Who Made You Sin? God Or Augustine?
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- God is Sovereign! He is the Supreme Ruler! This is full of comfort, hope, and inspiring to the Christian. Does this mean, however, that God controls everything, even people's choices? Is our existence fatalistic? Is God the puppet master and we the marionette attached to the strings?
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WYSNBAC = Why You Should Not Be a Calvinist
Episode 2 of this WYSNBAC series
Please excuse the harsh cuts in the video. This was originally recorded for radio which doesn't always translate to UA-cam.
ESV. Entirely Sproul Version.
The only one with the word “sovereign” inserted !!!!
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Where is the scripture you are referring? I don't read the ESV.
@@EugeneHolley-rc6ry. Acts 4:24
1 Timothy 6:15
Revelation 6:10
Thank you for your prompt reply, I shall look these up in the ESV.@@johndisalvo6283
Why hasn't anyone even commented on this masterpiece! Absolutely brilliant!!!! Calvinists don't like it when Christians do what you did....take their philosophical belief in determinism and use one's mind (that we're to love God with...and the word mind there means to bring critical thought) and drill down their philosophy to its logical conclusions. Christians need to continue doing this. It is a system built off of philosophy and it needs to be treated as a philosophy rather than anything resembling Christianity.
Thank you for your words of encouragement! I do believe there are those that ascribe to Calvinism that are true born again believers. With that said, I agree that it is a system or philosophy that is not biblically based but rather a Greek hangover and really Augustine brought his Manichean beliefs back into.
@@GodsResistancePress Amen! I believe they are saved as "we" are saved through their belief in Jesus by God's grace. I really don't think the majority of those saved through Calvinist brethren even know about all these other external "add-on" beliefs.
Calvinism 💯 % biblical
@@mikegreene9137 You are definitely entitled to your opinion.
@GodsResistancePress well... sure, anyone is. But just so happens that I agree with the Bible, so that is all that I really find important. The bogus claims of gnostic philosophy being anything comparable to reformed theology is laughable. Compare them side by side and they are nowhere near noticeable in likeness. Only people like Wilson and Flowers try to push that propaganda. Well maybe some IFBs also like to peddle in it.
The scriptures are clear. Anyone who preaches another gospel or Jesus falls under a curse. In other words, they're cut off from Christ. We cannot overlook or turn a blind eye to what God does not
Screenshot (16424) Near 5;34, you shared here that you think some Calvinists are saved. This reminds me of a Southern Baptist like Provisionist. I [in]
lean Arminian about salvation and about the Bible for all people instead of a select amount as Calvinism teaches.
The Sovereign LORD controls every minute detail of every sinners sin. The sinner cannot sin but by the opportunity given him/her by the decree of God.
Man is NOT autonomous...even in "their sins.
Do you have scripture to back that up? No, you don't, and you are making God the author of sin.
@@livingforjesus8551 Plenty of texts in the Holy Writ proving unregerate mans freedom to do absolutely NOTHING outside the Dominion of the Sovereighn LORD God.
The question is....why hasn't the LORD opened your eyes to them?
@@livingforjesus8551 Have you ever even read through the entire Bible?
@@ManassehJones
So, show me that God controls my sin. No, the question is, why can't you show me, that God controls my sin.
@livingforjesus8551 I said tbe "LORD controls you IN YOUR sin." You cannot fufill your imaginary lusts in the physical world EXCEPT given the opportunity by the LORD
I believe the reason many people, like myself, struggle to go to non calvinist churches because the preaching is AWFUL in most of them.
That is a very real problem. We still shouldn't go along with what is not biblical because its hard to find a good Bible teaching church. God will help you right where you are, even if you go to a reformed church because you cannot find a good church. Keep in the Bible and filter whatever is being preached through the Scriptures.
The whole incorrect use of “sovereignty” by Calvinists towards people who don’t subscribe to the heresy is nothing more than “gaslighting.” Every use of it to say that they believe God is all powerful and that those who aren’t Calvinist don’t is simply an insult under the guise of glorifying God.
Ironically, they don’t realize that Calvinism is a literal blasphemy against God, and imputes on Him sinfulness and human errors that man, and not God, commit. God is not the author and source of man’s sin, nor is He a truant or dictator. The word “sovereign” is never used in the Bible, and the word itself does not mean “all controlling” but rather being able to do what one wishes without outside interference. It also does not limit the wishes of God to be dictating and predetermining everything and everyone. In fact Scripture tells us it is His will and choice to allow man to freely choose to follow or not.
What scriptures talk about that it’s His will and choice to allow man to freely choose to follow or not? I have a desire to understand this more if you could give me anything to work with.
This was a very though provoking video, it may seem odd, but I don't believe in Calvinism or Arminianism. I believe the scriptures agree with some of what each teach to be biblical, but very little of the doctrines of grace are biblical in my study of the word. WCF is one of the problems I have with Calvinism, as I have with the Catechism of the RCC, I believe both to only be for the confusing of their followers to believe the doctrines of men instead of the word of God.
