PSO2 NGS | Did The EX-Augment Transfer Just SCAM US!?!?
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- I KNOW a lot of you are upset about this. So lets address it. Where you start this video and where you will be at when you end this video, will greatly enhance your play.
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Thank you for covering this topic Spikesxu.
They release a great update, if only without this EX augment shenanigan. They should've either use base pso2 formula where you can drop out 4 selected augments while transferring (at very least for this time), or, give augment compensation for people who did augment and lose their augments during boost period, because EX arrived just too soon.
Even if EX arrived one month later, I think people would be okay with it. Or, If EX + LC would not be actually stronger than Previous top tier people just made, people would be okay with it.
I have an unlucky friend who spent 17 rolls on Glan Gigas Maste during 2nd wave of augment event, and they are really really upset :(.
Also the funny thing is that, it is actually not really hurting whales nor budget players. It is actually hurting the middle class who could've being converted to whales to provide more supplies on scratch items that could've drive the cost down on AC items. It is an extremely short-sighted move from SEGA for a short term boost on their sales but it will cause them to lose paying customers in a long run.
On the bright side though, they only did this for weapons. So I do think if people also commit in units, I think they overall still benefit from the augment event overall.
However, the next uncertainty would be bigger impact, if they do this again for armor, like what if they have EX slots for armors as well, and people need to remake all their armors when that happens.
You're welcome! I definitely hear and understand your sentiments! Indeed though, in that because it was only for weapons it's not as bad. If this would've been dropped with new weapons & units all working the exact same way, there would've been an absolute riot. The frustrations are definitely valid. We shall see how they continue with the Aug Transfer system in the coming months.
@@Spikesxu It is really not about me, I upgraded on day 1 of first week of augment boost day, so I kinda accept it, since I did use the gear for almost a month. Short? Yes indeed, but not as bad to me.
However, I do have a friend, who was unlucky enough to finally get all materials, failed lux halphinale 10+ times in a row, and they got so upset to a point i have not seen them logging on since this update. :(
The problem is Sega sold AC Caps for 3 weeks, they take the money and "forced" the players to destroy what they bought.
And I don't speak about all the item protection loss and mesetas to success enhance BIS augment...
Hello! I would first like to say I definitely hear your concerns and the timing and knowledge of how EX-Augments would work, would've definitely been beneficial. That also being said, no one is being "forced" to destroy what they bought. People are willingly making this choice.
I do think that this would be the troublesome case if they had released both weapons AND units that followed this EX Format, at the same time immediately after the new Anaddi caps. The fact that it's just a weapon, means you're dealing with 1 anaddi vs 3, or even 4 anaddi's if it were weapon & units together.
That being said, the strength is still there for those who invested in anaddi's and full built. Because the investment for the 3 units is still beyond & vastly justified. Well one might say, "But Spike, what if they do this same thing to the units?". To which my response would be, "what if?". The fact of the matter is that, that is not now. And even if that were to be the case, we have at least a month or two to get our minds ready for it. Potentially get multiple Aug Transfer Passes, as we'll be seeing more ways to get them in upcoming events/campaigns, etc etc. NGS is a vertical game so gear will always become obsolete in one way or another as time goes by.
I would like to go full circle & say that no one is forcing anyone to erase their anaddi on their weapon. This is a choice that individuals are willingly making, that is not really currently necessary.
All around however, to conclude. I do agree that SEGA letting the playerbase know how EX Augment Transfers would work beforehand, would've been the correct option.
To add & conclude, now that I think about it. In the NGS Headline, they stated that the Eredim free augment trade was a last-minute decision. So it's possible that they made that adjustment after the fact, and those EX Augs should've been originally locked on Eredim's for a while before people could even get ahold of Augment Transfer Passes.
Nonetheless, quite the situation and we'll be interested to see how things are addressed moving forward. Overall though, it's definitely been a huge addition to the overall grand scope of things and heavily beneficial for 95% of the player base.
