Enormously high expectations, earned with enormously high performances. Continued health may be the only thing needed to meet those expectations. This horse can fly!!!
He has exceptional shoulder angulation, which is often overlooked. This allows his front to lift and reach further forward than a straight shoulder, and sets the whole form and length of his stride. It will be good to follow him in the coming year, and I hope he stays sound.
Nah. Secretariat was straight in the hock , gooserumped, and didn't have a particularly sloped shoulder, it didn't slow him down. Superfast runners come in all sizes and shapes even classic types e.g. Slew and the "Bid"
@@realtruth2817 Bid was hickory. He danced most every dance. In my mind he would have won the Belmont had Delp not tried to break Secretariat's record. That cost him the T.C. Bid was by no means picture perfect conformation wise. The greats never seem to be. Flightline is fragile. I don't envy the trainer. He's the type to do what's best for the horse. He's not going to chase accolades like Delp.
Yeah Z is pretty damn good at her job I always saw the name Z Cadman in the form on fairgrounds horses without knowing it was a lady jockey but it seems like the people that used her never changed jockeys. Talented enough to ride a race horse and 1000 times better talker than Gaaary Stevens ...yes I used Zoey accent on that one
If he were mine I would be heading to Suadi. It's a 20 million dollar purse. He would be going against Life is Good. That would be a great race. Flightline and Life is Good breath a different air. They're the best of the best.
Neither one could sniff Big Reds ass on their best day! But no horse could. Flight line has not raced at Saratoga, untill he does and wins there he is suspect!
He's Big and built like Secretariat was..an athlete..his neck is thick like a Bison so he probably too has a Big size Heart, FlightLine is truly Beautiful 🙏✝️🙏
He is clearly a horse of exceptional talent, but winning by big margins can be deceptive. There's a way to go before he can be considered the equal of Secretariat
Ultra impressive colt reminds me of turf champion Frankel with his brilliance? Judging by the way he ran through the line in the malibu he will stay 1 mile and an eighth? The fashion these days is to pack them off to stud before they reach their full potential and I hope this horse isn't.
You're right and he's so big it's probably why it took him so long to get to the races I don't imagine he's going to throw any Speedy fast babies that're going to pay their way for their two year old year!
You won't find another horse like this until he becomes a papa u best believe he will sire the greatest filly in history once he completes his racing career ....that's the truth
Dangerous prediction. Tapit has become a sire of sires, so you could be right. But many of the most dominant sires of recent (and probably earlier) decades, Flightline's daddy Tapit included, weren't the very top of the line as racehorses. Even if Flightline turned out the greatest North American sire since Northern Dancer it would not begin to guarantee he would produce the greatest filly ever. Who would have expected Private Account (13:6-4-1), Reviewer (13:9-3-1), Street Cry (12:5-6-1) and Medaglia d'Oro (17:8-7-0) to sire arguably the four best female racehorses on the dirt of the past 50 years? Citation and Secretariat were impeccably bred, great racehorses; Secretariat turned out to be a good but not great sire, and Citation a mediocre one. I'd bet on Flightline being an outstanding stallion. I'd bet against him producing the best ever filly, or a Triple Crown winner. But I'm old enough I probably will not live to see his youngest progeny complete their careers, assuming he survives to get pensioned at a typical age.
