What a gentleman and. Poet, scholer, soldier inspiration...words of advice in light of death never fear or be anyone's stooge...I Claudius is a compelling vision in an age today when it's easy to eschew books and written stories
Martin Amis has a story that he and his raffish friends in their gap year looked him up on Mallorca and one wag, as they looked at the sea (frying on acid), gazed up and ordered Graves to "make that cloud disappear." Graves IS a god upon this earth. Goodbye and the Claudius novels AND a short story called The Shout are utter utter masterpieces. love him to bits.
Your admiration would be vaguely admirable, except that you made the risible and fatuous claim that he's a god (presumably purposeful to you because you emphasized it). No man who has ever lived can or should be called a god, let alone this man, who seems bland in interview, and is a very bland poet (which is how he wanted to view himself). I can think of only two poems of his which are memorable and they're both six or seven lines long. "The White Goddess" is very suggestive. Admittedly I've not read "I, Claudius" - which he dismissed as a pot boiler, though I'm imagining it has to be better than his poetry.
This woman is nearly as interesting as Graves himself. She performs her job exquisitely in an object lesson suitable for any interviewer. You get the impression of brilliance but she doesn't stoop to showing it off. Clever, wise, and poised to a degree shocking for her age, and authentic enough to throw some authenticity away by cultivating a very artificial appearance. All in all seemingly a whole person, again nearly as much as Graves, and that's saying a lot. What an unexpected pleasure. The present day almost can't produce a person like her.
Yes, it made for a delightful tension. How much of it was deliberate is hard to say. Was she aware of herself? Was she charmed or was she contemplating toying with the old boy? He handled it remarkably I think and addressed it within his responses although she probably didn't anticipate the sharp shooting responses. Towards the end she is literally tapping to attention her thigh. I certainly hope she wasn't a cruel one. Sigh
Well she certainly is promoting that interest. This is the magic in which graves speaks. The truth is at any given moment she could appear drab and even not particularily attractive but tone of voice, the way one lays their head on their hand ,a tilt to the torso etc, can go a long way in creating a cosmic illusion . Lol. When in actual fact what is represented is just another couple of ridiculous cartoon characters. Gather rosebuds as ye may. Avoid addictions but dont be a damned fool. Lol
Graves having trouble with one of his eyebrows. She is really projecting and he is trying not to notice those legs that go up to her neck. One squirms I suppose as the camera rolls.
That woman, cleverness, great legs and other parts on display..typical late 60,s.... and him the relic of a bygone age of public schoolboys. What a great combination. He comes across so well, so ’real’ as he says. Magic for me is being expanded, self enquiring...the crisis he talks about is happening now.
Interviewer: "When you were in the trenches, was there one thing you missed the most?" Graves: "Kippers, since you ask!" And, later, he sings the jingle about Ticklers jam. Wonderful stuff from a genuine man of great talent and wisdom. His strong preference for the word 'womanliness' over 'feminine' is so insightful.
@@bedstuyrover I'm not sure how he sees it as insightful either, but I'll endeavour to offer a potential answer of what I think Robert Grave's views might be. I'm a little lazy so I'll rely on a quotation from Wikipedia on some Latin history on the time of Claudius I, of whom I assume Grave had an extensive knowledge of, and of his time period and generation's laws and virtues regarding normative behaviours associated to women; ''In the Republican era, Cicero offered Claudia's exceptional reputation for pudicitia (sexual virtue) as the moral opposite to Clodia's, to undermine the latter's moral fitness to offer testimony against his client; and to accentuate the infamy of Clodia's brother Clodius, accused of deliberate sacrilege at Magna Mater's festival. The emperor Claudius claimed Claudia as an ancestor and may have promoted her cult, alongside that of Magna Mater and her divine consort, Attis'' and also; ''Roman histories and stories describe Quinta Claudia as castissima femina (purest or most virtuous woman) in Rome'' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinta_Claudia I too, am curious about this as you are. The early idea of the ''castissima femina'' offer a kind of exemplar of the Roman republic's idea of the virtuous woman, and here there are specific features of her attitudes and requirements of her morals that are incontradiction with the more Anglo-Saxon, as Graves sees it, connotation of the word ''sorcery'' with ''womanliness'', the bewitching and very morally ambigious nature that entails as compared to the chastity associated with the Roman maiden. The Roman castissima femina Quinta Claudia did not in her role as ideal femina actually invert the Roman patriarchal dominance exemplified in the ''optimus vir'', the ideal man, but was there as a kind of guarantor of his virtue by acting as his auxiliary. That is why no matter how powerful women could become in the Roman republic as opposed to past societies, their roles remained those of performing auxiliary male duties; the raising of armies, the printing of coin with her likeness on it, like Fulvia during her marriage to Mark Antony.
