+JayzTwoCents Jay Please PM me I have an idea for you. I have been trying to get your Attention for a while but i think this idea of mine will interest you greatly. I have concept art at your request for this idea. I have also been trying to get LTT attention with no success please I need your help.
Jayz I have to say that your intro on this Video is one of the best of all time! Note: I am glad I never had to go and purchase those things for my tears lol...Thanks again!
The seahawk has 4 versions though so it'll be hard to review. 1. Seahawk (reference pcb) 2. Seahwak X (gaming x pcb) 3. Seahawk EK (EKWB reference pcb) 4. Seahawk EK X (EKWB gaming X pcb)
I enjoy your witt. Value your opinion. Would like to see more stuff on higher mid level cards if you can. I know I'm not spending $1000 on a card anytime soon. Also, love the quality of your videos. Getting a lot better, when you froze the video I expected Waylon Jennings to start talking
Cool review by the way. Forgot to mention that. I'm still trying to save up for a gtx 1080 as i'm tring to run a 5760x1080 off a gtx 970 atm and it isn't going well.
Well, I'm a fan. 3 years later and these videos are very helpful in evaluating what cards on the secondary market are worth considering. Currently looking at this card on Craigslist for $300.
1860MHz boost clock? On a classified?! I think I may have won the silicone lottery with my EVGA GTX1080 SC which is at 1987MHz boost/1708Hz base clocks.
what's up with the gtx1080 1987mhz boost? ive noticed if any 1080 runs cool enough it will boost to 1987 my factork EK blocked msi 1080 will always boost to 1,987 and why do 1080s suck so bad at overclocking? mine wont go past 2,150 even with 70% on the power limit and running 35C
i just built my 1st PC $1100 AUD msi sli mobo A970 & 8370cpu wraith cooler+1070 msi gtx OC 2045+4440 + 240g ssd 500ghdd+4 case fans on a fan control unit running cool 70ish under load. your vid's are cool m8 keep them coming nice work .
Moe Sokolji I'm thinking about making the same upgrade! I've had my 780ti classified for a few years and I'm torn between the 1080 classified and the new Titan X, I'm going to liquid cool whichever one I get since I already have a custom loop, I'm just not sure which one to get.
I had the same question but i went for FTW as it's looks are superb. It all comes down to brand, design, and cooling. Both pretty much has good potential overclocks but neither can surpass 2100ish stable, it's Pascal limitation.
I've had a little bit of a different experience with this card. Without configuring anything, I get simply the advertised boost clock, no more that that. I have managed to get the clock speed up to 1911 by setting the power limit to 130 and the temp limit to 89C, but that definitely makes the fan very noticeable in terms of noise.
so stupid....yes, the 14 phases ARE for more power, not to make it "clean"...its for LN2 where it can eat 500-600 Watt or more...makes no sense to buy that card and use it with the standard-air cooler...would be a waste. YOu had the chance to talk about much more interesting things, for example the voltage lock, the Classy infact never had a voltage lock in praxis, because you can hack it with the EVGA-Classified Controller, which gives you room for up to 1,6V on core and 1,8V on VRAM. Yeah, would be great to know if that still works, like it always did. But no, lets just repeat the uninteresting empty phrases. All infos you get here are basically on the product box.
yes i was also disappointed...was waiting for months for a Classified review, probably gonna buy it, but this guy gave no real info. None of that is really interesting as a classified user....at least we know its got "clean power delivery" :)
i see where youre going, but what do you expect? This is a mainstream hardware-channel and usually youre not gonna find real specialist/overclocker topics here. Its basically advertisement with a little bit of basic info. BTW Voltage-Overclock seams to be dead...you will probably be able to still use the Classy-Controller, but it wont bring results, it does not scale with voltage, 1,1, 1,2V, i heard its like Maxwell, no extra clocks, only extra heat. It needs LN2 to scale with voltage i think.
Well, yeah the air cooler thing is kindda BS, even more expensive than hybrid is even more bs. But i see the reason y they had voltage lock... Cauz even low temp, but high voltage can kill gpu o cpu.as for The 14 phases can make a difference of oc 80mhz more core clock than reference...so thats not nothing
Does adjusting fan curves affect the life of the fan significantly? It's difficult to find solid information on this. Looking forward to your fan curve video on Friday!
Only if you're constantly running them at 100%, and even then, you'll more than likely need to replace the system before the fan dies out from tweaking the curve.
Noice vid cheers jay... I've always been one to buy the reference or bottom end budget versions of cards like 980ti, Will deffo be keeping an eye of manufacturer cards when the 1080ti pop!