Great horses dont make great sires did michael jordan make great stars no and who has the greatest race horse ever had???? Big RED didnt have much these horses are just rare
To your second question: All Thoroughbreds born in the northern hemisphere in the same year are considered the same age, and share an official birthday of January 1. So as far as the Jockey Club and racing is concerned, Thoroughbreds born Jan. 1 and Dec. 31st of the same year are the same age. (I'm pretty sure this is true of racing Quarter Horses and Standardbreds, as well, who also race at young ages.) Thoroughbrds aren't fully grown until 5, or close to it. A difference of a few months growth and maturation can make a difference in the performance of still-growing 2-year-olds and 3-year-olds. It is an advantage -- not an absolute one, but real -- for a foal to be born early in the year, and breeders schedule matings accordingly. The breeding season is different in the southern hemisphere, and the age cut-off there is not January 1 as in the northern hemisphere. The great NZ/Australian gelding Phar Lap was born in October; the great Aussie mares Black Caviar and Winx were born in August and September, respectively. As to the first question: When the Thoroughbred was developed in Great Britain in the 17th and early 18th centuries, races were long and held in heats, and the horses participating in them were fully grown. Over time, interest in shorter races increased, and younger horses were found suitable for the less wearing middle and sprint distances. By the 19th century (maybe earlier?) racing of 3-year-olds and even 2-year-olds was popular, both in Europe and in the U.S. In Great Britain, 3 important races for 3-year-olds had became known in the mid-19th century as "the Triple Crown"; and in the 1930's, an American sportswriter started using the same label for the American 3-year-old races of the Kentucky Derby, Preakness and Belmont. Some other nations with horseracing use the term Triple Crown, too, for important series of races. Because 2- and 3-yr-olds are physically immature they race [mostly] against their own age group. It is very rare -- unheard of in the U.S. currently, to the best of my knowledge -- for 2-year-olds to race older horses. The best 3-year-olds tend to race fellow 3-year-olds in the first half or so of the year, but often compete against older horses in the late summer or autumn. When they do compete in open/not age-restricted races, 3-year-olds are given a weight advantage in recognition of the fact they are not fully grown.
I thought he was injured when he was a baby in the stall . It must have been after the 1 mil. purchase in the sale ring , because there is no sign of the white up on his neck or the horrible gash on his right flank.
How about a 2/5 on Flightline to give an incentive so that people can bet and still make a profit instead of 1/9 certainly it will add flair to the race though Flightline will win by five lengths
A smart handicapper would bet an advance wager for him to win the BCC. 3-1 in early August. I guess I was the only one to lay 4 figures on him back then. How do you think I felt after he won the PCC? 🏦
Ruffian had this type of talent. She also had a smooth shuffling way of going. She never looked like she was out of a canter. We all know what happened. This colt appears to be hitting the ground hard in almost a climbing motion. Perhaps because he's being restrained. I love the fact Sadler has this colt. I wish the very best, but even the great Whitely couldn't save Ruffian from herself. I fear the "rabbits" that other trainers may throw at him. Sadler has no easy task. (This aside, Skipaway had a similar way of going, and he had a long successful career. Maybe it's because he didn't need the lead)
Ruffian broke down because she was a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Both of her parents broke down on the track. They never should have been bred together. You can't put a powerful machine on glass ankles.
I didn’t know Ghostzapper was the pinnacle of thoroughbreds? FLIGHTLINE has incredible potential but has a very long way to go to be mentioned in the same sentence as(fill in the blank)
Stop that, Baffert has had several great horses and I don't think he's been juicing them, jealous people do desperate things and I think he's being screwed over.
dont forget nicks go, life is good , medina spirit, essential quality and etc and etc relax there boys take a pull .. he havent bt nobdy just yet so relax all uall...
Medina Spirit is dead and Essential Quality is retired to stud, so Flightline will never face them. The other two will present serious challenges to him.
🤣🤣🤣 Equibase figures in the three races, last out to first race were 127, 130, 116...and were not just CA competitors. Yeah...sure... Just a phase. Obviously fading. 🤣🤣🤣 (Yes, this was sarcasm)
Nothing could beat him at a mile and a half. Not slew, bid, skip or chrome....he's a carbon copy 3 year old beginner like Zen but he's got cruise control
I wonder if he has had peppermints, just out of curiosity. I mean, the personality talent bloodlines training conformation and care and everything still has to be there, just wondering if peppermint is that added touch. Several famous horses were fed peppermint treats. Could affect heart size you see. Avoid gmos additives these days and avoid gmo feed too for top athlete horses, and fluoride free water. blessings
@@ayalaanthony1488 Yes Melair was her name my cellphone alphabet keystroke changed it as I was typing but the point is one turn miles allow a horse to get into a runaway momentum mode and they run their fastest
@@richd3044 I'm sick of earth the race track is heaven until you meet the small but increasing number of human idiots who spill beer on you and laugh about it
@@bobpats7224 That day when she ran the mile, at 7 furlongs she hit 1:19 I know because I was there! Melair was also trained by Sadler She destroyed the field including Snow Chief.
Sadler always prefer to have young hands and cute face helping for assistant especially if they ware pinky colors,he just to have another 20 year young assistant larry benavides in early 90's
What a crock. You're making this geographical? Does that include Kentucky. That's the heart of the industry. It doesn't matter where the horse ends up training.