Mr Graves is a lot more at ease in this interview compared to others. Could be due to the style of the interviewer but he reacts better. In many interviews he is defensive and spars with them linguistically. Towering intellect.
8:37 Can a woman have magic in her legs, Robert? Undeniably shapely as they are, she is laying it on pretty thick for the period, the setting, the guest. I think she's out to tease him. Perhaps she has read his eyebrow-raising poem The Beast (published in 1940). Very interesting interview. My thanks to the uploader.
"All I object to with people [men] wearing their hair long is that they wear the wrong hats with them; they should wear big hats, like the Cavaliers wear them." Robert Graves puts in proper perspective the ferocious debate in the 1960s over men's hair. Only the guys in the ten-gallons got it right.
This interview is very special in what is being represented under the surface. I hope when I am Graves age I can handle it with this much poise. Although this interview is a delight there is a painful undertone that pulls and tugs at the chest. I would compare it to another painful realization a man of my age and experience has been glimpsing of late. And that is just as much as I came to appreciate literature and this art form since my late teens in the late eighties, I now understand that the writers I've been exploring were a dieing breed. A dieing time. Literally. You do in fact realize dear cousins that Rock N Roll has physically left the building in the past 5 yrs dont you? They died. About 6 months ago I claimed we were becoming something and about to be living in a world not worth living in . I certainly didn't expect this. So,....what's it gonna be then eh? The price we will be paying for peace oh my brothers and only friends is a world of castration if not perpetual infancy. Whoops, went off the rails there again.
Just had a dream I was in a cemetery, read his headstone , someone says “ Robert Graves was a famous writer.” Woke up looked him up, never heard of dude
Sometimes I find it hard to watch an interview with a man I have so much respect for. I really wish the questions had been more centred on his gift for writing. I’m not disappointed by his voice which immediately conveys someone of education and civilisation, and that’s not to sound snobby at all. The fact is, after reading I Claudius there is little I’ve found in historical fiction to compare with Graves.
And I agree with the sentiment. Interviews can definitely disappoint - when you expect or want to admire someone as being “more” than others. It’s dispelling; But, I think ultimately it’s a positive. As a antithesis which tells us not to put all our faith in anyone.
Cathy Newman: "So what you're saying, Mr Graves, is that white men are privileged and that WW1 wouldn't have happened if we'd elected Mr Corbyn?" Robert Graves: "?".
12:01 Ohhhhhh The tranquility of not seeing the storm clouds in the West . Meanwhile the static fuzz of it pushed under the writers nose to be expressed but not explained. Falls on deaf ears. Do cartwheels, spit fire or lay on your side for 40 days in lamentation. All for not. No snakes and snails or puppy dog tails. Just mask the truth under the veil of politeness and pleasantries . Might as well. Sitting ducks.
This interviewer's voice sounds familiar. It reminds me of the interviewer in the movie 'A Clockwork Orange,' Where young Alex is asked questions about his experience under the Ludovicco technique at the home dining table of one of his victims. The spaghetti scene . I need to check that. The voice is a dead ringer but is it the woman herself?
Well I agree to this extent: Freud said we are all bisexual. But there are massive differences between men and women; see the compilation by Julia Tourianski steemit.com/men/@bravetheworld/50-real-differences-between-men-and-women
@Jyl Freeman Spoken like a true woman ('female' if you prefer to sound like a veterinary patient) of a certain type, one who bought her mind at the plate glass campus bookstore, fit it all in her bag, and walked grimly home. Madam, you've wasted your years and that's putting it nicely.
