China Rising: The challenges for Australia as China and the US struggle for supremacy in Asia
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2016
- Reporter Peter Greste joins Four Corners for a special report on the rise of China and its escalating contest with the United States in the Asia Pacific region. In interviews with key players from the world of diplomacy and strategic affairs, the program explores how Australia is trying to balance two competing interests. You can read more here: ab.co/2dC6XUb
The people who sold the Darwin port to the Chinese should be thrown in jail
slightly wrong Garth. If i am not mistaken, which is ever a possibility, the Port of Darwin is on lease to the Chinese. Surely they must have the brains not to outright sell ?...heaven forbid...throw them in jail anyway haha
Big difference between leased and sold. I don't even know how you could get the wrong when it was so clearly stated at the beginning. Once the lease is up the Australian government better smarten up.
I agree and lets also send the people who nuke japan into jail
@@followthelight69 How long is the lease for?
@@aflaz171 99 year lease on the port of Darwin, by the time its up the world will be a very different place.
Nobody should ever be allowed power over another. If a person, or group, dominates anyone then they should be locked up, to keep humanity safe and free.
The battered wife % is high & many are too afraid to ssy anything or get help. So this is huge % of wives
Looking at boganville islands, free independent nation 🙌 than ran to China 🇨🇳 for financial reasons. Now under China security agreements for 100 years. Now government is playing police forces on its own citizens. From freedom to socialism is not good.
Our politicians sit up there and think we the people are stupid but they’ve been enticed by the money and sold our security to China rather than good management and hard work as in the past has made us thrive.
It was the USA, claiming "strategic national interest" in the South China Sea that opened this door. For year China'a neighbors, notably Vietnam, had been building structures on islands and exploiting oil resources while negotiating with China. With the gauntlet thrown down by the USA, China moved quickly to plant its flag, which is how things got to where they were when this video was made. If the USA can claim strategic national interest at will, why not China or any other country?
“Do as we say, not as we do” 🤷🏾♂️
China is. The US. this is how you get war. As long as North Korea a nuclear armed madhouse is China's ally then there is no discussion to have with them. Wage war, to the last man.
Whose territory did US take by force?
Australia failed to realize how small they are on the world stage.
The acid test, is what China expects compared to what it allows from other countries and nations.
The best strategy, is to make sure they cannot own assets in Australia, and whatever they want to buy or lease, they must pay in physical Gold. Free open trade between Australia has caused hyper inflation here.
This has become a lot worse than what we thought 4 years ago.
Many foreigners have never been to China, only through the government controlled news media to learn about China, the limited understanding is very regrettable.
Have a chance to visit all over the world!
China has 300 million people entering and leaving China every year……
The lady says contributions to a political party does not affect Australian policy. My question is, then why is a Chinese company running the port of Darwin?
Let’s see where the spark will be started, who’ll be the next fall guy in Asia Pacific . Can’t wait 😊
How can US enforce China to leave South China sea when US and UK never left Diego Garcia after ordered to leave by UN.
“Do as we say, not as we do” I believe that term sums up US foreign policy in a nutshell. You think they’d let China run military maneuvers off the Mexican or Canadian coast? 🤔
IF WAR BREAKS OUT THEN WE KICK THEM OUT.
Had to get an advertisement in before anything. Priceless belly laugh that was.
USA only interest is USA first, nothing else. USA feels it cannot contain China anymore in the Taiwan Straits and northern region of South China Sea. Australia therefore plays an important role to reinforce USA interests.
No, the US interest is about world trade and dealing with a China tyrant that has shown its true colors to all its neighbors.
Just WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
The doctor that identified the virus and exposed it. He gave his life. He let people know. Lots of respect! The scientific community should not be muffled. In any way shape or form. We all have to work together.
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In my opinion is the natural order of things...superpowers come and go throughout history and every single one will try to exert their influence on the world...British Empire did it in the 19th Century, America in the 20th Century till now, China seems to be on track to surpass USA some point in the 21st century, by the 22nd who knows? Could still be China, India or maybe some other new country...
After the Hague ruling, why didn't the americans say, "Okay, enough play time. You've got 30 days to get your stuff off these little islands or we'll remove them for you"?
Australia don’t be greedy don’t trade with China please
don't be fool. because Australia economics depends on China for its survival and you must accept that
China is now the new! world power
Cant believe this is 6 years ago
Winning without fighting.
Exactly. Far too nuanced a strategy for the rabid anti-China crowd to grasp. The critics can only imagine military attack because that's what they would do in China's position. Western imperialism is totally different to Chinese values.
Australian and American are brothers, and so we should stick together.