Well he's a bit long in the back so that makes for back trouble.....kidney trouble....any if he races on Lasix that just adds to it I would imagine that's why he's got the little Shadow roll on his head.... he runs with his head a bit High which usually indicates back trouble... and Churchill Downs is definitely not a place for back trouble or back end trouble.... but for his Daddy's sake I'm hoping he can handle it.... Skipaway couldn't nor Native Dancer....
@@montanawarren8462 Skipaway had a long illustrious career. He was champion 3yr. old, Twice champion handicap horse , and horse of the year. He earned 9.6 million. He couldn't handle what?? Native ran as a four year old and won the metropolitan handicap. He retired because he had a chronic foot problem. No what couldn't he handle??
As,is all thats going on in Cali. hey gave small fields , low purse , Big Trouble all that starts there .Fast ,fast Track surfaces . Just look at the last decade .Horror show.
Let’s hope the horse stays sound and healthy so racing fans can see this story being written.
He looks like the “ Real Deal”.
Enormously high expectations, earned with enormously high performances. Continued health may be the only thing needed to meet those expectations. This horse can fly!!!
Already shown he is special, could be anything.
Hope he stays healthy & sound.
Love that Sadler has him.
Expecting great things from Flightline.
He has exceptional shoulder angulation, which is often overlooked. This allows his front to lift and reach further forward than a straight shoulder, and sets the whole form and length of his stride. It will be good to follow him in the coming year, and I hope he stays sound.
Correct!
Yes the amazing thing is he extends going around turns a superior weapon that is tantalizing
Nah. Secretariat was straight in the hock , gooserumped, and didn't have a particularly sloped shoulder, it didn't slow him down. Superfast runners come in all sizes and shapes even classic types e.g. Slew and the "Bid"
@@biff5856 SPECTACULAR Bid was and STILL is the GREATEST 4 year old We have EVER seen. Let's hope & see Flightline give Us something SIMILAR. Go go go
@@realtruth2817 Bid was hickory. He danced most every dance. In my mind he would have won the Belmont had Delp not tried to break Secretariat's record. That cost him the T.C. Bid was by no means picture perfect conformation wise. The greats never seem to be. Flightline is fragile. I don't envy the trainer. He's the type to do what's best for the horse. He's not going to chase accolades like Delp.
Flightline is one of those very special horses that don't come along often
He definitely is!
Impressive, impressive horse. Watch for him. Highest Beyer speed figure of 2021. Big things are coming for him.
It began on the his 1st race!
Stay safe, stay sound, stay healthy! Also, I miss seeing Zoe Cadman on HRTV! :( You always made me smile, Zoe.
Yeah Z is pretty damn good at her job I always saw the name Z Cadman in the form on fairgrounds horses without knowing it was a lady jockey but it seems like the people that used her never changed jockeys. Talented enough to ride a race horse and 1000 times better talker than Gaaary Stevens ...yes I used Zoey accent on that one
I had to click to see , he was outstanding to look at, then to watch him run...WOW
John Sadler is a class act.
disagree
@@louisburch1930 tell me more
He's a brilliant horse he just can't stay sound. Speaks volumes he has to go months between starts
If he were mine I would be heading to Suadi. It's a 20 million dollar purse. He would be going against Life is Good. That would be a great race. Flightline and Life is Good breath a different air. They're the best of the best.
Neither one could sniff Big Reds ass on their best day! But no horse could. Flight line has not raced at Saratoga, untill he does and wins there he is suspect!
Anamoe
The next Seattle Slew? Gives off that aura at this point....bully's his way.....won't be outrun...just wants to run....sounds familiar.
We will see Saturday next! Good luck to all
He's Big and built like Secretariat was..an athlete..his neck is thick like a Bison so he probably too has a Big size Heart, FlightLine is truly Beautiful 🙏✝️🙏
He has the Look of Eagles!!! Hope he recovers soon!!!
recovers from what? thanks
He is clearly a horse of exceptional talent, but winning by big margins can be deceptive. There's a way to go before he can be considered the equal of Secretariat
How right you are, Svend! Very well said!
Outstanding! Thank you for sharing. He is also beautiful.🐴
Ultra impressive colt reminds me of turf champion Frankel with his brilliance? Judging by the way he ran through the line in the malibu he will stay 1 mile and an eighth? The fashion these days is to pack them off to stud before they reach their full potential and I hope this horse isn't.