Thank you for your response Spikesxu. Sega shared the augmentation transfer system at least 2 month ago, they should have warned us how it works before selling AC Caps or doing Gear Up events... I'm mostly F2P player (take only premium some times, I play the game without selling AC scratch) and even if I don't even buy Anaddi with real money but with mesetas I can't understand the situation. I gambled all my bis aug with item protection 3 weeks ago, know I don't have anymore protection and can't try to gamble anything before a lot of months. I'm sure I'm note the only one in this case.
@@Sizyphe Always glad to converse! Thank you for your input!
They shared that we would get Augment Transfer, however they did not share how it would work, indeed. The issue isn't with Aug Transfer though. We figured that Aug Transfer would just take all your augs & put them on another piece. The issue is that we had no idea about Ex-Augments even existing. Except probably data-miners, which I steer clear of. The sudden appearance of EX Augments & them deciding to make it so that they can be freely traded, is what created this debacle.
If you built top gear, you'll still be fine either way, because you will be able to transfer those augments to whatever with an Aug Transfer Pass by the time a new weapon worthwhile is released. Realistically speaking, while the EX Augments are really good, you're perfectly fine if you already have bis on your Units and Weapon. EX Augs are great but you're still top of the chart if you have bis across all your units and weapon.
The bigger issue would have been if units would have been released at the same time with this system. But considering it's just the weapon, it's not a drastic deal, and definitely heavily benefits the greater good of 90% of the population.
If I were you, I wouldn't stress too heavily about it. Though as previously stated, I definitely do understand & feel your sentiment.
You are not alone. I made a post in official discord feedback section. Sega should compensate players augment lost due to EX transfer, and also work on making clearer communications at least one month prior to a major gear change.
Please take a look if you have time.
@@delightXD I've seen your feedback and already approve it.
2:35 I don't really understand this argument, as someone who was "on the other side of it" (because it was pretty obvious the new fields would bring new weapons, and almost depressingly predictable that they'd do something to sabotage augment transfer).
The reason I don't understand the argument is... allowing EX augments to transfer onto your Lux/Glan Wingard wouldn't have meant the players "on the other side of it" were getting any less. They'd still get EX augments, and it wouldn't be any harder to do so.
The limitation itself does nothing to help players who didn't have an augmented Wingard. Nobody - not the geared players, not the players behind the curve - gained anything from it. It just makes the system worse overall, while directly harming players who geared beforehand.
It's not fair to say the addition of EX augments pays for the non-EX Augment Transfer system being this destructive. EX augments could have been added with non-EX Augment Transfer allowing you to keep augments on the base weapon. The two things are mutually exclusive, and the latter was made worse for no gain.
The other consequence is, now many players are refusing to upgrade their armors with Anaddi augments because they fear there might be EX augments on armors in the near future. If they're right, players who do upgrade in the meantime will be burned again. If they're wrong, they're nerfing themselves for no benefit. Yet again in this game, not knowing what's coming is hurting everyone.
Hello!
The other side is in reference to the grand scope. Yes, all of bodies that were unintentionally sacrificed in the process are unfortunate. But from a greater scope and greater scale, the benefits are substantial when looking at the whole image, as in the entire player base and more readily being able to play other classes competitively without many restrictions.
We all agree that the timing on ex augs & how their means of transfer was off.
That being said, I do definitely hear you in regards to the cautiousness that this causes within the player base with the unknowns of what will be the case with units. This is definitely a very real issue.
@@Spikesxu "the benefits are substantial when looking at the whole image"
Which of the benefits that we got, would we NOT have got, had non-EX Augment Transfer allowed choosing which augments to transfer and which augments on the base weapon to keep?
That's what I'm getting at. There are no "benefits" to that. All the nice elements from this system are still things we'd have got if the system hadn't had this issue.
@@Miraglyth Let me rephrase. For better understanding of this particular instance, Ignore how EX Transfer works. Instead, simply acknowledge that EX Augments exist and how beneficial they are.
I think that's where the confusion is getting caught up on. This is what the 2:35 mark is addressing.
I'm in no means saying that the implementation was perfect. It wasn't. I'm just simply looking at it from a grand scope, not only from my shoes but from others shoes. Placing myself in the shoes of every type of player that plays the game.