Just bought one and I love it. 2025 Boost before tweaking. Runs The Witcher 3 in UHD/Medium/60fps or 1440p Ultra/maxed/Gameworks. That's the only game I care about currently. Much awesome.
Good deal man doing the dual titan xp thing as well been staring at these cards waiting for EK to release there backplates. Cant wait to see your benchmarks man.
great video. but this is review I've been waiting for since the launch of the 1080 :3 and probably the most anticipated review for EVGA fans. Now I'll wait miserably for the kingpin edition review :(
I am not sick of the GTX1080 reviews, would like to see more in the future for upgraded models as they come out to see how they compare to the previous big dogs
I don't mind the gpu reviews. I just wish you had a little more AMD products to review. I haven't seen much reviews on the board partner cards of the RX 480. It would be cool to see.
What I find funny with these Pascal card is the boost clocks. I have a non factory overclocked Strix yet it will boost to 1949Mhz out of the box, it will eventually settle at 1911Mhz with a temp of 65c. Remember this is the not the OC version of the Strix, some overclocked cards don't boast clock speeds like that and require some overclocking to get it. I think the general consensuses with these cards is just buy the one you like the look of and suits your needs because they are all going to get nearly the same clock speeds in the end anyway.
I have to agree with some people - while the classified can be sold to anyone, all of those extra features are meant for people who are going to mod the card. For people who buy the card and don't mod, it's just epeen bragging rights at that point. For those who don't mod the classified and have the room, the hybrid is a better solution. you scared of leaks from it? then get the regular Ftw edition and still skip the classified. I'll agree that the term 'thermal throttling' should only be used to reference the safegaurd of not burning up the chip. So for all other situations where the card won't boost as high as normally because of temps, 'dynamic leveling' might be the technically right but because so many people want to use 'thermal' to describe what goes on, them maybe something like 'thermal balancing' would work better.
Hey Jay, can you do a watercooled build in the Thermaltake P5 case? I know that you'd probably have to do a bunch of sponsor work to get all of the stuff that you'd need but I think you could do an extremely sexy build in the P5. But anyways, great video as always keep it up man!
Hi Jay. I have learned a lot from watching videos on your channel and anticipate new content releases. This video was not one I anticipated because of the over-saturation of coverage on these high-end graphics parts. Don't get me wrong - I am a hardware high-performance junkie like a lot of people, but not all PC builds are based on the latest, greatest and most-expensive. I would appreciate more videos from you on hardware that is more mainstream in price - like the AMD RX 470 or the Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB, and analysis on how to get the best performance from this price-range. I understand that you make videos on topics relevant to your interests but I think that a lot of viewers like myself would benefit greatly from your expertise with all ranges of hardware. This comment is not meant as a criticism of your channel content, but a wish for coverage of a broader spectrum of parts. I know you are mostly dependent on hardware companies sending you their products for review - I am appealing to a lack of coverage on the less "sexier" products that are relevant to many mainstream users or casual gamers that are building PC's meant for 1080P. Sorry for the long-winded feedback. Cheers
I have a feeling the extra fps has to do with the extra power phases. Like the cleaner power going to the gpu is translating to a more efficient gpu render at the same clock. Best explanation I can think of.
[~8:05] Jay! I think you misspoke! Somewhere on an EVGA PDF page of full specs for these, I read that the fans on both the Classified and the FTW model are the *same 100mm size*. Even though the PCB is listed as almost an inch wider on the Classified, and the fans LOOK like they're just as close to the width of the PCB as they are on the FTW... But according to that data page, the SC and base model ACX coolers are the 90mm fans; while the FTW and Classified are both 100mm. (MSI's wide-bodied air-cooled cards are all 95mm fans, for comparison.) Not to be too nit-picky or critical... that may seem like a minor point, irrelevant in terms of performance numbers. But to me, the larger fan size is one of the features that makes the FTW the winner for me out of this product stack. (The even MORE power phases on the Classified, seem pointless for my purposes. But just the dual bios + larger cooler with the bigger fans, make the FTW worth the small extra cost over the SC model, in my mind.)
dynamic frequency control- will ramp up your card to make use of low temperatures thermal throttling- will ramp down your card to reduce output to reduce temperatures.
3min in and you said the voltage is locked at 1.092v. that's all I needed to know, thanks jay! without even watching the rest of this I can tell you right now no card can go over 2.2ghz with that locked voltage and 2150 is on the high side. Spending $$$ when you can get a Asus Turbo, slap a waterblock on it and get the clocks and performance is a no brainer.
