WW2 Rare Czech Walther PP and CZ Model 27 | Military and Police Pistols

CORRECTION: Several advanced researchers/collectors have indicted that these Czech markings on the PP were actually Import Marks and not necessarily Police markings. We have not found enough compelling information which would cause us to take down the video, but do want to caution viewers that the markings on this gun could merely be import marks. Either way it is a rare variation of Walther PP from 1939.
Today we explore another variation of the WW2 German Walther pistols, the Czech PP. It was a German-made gun issued to the Czech Police. Only about 600 of these guns were ordered, either PP's or PPK's, making this example extremely rare.
The overarching question here is - Why did the Czech police order these guns from Germany when they had the CZ Model 27 that was already being issued to the police? Tom discusses his theory on this and also talks about Germany's invasion of Czechoslovakia during WW2.

[@jerryjohnsonii4181]

I absolutely love CZ's !!!!!! That is a gorgeous CZ Model 27. Thank you for showing it Sir!!!!!!!!

[@chlebowg]

Excellent find. Czechs would later make a updated version of the PP later as the cz50. Another excellent design.

[@davidabell9358]

Tom you just keeping better and better.I love your video's.

[@thomaswhiteman4261]

Thanks

[@alepag0357]

Very interesting guns.
Will you do a field strip of the CZ 27?

[@thomaswhiteman4261]

I can. But up to my eyeballs in projects so for now, check this out. ua-cam.com/video/6fVtFct39Wk/v-deo.html

[@alepag0357]

Thomas Whiteman Thanks

[@donaldlubin9479]

I recently used your cheat sheet to determine that the PP my stepfather took from a German officer was a third variation Luftwaffe contract gun. I then found out that the holster it was in was for the CZ27. The PP fits like a glove. Perhaps the officer preferred a soft holster over the Walther hard case? Have you run into any PPs with CZ27 holsters?

[@thomaswhiteman4261]

Yes. I often see both PP's and PK's in CZ holsters.

[@silverfingerthesilverstack5062]

I love the CZ 27 pistol, I have had several over the years, my militaria forum has a long standing joke on who can own the most badly finished looking weapon, my CZ 27 is currently the winner, the guns near mint original finish but the metal work looks like a ploughed field, I wish there was a more accurate way to date them, it seems to be early guns high gloss finish, bohemische legend on top of slide, then just the slide high gloss finish and frame military blacked, then even rougher metal work and military black finish all over, finally FNH coded guns, phosphated finish and CZ logo and bohemische removed from grips and top of slide.

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

I'm learning so much from your videos, recently subscribed , How are you able to have so many rare guns to show ?? are they all your collection ? thanks TOMAS in TUCSON

[@KellyMattingly-xn6xv]

I have a CZ 27 with the occupied stamp on it. Love it

[@johnlong9285]

Can a FHN model 27 in 32 acp shoot modern ammunition? I saw on a video that it could only shoot the lightest loads.
Thank you.

[@georgel4600]

hi i hope you can help i have a cz 27 nickel plated Nazi marked i was told that the first one for the Nazi was serial number 21500 in 1941 mine is 2182x can you help with some value or some history, thank you for your videos.

[@tomalexander4327]

I'm not sure it was a case of currying favour more they didn't have a choice and were told who to order them from.

[@thomaswhiteman4261]

Good point. You could be correct.

[@stephenpetroni2471]

PPK 176981K Czech Lion 38 no. 3895 with dedication “Für treue Mitarbeit Prag 1939/40 Geibel, Oberstleutnant”

[@mikeblair2594]

I could use a quickie, but she's asleep. You ain't as pretty, but......

[@mikeblair2594]

I could use a quickie, but she's asleep. You ain't as pretty, but......

[@thomaswhiteman4261]

I understand completely Mike ! And thanks for watching.