PCV Oil Seperator (Correct style of "Breather") DO NOT DELETE | AnthonyJ350
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- We install an oil separator for or 2005 Chevy Silverado with a 4.8L V8. There are a lot of videos out there that tell people to delete their provisions and run a breather. That is not recommended because you may send false readings to the MAF sensor as you're letting unmetered air into the engine because you're bypassing the MAF. Watch the video where we show you can keep the PCV system closed and still be able to remove oil from the system to keep your intake manifold clean.
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Good video!!
Thanks so much Tracy! Means a lot coming from you.
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Just got mine in the mail today. Modified a cathedral intake I found NEW finally from EBay. Closed the EGR with kit and plumbed this catch for pcv fresh air! Thank you sir!
Nice!
Clean setup, I was just thinking about running a 2nd catch can for the passenger side as I am trying to solve the issue of oil being sucked into my intake to the throttle body
Thank you! You can definitely do that if you would like and have the room. The throttle body side only gets used under W.O.T.
Drill extra oil drain holes on the inside of your valve covers. Be sure to shop vac and blow all the metal shavings out before reinstalling. Crazed Performance channel has a decent video on it.
Question.. why not two catch cans? Wouldn’t it be bettter to catch all the fuel and oil mixture instead of letting it drip back into the valve cover? I’m trying to decide between two catch cans or catch can and this product.
You can, this was just easier to install.
@@AnthonyJ350 yea I’ve been over thinking it. I don’t want to barb the intake pipe. I’d rather catch all the gunk and route to the intake
I've got there three port, and I wanted clean side, but I have Holley high rise valve covers.
Do you have a video to show the clearance issue?
Never seen anyone do this I wondered why not?
No one really seems to make a product like this.
So then I wouldn't need to cap off valve cover port just run oil cap seperator and valve body port to a T barb but then putting a inline filter before T barb on valve body side then both would go to the T then into the TB breather port or would this cause problems?
This video might help ua-cam.com/video/iSzU-cvlLO8/v-deo.html
Can you make a video on how to install the barb fitting into intake tube
I'll try to if I ever do an install for someone.
Literally what I need to do now on my 6.0 is install the barb. I believe I'm going to order this kit
Is this the CSS1 kit?
Do you have a link?
Will it be ok to connect the fresh air hose to a vacuum line? Or does it have to be in front of the throttle body???
I just replicate how the manufacturer does it.
@@AnthonyJ350 ok. I'm boosted. So I'm thinking if I connect to stock location. It will force air into the valve cover...
@@lylegoodluck How is it plumbed currently?
@AnthonyJ350 I just finished my build. I didn't know where to connect it so I left it off. Not connected to anything. But my tuner couldn't get it to idol smoothly. I'm thinking it's because of that vent..
Can I have link to this kit please? I have same motor in my truck and it's a daily.
Link is in the description.
Is it more beneficial to delete my valve cover outlet and cap off my valve cover port? Is this more effecient? I have a 2001 5.3 vortec. Does this change anything in the working of the engine?
No because you can eliviate the pressure, the engine won't be as efficient and the piston rings can't seal as well. The PCV system is actually really good except for it puts oil vapour back into the intake.
@@AnthonyJ350 ok I have same setup as you did in this video. I worded it wrong I just meant to ask does it hurt anything by how you cap off valve cover and use the oil cap instead? It seems to be running very clean so far and runs good.
Can you use this for a ls carburetor swap🤔
That I'm not sure if this is still effective.
What fitting did you put into the cold air intake?
It was a threaded fitting with a barbed end. I believe it was for a 3/8 hose.
Would it be better to run a T barb and run valve body port and elite seperator to it then put a one way check valve or inline filter then leafing to breather TB port?
I would run an oil catch can on the dirty side of the PCV system and this breather cap on the clean side.
@@AnthonyJ350 that's what I did just to give a reply on this engine is running great.
@@robpaul7900 Thanks for letting us know what's working for you 🙂
Why would you send back into the intake? That defeats the purpose of sending oil back through intake?
This side of the PCV system only really does anything under wide open throttle. The separator keeps the oil under the valve cover, but allows pressure from the crankcase to go somewhere.