I like hardware reveiws they help me deside what I want to get, please do more of these along with randoms builds, and I like the sponsored videos yeah you get paid so you say all the possitives but gotts make money
Higher voltage was needed to get the transistors to turn on fast enough. With the ThinFet you have a hard time getting your card to a region where the voltage needs to be higher - not unless you cool it down significantly. for those that want to know more: Mosfets are the parts switching the current to do the calculations. They have a certain capacity and all the wire have a resistance, and they can only turn on oh so fast. To turn the Mosfet on, you need to reach a specific threshold voltage on the 'gate'. From basic physic we know that rising the voltage on a capacity needs a certain amount of energy to flow into it. To make that faster, you need a higher current. And to drive that current you need a certain voltage. Now with the current manufacturing process we are at a point, where under normal conditions the voltage and current are already high enough to turn on the Mosfet as fast as physically possible. that means even with higher Voltages applied, you can not make the transistor turn on any faster. If however you cool it down, you can reduce this minimum switch-time, and in that case higher voltage might help again.
that was already the case with maxwell....just did not scale with more than 1,25V, The 1080 classy only will be needed for LN2....its so much oversized for just regular gaming purpose. But the review here really missed the ponit somehow.
Jay, great video! Could you make a video showing how to use those voltage meters and why it matters? I mean, should we even care? I have never seen a video about it, not even Linus. Thanks! I'm a big fan, cheers!
in my eyes thermal throttling is when the clock speeds are automatically dropped below their standard speeds to prevent overheating, dynamic clock, in dynamic clock is similiar, in that it changes the voltage and clocks to maintain a power envelope, like on my core series processors my 4720qm will run at 2.7Ghz under full load without me doing anything, but its maximum clock is 3.5Ghz, if i use throttle stop i can push it to 3.1 and keep it there with the temperature running about 10 degrees below TDP, but if i start to tax my GPU it will quickly throttle down to 2.4Ghz because they share the same heatpipe and heatsink, if it were to stay at 3.1Ghz it would easily cross over the TDP and quickly pass TJMax
that tower you showed at 1:30 looks exactly like mine. hope you show how these cards fit. i'm scared some may not fit. im looking for a new card now, my pc one failed.
I always enjoy your vids man! And i have a question: will there be new 1511 mobos for the 7700k and kabylake in generell and: should i buy a kabylake-x on the 2066 socket with a 1080??? Pls answer
so firstly lets see one running on water. also how do you approach fan curve once...well once there arent any fans on it, are you stuck on a constant overclock? interested to know cause i've been waiting on these things to hit shelves over here in uk for my first watercooled build
I'm looking to buy a 1080 but with so many coming out and so many reviews I'm getting confused which one should i actually buy. I was curious if you would be putting out a video on what card is best to buy for different applications. I myself am a game streamer. Thanks, love your content.
I lolled when you decided on the Titan Xs for your build XD and that 3rd card for PhysX isn't a bad idea.. I might do that with 1080s to piss off MY friends! :D
Should I go for this one or the water cooled one? I'm looking to reach maximum performance. If these two aren't gonna cut it then recommend other cards. Will prob overclock at some point
Second you finish your two way Titan build, they'll announce the 1080ti. Either way, a phys x card is a must, and, a Titan should be almost sufficient for that task at least. Looking forward to the new skunkworks Jay. Keep em coming.
+Ryan Grobe Sorry. I thought the silky humor/sarcasm of my comment would have pulled through for everyone there. Guess not. I wasn't being serious Ryan.
My GTX 1080 MSI Armor OC is over clocked to a rock solid 2025Mhz with hours game play and with custom fan curve I keep it at 69-73c at 100% GPU load and it is dead silent. Love it. The fans on that card are very low rpm so you cant really hear it. The fans don't even run at default up to 60c and doing any desktop work and watching videos the card doesn't even hit 45c.
Hey jay, I'm building a PC. Just want to know what graphic card you would recommend for price, dependability, and efficiency. Thanks if you respond to this. (I'm new to PC stuff).
Thanks for the Info. And Awesome video's . I would like to see this compared to a GTX 980 TI . The prices of the 980TI have come down substantially. Now I cant make up my mind on which 1080 to buy or should I wait for 1080 TI . Where is the 1080 TI ? Got any info Hmmmmmm.....