The best policy is Deterence. Better Deterance than WAR.
you spelled it wrong twice
We as the USA need to help Australia. I agree with the Admiral , this looks like WW2 all over China is repeating what Japan did
Main worries about the Samoan civilians as well
@@lomilomitauiliili4220 is it possible for u.s.a to attack iran and conquer it?
@@sumandas9487 up the US, but the main reason about Samoan people becos there government loan the Chinese 2billio dollars ,how the Samoan pple pay that loan?
@@sumandas9487 No way in hell. The US hasn't won a war in over 70 years.
Supremacy for what? To acquire territory for more food or to feed it?
To control Japan Taiwan Australia and yes, control the US through that territory! Wise up!!! China is not doing this for some soya and beans!! Total communist power because they have tbe clout.
That last blessing goes to the USA marines at camp Darwin and their stateside compatriot class of service men at north Carolina camp Pendleton
as long as we read these comments with a chinese made mouse there's nothing to talk about...
Oh how the tables have turned now in 2020☣
I would not trust any government but I still don't understand what exactly America is doing in that part of the world. They need to withdraw their military bases from around the world. The world is getting tired of this aging empire.
You are very right.
Having the biggest military is a huge economic drain...
Having the most advanced military puts you in the strongest position..
Worry about China getting military tech, not size...
UA-cam has gotten out of control with all of these commercial. Damn every 6 min is a 30 sec commercial
Good for Them
Manila Needs To Have Several Coast Guard Ship Patrolling Their Waters So They Can Fish Their Waters
@Tom Koller We can see that you spent a long time constructing that nuanced argument. Why not publish it as a work of non-fiction? Don't limit yourself.
I’m afraid Julie Bishop has her wires crossed.
Hate to say it but it appears the LNP and LP could end up having the blood of Australia’s sovereignty on their hands. All for financial donations from CCP.
When westernized Japan and actual westerners had power - they built up the miliary and no qualms invading China.
@Lucky Yiw Pray it needn't come to that.
Thucydides Trap
@@mata2nz In a sense - but i lean more to America's war economy.
@Lucky Yiw Ah you musta be ahhh China person. Ahhh China person love the worda pulverize!
How does Australians feel when china says that Australia is like a gum stuck on their shoes.
Im Australian and i feel that our gum can stop china in its tracks! We refuse to buy anything made in China now
As war with China can't be prevented and medical can't stop bullying so let's the war start.
God bless you all Man in uniform 💪
And we are letting it happen. !!!
So that is how I see it.
“Are you concerned about the tension between those economic and strategic interests here?”
*Julie Bishop* - “No, I believe that we are able to balance those competing interests”
*corona* “girl heeeyy”
"before we actually need to be *EMPLOYED* anywhere"..... EMPLOYED (NOT deployed) . The U.S. military EMPLOYED in a foreign nation
Germany from 1920- 1945 also printed money, so yes they did well but that does not mean there is a level playing field to compare a Chinese company with a free company. Looks like someone got paid off.
Did I hear the reporter stating Japan being the US alliance since WW2! Japan was the enemy US fought in WW2. In addition, Japan invasion of China stopped Chinese effort to wipe out Mao and communists and Soviet handed over the post war Japanese resources to Mao defeated the democratic national Chinese and crested PRC. South China Sea ownership was a part of the Cairo treaty signed by US, UK, Russia and China when China was ROC. To date ROC (Taiwan) still occupied the largest island in South China Sea, PRC takes the position of being the successor of ROC to claim the South China Sea 9 line territory. The whole deal is US doesn’t want to honor Cairo treaty with PRC. I served in ROC navy, went to South China Sea before and PRC is my enemy. Go search and read Cairo treaty which also includes returning Taiwan and associated islands to China, sankaku island is 140 miles off Taiwan and was a county of Taiwan but US gave to Japan instead and triggered territory claim from both PRC and ROC. Bottom line, Australia is a victim to US exercising world domination. China has stopped importing from Australia, US won, Australia lost and Chinese buys more coal from Mongolia, wines from EU and agriculture from Brazil.
Australia compromise security
32:30 hahahah go usa!! From Australia
I think LBJ said that to us about the Vietnam war as well! "It'll take us 10 minutes to neutralise them if anything goers wrong!" Just come with us & we'll do it together in 5 minutes! hahaha
We could give you one of our frigates. I think the other one is under maintenance!
Wasn't the choice an unnecessary complication?
Yes funding is not provided to individual but the parties that would be in Government creating a favorable environment for the donor(China)
@3:42 " to resist China's pressure ? What pressure.
Hey any ausie allies reading this,
How do you, or your citizens in Australia feel now After covid 19?
Are you with US or Against US ?