Discovered this story to day will be watching FLIGHTLINE.
It's amazing he would say that he's the best he trained, he's trained some really nice horses
Champion is champion he is a special race horse .and also in good hands
What a pretty face, he loves to run....wishing him
the best of soundness.
Well, in reality it was no time to write down a history. Retired to breeding after just six races shows how much this game has changed.
You're right and he's so big it's probably why it took him so long to get to the races I don't imagine he's going to throw any Speedy fast babies that're going to pay their way for their two year old year!
It’s all about the money…the horses are just used to gain it….😡
You won't find another horse like this until he becomes a papa u best believe he will sire the greatest filly in history once he completes his racing career ....that's the truth
Although most are, not all great horses are great sires, and even breeding with a great mare is no guarantee.
Dangerous prediction. Tapit has become a sire of sires, so you could be right. But many of the most dominant sires of recent (and probably earlier) decades, Flightline's daddy Tapit included, weren't the very top of the line as racehorses. Even if Flightline turned out the greatest North American sire since Northern Dancer it would not begin to guarantee he would produce the greatest filly ever. Who would have expected Private Account (13:6-4-1), Reviewer (13:9-3-1), Street Cry (12:5-6-1) and Medaglia d'Oro (17:8-7-0) to sire arguably the four best female racehorses on the dirt of the past 50 years?
Citation and Secretariat were impeccably bred, great racehorses; Secretariat turned out to be a good but not great sire, and Citation a mediocre one.
I'd bet on Flightline being an outstanding stallion. I'd bet against him producing the best ever filly, or a Triple Crown winner. But I'm old enough I probably will not live to see his youngest progeny complete their careers, assuming he survives to get pensioned at a typical age.
I’m with Bob!!
Great horses dont make great sires did michael jordan make great stars no and who has the greatest race horse ever had???? Big RED didnt have much these horses are just rare
Well, now it's written. WHAT A HORSE!
I'm excited 🙏💞💯🌹
An old timer told me once, GOD PUTS SPEED INTO HORSES! SO TRUE!
Was Flightline expected to run in the KY Derby when he was just starting out?
THIS HORSE IS A "FREAK" - STAY SOUND BUDDY!
His profile picture is reminiscent of Phalaris, an all-time great sire.
Guess we’ll see.
Why only 3years race in the triple crown? And why most of the horses are born in jan-march?
To your second question: All Thoroughbreds born in the northern hemisphere in the same year are considered the same age, and share an official birthday of January 1. So as far as the Jockey Club and racing is concerned, Thoroughbreds born Jan. 1 and Dec. 31st of the same year are the same age. (I'm pretty sure this is true of racing Quarter Horses and Standardbreds, as well, who also race at young ages.) Thoroughbrds aren't fully grown until 5, or close to it. A difference of a few months growth and maturation can make a difference in the performance of still-growing 2-year-olds and 3-year-olds. It is an advantage -- not an absolute one, but real -- for a foal to be born early in the year, and breeders schedule matings accordingly.
The breeding season is different in the southern hemisphere, and the age cut-off there is not January 1 as in the northern hemisphere. The great NZ/Australian gelding Phar Lap was born in October; the great Aussie mares Black Caviar and Winx were born in August and September, respectively.
As to the first question: When the Thoroughbred was developed in Great Britain in the 17th and early 18th centuries, races were long and held in heats, and the horses participating in them were fully grown. Over time, interest in shorter races increased, and younger horses were found suitable for the less wearing middle and sprint distances. By the 19th century (maybe earlier?) racing of 3-year-olds and even 2-year-olds was popular, both in Europe and in the U.S. In Great Britain, 3 important races for 3-year-olds had became known in the mid-19th century as "the Triple Crown"; and in the 1930's, an American sportswriter started using the same label for the American 3-year-old races of the Kentucky Derby, Preakness and Belmont. Some other nations with horseracing use the term Triple Crown, too, for important series of races.
Because 2- and 3-yr-olds are physically immature they race [mostly] against their own age group. It is very rare -- unheard of in the U.S. currently, to the best of my knowledge -- for 2-year-olds to race older horses. The best 3-year-olds tend to race fellow 3-year-olds in the first half or so of the year, but often compete against older horses in the late summer or autumn. When they do compete in open/not age-restricted races, 3-year-olds are given a weight advantage in recognition of the fact they are not fully grown.
