Your eMTB is now obsolete... Meet the all new Orbea Rise
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
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0:00 Chapters
0:51 Jenson USA
1:53 Rise Gen 1 and 2
4:13 Rise Gen 3 (this bike)
5:33 Rise Details
6:02 Batteries
6:50 Ride impressions
9:25 Criticisms
12:24 Comparison: Pivot Shuttle SL
13:05 Comparison: Cannondale Moterra SL
13:34 Concluding thoughts - Фільми й анімація
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My sister is #1 wheelie rider in all of Kazakhstan!!
Cheers Borat!
155mm cranks are my new jam
your manuals are insane dude!
Thanks man!
This bike honestly reminds me of how much I like my older Transition Repeater. The Shimano motor and 630wh battery makes the bike one of the lighter full power ebikes. I also have 2 batteries and can quickly swap them out if I do a bunch of vert in turbo. I’ve owned both generations of the Repeater and highly recommend the older Shimano version. The SRAM system is going through some early gen growing pains, and the Shimano version feels quicker and slightly more fun.
Great review and pushing hard the test 🤙! No Alloy version of this new Rise though ?
Monaco wheelie. Love that record. Good job nice bike nice video Jeff.
Nice - cant wait to get my new Rise :D
Kudos for mentioning previous issues with the rear end/linkage. #honestreview. It's a bit of a shame, as other than that, I really like my Occam and the new Rise sounds great. We'll see how the Rise holds up.
Yep, the upper pivot left a lot to be desired on the previous version. The cascade link made it a much better bike and so worth the $.
Well said about cycling being a form of expression! It's not all aobut the distance and elevation numbers.
Yeah and the quality of descending matters more to me than the sheer amount of it. Thanks Frotto!
Can we just stop with the headset cable routing... Sick riding and awesome super informative review!
yes Orbea went all in with this routing, that's the reason I did not replace my Oiz with the new geo last year.
Qué buen video Jeff! Qué bien te lo pasaste eh!! haha!!
My Timp Peak is 48# and rides like a dream!
perfect review
Ughhh Rise will still have to throw something better to replace my Pivot Shuttle SL, that bike is just mint👩🍳👌 60NM motor is more than enough and it's soooo optimal and quiet! I'm hyped for Rise but it's not enough to replace it yet and on top of that we are comparing Shuttle SL to Rise LT, so it's an unfair comparison!
Defiantly going in the right direction.
I never heard rallon or fazua pronounced either of the ways you did 🤣 Great review Jeff.
Watched this at work today (not signed in) so I popped in to give you all the praise. Cheers Jeff!
Thanks Michael !!
Obsolescence? There happens to be a bike that's been around since 2019, built based on the same idea as the Orbea. Full power, yet light and quick handling. The Fezzari, now Ari Wire peak. Yup, the old Fezzari has a flip chip, too, and yes, the rear shock can be swapped for 150 mm with a 160 fork.
I just can't see the true "future tech" here? 10 lbs of weight? Pick up a 10 lb dumb bell, and ask yourself, does this equal the cost difference? Reckon weight in gold...
thanks for that. have you tried the light mondrakers ?
@JeffKendallWeed the first few chapter tags are from the gravel race vid :)
My bad, they're all from the gravel race vid!
@@markdunne818 Just tried to fix it, thanks Mark!
I have a '24 Wild M10 with a 170mm fork and just got an EXT e-Storia shock for it. It's one of _the_ best bikes I've ever ridden. I have a Megatower V2, had an Oso, and while I still had the Oso I demo'ed a Wild and some buddies demo'ed some Rise's and we rode south mountain. Hands down the Wild was the one to have. I put an order in for one a few months later and with the smaller 625Wh battery. I'm surprised you haven't ridden one yet or really even talked about it, would like to hear your feedback.
Haven't ridden an Oso, or a Wild? Honestly, neither of them seem too interesting to me. Both are 50lb bikes and don't really have any advantages, either power or battery, over this Rise. I've been waiting for something like this Rise LT- 150/160 travel, plenty of battery (630 on the bike, simple 210 extender for 840 total), and ~42 lbs with DH tires.
42lbs for the top of the line...
Looks pretty sweet, try a transition relay.
