One thing I forgot to mention... DO NOT LET GO OF THE THROTTLE during the second > 30 time-frame until the engine RPM has dropped considerably and flattened out.
Question. It’s not in the manual of what to listen for when stopping the full throttle. How did you decide to stop it when the throttle levels out rather then when the engine rpms skyrocket to max power?
What i see most is many never read the manual and when theres a problem they panic, i never had a problem with Stihl, but your right on how to reset this! It's a fine saw hope you get plenty of use with it!
Thanks for sharing this information. The instructions in the manual now make sense, although nowhere is it mentioned when calibration should be done. Cheers!
Thank you! It works!! Going by the sound it makes while holding it wide open it idols down much sooner than 35 seconds, but I held it for the entire time and it runs great.
Yes that is the correct procedure for a re set on that model of the m tronic, I believe you only have to do the re set is when you clean the air filter or replace it or clean spark plug. The manual does dot indicate why or when this re set needs to be done.
Right out of the manual. Good review. I have had to go for longer than 30 seconds on the full throttle run. RPMs cycle up and down on their own. Feels so weird. My question is how often do you need to do this. Manual is not very specific. Each time you use it? Once a season? When it’s acting up? How often have you had to?
I've only had to do it once. But I'd say if it starts bogging down on throttle squeeze before ramping up you need to do it. That's what it was doing with me. People say change in temp and elevation as well. I say just do it when it's acting funky.
I've always reset with bar size changes or anytime the chain comes off or every other time.. but for 100secs to reset that's not along process so id do it periodically tbh! Season change does help to reset as well! I've seen a 261c cut 15secs faster just by resetting the mtronic when changing bar size! That's a fact! 💯💪🏼
Thank you. I could not understand the Owner's Manual. You clarified it nicely. One thing you did not mention is the decompression valve. In one spot in the Owner's Manual it says "you must press the (decompression valve) before every starting attempt." However, the Manual never again mentions the decompression valve in all its starting instructions. When should I use the decompression valve?
Never use that thing. Take it out and plug the hole off, you buy the pluk from a saw dealer. They tend to be leaking after a while,and you loose power over time.. First thing i will do,when getting a new saw and it have a decomp valve is plugging it off
Thanks for providing this information!What does the M-Tronics do? And what about any other tuning? You put the Egan Straight Shot on the 362C but added nothing about the tuning you did.
The running for 90secs. only applies to M-tronic saws with software version 2.0 or lower. For M-tronic software versions 2.1 or higher, it’s the 30secs at fast idle with chainbrake on, then 30secs. at full power with chainbrake off. During which the revs will raise from idling, to higher revs, to flattening out to lower revs., then switch it off.
This method is for the 362/462 which have a different generation of the Mtronics in them. All others do the 90-second thing that you mentioned early on.
no. it just seems to be rough. not smooth. it cuts great tho. I'm probably being cautious from reading other people's posts. I've barely used it though.
It depends on the software in the saw. 2.0 and below has one way and 2.1 and above does it another way. It should be on a label on your saw marked what software you have.
I imagine this process should be performed prior to each session of use? Or not, as long as the external conditions are identical i.e. outside temp, elevation and filter cleanliness.
Good explanation. Chainsaws and electronics - what an unnecessary concept. I currently have 3 Huskies and my favorite (455 Rancher) has a primer bulb. I can start that buggar cold with one pull. Automatic chokes and me do not get along (except on old cars.) Looks like a really nice saw though.
I would feel horrible ripping a saw full throttle after 30 seconds, for 35 seconds. I got the 400c and never had do do anything of a sort. Everyday of use clean air filter and clean plug, you wont have any issues!
Это в основном то, как вы это делаете, убедитесь, что включён,тормоз цепи и вы собираетесь идти вперёд и запускать пилу с дроссельной заслонки, не касались дроссельной заслонки вообще ты позволишь пеле стаять без действия в течение третьего - 60 секунд хорошо после чего, я как делаю 35 и 35, вот как я оставлю его там на холостом ходу в течение 35 секунд, затем я разорву цепь выключаю пелу. И я полностью открываю дроссельную заслонку в течение 35 секунд и смотрю, как это. Просто повернул так, что когда вы здвигаете это вниз, вы собираетесь полностью открыть вы не отрежити ногу или что-то ещё, что держите, держите ее хорошо и крепко в ваших руках, так что 35 секунд в течение этих 35 секунд ваша пила впервые вероятно, 15 секунд будут звучать так, как будто это полный газ, но потом он собирается перейти на другую передачу, как это звучит, и просто идти вдвое тяжелее а затем он снова начнет работать на холостом ходу, и после этого 35 секунд, вы просто отпускаете дроссель и выключаете пилу, и вот как бы сбрасиваете ms 362, чтобы увидеть с mtronik на нем почти все остальные в руководстве все ещё написано, как я сказал, пусть он работает на мягком холостом ходу или просто на холостом ходу, не нажимая дроссельной заслонке на 30 60 секунд, а затем нажмите на спусковой крючок не менее 30 секунд и удерживайте его, удерживайте, не отпускайте, а затем после этого да, это было сбросить, и вы можете выключить его, и теперь вы можете снова начать пилить, ВОТ и всё.