@@Spikesxu "Instead, simply acknowledge that EX Augments exist and how beneficial they are."
I am. EX augments are beneficial. Their existence did NOT require a two-tier transfer whose only options are "EX only" and "everything". The two things are mutually exclusive. We didn't pay the latter to get the former.
@@Miraglyth I never said the implementation could not be better. I don't think EX Augments should overwrite non-EX Augs. I simply stated that EX Augments are beneficial. The reference point within the video @ 2:35 that this discussion surrounds, is in direct correlation to that. There's no question that there's other ways that these systems could've been implemented. Many people will, and understandably so, will always suggest varying ways in how all systems in the game can, could've or should be implemented. But the fact of that matter is that, that's not what happened. So instead of focusing too long on spilt milk, I move to what we do have.
Amen to this! I just ended up making my Wingard Wires BiS with the AnAddi capsules fully maxed out and said to myself “I’ll definitely be set for a few months now with this” then a week later Sega just shadow dropped these EX Augs with the headline and after learning about how the Augments Transfer system works I was definitely disappointed because NOW if I want the EX Augs I have to “re-augment” it from scratch which is simply not an option for me after spending so much time farming Duel Quest for Glan, Gladia Soul & GDK.
I absolutely love this new update, don’t get me wrong and I’m very much looking forward to eventually get those EX Augs on my main Wingard but IMO were released a bit too soon and also the way Sega handling the transfer system where it just wipes everything instead of letting you handpick wasn’t the best way to go about it especially after I used the campaign to finally have a BiS weapon. Gonna just stand my ground with my regular Augs on my Wing for the time being until I get at least get a Transfer Pass because right now it isn’t worth it for me to just “wipe out and overwrite” all the time and effort just getting them on my weapon in the first place.
I definitely hear you and understand the sentiment! No reason to rush if it's not within your means, especially if you already fully upgraded. I don't think there's an issue with aug transfer being everything and I do believe it should be like that. However, I do indeed think the EX Augs should've at least allowed you to choose which 3 augments it was going to overwrite. That would've helped tremendously as to preserve some of the more expensive augments like glan gigas maste & lux halphinale. Then you could reaug the cheaper ones.
Nonetheless, the EX Augments are definitely a god send in the grand scope of things!
You’re exactly right! On the other side of the spectrum this new system with EX Augs is a godsend for new players/or having multiple classes that don’t have BiS weapon so in that perspective this definitely is a win-win so I can’t mad, just gotta be patient with my main weapon is all!
@@OmegaXXII That's the spirit!
I've spent the last couple days yelling about this in the feedback chat of the official discord along with a couple dozen other people
Understandably so. Do try to be constructive with how you all address it though. As, just yelling & aimlessly babyraging will only close the ears of those who need to listen.
oh i’m definitely disappointed since i just used the boost event to add glan gigas and lux and ofc annadi… but potency is at 265 without the EX so i also don’t feel much need to run nameless city. Taking a deep breath tho and will farm to future proof.
Exactly. While it's a boost in damage & perks, if you fully upgraded and have top augs anyway, you're still sitting very high up there. Sure, you get a boost from the EX Augments, but it's in no way shape or form a must or necessity. If they had released EX Augs for Units as well at the same time, then it'd be Tremendously more frustrating. But considering it's just the weapon, it's not all that big of an issue. Atop of the points I mentioned as to why it's just better all-around in the grand scope of things. As someone who plays many multiple classes, EX Augments have been an absolute god-send on my end. Just a slight nuisance for my main class/weapon wingard.
Very nice character whoever that was you stood next to. And for the weapons, augs and stuff I’m just taking it easy. I don’t quite understand so just trying to catch on here and there.
Indeed! That's why I stopped & stood next to them. I genuinely have no idea who it was though lmao. I just liked their character/outfit.
And absolute in regards to taking it easy! No need to rush anything. Get a full understanding then make the appropriate moves. That's what a wise person will do!
