Ship chat: Ekoor Class
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- in todays ship chat we take a closer look at the Cardassian Ekoor Class Cruiser which featured most prominently in the Cardassian Border War Series. examining its in universe lore and origins as well as the real life behind the scenes story.
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Cardassian ships are always my favorite. Not sure why. They are generally outgunned, but they tend to favor odds over quality. And the general shapes and dull color I can appreciate as well. A work horse. Not as fancy as the Federation, but with less things to break down.
Very well thought out and put together. Enjoyed this video a lot.
Nice bit of backstory, both in universe and out of universe. Thanks again!
no problem its quite an unusual one indeed.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Though in my personal opinion battles in your series were bit too equal. Cardassians were more likely using hit and run, traps and groups attacks on C-tier ships Federation was using to patrol this rather unimportant frontier region. Both sides most likely assume they face pirate raids as Starfleet was mostly focused on the Beta quadrant. Only when things escalated Federation start sending actually capable ship to restore order. Fortunately Cardassians develop Galor what was quite decent and after clashes, both sides finally realize that they deal with actual empires. So they agree on compromise, as Federation really didn't want move they proper forces from Klingon-Romulan border. I personally don't think that Ambasador would participate in the conflict and if, only as singular Command Ship. Because it would easily kill few Galors. But that is just my opinion.
In many ways the Ekoor class shares much in common with the fanon Ares-Class from Star Trek Axanar. Both were made to combat a foe with a tech superiority in the fields of Starship weapons. As well as to be test-beds of newly developed tech and weapons systems for the long term plan of a new mainline cruisier. Those ships then being the Galor and Constitution class respectively.
a good comparison. both were stopgaps using existing technology whilst the newer tech was still in development. and both were, sadly soon outgrown.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 would you make a video about the Kardashian conquest of Bayshore and what The Jordans the Jordans was able to like what they had as far as ships and weapons and if they did resist you know the military was just maybe they had mental batteries that could get up to half and pulse I had nuclear warheads I think that they had some smaller ships that would impulse ships they had explored their solar system for a while I don't think they had warp technology I think at best they had impulse technology and fusion reactors I think they had weak maybe their ships was powered by laser weapons or particle beams but yeah maybe their ships were powered by particle beams like the the Vulcans had early on 10 more to that y'all maybe they had chips at work maybe the biggest one was 100 m long those powered by particle beams I think they had artificial gravity maybe they still had some light ships too that they was that was unarmed you know they used for you know exploring the moon to colonizing the Moon cuz they had a few
Great video as always,I do like the documentary style of the your vids.
Oh, absolutely more ship talks. Your battlespace series and the ship talks are why I followed this channel! :D I love this stuff.
Another awesome video, hope your channel grows to what is deserves to be.
Very well thought out and presented. 👍
like how you came up with the backstory. this is basically the Connie equivalent for the Cardassians in terms of the tech tree. basically, the Cardassians started with an NX equivalent when they ran into Starfleet. Also: we need a ship vs chats: ISD vs Dominion Battleship
I love these, like the tank chats with David Fletcher over on the tank museum UA-cam channel.
now if only we could go inside one LOL.
Obscure niche lore like this are the funnest videos.
glad you agree. i have a real soft spot for this ship.
This ship is in the game Star Trek armada 2, but has a different name . It was a frigate class
I love the design of the Ekoor.
Great video I totally enjoyed it very much The 3D model of the Ekoor class looks totally amazing
Nice, very nice.
It is in Star Trek armada three but has a different use, background and weight class to yours
Really what is it?
Ok dumb question: What we see at 8:50 is that a screenshot from a Star Trek game i have never heard of?
I would LOVE to play a tactical Trek Game like this. I wouldn't mind the lack of 3D, i just would love to have a game where you can explore the Trek universe, add mods and fly canon accurate game unlike (*Cough*unlike STO *cough*).
That's not a game those are my own graphics
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Ahh, i see. It looks really nice.
Would you do a video on Bayshore before the Kardashian conquest what level of technology they had were they United planet have they had any
Is the battle of setlic 3 the same as the setlic 3 massacre? If thats the case Chief O'Brien has to be near 50 during the time of DS9 or older which doesn't add up.
I was wondering why I can't find this on Memory Alpha or Beta. Also was not included in Star trek Armada mod for Sins of the Solar Empire
a great shame i'd love to see it in a game... (any modders out there?)
Sad there is no more Bridge Commander and what ever came out on the Xbox 360. I used to love the mods on BC at least on the PC.
it is being modded into a game as i speak.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 do you know which game by any chance?
Fantastic!
