@@forgame That is total watch time ranked, Miko is very high because she stream a lot. Her live viewer are comparable to the five I mentioned ~20k (Peko is more like 35k though)
@@Daivd1111 Well for live views, I can say that Marine and Pekora are the same or even higher (Pekora about 35-40k normally, Marine 30-50k normally but Pekora stream a lot more)
According to Holo Talk, Miko was scouted when only Sora was in Hololive. That would explain why her channel was created a long time before she actually debuted. Though we'll probably never learn much about the interns.
What's so cool and amazing about gen 0 is that everyone has their own amazing story, like Sora is carrying the hololive on its early days Miko being one of the 13 knights of the round table, Suisei and Azki accomplishing their Idol dreams after alot of harships and Roboco is also carrying the agency on its early days, I can't help but to be touched on how amazing their story is and how these wonderful people gather up in one place and made history on their own.
@@shroobctr267 who might know, vtubing circle that day is so small.. idk if im correct but i think sora miko and pekora started vtubing in niconico when hololive is not a thing yet..
The most comfortable Daisenpai to be with. Looking back at her story, so much praise that can never be matched due to the spirit she had to continue forward, along with her really great friends that supported her through and through is just so amazing. Miko’s contribution will always be one of the greatest in hololive, becoming their biggest pillar and bridge to overseas viewers along w/ FBK, Korone, Matsuri, etc. Really proud to see where she is right now.
tl/dw: *Gen 0* is the collective name for VTubers under Cover that started out before/outside the formal "Hololive" structure. While it started out as an unofficial term coined by fans, Cover adopted it because it fits well into the rest of the generational structure and describes the "prototype" nature all of them had in some regard.
I believe AZKi herself also said something to that affect about herself. While she may be Gen 0, she did not officially join Gen 0 until 2022 as shown. In her own words, she is technically both a senpai and kouhai at the same time. In Mikochi’s case, she is technically both a senpai and kouhai towards Mio-sha.
I was amazed by mikochi coz she struggles a lot during those early years but she keeps her spirit to move forward, imagined all your friend making a lot of progress in subscribers but mikochi is struggling a lot to get subs where she think of quitting vtubing but thankfully korone, sora and subaru encourage her to keep fighting and dont lose hope.. thats why i really like mikochi among every holomem, hmm but now i liked everyone in hololive, well we all have a no.1 among them :p
As a new Hololive fan in the past few months, it’s bizarre to think of Miko struggling for relevance among the other mems. She just seems like such a standout personality.
You had to be there, it was kinda surreal because of that one gta clip, I remember checking out her stream after and she had like 200 viewers and as the clip took off even more it became 400, 700 half the chat was English at the time. Now she pulls in 30k viewers. All thanks to GTA.
@@lolkthnxbai man, I envy you. One of my regret is I discover her when she still in hiatus. Hearing her story really make me want to be there with her. You're lagend man
I fell to this hole because of the pekomiko war, at first i like pekora better because she seems fun to watch and the prankster type but later Mikochi seems to appeal a lot for me. Shes very hilarious and cute at the same time too. She really is one of the top comedians in Hololive but knowing her backstory im happy that she overcame the early hardest part of her career. She really makes my day always better when I've watched her legendary lava bucket stream to GTA streams that lifted her career and made people noticed Hololive, then there's pekomiko war and elite English with Coco, her comedic timing and being pon but also being cute and adorable too, (I really think she is the cutest in Hololive too). Her WWE streams that peaked at 114k man and I remember before when she rap at a horror game lol man so many clips of her that is so entertaining to watch I really hope the best for her and she will be forever my favorite ❤️❤️
Miko's videos from before she joined Hololive may have been removed or privated during a dmca or copyright clusterfuck. But in her early vids she occasionally did some mixed reality stuff. Putting her 3D avatar in live action video. It was an interesting concept. It would be cool to see them take another hack now that she is popular.
They really fought hard back in the day. From the 13 Knights of the Roundtable to uncountable clippers etc. It's amazing to be a part of this journey❤❤
I say this many time before . I apologize for not being the truly Mikochi fan . Catching her stream , buying her merch , supachat . All because of my financial problem . But she......... SAKURA MIKO !! Is the one that i will always admire and support through thick and thin , through up and down . Until the day she decided to graduate (i hope not) . She will always have a special place in my heart . SAKURA MIKO BANZAI !!!!!!!
I still remember when her old channel name was like 3.5 space or something like that and she had a bunch of other kinda Kizuna Ai type content. Was a weird time and happy they finally just moved em all to one umbrella, it needed to happen.