I hope they don't screw him up by going to Dubai or Gulfstream unless his FINAL career start is at gulfstream
So glad Baffert doesn't have this one
Yea he would have won by 38 lengths
Good boy¡¡
Este caballo con jinetes de la talla de irad o luis saez es un ganador no solo del kentuky derby ,Belmont si no tambien de la saudi cup
Wow! This is a beautiful horse! I love the 4 black legs.
It's called "Bay".
Feels disappointing they retired him so early.
Starboy!! Legendary Flight line
Stay healthy papa
I still think he reminds me of Dr. Fager .
maybe not at 3... but if American Pharoah had run at 4 these 2 would have has some amazing , competitive races against each other !!
I thought he was injured when he was a baby in the stall . It must have been after the 1 mil. purchase in the sale ring , because there is no sign of the white up on his neck or the horrible gash on his right flank.
Why not stretch the distance for him?
How about a 2/5 on Flightline to give an incentive so that people can bet and still make a profit instead of 1/9 certainly it will add flair to the race though Flightline will win by five lengths
I think a bet on how many lengths will he win by could be more profitable. 😉
A smart handicapper would bet an advance wager for him to win the BCC. 3-1 in early August. I guess I was the only one to lay 4 figures on him back then. How do you think I felt after he won the PCC? 🏦
@@6cobrasnake9 Congrats to you but do remember not everyone think like you
Ruffian had this type of talent. She also had a smooth shuffling way of going. She never looked like she was out of a canter. We all know what happened. This colt appears to be hitting the ground hard in almost a climbing motion. Perhaps because he's being restrained. I love the fact Sadler has this colt. I wish the very best, but even the great Whitely couldn't save Ruffian from herself. I fear the "rabbits" that other trainers may throw at him. Sadler has no easy task. (This aside, Skipaway had a similar way of going, and he had a long successful career. Maybe it's because he didn't need the lead)
I remember ruffian she was something else
@@patriciaotoole5930 Ruffian could've clocked 106:3 for 6 furlongs on those West Coast tracks !
Loved Skip Away. He was a beast in the ‘97 Breeders’ Cup Classic. Glad I got to visit him while he was alive!
@@victorcornet21 Indeed. Sonny did a masterful job of keeping him sound. He was strong mover but sort of hit the ground hard.
Ruffian broke down because she was a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Both of her parents broke down on the track. They never should have been bred together. You can't put a powerful machine on glass ankles.
Stunning horse. Beautiful confirmation.
America's horse during the covid bullwars
What a horse , what a horse
Better than Zenyatta?
Yes
Hard to say honestly
Mission accomplished Flightline! Now go make some pretty babies.
And get bred to death..along with the mares he covers…😥
He looked like a gawddam runaway in some of his workouts... not too much horse, but not enough track....
He really reminds me of secretariat
Tapits best son?
Yes!
May be the the second coming of Ghostzapper. We'll see.
Flightline is Ghostzapper & Barbaro put together in ONE!
I didn’t know Ghostzapper was the pinnacle of thoroughbreds? FLIGHTLINE has incredible potential but has a very long way to go to be mentioned in the same sentence as(fill in the blank)
@@kennethgoldfarb8614 When you recognize something special, that's the day you start doing comparison's to other very good/great horses!
Exactly what I thought
@@ayalaanthony1488 Don’t say Barbaro you know what happened to him
Still writing it John because you retired him too soon.
Don't jinx him by needless hype😏
It's too bad he couldn't have went for the triple crown.
How old is Flightline
4 in 2022
If Baffert trained him he’d be just another Horse!!
Sure
Bob Baffert isn't the only person who is capable of teaching and training a horse
@@davidrice3337 Baffert can't spell horse. Here Bob let me show what a hoof pick looks like
Stop that, Baffert has had several great horses and I don't think he's been juicing them, jealous people do desperate things and I think he's being screwed over.
@@jeffb5785 he's had 27 drug violations.( probably without Medina) More than any trainer in California. He lawyers up, officials back down.
very lightly raced for whatever reason...
He's beautiful
dont forget nicks go, life is good , medina spirit, essential quality and etc and etc relax there boys take a pull .. he havent bt nobdy just yet so relax all uall...
Medina Spirit is dead and Essential Quality is retired to stud, so Flightline will never face them. The other two will present serious challenges to him.