YES! TWO TITAN X (P)s! You know you want it more than we do, Jay... We just want to live vicariously through you, but you get all that computing power deliciousness and the bragging rights to other nerds that you are in the top 100 scores of 3DMark TimeSpy and FireStrike. I hope Little Jay enjoys her new home in China working on the electronics assembly line so you can afford your new system... BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT.
Wish I could have an acoustic comparison between all the cards. I'm just looking for the most power I can get with no noise. Originally was gonna jump on MSI but then I heard the Gigabyte xtreme was quiet and now this EVGA is silent as well. Tough choice
I don't know if this is a obvious answer question but why does it dynamically adjust down when power phases, cooling etc. on this card would all seem to keep the card as stable as possible?
Hey jay, quick question, i just bought this card and was wondering how are the vrm temps. Im worried that I bought a faulty gpu but i doubt evga would keep selling defective gpus
I have a 530W power supply from Thermaltake, do you think it'l support a single 1080 classified? Will I be able to push it to the magical 2.1Ghz with that psu?
So far 58 boxes of tampons have been sold! Make sure to use the promo code and I will throw in the extra salt absorbent version at no additional cost!
+thecouchtripper I'm sending you a double pack. Can tell that 50 isn't enough for you. My treat
+JayzTwoCents Jay Please PM me I have an idea for you. I have been trying to get your Attention for a while but i think this idea of mine will interest you greatly. I have concept art at your request for this idea. I have also been trying to get LTT attention with no success please I need your help.
+JayzTwoCents savage
Please ...oh pretty please put a third titan in .... i feed of the salty tears of my poor brethren
GTX 650 for lief
sorry I need more graphs and benchmarks to fully believe in this product, does it work with water cooling or does it just jam up the pump?
Jayz I have to say that your intro on this Video is one of the best of all time! Note: I am glad I never had to go and purchase those things for my tears lol...Thanks again!
too much 1080...I mean guys...we're at 4k already cmon!
(I know I should kill myself with that corny ass joke)
cool joke tho
many wont understand
+kybosh MR pretty sure 99% of viewers on this video will understand that joke lol
That gave me a good chuckle.
but 8k monitors m9
wow. thats all i can say
I am glad you went with dual Titan X's J. I am excited to see your rig in the new update!
Jay can you do a EVGA gtx 1080 hybrid
vs MSI 1080 seahawk review!!!
Gamers Nexus has one of those in the works.
i think we have enough 1080 videos...
The seahawk has 4 versions though so it'll be hard to review.
1. Seahawk (reference pcb)
2. Seahwak X (gaming x pcb)
3. Seahawk EK (EKWB reference pcb)
4. Seahawk EK X (EKWB gaming X pcb)
vs Gigabyte Waterforce
that might be. I just got my 1080 sea hawk, so far I´ve been able to push it 2126mhz core/11000 memory
Wow! I'm excited for that fan curve video. Need to learn more about getting more out of my 1070
Does this model also have thermal issues? I like it but i don't want to buy it and then have temperature problems..
I enjoy your witt. Value your opinion. Would like to see more stuff on higher mid level cards if you can. I know I'm not spending $1000 on a card anytime soon.
Also, love the quality of your videos. Getting a lot better, when you froze the video I expected Waylon Jennings to start talking
Anybody else's OCD going crazy at that bent fin at 3:28?
Jay. Straighten your fins out! Stop being so sloppy
I noticed it when editing and already fixed it. Your OCD can rest
Good. I'll sleep so much better now.
Cool review by the way. Forgot to mention that. I'm still trying to save up for a gtx 1080 as i'm tring to run a 5760x1080 off a gtx 970 atm and it isn't going well.
Thank god, it's metal.
Hey Jay i'm not tired of the GPU's videos! keep'em coming!
That's why i subscribed!
getting bored of these high end cards im never going ever buy. like watching top gear.
Well, I'm a fan. 3 years later and these videos are very helpful in evaluating what cards on the secondary market are worth considering. Currently looking at this card on Craigslist for $300.
@@cardsfanbj amen
Thank you for your hard work Jay, we do appreciate it more than you know.
1860MHz boost clock? On a classified?! I think I may have won the silicone lottery with my EVGA GTX1080 SC which is at 1987MHz boost/1708Hz base clocks.
+Kyle Arrington you can push your card farther than 1987
my zotac hits 2076 from the box;)
what's up with the gtx1080 1987mhz boost?
ive noticed if any 1080 runs cool enough it will boost to 1987
my factork EK blocked msi 1080 will always boost to 1,987
and why do 1080s suck so bad at overclocking?
mine wont go past 2,150 even with 70% on the power limit and running 35C
my asus gtx 1060 hits 2126
JustusLM seems kinda weird that all 1080 vendors fall between 1,987-2,012mhz stock with gpu boost 3.0
i just built my 1st PC $1100 AUD msi sli mobo A970 & 8370cpu wraith cooler+1070 msi gtx OC 2045+4440 +
240g ssd 500ghdd+4 case fans on a fan control unit running cool 70ish under load. your vid's are cool m8 keep them coming nice work .