This is why I waited at the exact moment they announce augmentation transfer, I waited patiently until we know all the information, and I'm glad I did I also told a bunch of people to wait
There wasn't much reason to wait when they announced Augment Transfer. As, naturally, you could just augment and then transfer all your augs over. The regular Augment Transfer was never the issue. It was the shadow drop of EX-Augments that we learned about a week before they released. By then the damage had already been done. As no one expected EX Augs & to be able to transfer them, unless of course they were data miners/partake in data leak information. Which I am not one to do so.
I've been mentioning in my videos since they announced Aug Transfer 2 months ago that I fully expected it to be All Augs Transfer and you can't select one. As, it made much more logical sense to have it work that way. I however, did not for a moment even consider EX Augments. It's also important to note that in the Headline, they clearly stated that it was a last minute decision to make the EX Augment Transfer free from Eredim. So, originally these were only supposed to be on Eredim and not as easily transferrable. Which would've actually made that particular situation better.
Nonetheless, it's fine either way and EX Augs have been greatly beneficial & loved for all the many reasons I listed within the video.
60 mil and a loss of my augments later, I still don't have Glan gigas and lux back due to bad rng luck. It's discouraging knowing I have to grind for months to get back what I just had.
I do understand your sentiment, however no one forced you to erase your augments for the EX augments. At the end of the day, this a decision the individual makes, and is not really a necessary one to hastily make. While the situation was definitely funky, units were not effected by this (fortunately, or there would've been a riot lol). So having top augs on your units plus the presumed top augs you mentioned on your Wingard, is more than enough and you're already far above the standard. The EX Augs are a treat, but there's absolutely no need to "hastily" erase all your augs if you don't have the funds. Because you're still cream of the crop with the top augs you put on there.
@@Spikesxu the q&a in the headline when they announced augment transfer lends to a different sentiment. People voiced concerns that their old gear was useless and worthless for resale value. They suggested augment transfer to allow you to retain the augments you worked for. Sega agreed then released a system that essentially would make your previous augments useless anyway. I understand this won't be an issue when transferring to new weapons, but the fact that their solution involves forcing players to embrace the same situation they dislike right after an event to augment and enhance seems like a bit of a slap to the face.
@@BlacKSye Indeed, definitely understandable & fair frustration.
Memory's a bit fuzzy, so correct me if I'm wrong, but kinda reminds me of what Sega did in winter (?) with the Fluegards where they had some kind of boost campaign (?) but then proceeded to announce that they were releasing a new tier of Better Stuff in a week and killed all hype for the campaign. Feels a bit classic Sega in the sense that they shoot themselves in the foot every now and then.
Totally understand the folks who feel scammed even though I'm not one of them (no Wingard for me).
This kind of move is also the reason why I'm always hesitant about when I upgrade because I always feel like Sega's gonna give it to me from behind one week after I do lol
In a strange way, success rate boosts campaigns actually make me less eager to augment because of this seeming pattern.
Hmmm. I'm not entirely sure in regards to the Flugel launch, but you could indeed be correct. It definitely wouldn't surprise me.
And lol for sure I definitely hear you with the cautiousness & hesitancy in upgrading during boosts lmao. In my case, I just play the game, so I end up having materials for this stuff. I think one way to get in trouble is by waiting specifically for boosts to do things. This puts people in a situation where maybe they feel they "have" to make certain actions, or have to buy certain things. Whereas if you're just playing the game naturally, you'll generally gather materials for all these things & not have to really spend a dime on upgrades. So when those boosts come around or things like these happen where it feels like SEGA shafts you, it doesn't feel like someone just robbed you of your entire life savings.
Or in short. Expect the unexpected & kinda just enjoy the experience as you go.
At very least for flugelgards, the weapon itself is not weaker than upcoming Reyaar if you consider multiple factors, including PB utility, and non-tradable aspect of the weapon itself. Also for Flugelgard case, Lux halphinale was quite accessible to everyone and we did not have Glan Gigas Maste which is a pain to farm, we only had Gigas Maste back then.
Flugelgard still sold for quite a bit. I bought my Flugelgard with BiS augment at that time, two weeks before Reyaar release for 30M, and I still managed to salvage 15M from it after wingard's release.