Perhaps, tho this system is a step up from the Fazua that transition and pivot use.
Would love you to try the Heckler SL (it is fazua) but you loved the Bronson and the Heckler SL is the e-bike version.
You said in your vid it had some design had limitations. Just thought you should shred the relay. No one else have pushed that bike like you have. My first thing in an emtb isn't the motor, suspension, geo, stiffness, ect. come first.
It's not common for a manufacturer to keep making amazing bikes for so long.
Basically since the "new" 2019 Occam platform appeared, it just stayed asking the best bikes you could ride.
I would cherish the engineers if I was in charge!
Good job with the wheelie and the bike, Markel!!!
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Now...do i get a free bike?
LOL - "Un poco brutal con la bici!" 100% But that's what we need to see.
Been seriously considering the cannondale moterra sl.. do you have a review coming or planned for that bike? Love your reviews!
Unfortunately, I do not… It was a pretty brief day on the bike. It was also a size large and it was honestly a little bit big for me. Being so ridiculously slack was not a great experience. If I get a medium, I will consider doing a review.
@JeffKendallWeed yeah that head angle was the only thing making me hesitant on the bike, good to know on sizing since your about the same height as me. I work at a cannondale/trek/giant/salsa shop on the side so i can get a good price on one, just didnt know if it was worth selling my yt decoy for one, the 43 lbs full power bikes r tempting.. good to know the trend of the brands now is going that direction!
is the firmware on the older rise upgradable? it's basically the same motor - EP801, but detuned to use less power and thus, smaller battery, lighter weight. but the 2025 model added a new mode to take advantage of the 85nm of torque that EP801 has. will there be an upgrade for older rise owners to take advantage of what their motor could do?
this is the same formula that Giant is using - full power motor, smaller battery (>500wh), lighter bike.
its a free 1 minute unlock via smartphone app /bluetooth. worked from day one .never rode my gen 1 /gen 2 in low power.
Please can you please try get your hands on the Forestal Cyon
Good job with the wheelies, but no thanks on the HS routing.
Awesome Jeff!
Question: what are your brakes of choice currently? Both e-Bike and non e-Bike???
Thanks Keev! I have been really enjoying. Shimano breaks the last 10 or so years. They have sponsored me a couple times over that period, but even when I wasn’t sponsored by them, I still kept running those brakes. For me they are the best combination of affordable easy to work on reliable and powerful.
How’s the shimano motor noise? Did they fix it?
The headset spacer on the Orbea Wild is very sensitive and prone to breakage. I hope they changed it on the Rise. Brake has to be disconnected to replace the spacer. Also, the headset cable routing seems to create some very abrasive rubbing of the housing...
Does the motor still rattle? That’s my only gripe with orbea. Levo is dead silent in comparison. If they had fixed the rattle I might pick one up again
I’d say Specialized is the brand they all are trying to keep up with, not Orbea. I personally have a Giant and still enjoy it, even at 46lbs…full power and battery. I never ride boost mode, just trail or echo since it’s plenty of boost.
Specialized?! With their Low power, low battery capacity? No way. Glad you’re enjoying your Giant, but if you’ve got that bike down to 46, a Rise would be about 8lbs lighter, same power and battery, and a huge benefit- MUCH shorter chain stays! 440mm on the rise, most Giant eMTB are 455- big difference. Jumping will be a LOT easier with the shorter stays!
@@JeffKendallWeed true the stays are really long on the giant! I guess you’re talking about the lighter SLs.
Hello! great video with satisfying riding as always!
Could I get the place where you have been riding? If you cant say it, then somebody maaybe?
Or if anybody knows great trails in Spain, let me know please! Id love to ride there!
Can you review Dartmoor rocbird enduro frame thanks greetings from Philippines
"that's a shitter!" way to keep American tourist stereotypes alive, my man!!
Great review. You really think this bike sets a new standard? I've been watching a bunch of reviews and it just seems like more of the same now that everyone has good ebikes out now. I originally bought my Hydro Rise because it was a standout; better pedaling characteristics and, best of all, it looked the least like an ebike. But now, if I had to choose, and taking into consideration some of the quirks and issues I've had, I'll take a Levo SL or a Fuel eXe over the Rise any day. I was also kinda surprised by your comment that headset cable routing makes a bike more expensive. I just assumed that was a cost saving measure because you didn't have to add more holes or tubes to the mold to route them through the frame.