@@stephaniebarron52 Stupid men, at times yes. At other times, men who simply don't exist except in crude stereotypes. Kind of like the colonial who assumes implausibly every last cliched characteristic of the people of the mother country (e.g. the New Zealander of lore, tedious or charming according to one's taste, who's "more English than the English"). This is frequently the characteristic also of drag queens who, being not to the manner born, make some people cringe. Others, of course, really like that sort of thing.
He is like someone from the world of faery or myth,,like the green children of Woolpit,, a world infinitely more mysterious than our own,Here he is sparring with his Muse,, eternal feminine beauty,,I had a tryst with that hair from the beginning of time,She is The White Goddess And she talks about unisex,,what absurdity
What on earth is he wearing? Could it be a fashionable (in the 1960s) collarless jacket of leather? My father got in trouble with his employer in the 1960s for wearing something similar, although not of leather. I can understand my father making such a mistake, but Robert Graves?
Mostly men commenting here, as always, and the women are mostly critical of the woman. While the men praise her. Is she just a comical creature, or a complete human being, like him?
He strikes me here as bland and vague, to the point of being embarrassing. "The White Goddess" is valuable and suggestive. His poetry is almost invariably bland. He himself dismissed "I, Claudius" as a potboiler written so that he could write poetry, which isn't a tenth as good as several other poets of the 20th century. What he says about magic and sorcery is less interesting than what I've heard people say about it in the pub.
I disagree with his definition of love. To me love and sex are too different things; the former is a universal and unconditional intuitive, deep, spiritual, soul nurishing, warm, life affirming state of being particularly with those of real affinity; the latter is just a physical act, often used as a means to pro-create.
EgoShredder Now, you say sex is just a a means to an end, the end being procreation and yet I can think of many reasons why sex can be "spiritual, deep, intuitive, warm and life affirming, etc". Sex is intuitive as it allows for the individuals to express their love with equal measure (yet this is dependant upon disposition and circumstance) and not only this but it allows for the freedom of sexual pleasure and what follows, namely, sexual liberation and a life affirming state of affairs due to the very nature of expressing what may have been previously repressed. Furthermore sex can also be universal as the majority of species partake with such engagements, furthermore sex can be literally deep and figuratively deep as consequently one feels a depth of emotion, a well spring of several emotions in fact when and after having sex, as for the spirituality of sexuality and the soul nourishing qualities I am not apt to comment for I do not whole heartedly believe or know of any spirit and or soul apart form the human organism. I would go so far as to say that there is a spectrum of love, sexual, platonic, marital, motherly, fatherly, required, unrequited, necessary, unnecessary, etc, and all of these loves are in themselves ends and they all for the most part with exceptions give rise to pleasurable sensations while allowing solidarity to arise within the individual. The loves aforementioned are ends in themselves as their sole purpose is not to lead to further qualities of experience although I have mentioned that they do and I think that for the most part the definition of sex, love, the expressions of such aspects of life and the definitions and philosophical values placed upon such aspects are a matter of value judgments, in this case the former qualities mentioned differ depending upon the individual In question and thus to be able to say that love is absolutely one thing or another would be wrong, I am not saying that this is what you have done, for it doesn't seem as if you have, all I ask is for you to question your own representations of the qualities mentioned and consider the relativity of love and by this I mean the differentiation between definition, values, experiences, etc, which can be and are for the most part dependant upon the individual and change accordingly. It doesn't seem as if you have any positive evidence to support your case of giving sex a monotonous tone by affirming that it is a means to procreation (this I do not wholly doubt, but it doesn't have to be limited to this)and apart from a whole host of several life affirming qualities which gives rise to important, intriguing and fascinating aspects of the personality. If you ever do read this, thank you and I hope you enjoy the content.
Smoke me a kipper i'll be back for breakfast - personally as a man if I was allowed by society to be emotional I am sure I would be more emotional then the Feminine.
I love him at this great distance. His talent, emotional intelligence & depth of character are so grand.
Never seen Mr Graves on film before. Thanks for posting. Absolutely riveting.