This EX case is totally different. Firstly we have EX augments that will be stronger than previous BiS that could cost 50M, which is not an okay move.
You never see that drastic power creep in such short period of time.
Say if they release EX augments before MDFS, or they only release one slot of EX at a time, things would be much much better.
Well if some people get pissed off this update , there still an option just wait for the next seasonal event. During the seasonal event your seasonal weapons are the best in that period of time
Hello and thank you for your input!
Actually, here as of the last few seasonal's, they've moved away from seasonal weapons being the clear cut choice for seasonal mobs. Either way though, I agree that there should be a stance of patience. If an individual fully maxed out & put top augs on their weapon, and don't have the means or funds to erase them all & put EX Augs on. Then there's really no reason to. Sure, you get a buff from the EX Augs, but it's not as huge as it would be if say, we had gotten EX augs for our units as well. At which case, naturally this would've been a much bigger issue.
@@Spikesxu mind you I'm going to put my ex into the next seasonal weapons that will be make myself even stronger are you scare of it now
@@heilrider2484 Terrified 😱😱
I saw this coming and just sold all my endgame augs for fat stacks of meseta
Thank you for helping to contribute to those players who like to prioritize gear!
@@SpikesxuIt's the circle of life. I got rich focusing on selling fashing and endgame augs. Now that I'm rich I can finally focus on my gear. I have 202.4 pot now. When I get better armor it will be even higher 😂
@@yourstruly9978 Nice! You were able to find a method that worked for you and that's the big thing about enjoying and experiencing the uniqueness of an MMO!
being over 200 pot, back when 30-50 was max is crazy to me lol
Man, I'm telling ya. Hard to imagine we used to be running with potency at that level & it being "top tier". With only a couple augment slots. Lol oh how times have changed.
As someone who’s always defended the game, with this update after 3 yrs I finally quit, don’t get me wrong the ex caps are a good thing but how they went about it is really scummy, how hard would it of been to be able to select caps to keep like normal affixes? They advertised affix transfers so people like me grinded for months to get bis something I don’t normally do ‘min max’ as I think it’s a waste as gear doesn’t last long enough they even done an upgrade campaign just before the update… then we find out it wipes your wep clean on transfer, it’s a con a desperate money grab for a game on its last legs, same as fixa transfer items being locked behind sg scratch, and after 19 months of no real new content we get an empty box you go around mindlessly killing stuff that looks like it’s running on a ps2, it’s just another ltq in disguise, it’s not an mmo anymore it’s a collection of bad mini games, it should be down to you the cc’s to call sega out! They will do the same thing with units, if it follows the same pattern and new ex caps will release so what’s the point in affix transfers?it will wipe your wep clean as you will want the new better ones, the game never gets any better as cc’s and community just accept the crap thrown at them, mate linked me this vid as a look don’t quit but it just confirms that I’ve made the right choice
Hello!
After reading your response and how you feel about the situation, I do believe that it's best for you to at least take a break from the game. I believe the way you're viewing the game may be a little unhealthy, and that the game's format may not be entirely for you. Also, I would like to note that CC's like myself don't really have the type of power to influence decisions that you may think we have.
I would like to note though that the EX Aug situation is a unique one. Because they clearly stated in the Headline that EX Augment Transfer wasn't originally meant to be free & readily accessible. Which would technically mean we would've potentially avoided this whole issue. However, they decided last minute to make it accessible to everyone by making it free. This was stated in the Headline.
Either way, the situation definitely wasn't a great one. This, we can definitely both agree with.
In regards, to the gameplay, this moreso boils down to a personal case by case basis. Whether you like these types of games or don't. For instance, I've always disliked WoW, and avoid anything that plays like WoW. Even though WoW is a very popular game. It's just never been my cup of tea, those playstyles. So, it's important that you understand that every game should not operate the exact same way as every game. We had this happen for a long time with WoW Clone Cooke-Cutters. NGS is still a game in its infancy and has many years ahead of it where it will continue to grow and produce new ways to play. I always like to remind people that FFXIV took the better part of a decade to become relevant. Yet look at it now.