You'll need to take it on to a shop. They'll probably end up replacing the M-Tronics on it. Be sure your gas is good by the way. I've had one do that to me and bad gas was the culprit.
It had some weird running characteristics, the main one being a boggy start when pressing the throttle, like the carb was being flooded with too much fuel.
Yer i wish stihl would be more clear about how to start this saw, did the 90 sec stuff but seems thats for older m tronic. Will reset, but wish dealers and stihl be better at this. An give a pro saw two spikes cos one small one bit shit, its a pro saw for pro work so just make it. But yer winge but nice saw but for the money yer
Make a video please. My 2 MS362CM saw in the garage works well ,idle good but today minus 10 Celsius outside ,the engine dies when idling, took the 2 saws the shop for calibration with Stihl programming & I will see the result. Impossible to do like your video. Got 2 362M tronics & 30, 35 ,90 sec idle & no change at full throttle, no gear up nothing. The Stihl shopt did not fix the idle. I just adjust the screw between linkage shaft & the contact with a plier. Impossible to do your reset as per your description ,even the Stihl shop does not do that !
Your not doing something right after I put tune up kit on . Spark plug and air filter fuel filter. I did what he did it started and ran alot better very noticeable. Maybe u need the tune up kit
Buy a saw.with new tech. Open it up. Slap the bar and chain on. Fill it it up. And throw the manual in a drawer somehere. And call the product a peice of crap when you dont get how to use it.
Lots of assumptions made there bud. For one, I bought it used from ebay with no user manual... So I searchrd the internet and it was very confusing, hence this video.
And no. None of them are different.. you reset mtronic in all of them the same way.. why is this so mysterious. Read your manual dudes. You might learn something
I agree I have ms261 manual says to reset by 5 cuts at full throttle on good size log. It is a great saw when it works. Have Two ms-260 and a 028 the ms-261 is the least reliable of the 4 will just stop for no reason then sometimes it will start a sometimes it won’t. Paid 65$ for dealer to put it on computer to tell me nothing wrong with it. It is a first generation m-tronic. Please if anyone has figured out what is the problem with these saws let me know
One thing I forgot to mention... DO NOT LET GO OF THE THROTTLE during the second > 30 time-frame until the engine RPM has dropped considerably and flattened out.
Question. It’s not in the manual of what to listen for when stopping the full throttle. How did you decide to stop it when the throttle levels out rather then when the engine rpms skyrocket to max power?
@@Conquer2Reign I would just time it and ignore the sound. Timing it will get it reset no matter what.
Irmão essa motosserra e boa ?
Ela desregula muito fácil o carburador eletrônico ? Qual foi sua experiência com ela depois desse 2 anos de uso
What i see most is many never read the manual and when theres a problem they panic, i never had a problem with Stihl, but your right on how to reset this! It's a fine saw hope you get plenty of use with it!
Too many guys have too much pride to RTFM.
It saves so many headaches.
Thanks for sharing this information. The instructions in the manual now make sense, although nowhere is it mentioned when calibration should be done. Cheers!
Thank you so much. I never had a problem with mine until a few days ago- didn't want to start after running warm. This totally solved the problem.
Thank you! It works!! Going by the sound it makes while holding it wide open it idols down much sooner than 35 seconds, but I held it for the entire time and it runs great.
Dude thank-you sooo much 🙏 I appreciate it been looking for ever for a proper answer
thankyou it works ,just saved me ££££££££££
So glad I found this vid, gonna try that out on the weekend hopefully it gets mine back to good as new
It fixed mine!
@@ChainsawFarmer1 I'll let you know if it works for me
@@dan_tree_man Did it work?
@@kalebhill3317 it didn't fix the saw as it had a scorched piston head, but It did reset the tuning so that bit worked haha
Thanks for the clarity.
Yes that is the correct procedure for a re set on that model of the m tronic, I believe you only have to do the re set is when you clean the air filter or replace it or clean spark plug. The manual does dot indicate why or when this re set needs to be done.
Thang you for the info you made it very clear.
Right out of the manual. Good review. I have had to go for longer than 30 seconds on the full throttle run. RPMs cycle up and down on their own. Feels so weird. My question is how often do you need to do this. Manual is not very specific. Each time you use it? Once a season? When it’s acting up? How often have you had to?