So much more tdp for this tiny ass improvement in performance... Not worth it.
+deXter2 just because the TDP is available doesn't mean it's being used. As I said it was using about 78-80% of that 245w. Do the math
+JayzTwoCents hi!!!!
+JayzTwoCents should i get gtx 1070 or 1080
awesome review cant wait to get mine. Upgrading from 780ti Classified
Keep up the great reviews Jay :)
Moe Sokolji I'm thinking about making the same upgrade! I've had my 780ti classified for a few years and I'm torn between the 1080 classified and the new Titan X, I'm going to liquid cool whichever one I get since I already have a custom loop, I'm just not sure which one to get.
Thought you could not review it because it's Classified
Sorry for bad joke
Well, i actually liked it. Nice one lol.
i just picked up a 1080 SC in 2024. It is still a beast of a card. I paid 60 bucks for it.
1080 GAMING X or 1080 FTW ?
I had the same question but i went for FTW as it's looks are superb. It all comes down to brand, design, and cooling. Both pretty much has good potential overclocks but neither can surpass 2100ish stable, it's Pascal limitation.
I honestly don't care about OC considering I'll use this 1080 for CS GO and some Just Cause 3 games... I took the FTW one, receiving it in 4 hours ^^
Got mine 2 days ago, it's a beast indeed. Replaying Skyrim at 144 frames on Full HD res all the time, no drops xD
Got mine this morning but I'm searching for the fucking software to change LED color !
I've had a little bit of a different experience with this card. Without configuring anything, I get simply the advertised boost clock, no more that that. I have managed to get the clock speed up to 1911 by setting the power limit to 130 and the temp limit to 89C, but that definitely makes the fan very noticeable in terms of noise.
still really dislike evga 10 series looks
yeah I miss the all black
they made a black edition GTX 1070 www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5173-KR
they look terrible. even the 9 series weren't all that.
i like it... i guess its one of those love it or hate it things
When you said a black edition, I was expecting a larger model lol
Hey Jay, thank you for all of the great info. It's much appreciated.
...so why not just get the Hybrid for $20 less?
no reason to get the classified this time really
Maybe there's no room for the rad? Dunno beyond that.
perhaps aesthetics? is the classified bigger? I like standard height cards myself...but maybe some people like to compensate
maybe someone wants to put a waterblock on it, i mean if it was me id rather get the classified and put a block on it, rather than reference
+TheScorpio32 the classified needs a costum water block, so it is kinda difficult
Yet another good video Jay. I really liked the Tampax insert, made me laugh so hard, awesome!
so stupid....yes, the 14 phases ARE for more power, not to make it "clean"...its for LN2 where it can eat 500-600 Watt or more...makes no sense to buy that card and use it with the standard-air cooler...would be a waste. YOu had the chance to talk about much more interesting things, for example the voltage lock, the Classy infact never had a voltage lock in praxis, because you can hack it with the EVGA-Classified Controller, which gives you room for up to 1,6V on core and 1,8V on VRAM. Yeah, would be great to know if that still works, like it always did. But no, lets just repeat the uninteresting empty phrases. All infos you get here are basically on the product box.
yes i was also disappointed...was waiting for months for a Classified review, probably gonna buy it, but this guy gave no real info. None of that is really interesting as a classified user....at least we know its got "clean power delivery" :)
i see where youre going, but what do you expect? This is a mainstream hardware-channel and usually youre not gonna find real specialist/overclocker topics here. Its basically advertisement with a little bit of basic info. BTW Voltage-Overclock seams to be dead...you will probably be able to still use the Classy-Controller, but it wont bring results, it does not scale with voltage, 1,1, 1,2V, i heard its like Maxwell, no extra clocks, only extra heat. It needs LN2 to scale with voltage i think.
Well, yeah the air cooler thing is kindda BS, even more expensive than hybrid is even more bs. But i see the reason y they had voltage lock... Cauz even low temp, but high voltage can kill gpu o cpu.as for The 14 phases can make a difference of oc 80mhz more core clock than reference...so thats not nothing
no offense bro, but i feel like you dont know shit^^
it also has the evbot port. does jay know about evbot? I should loan him mine
Damn Jay, savage on the intro.