Mikochi is a late bloomer cuz it's hard to think for someone to really have her voice and personallity that's why it look fake. But after she show herself playing GTA they start to notice that's who she really is. A Clumsy Eroge Otaku with Childlish voice and Personallity But actually a Kind(but reliable) big sis that need her fan to look after her.
@@venkaramon I think first she try to be a traditional miko(shrine maiden) character. But after not gaining traction, her viewer suggest GTA5 to her, and the chaos pun elite never looked back, and the rest is history!
Mukichii at first is to try making like Kizuna Ai project,at automatically Miko Project is successor Kizuna Ai project,i know from cover corp information
Check her early streams, her voice was actually normal, even prim & proper-like. She's the rare reverse case where her voice regressed from proper to baby. Dunno if it's coz she just got more relaxed or she's playing it up- it def worked for her in the end
@@cyberhikikomori5326 It's all an image. They're making characters and selling their image to the public. It's all business. That's why although I like Hololive and those girls, I can't really become their fan (like spending money on them), because I know that in the end of the day, I will be permiting myself to connect to a person that's just acting to get that money from me. Not that there's anything wrong with that, those girls are working hard to entertain everyone, so they deserve it. However I can't deal with stuff like that, so I prefer to keep an emotional distance with them all, and dedicate myself (and money) to a person that I know, I trust, and I know that personally loves me back.
Ahhh.... It's been like 3 years now. I remember when I was crying with Miko and 35Pbros when GTA5 ended. I'm so happy that Miko didn't give up and keep doing what she do best right now 😁😁😁 Miko is so creative on her stream! FAQ ELITE MIKO!
Gen 0 deep lore now needs a chart It feels like a multiverse thing going on there But yeah in the end I'm glad Miko kinda found her place regardless if it was specifically Hololive or not
Gen 0 is just everyone who didn't debut as a group put into its own group, but since it has OG Sora, their generation has the highest rank. That is my interpretation.
its funny how practically no one treats roboco, miko and suisei as senpais because of how chill and chaotic they can be lmao. on that note, im glad sora is starting to be more included in the usual hololive chaos(looking at that StarAnimal gartic phone collab). sora's 5th anniversary 3D live is soon(prior to writing this comment), be sure to check it out as all of gen 0 is there!
You must not watch a lot then. Roboco Is treated like a senpai a lot especially when behind the scenes stories are told. People are famously afraid of Roboco's pressure line of "let's talk later". Suisei isn't treated publicly as a senpai figure because she prefers people be more casual with her. She's also a massive goof ball behind the scenes. But a lot of people rely on her and look up to her. That's part of being a senpai. Even Miko who publicly is treated as a baby exudes senpai energy behind the scenes. With how good she is at making thumbnails and coming up with original event ideas.
@@venkaramon i generally mean on stream when interacting. i do know how many people respect them, and that was never my point. they dont act like roboco miko or suisei are like their seniors, but they for sure as hell respect them as one. i originally added " " to show that i meant senpai in the usual seniority in corporations. dont know why i removed it
Roboco is treated as a dai-senpai tho. the easiest explanation as to why its not always the case is that she is too PON and will be teased of her PON moments xD
It's insane to see how much Miko and hololive have grown. I started watching miko somewhat when they were still on the old server. I think she had maybe 1k viewers at the time and now shes in the 10's of thousands.
In other words, the Gen-0 are the Pioneers from COVER corp that got absorbed one by one to Hololive which made the hierarchy somewhat confusing in terms of Day of Debut.
Gen 0 is less a "generation" in the traditional sense and moreso a group of girls who had a unique set of debuting circumstances during the early years of Hololive. Cover was trying a bunch of different projects, noticed Hololive was soaring, and migrated those projects to Hololive.
How ironic that gen 1, 2 and gamers are officially Mikochi's senpai and that Azki is also from Gen 0 but is a kauai from Gen 6 and lower. The official debuts of each girl is confusing as hell. xD Honestly, it's so much easier and simpler to have Gen 0 be the senpai of the newer Gen even if they debut at a later date (Officially)
That's not how it works, lol Anyway like explained by Miko gen 0 just means that they don't belong to any generation A: "what gen are you?" B: "none. zero."
if you consider that their "debuts" are the beginning of their careers in the company you could think about the Senpai and kōhai but in the case of gen 0 they will always be senpai because regardless of their "official" debut dates they were already there in one way or another, even before the agency existed. You have to remember what Cover was or is dedicated to before all this, they market virtual reality equipment and streaming software, that's why Sora, Roboco and Miko always had a 3D avatar from the beginning, their main reason to exist was to promote those equipment and software, Miko was in the independent Project of the same company called "Project Miko" which basically was her in augmented reality videos. her UA-cam channel was created before Sora's debut, but she started to use it later.