I've only had to do it once. But I'd say if it starts bogging down on throttle squeeze before ramping up you need to do it. That's what it was doing with me. People say change in temp and elevation as well. I say just do it when it's acting funky.
I've always reset with bar size changes or anytime the chain comes off or every other time.. but for 100secs to reset that's not along process so id do it periodically tbh! Season change does help to reset as well! I've seen a 261c cut 15secs faster just by resetting the mtronic when changing bar size! That's a fact! 💯💪🏼
Thanks good Video, i am going to try it on my 362c
Thank you. I could not understand the Owner's Manual. You clarified it nicely. One thing you did not mention is the decompression valve. In one spot in the Owner's Manual it says "you must press the (decompression valve) before every starting attempt." However, the Manual never again mentions the decompression valve in all its starting instructions. When should I use the decompression valve?
Never use that thing. Take it out and plug the hole off, you buy the pluk from a saw dealer. They tend to be leaking after a while,and you loose power over time.. First thing i will do,when getting a new saw and it have a decomp valve is plugging it off
Thanks for providing this information!What does the M-Tronics do? And what about any other tuning? You put the Egan Straight Shot on the 362C but added nothing about the tuning you did.
I just did a normal retune with the same process in this video after the egan and the saw adapted to it.
It’s got electronics that adjust the carb.
This is the process for setting those electronic
That is the returne . You actually do get something when u pay the extra money for a nice saw I did this after a tune up kit runs like it did new
Thanks bud, you refamiliarize me with this stupid bad ass chainsaw that I just bought for 960 bucks new LOL😎🛠⚒🌎🛡👀
The running for 90secs. only applies to M-tronic saws with software version 2.0 or lower.
For M-tronic software versions 2.1 or higher, it’s the 30secs at fast idle with chainbrake on, then 30secs. at full power with chainbrake off. During which the revs will raise from idling, to higher revs, to flattening out to lower revs., then switch it off.
This is the procedure for resetting the latest M-Tronic generation 3.0, It won't work on the older MS362, MS462, MS661 etc saws.
I know for sure I will never buy those! Thanks for the info.
This method is for the 362/462 which have a different generation of the Mtronics in them. All others do the 90-second thing that you mentioned early on.
thankyou for posting. I have done this 3×
it seems to run better? but it still idle roughly. it's a new saw. runs great except idle ok?
What does it do when it idles? Does it die?
no. it just seems to be rough. not smooth. it cuts great tho. I'm probably being cautious from reading other people's posts. I've barely used it though.
@@jimmyfaherty8588 Gotcha. It's actually supposed to run pretty rough when at idle and not smooth like full throttle. I'm betting it's fine.
Thank you so much bro 🤙
It depends on the software in the saw. 2.0 and below has one way and 2.1 and above does it another way. It should be on a label on your saw marked what software you have.
"should" be on the label on the brake
Thanks!
awesome thanks
well, it is in the manual actually
I imagine this process should be performed prior to each session of use? Or not, as long as the external conditions are identical i.e. outside temp, elevation and filter cleanliness.
I would say the latter, when the conditions have changed.
My owner's manual says recalibrate when temperatures drop below 14 F. I'm assuming the dealer does the initial ?
@@jeffreyrudolph5061 Should come already reset. But if not, never hurts to do it again.
Good explanation. Chainsaws and electronics - what an unnecessary concept. I currently have 3 Huskies and my favorite (455 Rancher) has a primer bulb. I can start that buggar cold with one pull. Automatic chokes and me do not get along (except on old cars.) Looks like a really nice saw though.
Will this help if it keeps flooding itself out
Yer thanks i did 90 secs then touch trigger seems to run well. But will put bark box on and do it that way. Thanks great vid'
Thank you!!!!!
I would feel horrible ripping a saw full throttle after 30 seconds, for 35 seconds. I got the 400c and never had do do anything of a sort. Everyday of use clean air filter and clean plug, you wont have any issues!
Yeah I didn't enjoy that when it doubled idol, I bought saw that was used twice, it runs much stronger now.
Do you live In cold climate that's where it may factor in for sure
I'm gonna try this. Mine seems underpowered
Top .
How about ms 261c stihl resetting have you any idea on that
I don't. Sorry.
Hopefully you’ve found it by now, but it is completely different.
Одна вещь, которую я забыл упомянуть ... не отпускайте дроссель в течение секунды> 30, пока обороты двигателя не упадут значительно и не выровняются.
Это в основном то, как вы это делаете, убедитесь, что включён,тормоз цепи и вы собираетесь идти вперёд и запускать пилу с дроссельной заслонки, не касались дроссельной заслонки вообще ты позволишь пеле стаять без действия в течение третьего - 60 секунд хорошо после чего, я как делаю 35 и 35, вот как я оставлю его там на холостом ходу в течение 35 секунд, затем я разорву цепь выключаю пелу.