Great video as usual, keep it up!
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Been waiting for this!
Does adjusting fan curves affect the life of the fan significantly? It's difficult to find solid information on this. Looking forward to your fan curve video on Friday!
I've been wondering this for quite a while! for me it's if running at close to 100% for a long time is detrimental
Only if you're constantly running them at 100%, and even then, you'll more than likely need to replace the system before the fan dies out from tweaking the curve.
This is literally the only 1080 review I've been waiting for. Thanks Jay.
You're very welcome
KEEP IT GOING JAY THAT WAS THE BEST INTRO EVER LOL
omg the tampon thing was the best! Keep it Up! Oh and a friend pronounced your name like the rapper and i chewed him out lol
I have been watching your videos for years, This one actually made me laugh. You win the internet.
Noice vid cheers jay... I've always been one to buy the reference or bottom end budget versions of cards like 980ti, Will deffo be keeping an eye of manufacturer cards when the 1080ti pop!
Just bought one and I love it. 2025 Boost before tweaking. Runs The Witcher 3 in UHD/Medium/60fps or 1440p Ultra/maxed/Gameworks. That's the only game I care about currently. Much awesome.
I am your new subscribers! Love your vids so much!
could the classified get be getting better results because of the more stable power running to it ?
Good deal man doing the dual titan xp thing as well been staring at these cards waiting for EK to release there backplates. Cant wait to see your benchmarks man.
"I'm not going to call it Founder's"... Say goodbye to that second Titan X, Jay :/
Anything coming out on Thursday? I hope so...
Great video Jay. Thanks for the review.
That intro was fantastic!! :))))))
great video. but this is review I've been waiting for since the launch of the 1080 :3 and probably the most anticipated review for EVGA fans.
Now I'll wait miserably for the kingpin edition review :(
I am not sick of the GTX1080 reviews, would like to see more in the future for upgraded models as they come out to see how they compare to the previous big dogs
I bought this today. Can't wait to use it.
As a PC gamer I place a lot of importance on the main game playing component of my PC(the video card). So the more reviews the better for me.
That benchmark music was chill
I don't mind the gpu reviews. I just wish you had a little more AMD products to review. I haven't seen much reviews on the board partner cards of the RX 480. It would be cool to see.
Standing ovation @ Tampon joke. LOVE IT! Totally agree btw @ red grills on plate but bottom is rgb.
What I find funny with these Pascal card is the boost clocks.
I have a non factory overclocked Strix yet it will boost to 1949Mhz out of the box, it will eventually settle at 1911Mhz with a temp of 65c.
Remember this is the not the OC version of the Strix, some overclocked cards don't boast clock speeds like that and require some overclocking to get it.
I think the general consensuses with these cards is just buy the one you like the look of and suits your needs because they are all going to get nearly the same clock speeds in the end anyway.
Congrats on caving Jay, Titan XP SLI ftw ! Now you don't have to change anything until Titan Volta...
I have to agree with some people - while the classified can be sold to anyone, all of those extra features are meant for people who are going to mod the card. For people who buy the card and don't mod, it's just epeen bragging rights at that point.
For those who don't mod the classified and have the room, the hybrid is a better solution.
you scared of leaks from it? then get the regular Ftw edition and still skip the classified.
I'll agree that the term 'thermal throttling' should only be used to reference the safegaurd of not burning up the chip.
So for all other situations where the card won't boost as high as normally because of temps, 'dynamic leveling' might be the technically right but because so many people want to use 'thermal' to describe what goes on, them maybe something like 'thermal balancing' would work better.
Hey Jay, can you do a watercooled build in the Thermaltake P5 case? I know that you'd probably have to do a bunch of sponsor work to get all of the stuff that you'd need but I think you could do an extremely sexy build in the P5. But anyways, great video as always keep it up man!
Hi Jay. I have learned a lot from watching videos on your channel and anticipate new content releases. This video was not one I anticipated because of the over-saturation of coverage on these high-end graphics parts. Don't get me wrong - I am a hardware high-performance junkie like a lot of people, but not all PC builds are based on the latest, greatest and most-expensive. I would appreciate more videos from you on hardware that is more mainstream in price - like the AMD RX 470 or the Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB, and analysis on how to get the best performance from this price-range. I understand that you make videos on topics relevant to your interests but I think that a lot of viewers like myself would benefit greatly from your expertise with all ranges of hardware. This comment is not meant as a criticism of your channel content, but a wish for coverage of a broader spectrum of parts. I know you are mostly dependent on hardware companies sending you their products for review - I am appealing to a lack of coverage on the less "sexier" products that are relevant to many mainstream users or casual gamers that are building PC's meant for 1080P. Sorry for the long-winded feedback. Cheers
I have a feeling the extra fps has to do with the extra power phases. Like the cleaner power going to the gpu is translating to a more efficient gpu render at the same clock. Best explanation I can think of.