All those horses you mentioned are or were very good, but not one of them is considered SPECIAL!
Yeah, some of these folks need to scale down some.
He’s literally only ran a couple times shut up about him till he runs outside of Cali
Life is Good is far better than this horse
@@gorgatz0427 far better? That's a stretch at this point no?
im in uk and i can see this horse is special
@@khunterkid then why did Sadler skip the Pegasus World Cup?
🤣🤣🤣 Equibase figures in the three races, last out to first race were 127, 130, 116...and were not just CA competitors. Yeah...sure... Just a phase. Obviously fading. 🤣🤣🤣 (Yes, this was sarcasm)
Nothing could beat him at a mile and a half. Not slew, bid, skip or chrome....he's a carbon copy 3 year old beginner like Zen but he's got cruise control
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Did you see that guy that jerks his face around with that big metal business mouth he's going to hurt him then what that beautiful gorgeous horse
Флайтлайн от Тапита- прекрасный чемпион, блестящий скакун !
Video ruined by awful music soundtrack
delete drivel please.
I wonder if he has had peppermints, just out of curiosity. I mean, the personality talent bloodlines training conformation and care and everything still has to be there, just wondering if peppermint is that added touch. Several famous horses were fed peppermint treats. Could affect heart size you see. Avoid gmos additives these days and avoid gmo feed too for top athlete horses, and fluoride free water. blessings
Melanie ran a 1:32 mile at hollypark he could do a 1:29
You mean Melair.
Come on. Let's come back to earth a bit.
@@ayalaanthony1488 Yes Melair was her name my cellphone alphabet keystroke changed it as I was typing but the point is one turn miles allow a horse to get into a runaway momentum mode and they run their fastest
@@richd3044 I'm sick of earth the race track is heaven until you meet the small but increasing number of human idiots who spill beer on you and laugh about it
@@bobpats7224 That day when she ran the mile, at 7 furlongs she hit 1:19
I know because I was there! Melair was also trained by Sadler
She destroyed the field including Snow Chief.
Ghostzapper 2.0
HE’S THE NEW CHARLATAN !!!!!!!!
Charlatan disappeared too quickly, so I HOPE he's not the next Charlatan! We want to see him run for awhile.
He's a human flavian prat to boot
Thank God he retired. can't make money on heavy favorites
Sadler always prefer to have young hands and cute face helping for assistant especially if they ware pinky colors,he just to have another 20 year young assistant larry benavides in early 90's
you saying Old Johnny is light in the loafers?
I thought his dad was American Pharoah at first because they look exactly alike!
I'd like to see the comments by the naysayers (East Coasters???) if this vid had included replays of his races.
I'm an East Coaster (at least originally) and I believe
I’m also an east coaster grooming for an east coast trainer at the top level and everybody I speak to is on team Flightline lol
What a crock. You're making this geographical? Does that include Kentucky. That's the heart of the industry. It doesn't matter where the horse ends up training.
Well he's a bit long in the back so that makes for back trouble.....kidney trouble....any if he races on Lasix that just adds to it I would imagine that's why he's got the little Shadow roll on his head.... he runs with his head a bit High which usually indicates back trouble... and Churchill Downs is definitely not a place for back trouble or back end trouble.... but for his Daddy's sake I'm hoping he can handle it.... Skipaway couldn't nor Native Dancer....
@@montanawarren8462 Skipaway had a long illustrious career. He was champion 3yr. old, Twice champion handicap horse , and horse of the year. He earned 9.6 million. He couldn't handle what?? Native ran as a four year old and won the metropolitan handicap. He retired because he had a chronic foot problem. No what couldn't he handle??
They planted bionic chip inside the stitches 🧐
Overrated, as of now
The horse has quality and his races confirm it, when he matures he will be an even better horse. Time will tell how far it can go
Not now though!!!
I d don't think so...
Overrated
The horse has quality and his races confirm it, when he matures he will be an even better horse. Time will tell how far it can go
As,is all thats going on in Cali. hey gave small fields , low purse , Big Trouble all that starts there .Fast ,fast Track surfaces . Just look at the last decade .Horror show.
Might want to delete your embarrassing comment.
@@1031E LOL that was 7 months ago.. I am now convince he is a beast a SUPERHORSE indeed
Made a fool out of you.