@@FLHilde If we go by that logic, then only Sora, Roboco, and Miko are the Cover's (entire history) senpais. Suisei wasn't affiliated with the company ecen though she was already a vtuber. That doesn't differ much from most talents that were also already streaming before they got into Hololive. The same thing for Azki too.
No, Suisei debuted oficially after gen 1 and 2, but she was streaming before them as solo. There's a clip of Suisei and Aqua argumenting which one is the senpai and which one the kouhai, Suisei won because even if she debuted after Aqua she had more experience. ua-cam.com/video/aJQWuxSIisE/v-deo.html
Generation 0 was Tokino Sora and Roboco with a mix of early members that were and kind of not really a member of Hololive main branch... But regardless the timeline arrangements and details, I am happy they are now a generation group. But the most surprising for me was that Mio is actually Miko's sempai due to their debut dates XD
Well all the gen 0 is really fit with their status as a zero gen aka starter aka the pillar of hololive, even as Miko mention she and most of gen 0 debut after gen 1 and 2 but still she and other gen 0 exist before them which mean the real senpai still them anyway
Gen 0s? If there were a rarity of characters in gacha for Gen 0. They are SSSSR, they are build different. They are another breed of vtubers from another plane of highee existence. 伝説の存在
I think Miko was actually the first person I’ve watched from hololive way back before I knew hololive was a thing. I remember her playing Minecraft and she used to try to read every English comment lol. It was cute. Also I remember roboco’s video of her eating a burger blowing up on Twitter. I thought it was just some 3d model not an actual person behind it
This also explains why some people toss around the suggestion that one of the characteristics of "Gen 0" is that they were allowed to keep their original streaming model when they joined Hololive/Cover. In reality, they were already part of Hololive/Cover, but the organization structure was not fully revealed yet. The big change to AZKi's model is a clear refutiation to this belief.
In fact vtuber just booming lately in any media social, I hope they're who's build this entertainment company from zero to hero still enthusiastic and always healthy irl to accompany the day that we all have...
One thing that I feel strongly about is how underappreciated Eilene is She is far way ahead of her time, creating meme shitpost videos that wouldn't fly on todays internet She's the most based JP/EN pngtuber way before any vtuber, even before kizuna AI, she's started creating from 2014 She literally helped gave birth to one of the most success vtuber in the industry Mirai Akari She's using the catchphrase "Nyan hello!" as her opener She's also created probably the earliest English speaking Vtuber with Natsumi Moe in 2018 (though as a character she's exist since 2016)
oh men i wish i was there at mikochi's uhm... beginning even before her debut and yeah sadly I'm only knowing robochi just this week ago also I'm amazed sui-chan is solo leveling and even before mikochi as well and loved that she's gen0 cuz I've grown up playing megaman lol which i like Zero from there lol also yeah didn't notice korone was that old too they're my top2 fave miko then korone and now kobo as 3rd peko is 4th sadly rusha...😭 anyways i wish mikochi doesn't graduate like forever 😭 atleast 2 more decades 😭
gen 0 is bit confusing for some ppl esp newcomer, some of them think they all debuted before gen 1 when its only sora,roboco,suisei (indie) or even think they all debuted together, predating hololive and think gen 0 as a whole as hololive founders when its only sora who is that old, nice there is something like this and i recognize the drawing its from someone who make opening for sora's stream (and kotone)
I knew all of this already, but what this image shows very clearly is the high pace at which Roboco, Gen 1, 2 and Gamers debuted. Roboco only "beat" Gen 1 by two months. These days we'd almost consider them the same generation.
Roboco was originally promoted as tech demo of the company, she was debuted in 3D models using their latest tech in mocap Her live2D model actually comes after, in reverse to the hololive generations that only got their 3D models after reaching milestones
@@qorqir5878 you're right. Her model is just so good that I was mistaking it for a live2D. My favorite is her old yukata ribbon that she sports in casual streams
And yet kids nowadays who just new to hololive start comparing each member like gen 5 > gen 0....like wtf??no need to compare this kind of bullshit...just enjoy n support all of them
And make some of the talents remember their 'pre-hololive' vtubing carrier? Bad idea. Also, that's exactly the reason why Aloe retired. People figured her old persona & thing got worse.