Jay, are those 24" monitors flanking your 34" ultrawide? What displays are they? Good video, not sick of the 1080 videos :)
[~8:05] Jay! I think you misspoke! Somewhere on an EVGA PDF page of full specs for these, I read that the fans on both the Classified and the FTW model are the *same 100mm size*. Even though the PCB is listed as almost an inch wider on the Classified, and the fans LOOK like they're just as close to the width of the PCB as they are on the FTW... But according to that data page, the SC and base model ACX coolers are the 90mm fans; while the FTW and Classified are both 100mm. (MSI's wide-bodied air-cooled cards are all 95mm fans, for comparison.)
Not to be too nit-picky or critical... that may seem like a minor point, irrelevant in terms of performance numbers. But to me, the larger fan size is one of the features that makes the FTW the winner for me out of this product stack. (The even MORE power phases on the Classified, seem pointless for my purposes. But just the dual bios + larger cooler with the bigger fans, make the FTW worth the small extra cost over the SC model, in my mind.)
dynamic frequency control- will ramp up your card to make use of low temperatures
thermal throttling- will ramp down your card to reduce output to reduce temperatures.
i like the ad spot with fractal josh.
my favorite.
Nice video. What's the awesome case in the background. Would love to buy that! I am in the UK not sure if I can get it?
Jayz what ever you Review or Comparison i like it keep it Real
3min in and you said the voltage is locked at 1.092v. that's all I needed to know, thanks jay! without even watching the rest of this I can tell you right now no card can go over 2.2ghz with that locked voltage and 2150 is on the high side. Spending $$$ when you can get a Asus Turbo, slap a waterblock on it and get the clocks and performance is a no brainer.
"Reference design, I'm not calling it founders" Oh damn, Jay's fighting back.
I like hardware reveiws they help me deside what I want to get, please do more of these along with randoms builds, and I like the sponsored videos yeah you get paid so you say all the possitives but gotts make money
Higher voltage was needed to get the transistors to turn on fast enough.
With the ThinFet you have a hard time getting your card to a region where the voltage needs to be higher - not unless you cool it down significantly.
for those that want to know more:
Mosfets are the parts switching the current to do the calculations. They have a certain capacity and all the wire have a resistance, and they can only turn on oh so fast. To turn the Mosfet on, you need to reach a specific threshold voltage on the 'gate'. From basic physic we know that rising the voltage on a capacity needs a certain amount of energy to flow into it. To make that faster, you need a higher current. And to drive that current you need a certain voltage.
Now with the current manufacturing process we are at a point, where under normal conditions the voltage and current are already high enough to turn on the Mosfet as fast as physically possible.
that means even with higher Voltages applied, you can not make the transistor turn on any faster.
If however you cool it down, you can reduce this minimum switch-time, and in that case higher voltage might help again.
that was already the case with maxwell....just did not scale with more than 1,25V, The 1080 classy only will be needed for LN2....its so much oversized for just regular gaming purpose. But the review here really missed the ponit somehow.
Jay, great video! Could you make a video showing how to use those voltage meters and why it matters? I mean, should we even care? I have never seen a video about it, not even Linus. Thanks! I'm a big fan, cheers!
JayzTwoCents, could the added power phases help it run faster? Since the power is cleaner it could be causing it to run faster.
in my eyes thermal throttling is when the clock speeds are automatically dropped below their standard speeds to prevent overheating, dynamic clock, in dynamic clock is similiar, in that it changes the voltage and clocks to maintain a power envelope, like on my core series processors my 4720qm will run at 2.7Ghz under full load without me doing anything, but its maximum clock is 3.5Ghz, if i use throttle stop i can push it to 3.1 and keep it there with the temperature running about 10 degrees below TDP, but if i start to tax my GPU it will quickly throttle down to 2.4Ghz because they share the same heatpipe and heatsink, if it were to stay at 3.1Ghz it would easily cross over the TDP and quickly pass TJMax
Wondering why you dont compare benchmarks with other top of the line 1080's instead of the reference cards.
