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Milwaukee Brushless Impact Driver 2850-20 Vs Brushed Impact Driver 2656-20
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- In This comparison I will test to see the torque rating on the Milwaukee Brushless Impact Driver 2850-20 and the Milwaukee Brushed Impact Driver 2656-20
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Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Thanks so much! Exactly what I was looking for.
Great! I'm happy you found this helpful.
Great vid bro
As a plumber working in new construction residential projects and high rise projects the m18 brushed drill and impact driver both work perfectly in a 8 to 10 hour work period.
Yea, from my experience both brushed/brushless drill and impact drivers are solid tools.
Very good I just purchased the brushed version. I’m an apprentice plumber. So excited to go try this Monday. Lol
Great comparison!
Respect! And thanks for watching.
Just got this 2850-20 kit (with the 2.0, charger, and bag) sealed for 80$ shipped. It's my first brushless as I'm coming from the one+ Ryobi platform. The difference in sound is interesting. Not only quieter but a little more electric sounding (if that makes any sense at all). Kind of like the first time you drive/hear a rotary engine after driving piston engines your whole life.
You got a nice deal, and great choice. Yes, the new brushless motors are cool. They are more durable, more compact and they spin a little faster than brushed motors.
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds Moving up from Ryobi is a smart move. You got a great deal and have a better tool.
Thank you. This was helpful with my shopping choice :)
Oh, great. Which one did you get?
Helloooo, which one did you get?
Like the presentation. Subscribed.
Thank you! Welcome to the Crafty Family.
Thanks for the upload, I own the brushed version and now I know what a beast it is.
Thanks for watching.
you mean the "brushless" version ?
@@Othermind972 no
They are good new but don’t take abuse so I have both now
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds can you send the link for that wrench you used to torque the rim bolts?
Thank you ...Excellent video
Much respect and thanks for watching!
I had never thought of that technique for testing torque on the drivers! I'm gonna try it out with my 7 year old brushed impact driver vs a new brushless one tomorrow.
Oh, sure. Give it a shot! Thanks for checking out the video.
thanks for the info
Your welcome! Thanks for watching.
Nice review I'm going to pick this up after returning the DeWalt 809 driver
Great choice 👍🏾
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Funny, I ran across this video and I actually have both of these drivers. They are so similar in speed, torque and power that I don't favor one over the other. However, I am leery of brushless tools as all of the extra electronics are a huge failure point and their longevity is questionable to doubtful. I still have two Milwaukee drills and a deck screw gun from 1995 when I started my business and I doubt any brushless or even any tool with mosfets and circuit boards will last half as long.
Wow, from 95 and still going! Yea, the new brushless motors will have to prove their quality and durability.
I’ll check back in ten years to ask about the brushless
Amigo como va ese test de durabilidad?
Hey,
Can you send where you have found your 1/2 adaptor ?
I want to know where to buy that socket wrench you used to tighten the bolts on the rim i love that thing
is anyone going to talk about the lack of an extension? I feel it gives a better grip to the screw. Anyone else agree or disagree?
I have the brushed driver and use it on everything including car suspension part with no problems.
Yea, the brushed impact is pretty solid as well.
would there b any performance difference if the 2656 (non brushless) if it had a 3.0 battery? Or does that just help the battery life?
Depends, if you’re using the High Output, it will increase power, less battery, if you use High Capacity it will have less power longer battery
I think I have the same brushless and it takes off 150/FT LB lugnuts from my truck no issues.
Yea, the brushless is my go to. I like the fact that its lightweight and powerful.
I had the brushed version. Now I have the fuel brushless version. It’s miles better
Brushless is the way to go. Brushed motors will soon be a thing of the past.
@CraftyWorkshopBuilds i read brushless you cant replace the motor if wear out. Brushed you czn replace the brushed motor.
Merci pour cette vidéo, je sais laquelle je vais devoir acheter maintenant.
Can I use the the same battery for both?
Yes, the batteries are interchangeable.
Fantastic video def worth subscribing to, this was super informative, is there a chance you could use them to tighten a bolt on something and then use the torque meter to see how well they actually secured the bolt or nut?
Welcome to the Crafty family! That's actually a good Idea. I'm currently working on another comparison video, and I'm going to include that test.
I have the single speed brushless model and there is play where the metal housing mounts in the plastic frame. Is that normal?
No that's not normal, mine is solid.
The play is very minimal and does not effect it in any way it's just slightly disappointing.
@@strr60sevenunsolicited61 contact them. they have great cs
Thank you, I've been looking around to see if there were any videos of these little impact drivers in combo kits being used to remove lug nuts on cars.
Also need a driver for small projects around the house and shop.