Are you seriously blaming the ESV for people turning to reformed theology? I have been a reformed theologian for almost 30 years now and have never owned an ESV. I grew up both Methodist and Southern Baptist... my traditions taught me to hate "Calvinism ". I kicked against the ox goads of the full counsel of scripture for years. It took the Spirit convincing me through sound biblical exegesis that the reformed faith was correct. People saying that people are "duped" by calvinism or they don't study the Word of God or they don't look at context or they are only fooliwing some man's philosophy and not Jesus ...those people are very disingenuous or just outright ignorant. The whole of reformed theology is Christ centered and that is why when i truly looked at what they (some of the greatest theologians in history) were saying and compared it with their exegesis of the scriptures it lined up and i fell in love with Christ all the more realizing just how truly amazing His grace was. Salvation is of God 100% and He alone should receive the praise and glory for it. Yes man is responsible... yes God is sovereign. The scriptures harmonize this, but if you don't start from Genesis 1:1 with your theology then you are wrong and your "theology " will undoubtedly end up man centered and not Christ centered. Have a blessed day.
I’m not saying that the ESV alone is responsible for the Calvinistic resurgence, but is part of it. The translation team behind the ESV is reformed. Those biases can easily influence certain key passages. My problem was not really with the meat of the translation as much as the people attached to it, and their marketing. When people buy the ESV and realize who is behind it, they naturally start to check out those people. There is certainly other factors that aid to the resurgence of Calvinism.
I don’t mean to be disingenuous. I believe many that aren’t Calvinists believe what they believe because of careful study and sound exegesis themselves. I suppose each one of us hast to wrestle with the Scriptures and work our salvation out with fear and trembling before God. I do have Calvinist friends and believe they love Christ, and exemplify his presence in their lives. however, I strongly disagree with their doctrine. I have also met Calvinist who do not have the spirit of Christ at all. The same could be said for those that are non-Calvinist.
Somehow lost dead sinners raise themselves back to life and into belief
@@kevincrockett6523You have no idea what you're talking about.
What are the wages of sin?@@johnortiz566
It is lazy to say that Calvinism is gnosticism. That is bogus scholarship attempting to tie Augustine's early influences back into his later teachings. Augustine was not perfect by any means and he was also heavily influenced by the sacral system just as were many of the great later theologians like Calvin and Luther. However, when one does an actual deep study into Augustine's doctrines of predestination and the nature of man/ original sin/ sovereignty of God they will find they are nothing like the gnostic teachings and actually line up very well with Paul and Jesus's teachings from the scriptures. These erroneous and quite frankly bogus and wild allegations against Augustine/ Calvin come from later Roman apologists and more recently from people like Dr. Ken Wilson and his ilk like Dr. Flowers pushing this poppycock because it suits their anti reformed and man centered theology.
I don’t believe that is accurate to say it is lazy to equate Calvinism with gnosticism. If you read what the gnostics believed in Iraneus’ book against heresies, you will find striking similarities between Augustinian Calvinism and gnosticism. For instance, the gnostics taught the material world is inherently sinful. That would include our material bodies. Calvinists teach that our bodies are so depraved that we will sin in thought, word, and deed, every day of our lives until death. The Bible declares we are to be holy while living in this body. The Calvinists teach we are positionally righteous because we cannot actually be righteous. The gnostics taught, because your body was material, you would be doing sinful deeds, but your spirit would be pure because of your special knowledge. Calvinists teach functionally the same thing.
Actually, Gnosticism declares that God elected only a few to be saved before the beginning of time. Calvinism mirrors the Manichean Gnosticism that Augustine himself practiced. It is well known that Augustine plunged back into his gnostic ways during his debate with Iraneus due to being challenged on whether man has free will or not. It is the literal basis for Augustinian theology/Calvinism.
@believein1 when compared they may use slightly similar language in some areas but are night and day different in the doctrines... not even close. And the sourcing for Augustinian/ Calvinist doctrines are directly from the scriptures...100 % fact.
The gnostics did mirror some Christian terminology and beliefs... we know that from scripture. But we also see from scripture how to discern the differences.
The arguments yall are making have been soundly and continuously debunked and refuted yet are still propagated mostly by people influenced by Wilson and Flowers... and have also heard some Roman apologists try the same nonsense.
@@mikegreene9137
"Sorry to say that you have been indoctrinated. The question is why the apostolic fathers believed in free will? Also, why Augustine believed in free will and then changed his reasoning to Gnosticism?
Everyone who reads the Bible without the Calvinistic lenses knows that the Gospel is available to all. If it is not, then it is not 'Good News'.
1 Timothy 2:3-4: 'This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.' He gave himself as a ransom for all people.
2 Timothy 4:10: 'Who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.'
Titus 2:11: 'For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.'
1 John 2:2: 'He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.'
There are too many passages that plainly invite all people to believe.