What a gentleman and. Poet, scholer, soldier inspiration...words of advice in light of death never fear or be anyone's stooge...I Claudius is a compelling vision in an age today when it's easy to eschew books and written stories
The man lives! Thanks for posting.... big fan of the White Goddess and I Claudius!
Martin Amis has a story that he and his raffish friends in their gap year looked him up on Mallorca and one wag, as they looked at the sea (frying on acid), gazed up and ordered Graves to "make that cloud disappear." Graves IS a god upon this earth. Goodbye and the Claudius novels AND a short story called The Shout are utter utter masterpieces. love him to bits.
Your admiration would be vaguely admirable, except that you made the risible and fatuous claim that he's a god (presumably purposeful to you because you emphasized it). No man who has ever lived can or should be called a god, let alone this man, who seems bland in interview, and is a very bland poet (which is how he wanted to view himself). I can think of only two poems of his which are memorable and they're both six or seven lines long. "The White Goddess" is very suggestive. Admittedly I've not read "I, Claudius" - which he dismissed as a pot boiler, though I'm imagining it has to be better than his poetry.
@@jimnewcombe7584 you really dont like graves do you
This woman is nearly as interesting as Graves himself. She performs her job exquisitely in an object lesson suitable for any interviewer. You get the impression of brilliance but she doesn't stoop to showing it off. Clever, wise, and poised to a degree shocking for her age, and authentic enough to throw some authenticity away by cultivating a very artificial appearance. All in all seemingly a whole person, again nearly as much as Graves, and that's saying a lot.
What an unexpected pleasure. The present day almost can't produce a person like her.
Yes, it made for a delightful tension. How much of it was deliberate is hard to say. Was she aware of herself? Was she charmed or was she contemplating toying with the old boy? He handled it remarkably I think and addressed it within his responses although she probably didn't anticipate the sharp shooting responses. Towards the end she is literally tapping to attention her thigh. I certainly hope she wasn't a cruel one. Sigh
Well she certainly is promoting that interest. This is the magic in which graves speaks. The truth is at any given moment she could appear drab and even not particularily attractive but tone of voice, the way one lays their head on their hand ,a tilt to the torso etc, can go a long way in creating a cosmic illusion . Lol. When in actual fact what is represented is just another couple of ridiculous cartoon characters. Gather rosebuds as ye may. Avoid addictions but dont be a damned fool. Lol
Graves having trouble with one of his eyebrows. She is really projecting and he is trying not to notice those legs that go up to her neck. One squirms I suppose as the camera rolls.
Strange that no one seems to know who she is or was. By name, I mean.
@@IntlPublications Sandra Harris?
That woman, cleverness, great legs and other parts on display..typical late 60,s.... and him the relic of a bygone age of public schoolboys. What a great combination. He comes across so well, so ’real’ as he says. Magic for me is being expanded, self enquiring...the crisis he talks about is happening now.
Great comment.
This is such a precious interview!
Interviewer: "When you were in the trenches, was there one thing you missed the most?"
Graves: "Kippers, since you ask!" And, later, he sings the jingle about Ticklers jam. Wonderful stuff from a genuine man of great talent and wisdom. His strong preference for the word 'womanliness' over 'feminine' is so insightful.
I would appreciate it if you could explain why his preference for womanliness over feminine is so insightful.
@@bedstuyrover I'm not sure how he sees it as insightful either, but I'll endeavour to offer a potential answer of what I think Robert Grave's views might be.
I'm a little lazy so I'll rely on a quotation from Wikipedia on some Latin history on the time of Claudius I, of whom I assume Grave had an extensive knowledge of, and of his time period and generation's laws and virtues regarding normative behaviours associated to women;
''In the Republican era, Cicero offered Claudia's exceptional reputation for pudicitia (sexual virtue) as the moral opposite to Clodia's, to undermine the latter's moral fitness to offer testimony against his client; and to accentuate the infamy of Clodia's brother Clodius, accused of deliberate sacrilege at Magna Mater's festival. The emperor Claudius claimed Claudia as an ancestor and may have promoted her cult, alongside that of Magna Mater and her divine consort, Attis''
and also;
''Roman histories and stories describe Quinta Claudia as castissima femina (purest or most virtuous woman) in Rome''
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinta_Claudia
I too, am curious about this as you are. The early idea of the ''castissima femina'' offer a kind of exemplar of the Roman republic's idea of the virtuous woman, and here there are specific features of her attitudes and requirements of her morals that are incontradiction with the more Anglo-Saxon, as Graves sees it, connotation of the word ''sorcery'' with ''womanliness'', the bewitching and very morally ambigious nature that entails as compared to the chastity associated with the Roman maiden.
