of the technique.
Maybe the choice of words is a little off?Amusing.mannerisms and the problem with pitch.I think this is a stunning recording.Thank you for posting.
Top notch.
I have to say I am still undecided about her voice.....hmmm MORE YOUTUBING!!!
thanks for telling me it was Merola!!!
Why post something as great as the amazing duo of Deutekom and Troyanos only to give your disparaging 2 cents which completely overlooks the fact that NO ONE sang like Cristina Deutekom!
Roberto Merola - the cast and conductor are in the run-in to the video
His name is Robleto.
do you have the rest of this performance?
@tneprescintr Yes, I have the rest of this performance but I don't know how to posting up here, sorry. Maybe you coul help me? I'm happy to got this CD. When I'm sad, i hear that and quickly i feel me better!!!!
iskenderuna I give you a kiss you do not want, hehehe, it is something as human can be and Troyanos who is the tenor is he giacomini???
wonderful singing!! Who's the tenor?
Matthew Cervenka I
He’s Roberto Merolla, who shortly after this performance was named the world’s best tenor of the year. Of all the versions of this trio that I have heard, I like this the best because of his strong voice that beautifully complements those of the ladies.
@@anncline5469His name is Robleto Merolla.
live the singers alone they are the best ok and listen or go sit on whatever you want hehehehe
Sort of off topic but if this is the SF performance, did you know Deutekom was a substitute for Caballe (who cancelled her run of performances).
I had no idea! Thank you for that information!
no Roberto Merola :)
Acacia Bloom that would be Robleto Merolla, Italian tenor.
The sound is a bit odd. Much brightness and it almost sounds like they have a caprino in their voices.
is giacomini?
I love deutekom, but the D was flat.
okay i'm not the only person who noticed. surprising given how extensive her top was
Yikes..!!!..It's the one and only opera Turkey Lady Deutekom herself.
What do you mean? This was amazing! True dramatic coloratura and perfect musical line...