Make no mistake, NGS is not without faults. As is the case with all games. NGS has plenty of room to improve and will. What you must decide from your personal point, is how you will decide to enjoy these games and what you really want in a game. There is no such thing as a "perfect" game. Especially an MMO. As, even the most "perfect" thing will be the worst thing in at least one person's eyes. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. So it's up to you to find how you'll choose to enjoy these things and if the pros outweigh the cons on your specific list.
Hopefully this response helps, & best of wishes!
Honestly l quitted few times during last 3 years and l came back again and again also quitting isn't a big deal at all funniest thing is people shout out loud when they said ' l quit '
I would like this 10000 times to get sega’s attention if that was a thing lmao
🤣🤣 I would be very appreciative if you were able to do that as well! lol
As I recall all old augments being wiped out during a transfer is how it worked in the base game so I'm not really surprised this was the case
Indeed, it was to be expected with regular Augment Transfer. However, how EX Augments were going to work, was a little in the unknown and was an unexpected announcement (we knew aug transfer was coming, but ex augments caught people by surprise).
I believe the biggest issues were that it happened so quickly after people had just used the enhance event to put top tier augments on their gear. Paired with the fact that these augments are unquestionably better than any of the other off-options.
@@Spikesxu Sega should have had the enhancement event extended by a week to cover the EX augments
@@PhillipRubio578 This indeed would've helped. We actually do get an enhancement boost for Eredim series on the 16th however. The way it was presented is as though it's clearly only for the Eredim series, however there was a, "and more". So it could end up being extended across the board. We shall see!
Really hate that the base game problem is back. EX should have had the S-grade augment system.
Here's a good way to look at it.
If the top most geared players on each server no longer have to hard carry the UQ with a 2-5k dps gap because everyone else is *comparatively* geared, cutting runs down by minutes in quests, then it absolutely is a win. And it in no way affects their personal power. Besides, "gimmick" augs can fluctuate in power offered based on circumstance; but base BiS augs will *always* deliver max power.
Indeed! Great input!
You don't want get upset okie it's easy just ignore the ex and wait for your gears outdated in that time hopefully you'll be getting better
Indeed, patience is a virtue!
for me it seems like painfull for the first time (insert cherry popping jokes here) but then after you get the EX its not a big deal cause you can swap the EX without reaugmenting or using transfer pass AND THEN if you got new gear you can transfer ALL of it without reaugmenting BUT using transfer pass, so yeah its only feels bad the first time
This precisely. Ultimately it feels bad at the surface, but once you start unraveling the layers, it's not really a big deal & all works out. Or, just becomes more bearable lol.
Nope didn't make me angry because i just simply didn't overwrite my expensive augments. But it did annoy me.🤔🤨🧐
Smart man is smart. 🧐😎. No one is forcing anyone to overwrite their augs. It's a conscious choice. An annoying one, but a conscious one, nonetheless. You understand the process. lol.
@@Spikesxu yep that's it exactly.🤔🤨🧐
I usually don't go "all in" on weapon augments but I max out armor augments. I have yet to obtain a wingard so now sounds like the right to create a wingard multi-weapon or two for different class play.
Indeed, units should always be prioritized when augmenting. As they will have the longest shelf life and flexibility.
I'm a little disappointed ngl, but I didn't augment my wingard yet and don't have enough for a transfer pass yet anyway. Since my good augments (minus the ex ones) are on my reyaar I can't sell it, so I'm just going to wait until I get a pass and put them on a weapon I can sell. Plus the support scratch is coming soon I'm just going to be patient and deal with it. Oh well it's just a game so no sense of getting too worked up over it.
Indeed! After all, patience is a virtue! Sounds like you have a plan!
@@Spikesxu Sometimes you have to be the QB in life and call an audible to be able to move the ball forward.
@@Dark_Zeraora Precisely. Adjust and adapt to the situation.
couldn't agree more. I spent 100hours farming to get a wingard and all I got was a launcher. didn't have 25million to buy one. was ready to give up on the game amd move on. the eridem weapons put it on a level field with the wingards now and newbs like me now get 3x 4.5% augments for free and can take it slow to get BiS augs because now we have decent gear to do the missions which give all the good mats. the 1% will still have BiS on their armors and can still brag about being far above us plebs.