To make it simple they made Gen 0 because there was already Gen 1 and 2 and they (Miko, Suisei and AZKi) wouldn't fit those concepts and since their story is a bit confusing putting them all together on gen 0 would make the explanation easier, is that it? But isn't it funny how Sora seems to be closer to AZKi than Roboco?
It's complicated because the choice of name Gen 0, credits to Roboco. Basically, zero = no gen Such high spec thinking can't be deciphered easily for normal people.
If it wasnt for that meme of miko-san when she was playing gta. I wouldnt know about hololive. It was really hard finding from what video was that. I searched google for "red hair anime girl saying nnnnn". Lol
Still wrong because some members have also been vtubers way long before getting in Hololive. And did you even bother looking at Miko's cute timeline graphic? Gen0 has nothing to do about being first in anything. The zero in gen0 isn't the number but more like "nothing". They are the girls that belong to no generation.
I'm so confused , sora is the first member debut , then she is gen 0 right? With miko,azki,roboco,suisei right? Then holo gamers is gen 1 or it was "holo gamers"another project? And which one between holo gamers/gen 0 senpai is? Miko call mio senpai? Or mio call miko senpai? My brain stop working sorry :(
![SAO Author is Miko's Fan [Hololive/EN Subbed]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UJmnk_B8R2M/mqdefault.jpg)
Starting from 2 digits to 20k people watching her everytime she stream now. Truly ELITE inspiration
Yeah, nowadays she is one of maybe the 5 most popular members in Hololive along with Marine, Pekora, Suisei, Aqua
@@Daivd1111 Well she one of the most popular famale steamers last year, iirc rank 5 overall
@@forgame That is total watch time ranked, Miko is very high because she stream a lot. Her live viewer are comparable to the five I mentioned ~20k (Peko is more like 35k though)
@@Daivd1111 Well for live views, I can say that Marine and Pekora are the same or even higher (Pekora about 35-40k normally, Marine 30-50k normally but Pekora stream a lot more)
@@Daivd1111 i think miko's pretty close to 35K nowadays. A few streams i've recently seen was her with around 34k viewers.
All member of 0th gen have their own amazing story
According to Holo Talk, Miko was scouted when only Sora was in Hololive. That would explain why her channel was created a long time before she actually debuted. Though we'll probably never learn much about the interns.
What's so cool and amazing about gen 0 is that everyone has their own amazing story, like Sora is carrying the hololive on its early days Miko being one of the 13 knights of the round table, Suisei and Azki accomplishing their Idol dreams after alot of harships and Roboco is also carrying the agency on its early days, I can't help but to be touched on how amazing their story is and how these wonderful people gather up in one place and made history on their own.
Miko wasn't one of the 13 knights, she's an old Sora fan but not from the first stream
@@shroobctr267 who might know, vtubing circle that day is so small.. idk if im correct but i think sora miko and pekora started vtubing in niconico when hololive is not a thing yet..
@@keishirogane831 they were streaming but not as vtubers
@@keishirogane831 all the 13 knights are known. Miko wasn't one of them.
Anyone can share full story about Miko in the past? I literally jump to this rabbit hole only few months ago . Dont mind my broken english lol
The most comfortable Daisenpai to be with. Looking back at her story, so much praise that can never be matched due to the spirit she had to continue forward, along with her really great friends that supported her through and through is just so amazing. Miko’s contribution will always be one of the greatest in hololive, becoming their biggest pillar and bridge to overseas viewers along w/ FBK, Korone, Matsuri, etc. Really proud to see where she is right now.
Yeah Miko always tell her junior to call her "Mikochi" so they always feel comfortable around her.
This is the most common misunderstanding with Gen 0. It is not the zero before 1, but zero that is 'none'. It's a group of members without a group.
Sooo ... Irys is EN's "gen 0" ? ...
@@ManusiaKagakRusuh Kind of? Unlike the members of JP's gen 0 she does belong to Project: Hope.
@@rszarir
But "Project Hope" is not a group, just like "Project Miko" ...
@@ManusiaKagakRusuh It's not, no. But everyone in gen 0 joined the holoJP branch without being attached to anything, whereas IRyS is.
Should be "Gen Null"
tl/dw:
*Gen 0* is the collective name for VTubers under Cover that started out before/outside the formal "Hololive" structure. While it started out as an unofficial term coined by fans, Cover adopted it because it fits well into the rest of the generational structure and describes the "prototype" nature all of them had in some regard.
surprisingly detailed explanation of the history of gen 0 from elite miko. nice image to show the timeline of gen 0, thanks.
I believe AZKi herself also said something to that affect about herself.
While she may be Gen 0, she did not officially join Gen 0 until 2022 as shown.