The Roman castissima femina Quinta Claudia did not in her role as ideal femina actually invert the Roman patriarchal dominance exemplified in the ''optimus vir'', the ideal man, but was there as a kind of guarantor of his virtue by acting as his auxiliary.
That is why no matter how powerful women could become in the Roman republic as opposed to past societies, their roles remained those of performing auxiliary male duties; the raising of armies, the printing of coin with her likeness on it, like Fulvia during her marriage to Mark Antony.
In a perfect universe, Graves would have played the part of Claudius himself. I can see it. Feel it.
Mr Graves is a lot more at ease in this interview compared to others. Could be due to the style of the interviewer but he reacts better. In many interviews he is defensive and spars with them linguistically. Towering intellect.
8:37 Can a woman have magic in her legs, Robert?
Undeniably shapely as they are, she is laying it on pretty thick for the period, the setting, the guest. I think she's out to tease him. Perhaps she has read his eyebrow-raising poem The Beast (published in 1940).
Very interesting interview. My thanks to the uploader.
A wonderful glimpse into a bygone age.
Can't help but notice that the sound quality here is damn good considering the year.
Perfect audio.
"All I object to with people [men] wearing their hair long is that they wear the wrong hats with them; they should wear big hats, like the Cavaliers wear them." Robert Graves puts in proper perspective the ferocious debate in the 1960s over men's hair. Only the guys in the ten-gallons got it right.
performing miracles in the public service: definition of love
11:26
RESPECT 💫🌱💫💫💫
I've just finished reading "Good-bye to all that"; surprising to see that it has not been dramatized(movie).
The "Queen" Robert Graves met before this interview was Queen Elizabeth II of our time. Just imagine this. RIP to Queen of England.
This interview is very special in what is being represented under the surface. I hope when I am Graves age I can handle it with this much poise. Although this interview is a delight there is a painful undertone that pulls and tugs at the chest. I would compare it to another painful realization a man of my age and experience has been glimpsing of late. And that is just as much as I came to appreciate literature and this art form since my late teens in the late eighties, I now understand that the writers I've been exploring were a dieing breed. A dieing time. Literally. You do in fact realize dear cousins that Rock N Roll has physically left the building in the past 5 yrs dont you? They died. About 6 months ago I claimed we were becoming something and about to be living in a world not worth living in . I certainly didn't expect this. So,....what's it gonna be then eh? The price we will be paying for peace oh my brothers and only friends is a world of castration if not perpetual infancy. Whoops, went off the rails there again.
Kippers, love em.
Just had a dream I was in a cemetery, read his headstone , someone says “ Robert Graves was a famous writer.” Woke up looked him up, never heard of dude
you should read his books man
He was the real Merlin.
Love it when that kind of thing happens.
You've heard of him now...took your time.
Does anyone understands the greek term for "twice dead" mentioned on 16:49? Thanks!
I think Robert Graves said 'deuteropotami', which would mean something like "twice across the river (Styx?)", but I could be wrong.
@@sotony7483He means the 'deuteropotmai' or the "double-fated" in ancient Greek mythology.
Sometimes I find it hard to watch an interview with a man I have so much respect for. I really wish the questions had been more centred on his gift for writing. I’m not disappointed by his voice which immediately conveys someone of education and civilisation, and that’s not to sound snobby at all. The fact is, after reading I Claudius there is little I’ve found in historical fiction to compare with Graves.
Have you tried Roberto Calasso?