Indeed! In the grand scope of things it's been a huge win for the game as a whole! Were some bodies sacrificed in the process? Likely so 😂😂. But for the greater good, it's a huge W.
i understand how you feel if i were you i would end up Pissed off. so, here is a little bit advise from a mid-poor player like me : Don't go for end game expensive augments on the non end game weapon, what i mean is, PSO usually released 15 star weapon and armor right? so i won't spend my super hard earned meseta to max a 11 or 13 star equipment ( because am poor , if u rich, then go ahead max it) . I will use a second stronger aug and even weapon ( if i can't obtain the first strongest) so that i have descent DMG and keep my meseta for 15 star.
I feel like people didn't watch the entire video when they comment thinking that I was pissed off. Please understand and watch the videos in full to understand context. Very rarely am I ever "pissed" about anything, and if I am upset about something, very rarely will a video end with me not explaining or shining light on the better half.
Just use the free stuff and wait until 15* at end game cap.
not knocking anyone's playstyle but i never understood these 50-100m investment on augments without the existence of augment transfer when the power jump from LC is really not very noticeable at all in the gameplay in the overwhelming majority of instances. I'd rather spend my meseta on fashion, and now with aug transfer i'll consider doing the big augs moving forward. Of course its different if you grinded for your augs and didn't buy them, which of more of a matter of preference for how you spend your time playing the game and the goals you have
It's simply how some people enjoy the game. For instance, I've never understood why someone would pay $500 for a pair of shoes. But there's people out there who find joy in it and find it justifiable. It's pretty much the same same. Some people simply like hitting that max. They like pushing themselves in the a video game in whatever various way that is. It's just who they are. Some people prioritize gameplay & gearing. Whereas some people, such as yourself would rather spend meseta on fashion. I personally am a gameplay focused player and fashion comes heavily second or third. Though I completely understand both mentalities & different ways to enjoy playing.
It is 15% difference in dps, there are many reasons why people go for BiS in augments. If you do consider Addis, the difference will be much bigger.
There are players who run Arks Record who chase BiS, but this is only part of them.
There are players who are less skilled like me, so they chase BiS to avoid dragging team behind.
And the most importantly, there are people who go BiS so they can carry the arse out of other players who are not skilled, AND going very cheap on their gears. Like people still using either 9* low fixa weapons with full LC and Triyals, or Argenti (currently Argenku) set or similar, which are about 25%~30% weaker than mainstream gears.
You will think they will upgrade because of this EX augments? No they will not. They will stick to Argenku series (which is actually relatively worse than Argenti era, because of the power creep works) and only upgrade if they cannot meet BP requirement for contents.
I have seen some of the nicest players on ship 2, I really feel the pain for them. They are literally carrying the players who do not deserved to get carried, and this update also hurt them even more.
Kinda sucks that Augment Transfer is "Augment Overwrite" and nothing else. It sucks and feels like borderline false advertisement. Its not what people wanted at all.
Augment Transfer is Augment Transfer. It transfers your augments. We always expected it to fully transfer all of your augments over and that it'd overwrite. What we didn't expect is the EX Augments to be shadow dropped & transferrable. This added an unexpected variable that completely messed up the whole equation. People were gearing in preparation to standard Augment Transfer. Which, there would have been no problem with. You build a weapon, you put anaddi on it, no problem. Augment Transfer comes out, you transfer once the newest big weapon comes out. That was the gameplan. The EX Variables being announced literally a week (not even) before they were released, was an added shadow-drop variable that was crucial information that needed to be known before people started augmenting stuff. That's where the issue came in at. The Augment Transfer system in itself is perfectly fine. It's the EX Augs that create the extra issue.
So people blamed with free capsules too ? Some blamed when AC capsules exist why ?
I'm sorry, I can not understand what exactly your response is trying to inquire or address? Could you elaborate for better understanding.