In her own words, she is technically both a senpai and kouhai at the same time.
In Mikochi’s case, she is technically both a senpai and kouhai towards Mio-sha.
I was amazed by mikochi coz she struggles a lot during those early years but she keeps her spirit to move forward, imagined all your friend making a lot of progress in subscribers but mikochi is struggling a lot to get subs where she think of quitting vtubing but thankfully korone, sora and subaru encourage her to keep fighting and dont lose hope.. thats why i really like mikochi among every holomem, hmm but now i liked everyone in hololive, well we all have a no.1 among them :p
Don't forget about Mio, she also encouraging her that time (mainly Subaru and Mio)
As a new Hololive fan in the past few months, it’s bizarre to think of Miko struggling for relevance among the other mems. She just seems like such a standout personality.
Mio and Subaru were the main people who made Miko still here today, and Korone was the one who keep Miko spirit up when she hospitalize for 3 months
You had to be there, it was kinda surreal because of that one gta clip, I remember checking out her stream after and she had like 200 viewers and as the clip took off even more it became 400, 700 half the chat was English at the time. Now she pulls in 30k viewers. All thanks to GTA.
@@lolkthnxbai man, I envy you. One of my regret is I discover her when she still in hiatus. Hearing her story really make me want to be there with her. You're lagend man
That… was actually a wildly helpful breakdown of events
I fell to this hole because of the pekomiko war, at first i like pekora better because she seems fun to watch and the prankster type but later Mikochi seems to appeal a lot for me. Shes very hilarious and cute at the same time too. She really is one of the top comedians in Hololive but knowing her backstory im happy that she overcame the early hardest part of her career. She really makes my day always better when I've watched her legendary lava bucket stream to GTA streams that lifted her career and made people noticed Hololive, then there's pekomiko war and elite English with Coco, her comedic timing and being pon but also being cute and adorable too, (I really think she is the cutest in Hololive too). Her WWE streams that peaked at 114k man and I remember before when she rap at a horror game lol man so many clips of her that is so entertaining to watch I really hope the best for her and she will be forever my favorite ❤️❤️
Out of the topic, but i can't wait for Miko holocure gameplay
TYAAA TYAAA AAAAAAAA ORA ORA ORA ORA
I can already hear her shouting ORA ORA ORAAAA
Kiara already played the game with all the new characters
Miko's videos from before she joined Hololive may have been removed or privated during a dmca or copyright clusterfuck. But in her early vids she occasionally did some mixed reality stuff. Putting her 3D avatar in live action video. It was an interesting concept. It would be cool to see them take another hack now that she is popular.
They really fought hard back in the day. From the 13 Knights of the Roundtable to uncountable clippers etc. It's amazing to be a part of this journey❤❤
I say this many time before . I apologize for not being the truly Mikochi fan . Catching her stream , buying her merch , supachat . All because of my financial problem . But she......... SAKURA MIKO !! Is the one that i will always admire and support through thick and thin , through up and down . Until the day she decided to graduate (i hope not) . She will always have a special place in my heart . SAKURA MIKO BANZAI !!!!!!!
I still remember when her old channel name was like 3.5 space or something like that and she had a bunch of other kinda Kizuna Ai type content. Was a weird time and happy they finally just moved em all to one umbrella, it needed to happen.
Are those on her main channel and if not is there anyway i can find them?
@@moggless you can still find a bit on her main channel. In fact, you can even still see it in her debut videos on her channel.
To think Sora predated the Hololive name itself
Gen 0 have a olders and youngest joined member
So proud of Mikomiko 😊
Interesting and useful info, thanks for clipping and translating this!
Awww when she's like like this, she's soo adorable ( she always is in a comedic way) 😘😘😘❤ .
Mikochi is a late bloomer cuz it's hard to think for someone to really have her voice and personallity that's why it look fake. But after she show herself playing GTA they start to notice that's who she really is. A Clumsy Eroge Otaku with Childlish voice and Personallity But actually a Kind(but reliable) big sis that need her fan to look after her.
She has the Luna effect. Even Luna takes sometime to get used to but her viewers have steadily grown and she's also found her footing in the space
@@venkaramon I think first she try to be a traditional miko(shrine maiden) character. But after not gaining traction, her viewer suggest GTA5 to her, and the chaos pun elite never looked back, and the rest is history!