This new Rise has both double the power and double the battery of both the Levo SL and eXe…
They told us the headset bearing gets so much bigger it’s an extra 300 euros for them… I don’t believe that number 100%, but I doubt it’s any cheaper for them. I wanted to raise my bars, but guess what… the hesdset routing meant taller bars would need new dropper, shifter, and brake lines. Ugh.
@@JeffKendallWeed Good point. I spend a majority of my time in Eco mode, so the power output never even crossed my mind! But I think I'll sacrifice the power to have normal cable routing 😆
How did you get so good at wheelies?
So play in the Shimano motor is reduced, does that mean it still rattles like a bag of bolts?
No Shimano motor (or any other eMTB motor) has been horrifically rattly for me. The belt tension is something you can hear, but I don’t notice it while riding. It’s not super loud.
"That's a shiiter"😂😂😂😂
Hurricane reference!😂
COOL
Carbon toptubes squishing while being squeezed is a big no-no for me. Along with a Flexy frame at your weight. My 220lbs of mostly muscle is going to snap that bike in half
Almost every carbon bike has a zone like that, but it makes me hesitant to toss this bike haphazardly.. and considering how easy it is to crash on rough trails, it makes we wonder about durability. The bike was indeed stiff enough for me, but it's a trail bike, not an enduro rig. It felt balanced with the 36 fork. If a 36 is too noodly for you, consider a bike built around a 38 (and that will be > 50 lbs if you're looking at eMTB).
Their customer service for warranty claims is notoriously poor, often dragging on for months. Communication is inconsistent, leaving customers frustrated. Expect to foot the bill for any warranty-related problems. Their assembly quality is subpar, with incorrect fasteners and sloppy linkages. Don't count on them knowing how to properly build bikes. Brace yourself for a slew of issues with this new bike, and good luck navigating them with their Spanish head office.😑
How does it compare to the giant trance X elite?
Thanks!
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@@JeffKendallWeed what does that mean? 😭
😂
Markel, I also should hold a World Record for the shortest/most unimpressive wheelies in a lifetime (edited for correct spelling of Markel's name).
Markel also did an Everest while wheelie-ing!
@@JeffKendallWeed Unreal!
@@JeffKendallWeed 🤯
IDK why anyone is speccing cranks bigger than 165 on eMTBs these days... but very slick flip chip design. Are you filming with an Insta360 X3?
No Insta 360 for me, I just use GoPro hero 11/12.
It's odd that any bike just comes with stock 165mm cranks.. I feel like it should be S-155 M-160 L-165- XL-170. I ride 155 on a M but I would have been totally okay with 160 stock.. Apparently you need less reach and stack height but your legs don't get shorter lol..
Da hat die Bikeindustrie sich mal wieder selbst übertroffen. Vor Jahren haben sie einen Motor verkauft (EP8). Dann haben sie den gleichen Motor gedrosselt und teurer verkauft (EP8 Rs).
Jetzt verkaufen sie wieder den alten Motor, aber dafür teurer, weil sie sagen: „Wir verkaufen euch den alten Motor, aber haben ihn für euch gedrosselt. Weil ihr den alten Motor in gedrosselter Form ja gar nicht haben wollt, könnt ihr den aber entdrosseln, damit ihr wieder den alten Motor fahren könnt (EP RS+). Da ihr jetzt aber quasi wieder den alten EP8 fahren könnt, nehmen wir einen ordentlichen Preisaufschlag.“
Habe ich das so richtig zusammengefasst?
No hablo alemán…
My phone won’t write German, why do you think the world understands German?🤷♂️
Are you 8 years old?
Dang it. What to do with my first gen alloy rise?
That’s a great bike! Keep riding it? Or sell it and get one of these new and improved models? Both options are just fine.
@@JeffKendallWeedis the 42 lbs with the carbon model?
What does SL stand for? Super Luigi?
ST - Short travel(140mm), LT- Long travel(160/150mm) :)
Did anyone ask the Orbea folks during the launch why they keep pushing bikes with headset cable routing?