@@Spikesxuwhy are people upsetting all the time if you do not like the game just leave it
@@lokhanmartin4540 Ah, I see what you meant now.
@@Spikesxu I'll tackle you 💗
This morning me and my clan hell no I'm not gona do it im not looseing my bis augs on my wingard... 2night everyone had to do it and did it lol it is a niceee po boost tho I'm at 250 79 now! Ranger it's insane
Lmao yea that seemed to be the sentiment for most. Like rawwwrrr!! Then they cave & they're like.. Meh whatever this increase is too great not to pass up lmao. I need a Glan Gigas to stick on a off-eredim piece that I'm reaugging with top augs and then I'll be transferring them to my wingard with the EX's.
@Spikesxu I was gona do the historical strength and pp burn thing on my winagard but i decided it's too risky and just went with a safer set with lively hp starlings gradual pressing and sign shielding I'll doo the burn thing on one of the new 11 stars insted.
@@EASTBAY420 The amount of combinations is endless and REALLY create for variable gameplay. There is really no one-all answer for EX Augs. Though surely, many people will tell you so. When I was discussing them on stream, I referenced them to being like the Xover series, in that the Xover series really allows for variable gameplay depending on class & weapon. The EX Augments are this but on crack lmao.
Yep. They got meeeee 😅
😂 they got me too. Happens to the best of us. But we learn how to flip these situations into positives here 💪🏿💪🏿
Bro l put Ex on the Argenti and the dps better than my previous bis build 😂
I'm not even sure what to say to this. It's funny because yea why not, and I mean, hey it is an easy damage increase. But at the same time it's like, I hope you're trolling, why would you do that. Just use an Eredim itself with EX augs on it & then put Triyals on it. It's just as cheap and will be about 1000000% better than the Argenti waste lmao.
Please do not use Argenti or Argenku set. They are about 30% weaker than mainstream gears (I am not talking about BiS here). You think you might be saving meseta in the short run, but in fact, you are lowering your own farming efficiency, you could've use time saved and farm something else, and get your investment back.
Also, although it is not politically correct to say this, but other players absolutely do NOT like others using those cheap gears (unless they are new, they are actually using those to transition out). You might not know how bad they are before hand, but people will avoid playing with you and some people might block you, because you are being cheap to others around you, as well as to yourself.
Please, get appropriate gears, Eredim or Xover/Reyaar/Flugelgard +90 should be minimum. They will retain their value when we get new gears because you can easily convert them into duel quest weapons and continue using them.
Ex aug argenti ftw 😂
@@SpikesxuNot troll bro just trying to say those are free and we should use them instead of getting upset . If we don't use the EX then we aren't going to upgrade anything in future
@@saib500 No, but the Eredim are free too and come +60. That's why it's funny at the same time. Like, why go through the trouble of transferring the EX augs that are already on the Eredim, to a weapon that far underperforms it by literally leaps & bounds, when they both are free weapons and come leveled to some degree. 😂. It's like the individual is making a conscious attempt to do more for less lol.
But at the same time, it's like, yea, if you were really in a struggle situation to that degree, then it would be better to put the EX augments on there if that's really the situation that the person is in. It's just one of those, yea what you're saying makes sense, but at the same time it doesn't make sense. It's like a singularity lmao.
unless you have paid augments this is not really a problem. sorry about your problem but its a problem for the very few.
This situation effected anyone and everyone who puts time into gearing. Regardless of F2P or AC Play.
Tbh honest im a little disappointed with the weapons
But in both disappointed and mad at the fact that my armor has parfaits because i swap classes. Now depending on how armor is going to be implemented or if sega charges the system, i might loose does 3 parfaits in wich case ill have to settle for dual stat and loose out on a third of weapons
I definitely hear & feel your worries there. I also use Deft Parfait versions, so it would be a huge issue having to deal with this with 3 units, instead of just 1 weapon. We'll have to see what the implementations will be like for the units in the coming month(s). Who knows, maybe they'll introduce units that come with full augs all 4.5% pot but expire every 10 hours, so you have to farm them again every day! NOW WOULDN'T THAT BE FUN!? 😐😐😐😐😐🤣