Any Australians that don't support the U.S either don't understand history or they are unaware of how vulnerable we actually are. It's nice to see we will soon be able to bring more than just our military experience as we continue our valued relationship with the U.S, and now finally increase our military capabilities.
100% with the US. Just do the right thing...... :)
who gives the name South China SEA?
I think is a old china king named it when you was living a cave
What about the Indian Ocean? Does India claim that ocean?
China is a word with many different meanings. PRC is a regime that doesn't have a valid claim on all of the region of China let alone the entirety of the water bodies that partially adjoin it .
If you wanted to talk deeper history , there's a more convincing claim to historical Chinese region / empire culture etc by the Taiwanese sovereignty , (who are the continuation of the leadership that escaped the culture - wrecking communist regime ) than there is by the CCP regime. Of course people have a right to define cultural heritage locally , and there are deep why CCP subjects ( which can't be blamed for the appalling totalitarian regime they are subject to ) might have more connection to the revival of lost traditional culture ( the kind the CCP tried to destroy ) than to the empty and dehumanising parade brutal suffering interrupted by mindless pageantry that is the CCP cultural heritage.
The CCP should be mistaken for having welcomed real freedom in any meaningful lasting way. They are just in another "100 flowers " phase.
The sale of the port of Darwin lease is nothing but a strategic folly.
🤔What was the end result to the game of "CHICKEN!!!!" @ 35.30..?🤭
Well the ones who are concerned about Australias national security they are right as think of this when your not secure then what's the point of economy... Ha ha ha... Simple answer isn't it Australia!! No brainer aye!!
*you're
@@Blackheathenly 🤣 Engrrrish first!
Joy Ban-Eg is a true leader...a very brave one.
It's true matey!
First tie a communist dictatorship has become a threat to owe way of life, these people need to be charged for treason for making deals that affect the Australian people and owe way of life.
Australians committed war crimes and genocide against the native Aborigines. Time for them to be charged for their crimes.
@@@richardkong4387 All Australians? Please.
our minerals iron haw and coal and many other minerals it is in our interest to keep them friendly.
We should rename the "South China Sea" to the "South Asia Sea"
exactly
make trade, not war.
Commentator quote: "It'll be decades before the Chinese can match the US military power." 4 years later...WOW! You were so wrong!
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In 1948, Shoghi Effendi (The Guardian of the Baha'i Faith) stigmatizes modern society as being: "politically convulsed, economically disrupted, socially subverted, morally decadent and spiritually moribund..."
I love the China response to Hague verdict how he calls it an illegal complaint. Oh yeah those well known things "illegal complaints" Maybe in China this is normal but not where I'm from aha
Stealth War by Spalding, Claws of the Panda by Manthorpe and Silent Invasion by Hamilton just fill the bill on the China kool-aid.
Stealth War by Spalding - Excellent!
when will man learn,,nobody wins and learn to live together
Now the Chinese surveillance credit system is in Darwin, lol, even with the US soldiers here. Read the articles like Epoch times Australia, 👍
Australia is now learning how very deeply they've erred. It's not a reflection on the Australian people. Americans are also learning how badly we underestimated the CCP and how deep those roots of corruption can sink into our free systems.
Please keep your Western corruption and racism to yourself.
@@richardkong4387 And please keep your CCP corruption and gansterism to yourself. sir. Do we have an accord?
@@allenhamilton6688 Keep your Western White Supremacist agenda and corruption to yourself and stop causing more wars and conflicts all over the Globe. You fellas are guilty of causing deaths and destruction from Latin America to the Middle East.
@@richardkong4387 Careful about those racial supremacy accusations. Everyone knows about the Uyghur concentration camps in Xinjiang province. Tartars aren't they? Approximately 1 million of them locked up there I understand. Our satellites have even noted the crematoriums running day and night there, probably because of the organ harvesting business the CCP runs. And there's the little matter of 70 million dead during your cultural revolution. When one lives in a glass house, it's wise to refrain from throwing stones.
哦，那你们的自由民主好脆弱啊
Time for the Australian Air Force and Navy to really start increasing their assets. Perhaps some long range missile batteries as well.
We've bought 9 new hunter class frigates, 12 submarines, we have more f-35s on their way and they're currently looking to purchase greater anti-air capabilities. I still think all of this is insufficient
Why? So the Australia can launch a suicidal invasion of China? People who imagine China attacking the west do not understand Chinese values, and instead of learning more they superimpose incompatible western imperialist values.
O'Connor looks/sounds like a ditz. Port CEO, eh?