Big ups
Ok, cool. I'm happy this video was able to help you. Thanks for watching
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds ended up getting a combo kit on sale the 2999-22CXC Fuel M18 kit at Home Depot. Came with the M18 Fuel Surge 2760-20 hydraulic impact driver, and the M18 Fuel 2804-20 Hammer Drill.
Hopefully the 2760-20 works okay like the ones you showed, otherwise I'll be sad.
Oh okay, hopefully it does. Let me know how it performs, when you test it out.
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds haven't had a chance to try it on my car just yet but my car's torque specs aren't sky high, 80-90ft-lbs, but another UA-camr tried this impact drill on a truck's lug nut and it couldn't break it loose. 😢
All good though, I can always break it loose by hand then use the tool to get it off completely.
Yea, you might have to break it loose by hand then use the impact to do the rest. If you want the tool to do all the work, you might have to consider an 1/2 drive impact that's rated for more ft pounds of torque.
I have the brushless combo kit paid $220 for it with the 2 year warranty and 2 a.h batteries
I have the same combo kit. I like how compact they are.
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds me to the work perfect for my job as well as at home especially work most the shop on air hose and compressors beat dragging a hose around for sure wish I would of got the fuel in a way but am still very happy now just need bigger battery and I'm gravy
Bigger battery more power for using these drills as he is using. My advice do your research before purchase also consider voltage platforms example 12volts, 18volts, 20volts, 60volts etc. Happy researching
Brushless n brushed Milwaukee impact and drills can’t take advantage of high output battery’s it just more run time for them, fuel is what you want to take advantage of high output.
@@Ethnosis regular brushed 4.5 angle grinder definitely takes advantage of high output batteries. I work with Milwaukee tools every day. And swapped all my xc's for H.O and performance is much higher. (not sure of overall life of tool though)
I can't trust someone who pulls up when they are doing anything with lugnuts lol.
Hes wearing flip flops 🤦♂️ lol
😂😂😂😂
And what's the difference between those two?🤔
Why do they even produce brushed motors still?
I never realized that the small bits could be put directly in an impact driver, I thought they would go in too far and get stuck. I guess I should have looked at how far in the locking adapters go in.
Yea, the small bits can fit but they are not ideal. I only used these because I only had one of the regular size bits and a bunch of the small bits. To make the test more fair, I used the small bits in both impact drivers.
I also just got the m12 fuel kit just like that but on m12 platform, I was gonna get a matco drill and impact driver but this time the Milwaukee was cheaper I got some discounts ended paying 250$ for the kit and an extra 2.0 battery.
If I would be getting the equivalent tools on matco infinium 12v with no batteries of charger I would be paying over $280 for brushed motors, I do own infinium tools but I go for the better price on either Milwaukee of infinium
Milwaukee Is a decent brand and I like their warranty, still a good buy.
It is, my dad in law b has about 7 years with his m12 red kit I bought for him and just know he's needed new batteries
Wow m, that's awesome.
Good video. Answer some questions for me
I'm happy this video was able to answer some of your questions
Most people with these tools have trucks to give you heads up so go higher voltage impact driver
That impact on not the “fuel version?” It’s just a “brushless” right?
Yes, it's just a brushless.
What torque wrench and meter is that
It’s an AC Delco
He really put tiny 1 inch bits in the collets lmao
Lol
Tire lugs are different from truck lugs consider this also when purchase this tools
Duh
not really. they just get torqued higher generall. also should be using an impact wrench for this. not a driver
Should of tried lug nuts before you torqued them when they were tight
How would you know how tight they were before I torque them?
Whats the point of having Brushless and the Fuel Brushless when the price difference is neglectable? And the Fuel Brushless tools are vastly superior.
Marketing
I just got my 2851-20 today and the light on my brushed impact is better... little disappointing but I don’t work in the dark too often so I can deal with it ool
Yea, same for me. I don't work in the dark and I won't ever rely on only the tool light, because they aren't bright enough.
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds Yeah definelty a reason for me to keep a spare headlight around haha. Great video!
all good except for the back ground music
There’s a big difference from the Fuel brushless to the non fuel.
Yes.
Which is the best
@@mr.febrian9248brushless is best
Brushless are the best
For sure!
The screw test was just bad positioning. I did the test with both brush and hex. Both screwed and and pulled out at the same time lol.
Not gonna lie this is a good video, I'm surprised Milwaukee hasn't bought it off you to put on their website lol.
Lol, hopefully they will.
@@CraftyWorkshopBuilds I'm sure like me, everyone went from there website to here. When you Google Milwaukee brushless vs brushed it goes directly to this video.