Serious question- Is it possible to use 2 oil separators (1 for each valve cover) and plumb it so that when the crank is in a vaccum it uses the air from the tbss manifold connection on top for metered fresh air into the valve covers BUT when at wot and crank pressure is building it reverses air flow and uses both oil separators before forcing air into the tbss manifold connection??? The separators would obviously need to be able to flow both ways and am wondering if anyone has ever tried this or something similar to upgrade theier pcv system??? Any input on upgrading the pcv system over stock would be great 👍 thx
In my mind this is still metered air from the intake that could go into valve covers through the that could be used for high vacccduring higbut also allow for reverse air flow into the intake when
I've seen dual separator setups, but most are separate circuits like I have on my truck because the flow stays exactly how it was engineered.
We're you still getting alot of oil in your intake tube? Do you recommend running catch can in series with it?
Yes I have a catch can on the driver's side installed.
@AnthonyJ350 no. A Catch can between the oil cap and the intake tube.
@@lylegoodluck I don't see that being necessary. Unless it's a vehicle being ran near redline regularly.
How much would it cost me to update the top of my 5.3 2010 like you did? Thanks
If paying someone a few grand, parts and labour.
What’s the benefits
So the oil cap thing is the breather and ur sucking in unmetered air , is that what I'm seeing here ?
It's after the MAF so it's metered.
@@AnthonyJ350 it's not metered tho. Ur sucking in air after the maf that doesn't go past the maf at all, therefore it's unmetered. U have a vacuum leak. Unless that port has a check valve in it that stays closed under vac, but then it would be pointless and ur not actually pulling in fresh air for the system to work properly.
@@tomjw7 OK watch this video. Everything on this Nissan 350Z is setup like factory. There is a factory vacuum hose under the intake that goes to the valve cover (no check valves) and it's after the MAF sensor and its for the PCV system.
ua-cam.com/video/FK9bPnfUIUs/v-deo.htmlsi=HNnNXhXqjV__BfIA
The cap isn't a "breather" it's sealed.
You did see the thumbnail where I say it's a "closed" system.
I have that set up in my 2018 Sierra. Be careful with the double 0 rings. The metal lid fits too tight on the plastic and the 0-rings get cooked and brittle and they break off and could fall inside the valve cover. I sanded the hole in the plastic larger and only use one 0-ring instead of two. The cap sits tight and still seals well. You can buy a packet of 20 high temp 0 rings at home depot to keep as spares once the original 0 rings get old and crusty.
Ok so just keep an eye on the o-ring that seals to the oil neck connection?
Mine only had 1 o-ring like the factory oil cap. Yours had two?
@@AnthonyJ350 yes, when you pull the metal breather off the adapter plate that threads on to the filler neck. They are two 7/8 x 11/16 x 3/32 #13 0-rings. Danco makes them under part number 35730. I bought a package of 10 at Home Depo for a few bucks.
@@jewllake Ahhh ok, what's the best way to separate the assembly?
@@AnthonyJ350 Just pull straight up on the metal cap with the barbed hose fitting. The plastic adapter that took the place of the oil cap stays in place. That's how it's supposed to work. On mine the tolerance between the two was too tight so i sanded the opening on the plastic adapter larger. Otherwise the rubber 0-rings were being stretched and twisted and would break apart. Fortunately none fell inside. Probably not a bad Idea to replace them every other oil change.
7:01 those two bolts directly straight top one for the head and the other is to that weird metal line that connects on the block I have coolant coming from that area do u know the cause ?
Are they loose?
@@AnthonyJ350 no they are very tight,do they need lock tight or gasket maker?
The head bolt crevice is were most of it builds up at but those have factory lock tight
@@mikeverything4098 There might be an o-ring in there that needs replacement
Did u recommend for a v6 4.3 2001 silverado?? Thx
For sure, with a baffled oil catch can on the other side so they work together.
@@AnthonyJ350 already thanks bro,
By chanse any link to get it.
@@filynv582 Here's the link to the product in the video www.eliteengineeringusa.com/clean-side-oil-separator/
Hey bro, I just got my swap completed in my 77 Buick Regal with a tbss intake, ls3 throttle body, cammed with ls6 springs, it’s not a daily driver and think my builder deleted both the eve and clean air pvc, do you think I should run this setup? Again it’s not a daily driver or will it ever be dragged on the strip more of my weekend power toy
If u caped that off now you have vacuume on the crank case it’s sucking in air From the pcv
Are you saying we changed the flow?