Nice work would be interesting to see a video on the Keldon class the ones from season 3 or 4 ds9
I'm not 100 percent but I'm pretty sure one of these designs did show up in Star Trek Armada II which has a playable Cardassian faction. And the design was used I think as their science/support class vessel that was able to open a rift into Fluidic Space to summon a Species 8472 bioship or as a medium cruiser.
EDIT: they did use the Kulinor but I don't remember the role it played.
yes the Kulinor is much more prolific in games and Mods. its a shame that the Ekoor doesn't enjoy that exposure. (btw i like that idea of summoning 8472 although i imagine it was a risky move and might backfire.)
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It wasn't friendly to the summoner, it would attack anything in agro range so it was like a weapon of last resort or as a means of escape.
@@HeadlessChickenTO still pretty cool.
Sweet videos
The Cardassian are in star trek Voyager and star trek the next generation show
Yeah as cost and demands as Cardies could only build so many and have to pic as more powerful designs side line or replace
Also looking around it seems the USS Odyssey was assigned to cover the Cardassian front with the Enterprise the in between like Kirk time after the loss of Far Point mean't Starfleet went through a consolidation time at the right time as after Wolf 359 more Galaxies being built then the Cardies could handle
yeah in the border war series the cardassians never come up against a galaxy class. the biggest they face are ambassadors which are plenty powerful themselves.
I question the hull strength considering Dukats Galor was taken down by 2 bops
i presume something larger was chasing them, or their were more BOPs since yeah 2 should be no trouble for Galors. i say that because a lot of Beta material like video games give the Cardassians higher hull strength.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 while we do. See a Borcha show up nothing else
@@paulrasmussen8953 probably part of a Vorcha wing 6bops 4 vorcha. im not saying the galor beat them all but that was probably the unit it ran into.
you can also find it here www.shipschematics.net/startrek/others_data.php
Looks a lot like a Keldon class
similar sillhoute although the keldon is itself really a variant of the galor with assaut modules. whereas the ekoor is a class in in itself
Have you taken a look at the cardassian ships within Star Trek Armada 2?
some of them yes i've done videos on the Kulinor and Rasilak
There wad a fleet combat game for pc around 1998 or 1999 it might have been in. Can't remember then name of the game
the armada series
@@venomgeekmedia9886 it was pre amarda i (amarda still has a prity active mod couminity )
Found it it's Star Trek: Birth of the Federation. It's a 90s 4x game if you could get a copy running with a capture card a play though would make a cool little series.
I think that the cardassians are much better at specialised ships. the galour class is a universal cruiser, and in my opinion, is the best reincarnation of a universal cruiser in star trek. the federations weakness is that they try to make everything a universal cruiser but end up with something like the galaxy class which is hindered by its generalisation. while some people suffer from over specialisation the federation suffers from over generalisation. the only universal cruisers that Starfleet had for a long time were the Miranda, nebula and new Orleans, which all are meant to have interchangeable pods which means that when you need them for a mission you just need to hope that the nearest star base has one lying around. The ekoor and the kolonor (probably butchered spelling) yes are specialised and have their weaknesses for it, but because they are designed alongside each other and meant to never be without the other it makes up for that. even the intrepid, which is called a science ship, has combat and speed in mind as we see in the dominion war where it was used as a long range scout and selected as a diplomatic ship for the romulans because of its combat capability.
personally i felt that the Intrepid was more of a 'mini galaxy class'. and i think it is worth distinguishing between 'Universal cruisers' and 'explorers' which the federation use. i agree that the nebula and Miranda are the only true universal cruisers. and thats arguably because they are derived from already successful platforms.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 that's true the intrepid did have more of a galaxy vibe to it. but with their universal ships like the galaxy class and freedom class and others they all have combat, no matter how light, in mind each federation ship tries to be something it isn't. like how the oberth was used in combat or the nova sent to dangerous missions (as in the equinox) which they are just not built for. it feels like Starfleet tries to cram everything in. I think in my own opinion that the best universal cruiser Starfleet ever put into production was the original series constitution class because it was used as a battlecruiser to fight the Klingons and push the boundaries of science in deep space.
cardies always reminds me of fascist italy. they were both decadent nations with a long history and rich culture, a totalitarian military government, severe lack of resources, technologically backwards, ridden with nepotism and corruption, whose population is known for being extremely proud to the point of arrogance, which started rapid development but became a second grade power, their invasion plans twarthed by the poorly equipped natives they tried to dominate, got crushed and submitted by greater entitites, and after a gruesome civil war in which they ultimately switched sides they lost everything and became subservient to the current biggest power.
became subservient and a constant frustration to their more powerful allies.