WALK THE TALK WORLD LEADERS!!! To stop godless CCP gangster from bullying grabbing lands and territorial waters by disrespecting Intetnational Laws ... India, Australia, the ASEAN region, Taiwan, Japan and Guam (Pacific Ocean, Philippine Sea and the Indian Oceans) should jointly form to adopt Chinas " NINE DASH LINE" prohibiting air and sea navigation for China particularly the Malacca Strait and other sea straits along the territories of the Asean Region, India, Japan , Philippines Guam and Australia with the help of USA...CCP'S National Security Law should be adopted also by all nations as a "special law" to be imposed and sanctioned to all members of the CCP AND THEIR MINIONS TO BE FAIR AND SQUARE. GIVE CHINA THEIR OWN DOSE OF MEDICINE!
I don't know if you can see what I can here, but you all need to, for everybody's sake.
Did you see the Chinese map of Australia on Ch 7? You know that little island to the South East it's now called New Honking. (Only half joking)
13:47 that dude picking his wedgie though
Once the Chinese gets what they need and want then they will not care about breaking agreements or treaties and will just use Military and Economic Coercion.
do you think usa and uk and eu countrys going to let china get away with this no chance
But China is looking at a pathway to the South Pole as well, with it's fish and oil.
It looks like something I saw at school when I was about maybe 8 years old. 1 bullie, 10 twelve year olds bigger and stronger watching on, trying to convince the bullie that he should stop hasling 8 year old, but none of them would lift a finger to stop. Finally one day boy's father got his chance. ALL these boy's were on his bus, and unlike any other time, they were all getting of the bus at the same stop. The 8 year old boy's father kept the door shut and everybody to take a seat please. I won't keep you for long time,but there is something that needs to be sorted. The bus driver told his son to get off the bus. The boy didn't understand because this stop was not his stop. But he knew better than to question his father, so he got off the bus. Then the boy's father told the bullie to get off the bus because my son has got my permission to give you the hiding of your life. Wild horses wouldn't been able to get him off that bus. ALL the other children, about 10 of them were silent for what seemed like half an hour,but it was only 5 minutes. Then the bus driver called his back onto the bus and the driver let the children go. That bullie changed from that day and the two boys became good friends. Think about it those children were not about money, They weren't about territories, they weren't about supremacy, or maybe the bullie was,but I don't think so.
Good story.
I LOVE THE AUSSIES VERY MUCH !!!!!!!!!!
My error I apologize
LOL 15 mins work it's done over. Do it!
Very smart decision !
Next to US Marine base
Civil port run by Chines company!
Sorry to see in this video that Australia comes over as rather weak! The other claimants are just being pushed over..not enough military might to resist..pity
China is a skink not a dragon
They have 5000 years behind them, what have you?
@@richardkong4387 Our people have been here in Australia for 75,000 years. What have you?
Australia is becoming the meat in the sandwich , like poland stuck between germany and Russia. The big difference is we have capacity for expansion so when we starting the putting on weight party?
Can you really say the US is trying to militarize the South China Sea when they’re not building any military infrastructure there? to claim that their sending a naval group through international waters is “militarizing” anything would extend to any country with a navy.
When Us understands the world dont revolve around them .. Just accept the asia(Golden countries) are rising
But why now it saying about Chinawill collapse soom?
The Julie Bishop (foreign minister) babe doesn't have kids, which goes most of the way to explaining why she doesn't worry about China - as it won't affect her.
Sit down and do a deal, with China, are you joking ? Hong Kong was a deal and look what happened to that contract !!
Always be prepared train bleed now less in war!! Americans were born in war if any of you don't agree "Thank you 4th of July"! So we know how to rage war because we like war were war like people!!
the rp (butete) admin is no different from the CCP. the people need the help from above.
Carlos F Doria what are you blabbering about? Have you researched the geopolitics that that the current government of the Philippines is trying to advance and stands on? It’s friend to everyone and enemy to no one. Can you elaborate further what you mean about the current Philippine government as no different from CCP? Have you gone out of your cave and smell the coffee outside? If you are in the Philippines, look around and see the big changes for the good of the people happening around you!
Aussies are assuming. I say that from first hand experience. They are intelligent and hard working. Aussies are assume...
When will you learn ? China is trying to colonize that area and if you think they will simply hand it back after 99 years you'd better think again. You only need to look a the Hong Kong mess and see how that's turning out to understand. UK handed Hong Kong back but rest assured, China won't give up their assets !
Training future killers
I'm curious if Kiribati is gonna let China build some apartment complexes there. Lol go for it but you won't want anybody to live in them!
There’s not call information low it up to your power that’s why a lot of bulshit is going on in international topics
Did he say live cattle....whakama.
YA EATEN THIER WORDS NOW!!!!!!!!!!