И я полностью открываю дроссельную заслонку в течение 35 секунд и смотрю, как это. Просто повернул так, что когда вы здвигаете это вниз, вы собираетесь полностью открыть вы не отрежити ногу или что-то ещё, что держите, держите ее хорошо и крепко в ваших руках, так что 35 секунд в течение этих 35 секунд ваша пила впервые
вероятно, 15 секунд будут звучать так, как будто это полный газ, но потом
он собирается перейти на другую передачу, как это звучит, и просто идти вдвое тяжелее а затем он снова начнет работать на холостом ходу, и после этого 35 секунд, вы просто отпускаете дроссель и выключаете пилу, и вот как бы сбрасиваете ms 362, чтобы увидеть с mtronik на нем почти все остальные в руководстве все ещё написано, как я сказал, пусть он работает на мягком холостом ходу или просто на холостом ходу, не нажимая
дроссельной заслонке на 30 60 секунд, а затем нажмите на спусковой крючок не менее 30 секунд и удерживайте его, удерживайте, не отпускайте, а затем после этого да, это было сбросить, и вы можете выключить его, и теперь вы можете снова начать пилить, ВОТ и всё.
That might work if you can get it started.
Pretty sure my Husqvarna doesn't have a computer and I'm good with that.
Mine can’t last the 35 seconds it bogs down. How do you get to the carb screws??
emmett M their are no carb screws... M tronic is electronically compensated.
You'll need to take it on to a shop. They'll probably end up replacing the M-Tronics on it. Be sure your gas is good by the way. I've had one do that to me and bad gas was the culprit.
@@ChainsawFarmer1 How much is the M-Tronics ??
The problem is you read about the mtronic 2.0 . Your saw has the 3.0 mtronic .
Buddy, its not about what saw you have.. what u explain is how u do it on mtronic 3.0 of newer... Older mtronic models have other ways..
What year is that saw
2019
Here's and idea: Don't buy an M-tronic saw. Buy a saw with a carburetor -- one you can adjust.
After holding the throttle down full for about 35 seconds, my saw just stops.
Then it wont turn start again untill i let it cool.
Great video BTW
That sounds like it may be weak or failing coil.?
Whay need it reset ?
It had some weird running characteristics, the main one being a boggy start when pressing the throttle, like the carb was being flooded with too much fuel.
Because it makes it run perfect every time you start it . Temps chain air filter gets dirty lots of factors.
Let it run 90seconds that's a minute and a half turn-off next time you start it will reset itself.
Only on the older Saws I believe mine I had to run wide open shut off made a big difference
Won't run on choke
Mine I believe choke turns off itself I've never turned mime off I just start it .
The dealer told me? 1min full trottele.
Yer i wish stihl would be more clear about how to start this saw, did the 90 sec stuff but seems thats for older m tronic. Will reset, but wish dealers and stihl be better at this. An give a pro saw two spikes cos one small one bit shit, its a pro saw for pro work so just make it. But yer winge but nice saw but for the money yer
Had one, hated it. End of story.
Dangerous
Make a video please. My 2 MS362CM saw in the garage works well ,idle good but today minus 10 Celsius outside ,the engine dies when idling, took the 2 saws the shop for calibration with Stihl programming & I will see the result. Impossible to do like your video. Got 2 362M tronics & 30, 35 ,90 sec idle & no change at full throttle, no gear up nothing. The Stihl shopt did not fix the idle. I just adjust the screw between linkage shaft & the contact with a plier. Impossible to do your reset as per your description ,even the Stihl shop does not do that !
Your not doing something right after I put tune up kit on . Spark plug and air filter fuel filter. I did what he did it started and ran alot better very noticeable. Maybe u need the tune up kit
Buy a saw.with new tech. Open it up. Slap the bar and chain on. Fill it it up. And throw the manual in a drawer somehere. And call the product a peice of crap when you dont get how to use it.
Lots of assumptions made there bud. For one, I bought it used from ebay with no user manual... So I searchrd the internet and it was very confusing, hence this video.
And no. None of them are different.. you reset mtronic in all of them the same way.. why is this so mysterious. Read your manual dudes. You might learn something
Yes, they are different. Version 2.0 is different from version 3.0.
I agree I have ms261 manual says to reset by 5 cuts at full throttle on good size log. It is a great saw when it works. Have Two ms-260 and a 028 the ms-261 is the least reliable of the 4 will just stop for no reason then sometimes it will start a sometimes it won’t. Paid 65$ for dealer to put it on computer to tell me nothing wrong with it. It is a first generation m-tronic. Please if anyone has figured out what is the problem with these saws let me know