Mukichii at first is to try making like Kizuna Ai project,at automatically Miko Project is successor Kizuna Ai project,i know from cover corp information
Check her early streams, her voice was actually normal, even prim & proper-like. She's the rare reverse case where her voice regressed from proper to baby. Dunno if it's coz she just got more relaxed or she's playing it up- it def worked for her in the end
@@cyberhikikomori5326 It's all an image. They're making characters and selling their image to the public. It's all business. That's why although I like Hololive and those girls, I can't really become their fan (like spending money on them), because I know that in the end of the day, I will be permiting myself to connect to a person that's just acting to get that money from me.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, those girls are working hard to entertain everyone, so they deserve it. However I can't deal with stuff like that, so I prefer to keep an emotional distance with them all, and dedicate myself (and money) to a person that I know, I trust, and I know that personally loves me back.
Ahhh.... It's been like 3 years now. I remember when I was crying with Miko and 35Pbros when GTA5 ended.
I'm so happy that Miko didn't give up and keep doing what she do best right now 😁😁😁
Miko is so creative on her stream! FAQ ELITE MIKO!
Kudos who make that post and for miko explaining everything for us. We who only just watch the stream/videos not knowing when they started. Thank you
Gen 0 deep lore now needs a chart
It feels like a multiverse thing going on there
But yeah in the end I'm glad Miko kinda found her place regardless if it was specifically Hololive or not
Very informative. Thank you.
Gen 0 is just everyone who didn't debut as a group put into its own group, but since it has OG Sora, their generation has the highest rank. That is my interpretation.
its funny how practically no one treats roboco, miko and suisei as senpais because of how chill and chaotic they can be lmao. on that note, im glad sora is starting to be more included in the usual hololive chaos(looking at that StarAnimal gartic phone collab).
sora's 5th anniversary 3D live is soon(prior to writing this comment), be sure to check it out as all of gen 0 is there!
You must not watch a lot then. Roboco Is treated like a senpai a lot especially when behind the scenes stories are told. People are famously afraid of Roboco's pressure line of "let's talk later". Suisei isn't treated publicly as a senpai figure because she prefers people be more casual with her. She's also a massive goof ball behind the scenes. But a lot of people rely on her and look up to her. That's part of being a senpai. Even Miko who publicly is treated as a baby exudes senpai energy behind the scenes. With how good she is at making thumbnails and coming up with original event ideas.
@@venkaramon i generally mean on stream when interacting. i do know how many people respect them, and that was never my point.
they dont act like roboco miko or suisei are like their seniors, but they for sure as hell respect them as one.
i originally added " " to show that i meant senpai in the usual seniority in corporations. dont know why i removed it
Roboco is treated as a dai-senpai tho. the easiest explanation as to why its not always the case is that she is too PON and will be teased of her PON moments xD
the first months of hololive can only be described as a messy project that somehow ended working because of everyone involved did their best
Gen 0 is like the base of a legend book that the main character and his companion read and become their motivation to fight the Demon Lord.
They will be legend for the next decade
It's insane to see how much Miko and hololive have grown. I started watching miko somewhat when they were still on the old server. I think she had maybe 1k viewers at the time and now shes in the 10's of thousands.
Great clip thank you
In other words, the Gen-0 are the Pioneers from COVER corp that got absorbed one by one to Hololive which made the hierarchy somewhat confusing in terms of Day of Debut.
thats the wonder and very fitting number for their gen. unlike the others they weren't a line up but seperated
Very complex.... she explained it well, the pic also helped.
so miko was working undercover for cover,truly an elite
Gen 0 is less a "generation" in the traditional sense and moreso a group of girls who had a unique set of debuting circumstances during the early years of Hololive. Cover was trying a bunch of different projects, noticed Hololive was soaring, and migrated those projects to Hololive.
👍Thanks!!
Thanks you for this clip
Now i can know mikochi much more ❤
Nice clip to explain the timeline!
In short "Don't worry about it" (thumbs up)
How ironic that gen 1, 2 and gamers are officially Mikochi's senpai and that Azki is also from Gen 0 but is a kauai from Gen 6 and lower. The official debuts of each girl is confusing as hell. xD
Honestly, it's so much easier and simpler to have Gen 0 be the senpai of the newer Gen even if they debut at a later date (Officially)
That's not how it works, lol
Anyway like explained by Miko gen 0 just means that they don't belong to any generation
A: "what gen are you?"
B: "none. zero."
if you consider that their "debuts" are the beginning of their careers in the company you could think about the Senpai and kōhai but in the case of gen 0 they will always be senpai because regardless of their "official" debut dates they were already there in one way or another, even before the agency existed. You have to remember what Cover was or is dedicated to before all this, they market virtual reality equipment and streaming software, that's why Sora, Roboco and Miko always had a 3D avatar from the beginning, their main reason to exist was to promote those equipment and software, Miko was in the independent Project of the same company called "Project Miko" which basically was her in augmented reality videos. her UA-cam channel was created before Sora's debut, but she started to use it later.