It’s sucks threw the pcv so u caped it so you now have vacuumed in the crank case remove that cap and start it it will suck… also do you know if the pcv is normally closed I’m replacing mine thinking it was stuck open but the new one is that same
@@arealmaintenanceandrepairl1103 I thought it always sucks through the PCV. The oil separator you see works during wide open throttle. These truck don't use a valve on the driver's side, it's just an orifice.
@@AnthonyJ350 I’m confused now.. so mine pulse vacum threw the pcv all the way to the other valve cover at that small intake tube at idle and at wot so I have bad pcv because shouldn’t it shut at idle because of high vac
@@AnthonyJ350 I’m upload a video of what mine does at idle
this is a wrong way. oil vapor will make shortcut and go into the air intake. if you want to solve oil vapor getting into air intake side (before TB) during WOT, just put another one way valve in between.
I'm good with this way. Truck has over 240,00KM and ran great on the dyno. Going on year 14 with ownership of this vehicle.
Oh and emissions testing for me either
Do you have a catch can system on your vehicle?
AnthonyJ350 no I don’t it might have had it before the motor was swapped from a 04 Chevy Tahoe
where can i order that
I have the link in the description
Do you have a video on how you did your catch can at first I had the clean side on valve cover to catch can and driver side valve cover to catch can but I was geting lots of smoke and the Pcv was caped off on intake I have the nnbs intake
@@Neighborhood_ls2 This is the most thorough video I have for catch cans, different engine though ua-cam.com/video/iSzU-cvlLO8/v-deo.html
Do you know why I would be getting lots of white smoke vapor
@@Neighborhood_ls2 Is something plugged on your PCV system?
ummm....checking lash? hydraulic lifters = does it for you
You still need them to be setup properly initially and they can come out of adjust. They don't adjust infinitely ua-cam.com/video/C51gSgg58uw/v-deo.html
@@AnthonyJ350 lol okay bud...you explain to me how you'll adjust the lash on non adjustable rockers?
@@chesterfield.mcdermott I just sent you the video...
@@chesterfield.mcdermott So if you hear ticking from the valve train, do you just do nothing?
@@AnthonyJ350 that's a different engine! Solid lifters and adjustable rockers....LS engines have none of that. Film yourself trying on the LS...I dare you.
And what about crank case pressure? Yeaaaaaa.
What do you mean? The circuit is the exact same as stock. Only difference is oil gets separated.
Why would you vent to atmosphere when the stock PCV system was never designed to?
@@AnthonyJ350 it was designed for emissions not for optimal performance.
That's like saying why would you tune a vehicle that's not how they were designed.
Also if the user uses flex fuels, that water vapor is now going straight into the valve cover.
Instead of being a vapor it's going to be a mixture of fuel and water.
Ahhhh your one of those mechanics who treats his 250hp beater V8 like it's a 2000hp dragster holding 60 pounds of boost, rtv on the valve cap was a fine ass touch, runs like shit for a brand new top end, keep it up 👍
I threaded the fitting into the intake and put RTV on the threads to seal it. There's no rtv on the valve cap.
Ran good on the dyno here ua-cam.com/video/K439MkjyGK8/v-deo.html
Works good here too ua-cam.com/video/wdY4TZeUHM8/v-deo.html
How come everyone that comments like this never shows their own setup so I can learn how to make mine better?
YOHB?
Show us on the doll where the chebby touched u
Hey Anthony nice and clean installation, i'm in the process of swapping a TBSS intake manifold in my 04 Tahoe and noticed that the TBSS intake does not has the port or connection to put fresh air into the valve cover but after seeing this video i really want to do it the way you did which make all the sense to me and i have 2 questions for you, 1- where can i get the oil separator and 2-it is ok if i keep the dirty side where the pcv is as it is or i should install a catch can in between he pcv and the intake vaccum port ??If you have an instagram i'll send you pictures of what i'm doing in order to get everything ready for the swap day,, this is mine Ernies Wraps, thanks in advance
I'll message you on IG.
I have the same question