And I agree with the sentiment. Interviews can definitely disappoint - when you expect or want to admire someone as being “more” than others. It’s dispelling;
But, I think ultimately it’s a positive. As a antithesis which tells us not to put all our faith in anyone.
"if you can explain Graves let me know" another fine quote. SF/
Mr. Graves is truly an indepedent thinker and the lady wears a nice pair of legs and that's what I see.
Omg, can you imagine if Cathy Newman was the interviewer? Never letting someone with so much intelligence actually talk, and respond to questions?
Cathy Newman: "So what you're saying, Mr Graves, is that white men are privileged and that WW1 wouldn't have happened if we'd elected Mr Corbyn?" Robert Graves: "?".
Goodbye to all that..... Fantastic book..... " If I ever go to war again, let it be with the French " .....
My favorite Brit Poet.
I never knew it was possible to hate the sound of a poet's actual voice.
From what I gather, when he was growing up that was considered a fine and civilized way to speak.
That's your conditioning talking....just as his accent is his.
12:01 Ohhhhhh The tranquility of not seeing the storm clouds in the West . Meanwhile the static fuzz of it pushed under the writers nose to be expressed but not explained. Falls on deaf ears. Do cartwheels, spit fire or lay on your side for 40 days in lamentation. All for not. No snakes and snails or puppy dog tails. Just mask the truth under the veil of politeness and pleasantries . Might as well. Sitting ducks.
This interviewer's voice sounds familiar. It reminds me of the interviewer in the movie 'A Clockwork Orange,' Where young Alex is asked questions about his experience under the Ludovicco technique at the home dining table of one of his victims. The spaghetti scene . I need to check that. The voice is a dead ringer but is it the woman herself?
Sandra Harris, different person I think.
7:05 I wonder if he was referring to Alastair Crowley’s sex magik? All magic is black magic.
No subtitles :(
Its not important what others think of me!
Nobody was ever more enamored of himself than Robert Graves.
Can someone tell me, who is this fascinating woman?
Does anybody know the word he says at 16:50?
@Michael Marlowe Nice one that's great, appreciate it boy
I can tell he’s a poet. I can’t understand anything he says.
did anyone catch what exactly he says at 6:20
"I'm all agen it" I'm all against it. Guessing it's quote from Burns.
@@johnpowys5755 or Groucho Marx
Anyone know the interviewer’s name? Care to share it?
Nobody seems to care, which I find odd.
Sandra Harris, I just learned further below.
@@IntlPublications thanks so much.
His observations on what is now called feminism - as he says, women behaving like men - have all come true - with a vengeance.
Well I agree to this extent: Freud said we are all bisexual. But there are massive differences between men and women; see the compilation by Julia Tourianski steemit.com/men/@bravetheworld/50-real-differences-between-men-and-women
@Jyl Freeman
Spoken like a true woman ('female' if you prefer to sound like a veterinary patient) of a certain type, one who bought her mind at the plate glass campus bookstore, fit it all in her bag, and walked grimly home. Madam, you've wasted your years and that's putting it nicely.
The problem isn't that they "act like men", it's that they act like stupid men.
@@stephaniebarron52 Stupid men, at times yes. At other times, men who simply don't exist except in crude stereotypes.
Kind of like the colonial who assumes implausibly every last cliched characteristic of the people of the mother country (e.g. the New Zealander of lore, tedious or charming according to one's taste, who's "more English than the English").
This is frequently the characteristic also of drag queens who, being not to the manner born, make some people cringe. Others, of course, really like that sort of thing.
Freud was a charlatan, Graves? The real deal (as was Lawrence)
She was the White Goddess he wrote about---
Who is the interviewer?
Sandra Harris.
He is like someone from the world of faery or myth,,like the green children of Woolpit,, a world infinitely more mysterious than our own,Here he is sparring with his Muse,, eternal feminine beauty,,I had a tryst with that hair from the beginning of time,She is The White Goddess And she talks about unisex,,what absurdity
Like crumb, fool said trash blew in and had to split. EF/SF
Name of the interviewer anyone?