Jay did you get the Corsair/MSI 1080 Sea Hawk? I'm interested in seeing how it would stack with your benchmark methods.
that tower you showed at 1:30 looks exactly like mine. hope you show how these cards fit. i'm scared some may not fit. im looking for a new card now, my pc one failed.
I always enjoy your vids man! And i have a question: will there be new 1511 mobos for the 7700k and kabylake in generell and: should i buy a kabylake-x on the 2066 socket with a 1080??? Pls answer
I like editing Jay. Cool guy.
Good to see you finally took that tampon sponsorship. You deserve it.
You got a like just for the "absorbing your tears" line.
so firstly lets see one running on water. also how do you approach fan curve once...well once there arent any fans on it, are you stuck on a constant overclock? interested to know cause i've been waiting on these things to hit shelves over here in uk for my first watercooled build
I'm looking to buy a 1080 but with so many coming out and so many reviews I'm getting confused which one should i actually buy. I was curious if you would be putting out a video on what card is best to buy for different applications. I myself am a game streamer. Thanks, love your content.
Yess another video from jay🙏🙏
So Jay, will you be testing the EVGA GTX 1060 cards when they are out to see how they stack up?
I lolled when you decided on the Titan Xs for your build XD and that 3rd card for PhysX isn't a bad idea.. I might do that with 1080s to piss off MY friends! :D
Should I go for this one or the water cooled one? I'm looking to reach maximum performance. If these two aren't gonna cut it then recommend other cards. Will prob overclock at some point
still want more gtx 1080 reviews from jayz!!!
Liked for the Fractal Josh Ad!
love your reviews, and you're hilarious :D
Hi Jay what about EVBOT. Is the Voltag free with the EVBOT. The 14-3 power phase are more for overclocking with Ln2.
Waiit.....did i miss your upgrade video? Or you haven't uploaded the update video where you go with titan xp?
Also are you sure you said "clock" :v?
Second you finish your two way Titan build, they'll announce the 1080ti. Either way, a phys x card is a must, and, a Titan should be almost sufficient for that task at least. Looking forward to the new skunkworks Jay. Keep em coming.
probably before he finishes it and buys all the stuff to do it haha
PhysX cards are useless and in some high end systems they even give you a net loss in performance. Not to mention the lack of games that support it.
+Ryan Grobe Sorry. I thought the silky humor/sarcasm of my comment would have pulled through for everyone there. Guess not. I wasn't being serious Ryan.
i love the GPU videos! i can't get enough! xD
My GTX 1080 MSI Armor OC is over clocked to a rock solid 2025Mhz with hours game play and with custom fan curve I keep it at 69-73c at 100% GPU load and it is dead silent. Love it. The fans on that card are very low rpm so you cant really hear it. The fans don't even run at default up to 60c and doing any desktop work and watching videos the card doesn't even hit 45c.
Hey jay, I'm building a PC. Just want to know what graphic card you would recommend for price, dependability, and efficiency. Thanks if you respond to this. (I'm new to PC stuff).
Again, another 1080 video where the founders edition as a different OC clock... what he hell Jay??? Please keep consistency.
Thanks for the Info. And Awesome video's . I would like to see this compared to a GTX 980 TI . The prices of the 980TI have come down substantially. Now I cant make up my mind on which 1080 to buy or should I wait for 1080 TI . Where is the 1080 TI ? Got any info Hmmmmmm.....
YES! TWO TITAN X (P)s!
You know you want it more than we do, Jay... We just want to live vicariously through you, but you get all that computing power deliciousness and the bragging rights to other nerds that you are in the top 100 scores of 3DMark TimeSpy and FireStrike.
I hope Little Jay enjoys her new home in China working on the electronics assembly line so you can afford your new system... BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT.
and yes Jay, you need that 3rd one for physx
Wish I could have an acoustic comparison between all the cards. I'm just looking for the most power I can get with no noise. Originally was gonna jump on MSI but then I heard the Gigabyte xtreme was quiet and now this EVGA is silent as well. Tough choice
I don't know if this is a obvious answer question but why does it dynamically adjust down when power phases, cooling etc. on this card would all seem to keep the card as stable as possible?
That intro was soooo fucking savage!
Hey jay, quick question, i just bought this card and was wondering how are the vrm temps. Im worried that I bought a faulty gpu but i doubt evga would keep selling defective gpus
Worth the extra cash over the FTW edition? I've been waiting to see how this card landed to upgrade.
love the "I digress", it has to be in there.
I have a 530W power supply from Thermaltake, do you think it'l support a single 1080 classified? Will I be able to push it to the magical 2.1Ghz with that psu?