We all complain about it but we never really hear from the manufacturers why they choose to continue using that method when the consumers overwhelmingly dislike it.
I wouldn’t say overwhelming. It’s fine, you don’t even need to be a mechanic to reroute cables. It’s also not like most people would ever need to.
Orbea desde/since 1840
Pinion makes everything obsolete, forget derailleurs on ebikes already!!
all the french in the background hehe
Was this a review or a commercial
Headset cable routing....why?😂
I have the conspiracy theory that bike brands have a deal with local bike shops for implementing internal cable routing. (real[not real])
It's just unneeded complexity. Same with Canyon KIS.
Wouldn't a single wheel be enough for your riding style? :-)
Nice review ! Where in Spain are those trails ?
In the pyrenees.
@@JeffKendallWeed Any more clues ? Like name of the trail network or something ? Would highly appreciate :)
Ainsa is the closest town.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks man !
Your title is why I'm not considering buying an ebice since I sold the last one 😂
Congrats on selling your last one! Yeah this new Rise is so much better than any other eMTB I've ridden. Same weight and range as a bigger bike, but 10lbs lighter.
@@JeffKendallWeed "Same weight and range as a bigger bike, but 10lbs lighter." What?
Same weight but 10lbs lighter? COOL!
Nice one
Thanks!
the rise will be obsolete in 2025 too lol. 3 to 5 iterations and its just gearbox/motor units on majority of ebikes.
No background music please
Emtb vegan burning through boost mode vs carnivore fat tire big cap tank
Yes BUT. Cable routing through the headset. Nope. Not for me.
We can't ride motorized bikes in Idaho MTB trails. Just motorcycle trails
Good point..E-bikes should have thier own trails..
Why tho?
Ebike may outcompete regular bike on climbs, but they're only marginally more aggressive on trail integrity on descents when compare to any other Enduro or dh bike
@@thispodexactly like that, the only excuse to “ban” e-bikes in some trails is just envy and jealousy
@@thispod If they're outcompeting bikes on climbs that inherently means they are more aggressive on trail integrity because people can send 3 laps in the time that a person on a mountain bike can do 1. (These numbers are based on my local trails)
Heaven forbid people ride their bikes more
It’s sad that Orbea going to Shimano motors . Probably the worst decision they made.
??? All three generations of this bike have used the Shimano motor. It works great.
Whaaaaat?!?!? A dropper too long for JKW?!?!?😂 you 're going to have to make a video explaining yourself sir
The title is why i wont buy ebike. Obsolescence. Pedal bike basically unchanged last 10yrs
😂 my bike from 10 yrs ago is hot garbage compared to 2024
True AND the eBikes are epic fun!!
This comment is is so off that I gotta comment . Bruh, do you even ride .?😂😂😂😂😂😂
umm the definition of obsolescence is a “pedal” bike at over 200 years old…😂
Are you planning on keeping your bike for ten years? 😂
"The carbon top tube squishes" back in the bin it goes.
Your videos never disappoint! An EMTB is the way to ride in Spain.
Yeah for the rocky, steep terrain, the ebike is awesome
Morning vid
Cheers mate!!!
Yooo
Why are we here .. exactly..who cares ..ebikes are stupid.
But "THIS ONE" is making every other obsolete...
Don't know why or how but hey, it's in the title so it has to be true.
#neverebike
😂 this one is pretty sweet tho!
#noonecares
too small of a bike
$8600 to $13,000. That's that the Orbea Rise cost.
I can buy a full fledged NEW motorcycle that makes 125 horsepower to the wheel, does the quarter mile in the 10's, would be stone-axe reliable, for less than the top model eMTB.
Just wait till later in the year, I recently bought the 2023 model for 30% off. Assuming you don't need the latest and greatest right this minute
Yeah, but if you buy a motorcycle, you can’t take it mountain biking.
@@JeffKendallWeed Yeah, I miss cranking pedals when I'm throwing sparks of a knee slider.
Clearly not an mtb rider. So why bother posting?
That's great, if you want to participate in a completely different sport... There is a lot of things you can buy with 12k... If you don't find the value in this one, that's okay but comparing them is pretty absurd and it's brought up all the time.