What on earth is he wearing? Could it be a fashionable (in the 1960s) collarless jacket of leather? My father got in trouble with his employer in the 1960s for wearing something similar, although not of leather. I can understand my father making such a mistake, but Robert Graves?
A Greek soldier comes back from the Trojan war with first news, and begins with, "Goodbye to all that..."...🍑🍎
There's Gold in them there hills ...... Ummm let me get my pen.
Who is that sexy interviewer?
Yes, indeed, very dishy - love the way she says ' You have confused me a little bit , there' at about 18.43. No idea who she is, though.
I was just thinking that. Damn.
Here she is again...
ua-cam.com/video/JIAVQ-0J-OA/v-deo.html
Her name is Sandra Harris
Oh that naughty little........... kippers. Any more stupid questions my lovely? Lol
The reporter certainly pushes her sexuality that is quite comical to watch in 2019.
Mostly men commenting here, as always, and the women are mostly critical of the woman. While the men praise her. Is she just a comical creature, or a complete human being, like him?
He strikes me here as bland and vague, to the point of being embarrassing. "The White Goddess" is valuable and suggestive. His poetry is almost invariably bland. He himself dismissed "I, Claudius" as a potboiler written so that he could write poetry, which isn't a tenth as good as several other poets of the 20th century. What he says about magic and sorcery is less interesting than what I've heard people say about it in the pub.
Pearls before swine....
5/7
hype from graves who could not write a shopping list😊😊😅😅😅😅😅😅
Interviewer asking some stupid questions, but the legs...Graves putting up with it 'cos of them! ?
I disagree with his definition of love. To me love and sex are too different things; the former is a universal and unconditional intuitive, deep, spiritual, soul nurishing, warm, life affirming state of being particularly with those of real affinity; the latter is just a physical act, often used as a means to pro-create.
EgoShredder Now, you say sex is just a a means to an end, the end being procreation and yet I can think of many reasons why sex can be "spiritual, deep, intuitive, warm and life affirming, etc". Sex is intuitive as it allows for the individuals to express their love with equal measure (yet this is dependant upon disposition and circumstance) and not only this but it allows for the freedom of sexual pleasure and what follows, namely, sexual liberation and a life affirming state of affairs due to the very nature of expressing what may have been previously repressed. Furthermore sex can also be universal as the majority of species partake with such engagements, furthermore sex can be literally deep and figuratively deep as consequently one feels a depth of emotion, a well spring of several emotions in fact when and after having sex, as for the spirituality of sexuality and the soul nourishing qualities I am not apt to comment for I do not whole heartedly believe or know of any spirit and or soul apart form the human organism. I would go so far as to say that there is a spectrum of love, sexual, platonic, marital, motherly, fatherly, required, unrequited, necessary, unnecessary, etc, and all of these loves are in themselves ends and they all for the most part with exceptions give rise to pleasurable sensations while allowing solidarity to arise within the individual. The loves aforementioned are ends in themselves as their sole purpose is not to lead to further qualities of experience although I have mentioned that they do and I think that for the most part the definition of sex, love, the expressions of such aspects of life and the definitions and philosophical values placed upon such aspects are a matter of value judgments, in this case the former qualities mentioned differ depending upon the individual In question and thus to be able to say that love is absolutely one thing or another would be wrong, I am not saying that this is what you have done, for it doesn't seem as if you have, all I ask is for you to question your own representations of the qualities mentioned and consider the relativity of love and by this I mean the differentiation between definition, values, experiences, etc, which can be and are for the most part dependant upon the individual and change accordingly. It doesn't seem as if you have any positive evidence to support your case of giving sex a monotonous tone by affirming that it is a means to procreation (this I do not wholly doubt, but it doesn't have to be limited to this)and apart from a whole host of several life affirming qualities which gives rise to important, intriguing and fascinating aspects of the personality.
If you ever do read this, thank you and I hope you enjoy the content.
Do men like that exist anymore?
Smoke me a kipper i'll be back for breakfast - personally as a man if I was allowed by society to be emotional I am sure I would be more emotional then the Feminine.
Incedible bone structure and intellect.
He was gorgeous when he was young.
What an insufferable woman, bereft of "magic". Loved Graves!