@@FLHilde If we go by that logic, then only Sora, Roboco, and Miko are the Cover's (entire history) senpais. Suisei wasn't affiliated with the company ecen though she was already a vtuber. That doesn't differ much from most talents that were also already streaming before they got into Hololive. The same thing for Azki too.
I like this voice of Miko
Good thing you like her cute baby elite voice because her IRL Voice doesn't change much....
I was actually a bit confused about this. Glad she explained it.
Leave it to Hololive timeline to be more contrived than the timeline connecting all the Zelda games
Hololive gamers were fbk gamer friends, 0 gen were a group of people cover corp sorta scouted 🤔
So actually only Sora, Roboco and Suisei debut before 1st gen, even Miko debut after 1st gen!!! WOW
Yes if you're talking about debuting as hololive, Miko debut before gen 1 as a non hololive streamer, even polka debut before gen 1
@@ifdy1361 What? Polka in Gen 5? Is her using the same skin?
No, Suisei debuted oficially after gen 1 and 2, but she was streaming before them as solo. There's a clip of Suisei and Aqua argumenting which one is the senpai and which one the kouhai, Suisei won because even if she debuted after Aqua she had more experience.
ua-cam.com/video/aJQWuxSIisE/v-deo.html
@@Daivd1111 No, her previous identity. She used to be someone else before she was Polka, debuted in 2018.
@@Daivd1111 polka in her previous life was senpai in vtubing scene before joined holo as gen 5
Generation 0 was Tokino Sora and Roboco with a mix of early members that were and kind of not really a member of Hololive main branch...
But regardless the timeline arrangements and details, I am happy they are now a generation group. But the most surprising for me was that Mio is actually Miko's sempai due to their debut dates XD
this complicated senpai kouhai relationship between gen 0 and gen 1,2 and mio makes me remember the banter between suisei and aqua xD
Well all the gen 0 is really fit with their status as a zero gen aka starter aka the pillar of hololive, even as Miko mention she and most of gen 0 debut after gen 1 and 2 but still she and other gen 0 exist before them which mean the real senpai still them anyway
This should be taught in history lessons
Gen 0s? If there were a rarity of characters in gacha for Gen 0. They are SSSSR, they are build different. They are another breed of vtubers from another plane of highee existence. 伝説の存在
Even sora sama debut before hololive lol :v..
That's why ppl calls her a CEO
Nice matome
Elite roadmap
This is so understandable
I think Miko was actually the first person I’ve watched from hololive way back before I knew hololive was a thing. I remember her playing Minecraft and she used to try to read every English comment lol. It was cute.
Also I remember roboco’s video of her eating a burger blowing up on Twitter. I thought it was just some 3d model not an actual person behind it
This also explains why some people toss around the suggestion that one of the characteristics of "Gen 0" is that they were allowed to keep their original streaming model when they joined Hololive/Cover. In reality, they were already part of Hololive/Cover, but the organization structure was not fully revealed yet. The big change to AZKi's model is a clear refutiation to this belief.
now that;s make sense about gen 0, since they're not debut as a gen like the others gen but start out individually
damn sora is even longer than the "hololive" name itself
The date format made my brain lagged for a moment...
Journey to the west (digital version)
Baby's First History Lesson
Respect
It's kinda like Cover had different projects going on at at the same time and since Hololive became way popular, they moved everyone there
Ohh that's why!!!
They would double their view count if they had an english translator on their streams. Pretty sure they'd even get people to do that almost for free.
Holodex
Elite Lore
So you can say Miko was underCOVER when she started.
...
I'll see myself out.
i didn’t understand all of that but still know more then i did before at least.
In fact vtuber just booming lately in any media social, I hope they're who's build this entertainment company from zero to hero still enthusiastic and always healthy irl to accompany the day that we all have...
One thing that I feel strongly about is how underappreciated Eilene is
She is far way ahead of her time, creating meme shitpost videos that wouldn't fly on todays internet
She's the most based JP/EN pngtuber way before any vtuber, even before kizuna AI, she's started creating from 2014
She literally helped gave birth to one of the most success vtuber in the industry Mirai Akari
She's using the catchphrase "Nyan hello!" as her opener
She's also created probably the earliest English speaking Vtuber with Natsumi Moe in 2018 (though as a character she's exist since 2016)
oh men i wish i was there at mikochi's uhm... beginning even before her debut
and yeah sadly I'm only knowing robochi just this week ago
also I'm amazed sui-chan is solo leveling and even before mikochi as well
and loved that she's gen0 cuz I've grown up playing megaman lol which i like Zero from there lol
also yeah didn't notice korone was that old too
they're my top2 fave miko then korone and now kobo as 3rd peko is 4th sadly rusha...😭
anyways i wish mikochi doesn't graduate like forever 😭 atleast 2 more decades 😭
Thumbnail got it wrong. Mio is Gamers exclusive. You probably thinking about Fubuki.
gen 0 is bit confusing for some ppl esp newcomer, some of them think they all debuted before gen 1 when its only sora,roboco,suisei (indie) or even think they all debuted together, predating hololive and think gen 0 as a whole as hololive founders when its only sora who is that old, nice there is something like this and i recognize the drawing its from someone who make opening for sora's stream (and kotone)
I knew all of this already, but what this image shows very clearly is the high pace at which Roboco, Gen 1, 2 and Gamers debuted. Roboco only "beat" Gen 1 by two months. These days we'd almost consider them the same generation.
Yep, Kinda like iRys and council.
Roboco was originally promoted as tech demo of the company, she was debuted in 3D models using their latest tech in mocap
Her live2D model actually comes after, in reverse to the hololive generations that only got their 3D models after reaching milestones
@@nietzchan roboco doesnt have l2d
@@qorqir5878 you're right. Her model is just so good that I was mistaking it for a live2D. My favorite is her old yukata ribbon that she sports in casual streams
Founders
nice,,
Miko may be the one of meme-able member among hololive because of her "Elite" nature but she's undeniably a respectable person.
Gen 0 is my oshi
So basically, IRyS is First Gen0 of EN.
Right, so Cover literally went "under cover" at the beginning. Is that how it is?
Vtuber debut
Sora > Roboco > Suichan > gen1 > Miko > gen 2 > Azki > gamer > gen 3
Hololive debut
Holox > Azki
And yet kids nowadays who just new to hololive start comparing each member like gen 5 > gen 0....like wtf??no need to compare this kind of bullshit...just enjoy n support all of them
Oooooohh
Wow Sui-oji is indeed pretty old XD.
Sora Roboco Suisei are literally dai senpais.
I think they should just base it on a talent's entire tenure in the industry (while sticking to their avatar name). It's easier that way. 😊
And make some of the talents remember their 'pre-hololive' vtubing carrier?
Bad idea.
Also, that's exactly the reason why Aloe retired.
People figured her old persona & thing got worse.
To make it simple they made Gen 0 because there was already Gen 1 and 2 and they (Miko, Suisei and AZKi) wouldn't fit those concepts and since their story is a bit confusing putting them all together on gen 0 would make the explanation easier, is that it? But isn't it funny how Sora seems to be closer to AZKi than Roboco?
Sora and Azki probably knew each other from way back.
It's complicated because the choice of name Gen 0, credits to Roboco.
Basically,
zero = no gen
Such high spec thinking can't be deciphered easily for normal people.
A~
Naruhodo~
Misleading thumbnail, Mio isn't a Gen 1.
the thumbnail is wrong, mio is in "hololive gamers" generation, which is between gen2 and 3, not gen1 and exactly when is explained in that picture
I know japanese is hard but damn, Mikocchi put the bar way too high
If it wasnt for that meme of miko-san when she was playing gta. I wouldnt know about hololive. It was really hard finding from what video was that. I searched google for "red hair anime girl saying nnnnn". Lol
So miko is like snake and the rest of them are the la li lu le lo of the holopatriots
Oh they're gen 0 not because they were in hololive earliest but they were a vtuber earliest.
Suichan is Miko's senpai cool
Still wrong because some members have also been vtubers way long before getting in Hololive. And did you even bother looking at Miko's cute timeline graphic?
Gen0 has nothing to do about being first in anything. The zero in gen0 isn't the number but more like "nothing". They are the girls that belong to no generation.
I'm so confused , sora is the first member debut , then she is gen 0 right? With miko,azki,roboco,suisei right? Then holo gamers is gen 1 or it was "holo gamers"another project? And which one between holo gamers/gen 0 senpai is?
Miko call mio senpai? Or mio call miko senpai?
My brain stop working sorry :(
Why the earlier gen mates get 3d model while the rest get 2d first?
I hope her pre-holo videos get restored to the channel some day. I really liked the haunted house she visited with a friend
Thumbnail says mio is in gen 1. Isn’t she after gen 2?
But by that logic, shouldn't IRyS also be "Generation 0"?